Bull pushing for alone!

[LetsGetItStarted]

My wife and I have been active for awhile now. We are really into mfm mfmf and even GB! We have a young 28 yo bull we have seen two times now. Well… he made some comments to my wife that she “deserves” to be fucked hard by two cocks… implying that Im not slamming her as hard as he is. Then he started saying how he would like to have her all to himself.

So… I made initial contact and made the intro and he clearly knows I’m not a Cuck or into humiliation. He and I would have a great time messaging and marking plans for her. She is very submissive and likes the physical and mental of serving alpha men.

I personally feel disrespected because of the angle he is bringing… I mean.. we say no drama but here it is.

Wife and I have great communication and we have chatted how he is young, how I feel disrespected , that we had some hard limits about going alone. We try to understand from his point of view also… she is a super hot milf, why not make a play for her, wanting to make “love” to her, he always acts like he is the best she ever had, him wanting to be the complete center of her attention….

As a very submissive wife she is admittedly easily talked into things, easy seed planting, all of this… she knows it. It’s one of the reasons why we don’t want her to solo. She basically doesn’t say no and with strangers could easily get herself in a dangerous situation.

We like him… I’m disappointed he did not check some of these things with me before letting loose on her. I know that part of what I love about doing this is others desire to have my wife… but it doesn’t do anything for me if I am not apart of it. Call it insecurity or what ever… just doesn’t feel right knowing that my wife is amazing and all the work we put into our sexuality just to hand it over… maybe that’s the alpha in me. I don’t know.

My question is… do I chat him up and make a correction on what our expectations are and boundaries, should she do this, or just cancel him? There are some scenarios that would be ok… like I don’t mind sitting back and watching them fuck… and honestly if we are all together and he wants to take her in the back room. We just don’t want him having the privilege of aftercare… she typically will come sit on my lap or make out with me after being with another… it’s our jam.

Any suggestions here? Also, it seems like every single guy always floats the question of getting alone with her… I don’t get it? Why? Is it taking another man’s wife? Thinking you’re the best they had? Maybe getting them to say stuff or do something they may not be comfortable with around me (not the case cause my wife will do just about anything, so maybe it’s something they want to do they are afraid around me)? Shit I just don’t know.

[Sexilexi]

1) Do you both like him?

If yes - then simply talk to him and remind him of your “arrangements”. You don’t owe it to him or anyone to explain in depth your reasonings… but a quick reminder won’t hurt anyone.

And take it from there.

His true colors will shine. Imo.

-Lexi

[Sexilexi]

Also, as far as the request to have her alone… it’s a very typical desire for a man to want to sleep with a woman alone, however, I wouldn’t rearrange my nor my wife’s desires/kinks to meet some random dude’s request.

There are plenty of men you can fuck your wife according to your rules. Imo.

Sounds “harsh” but boundaries should be kept no matter how good of a fuck someone is. Give respect, receive respect. Everyone involved should be safe and having fun!

-Lexi

[Sexilexi]

Imo - he made those comments to your wife to maybe push the boundaries some. Maybe he sees her submissive tendencies and wanted to see how far he could take it.

I don’t know that he’ll ever let up, he may be one of those who will constantly push the envelope- so if you’re willing to indulge that then, keep him around.

But I do agree with my first comment, to just communicate with him and see what happens.

That’s all you can do for now!

Good luck!!

Hopefully you update us!!! Haha

-Lexi

[LetsGetItStarted]

Imo - he made those comments to your wife to maybe push the boundaries some. Maybe he sees her submissive tendencies and wanted to see how far he could take it.

I don’t know that he’ll ever let up, he may be one of those who will constantly push the envelope- so if you’re willing to indulge that then, keep him around.

But I do agree with my first comment, to just communicate with him and see what happens.

That’s all you can do for now!

Good luck!!

Hopefully you update us!!! Haha

-Lexi

All are very valid… so I guess without more communication won’t know for sure… or as above even with more communication may be a pusher. We both for sure liked him. Part of the excitement here is also others desire for my wife…. But I can not help but lean on those who have come before me and failed when I think that Guys fall in love with the pussy and they already know she's a freak and enjoys the lifestyle. I hit the jackpot and they're trying to steal the prize.
Now can they steal her… I’m assured not but to have someone making that play is not comfortable for me.
This may be our first big test in the LS… can we agree if he is no longer a fit. If he hadn’t made the extra disparaging comments regarding she deserved two really hard dicks we would probably be fine because you are right, it’s normal to want her alone.

[Sexilexi]

At the end of the day the MOST important aspect is that your relationship/marriage is protected. And the second important aspect is that you both are having fun!

I’m sure your wife understands that those comments of his made you feel uneasy and annoyed, so if that’s the case, then I’d say just move on if your friend isn’t willing to play along by your rules.

She respects you and your feelings as you respect her and her feelings, if one of y’all aren’t having fun, then you talk about it and move on to where EVERYONE will have fun.

There are so many men and women to fuck, he can get over it. Lol

-Lexi

[Sexilexi]

The lifestyle is a roller coaster lol. Stay buckled in and enjoy the ride with all the twists and turns and flips and spins that this life offers.

It’s good that you have a place to be able to ask for advice, we love ohw. It’s home.

-Lexi

[blackmann33]

What Sexilexi said and if he and if he keeps pushing back - fuck him. Never sacrifice your primary relationship for some guy. The experience is supposed to be fun, so if he is creating drama cut him loose. There are plenty of other guys out there.

[Tryagain]

You did not say how well he has fucked her. If she is really into him - more than most others - you could offer to have them do it alone in the bedroom while you are home. Perhaps that might be enough to satisfy him one time while keeping a really good fuck for your wife.

[Seb Boney]

I think the best is to cancel him now, rather then giving him more opportunities to plant more seeds in your wife's mind.

He is making a play to get your wife from you, so he is not bull material.

[afagehi7]

Something doesn't smell right. He knows your boundaries. If you let them go alone then in your house and you're there but not in the bedroom. Don't trust him with your most important and valuable thing in your life... Next thing his friend is showing up unannounced...

[LetsGetItStarted]

we had some drama on Wednesday because of a miscommunication about him.. he messaged both of us for the first time since this blew things up saying he had to delete some app for space on his phone and needed us to send him the porn we made together. I ignored him and asked my wife to not reply to him while we are figuring things out. Her and I chat and she says she knows we need to tell him that alone is never going to happen. So later she says she messaged him back that she can’t send vids right now because it’s difficult to do, we use encryption on our phones. I blew up a bit because I wanted him to stay in the dog house. So i just wasn’t feeling too happy about that since she pretty much does what I ask… and I told her “fuck… he is in your head because you couldn’t help but send some response even though I said not now”.

Yes, he is a tall flexi twink with a long dick so you get the picture about the fucking.

So she tells me that he isn’t in her head and she just wants us to tell him that he isn’t ever going to have an opportunity to be alone… that she likes two guys (really that is her kink to have 2 not so much a solo extra).

So as far as boundary talk with him we only really had sex boundaries not relationship boundaries… so my wife was saying he could honestly think we were rocky and she is looking for that kinda thing or that he is just immature or just a kinky pusher that needs to be put back in check. Basically we don’t know what he is thinking without communicating. And well, he has always been cool and courteous in person (well as much as you can when skill fucking another dudes wife in front of him). When he and I message it’s like ping pong on what we want to get into with her.. when she and him message it’s like 20 messages total between meetings (she not big on messaging or BS and is all about action).

She has not replied to his message since we got into it Wednesday night. I’m confident that her and I are on the same page that alone is a major boundary. I just feel somewhere since last time he lost some respect for me or gained some confidence he did not have before because he pushed the alone. But now that he is just “how are you doing” and I have not replied and he doesn’t have the videos he wants he is probably thinking a bit differently.

Wife and I are getting together with a very submissive unicorn this weekend and I just don’t want to deal with him right now so I just think he should sit.

I had her signed up on here but will have to help her get logged in. I’m sure she would love to to share in her own words.

Thanks for all the feedback and I will reply with our next steps.

[Sexilexi]

Im Thankful you updated us.

Honestly I would just “ghost” him. I hate ghosting men, but sometimes some men aren’t worth the explanation. He’ll understand and he’ll move on.

Enjoy the unicorn!!!

I’m also glad you’re on the same page again.

-Lexi

[PlzFuckMyHotwife]

My hot cutie with a booty and I have zero tolerance for any males breaking our (extremely few) rules. Cocks are a dozen a dime. Just put another quarter in the machine and get another cock.

I've escorted guys out in the past for trying to renegotiate the rules in the moment. It didn't matter that the guy was already naked, hard, and ready to penetrate... in the next moment he was dressed and leaving, never to return.

[Mr Stag]

We had just the opposite problem: shy other men and my being a bull-like man.

I just love watching my woman suck another man's cock, especially while I am fucking her and her mouth and his cock are just inches away from my eyes. Nothing is as mesmerizing. The slow. Steady back and forth of her mouth on his cock puts me in a near trance. Watching him climb on top of her and fuck her, wildly or slowly, is almost a great a turn on. But not seeing is also great. One of the best times ever was when I sat in a chair facing away from them, with only her description of what he was doing to her body to keep my imagination going.

(One problem with sex is that much of what is going on cannot be seen. For example, if he is pushing a finger up her vagina while they are in tight embrace, partially covered in blankets, you will never see it; but if she tells you about it as it is happening…)

And I love not being there, letting them go at it alone, with my only hearing all the details later at night while fucking her or eating her. I discovered this by accident. My wife (she was just my girlfriend at the time) and I had set up a MMF threesome with an old friend of mine at his place; he lived about 40 miles from us. I left her off at his place and I instructed both of them to begin without me, as I had to run a business errand in town first. I hurried about, driving like a fool, as I knew that they both were far too shy to begin without me. Then it hit me; why not force them to start without me by taking an extra long time. I pulled into a Barnes and Noble bookstore and spent the next two hours reading, with my mind constantly returning to the thought of what they might be doing.

When I finally showed up, he answered the door naked. His apartment smelled strongly of sex (the unique sex smell created by another man's sweat and cum mixing with your woman's sweat and vaginal fluids is intoxicating) and I found her sitting naked on the sofa, looking completely exhausted and satisfied. We had a quick threesome and left. Later that night she told me all the juicy details: how he had made no moves on her whatsoever and how she had went to bathroom and took off all her clothes before returning to him and how and where they had sucked and fucked in his place.

(Interestingly enough, a neighbor of his had knocked on his door, while I was still absent and after they had begun without me. My friend opened the door wide, expecting to see me; instead his friend saw her naked sitting on his sofa. This portion of her story excited me more than can be imagined. Believe me, I wished that he had invited this other fellow in his apartment.)

[MartasBoy]

.....My question is… do I chat him up and make a correction on what our expectations are and boundaries, should she do this, or just cancel him? There are some scenarios that would be ok… like I don’t mind sitting back and watching them fuck… and honestly if we are all together and he wants to take her in the back room. We just don’t want him having the privilege of aftercare… she typically will come sit on my lap or make out with me after being with another… it’s our jam.

I can see why you felt disrespected, and your boundaries crossed. It is one thing if it is made clear to the bull, that the husband enjoys being cucked, then that would sort of serve as an invitation for him to direct and dictate some things. But otherwise, he should respect you and your marriage. I wouldn't think it inappropriate for him to ask, "What do you think your husband would think about us having some alone time? Could we ask him?" But my wife is not so inclined to be submissive, and she knows my limits, and I trust her not to let things get out of control. With your wife being submissive, I think you're instincts to step in and assert your boundaries is right on.

Any suggestions here? Also, it seems like every single guy always floats the question of getting alone with her… I don’t get it? Why?

The guys who want to get alone with her may feel self conscious about having sex in front of others. They may want to feel free to enjoy, without an observer. Also, those of us who get turned on by sharing our woman, are a rare breed unto ourselves. "I've heard lots of guys question what hotwifing is all about. They may enjoy being the recipient of hotwife sex, but away from us, they might be saying, "I've been F-ing a married woman, and her husband knows about it and approves. He likes to watch. What kind of man gets off on pimping his wife to others? I could never share my woman. When I have a woman, she has to be all mine. These guys must not care about their woman." The guys who think like this, probably think it doesn't matter, alone or together, some guys don't understand any of this.

[Mr Stag]

Sexilexi asked me to continue my story of my shy friend, Michael, so here it is:

Michael lived about 35 miles from us in a two-bedroom apartment, using the spare room for a home gym. Thus, I was surprised when he took in a roommate, a friend of his in his mid 30s who had just split up with his wife. Mike gave his roommate fair warning when we were coming over for a threesome and the roommate would catch a movie. Everything went well until one night. He either came home early or we went overtime, but he caught all three of us in the act on the living room sofa. None of us heard the door open and she was being double penetrated, with Mike sitting on the sofa, her straddling him and me fucking her ass from behind.

(If you have never done DP, you should as the feeling is amazing due to the skin being so very thin between vagina and rectum. Mike's cock was too thick to ever fit in her ass, so I always got that hole. Even I didn't fuck her, as she was far too tight; instead, I just forced my cock inside and didn't move, letting Mike do al the work. Effectively, he was fucking both her and me, as I feel every movement he made.)

The stereo blared Led Zeppelin, Houses of the Holy, I believe, so no one heard the door open. I noticed the stranger first, pulling my condom-covered cock out of my wife's anus abruptly, and ready to punch him out, as I didn't recognize him, having only met him once before. Fortunately, Michael sputtered out his name, and I dropped my fist just before I was about to throw a punch. (It would have been a hell of scene, me punching him it out, while naked, with a hard cock.)

We were horrified to be caught in so compromising a position; Michael more so than anyone. Mike was intrinsically shy—in spite of having a big cock and being quite buffed. (I say was, as he died in Afghanistan about 15 years ago.) We retreated to Mike's bedroom and he was worried that we might have psychologically scarred his friend, as his wife had cheated on him, thus explaining their divorce. My wife put on some clothes and went to apologize to the roommate. I was pissing off Mike, as I found the situation comical in the extreme. While she was gone, I told Mike that he should invite his friend into our little orgy.

Mike thought it was a very bad idea; but after I explained how it might just the thing that he needed to help him forget his ex wife and build his self-confidence, Michael changed his mind entirely. When my wife returned, he begged her to consider inviting his roommate in between her legs, as if he were asking her to make some huge sacrifice, such as donate a kidney. Didn’t he get that she loved being fucked by other men? Mid one of his pleading sentences, she just smiled and left. Michael continued to worry, wondering if he had just made a big mistake. About ten minutes later, she returned naked, holding the roommate’s hand. Mike and I went out of way to give the roommate staring role and most of her attentions. The next week, we held a repeat performance with Michael and his roommate. It might have gone on much longer, but he moved into his own place soon after.

[leo-cpl]

LetsGetItStarted you appear to be very sorted in your reasoning and thought process and like you said you and your wife openly talk and discuss its def helps. its very natural to step in if you think shes being too submissive or coerced or mislead into doing things she's not comfy with, there is nothing wrong with that.

I think you should talk it out with the guy and get him to acknowledge his boundaries....esp if there are very clear boundaries that have been defined or loosely defined you can always reinforce your comfort level. After which if the bull falls in line its cool else move on. NO MATTER how much fun she has or how good he is....there's always someone out there who is better and will play by your rules.

About him wanting to be alone with her.....if she really wants to......you can try being in an apt with two bedrooms......them in one and you in the other with clear boundaries and off limit stuff discussed (you need to discuss with your wife too) with the flexibility of you checking but not being around or joining.....that way you are around and can step in if needed and at the same time she can try n be alone n explore.

In my exp if the guy wants to be alone......its coz they have a bit of an emotional connect as well (i know my wife did with the guy who wanted to be alone with her but she shot down his idea). The way I see it....the two of you are in this together to explore what's fun for the both of you and as a cpl you can be flexible about some trivial aspects but absolutely not compromise over the things important to the both of you.

All said and done....wife and are open to exploring her being alone with a guy (known him for 2 years and played 4-5 times) shes super comfy with him ......we plan to set up the meet in a furnished 2 bedroom airbnb so I know shes having fun and shes safe.

Good luck

[LetsGetItStarted]

Weekend with the submissive unicorn was awesome. I lasted 8 hours and was quite proud of my delivery. My hot wife also had a great time… I was so different versus having a third guy. Even two submissive women will compete for cock… almost every time the sun unicorn had me raging my HotWife would demand sex and basically steel me from the u I corn. Then the unicorn would clean me up and get some and it would all start all over again.

So it’s been sometime since the Pushy Bull last correspondence. My wife had told him that his talk about being alone “made her feel weird” and he apologized that he didn’t mean to do that. Then it was all quiet for maybe 2-3 weeks.
Last night we were talking and I was telling my wife that I feel like we could maybe do some alone type stuff if we were role playing. Our thoughts are kinda to all meet in the room and have round 1… then I when we are resting for round 2 let them know I’m going to go pick up some drinks in the bar. So I take my time sitting there chatted the bartender and thinking about her back in the room probably “cheating” on me with him (all ethically of course). Meanwhile my wife wants to record it all so a camera will be rolling for us to see later… this really turns her on. When I return to the room I obviously catch them. For round 3, My wife then wants me to take that alpha energy and just explode with some hate fucking (yea we are kinky that way). It sounds like a adrenaline rush to both of us because we both get to play, we are controlling the experience, and a role play like that combines a lot of our kink (hot wifing, BDSM, CNC, humiliation). We both are hoping that the Bull will join in slut training and brat taming her.
This new turn stems from the unicorn experience because I got rougher with her and my wife wants to explore and expand on that in our own relationship

[Sexilexi]

I always enjoy when couples explore new experiences and are so open to discussing what they are into. Good for you both to feel open enough to explore.

It’s so wild that how one experience, whether it’s “good“ or “bad” can lead us to new fun experiences.

Yay! Happy for y’all! Looking forward to hearing as this all plays out!

-Lexi

[Natatude]

You should both sit down with him and be like look, we have rules and arrangements and we don’t want no alone time. Grizzly and I have rules. So I would be the one to tell them the rules and if he doesn’t want me doing something, I don’t.

[4herpleasure89]

From my perspective he seems to have gotten into YOUR head and touched a nerve. A bull can be expected to behave like this. This seems like a very simple solution to a common problem. Just say no to alone play and continue to play with him or not.

[4herpleasure89]

From my perspective he seems to have gotten into YOUR head and touched a nerve. A bull can be expected to behave like this. This seems like a very simple solution to a common problem. Just say no to alone play and continue to play with him or not. He asking isn’t a crime. And as long as you two are on the same page, what’s the problem?

[Her number1]

From my perspective he seems to have gotten into YOUR head and touched a nerve. A bull can be expected to behave like this. This seems like a very simple solution to a common problem. Just say no to alone play and continue to play with him or not. He asking isn’t a crime. And as long as you two are on the same page, what’s the problem?

[LetsGetItStarted]

Well… that Bull still talks to us but I don’t think we are going to get back together.
-Wife just told him that it made her feel weird when he said he would love to be alone with her.
-Then it went quiet for a month and he got back to me and I mentioned we had a threesome with another women.

So… I need to keep my mouth shut and not talk about our experiences with these bulls because I think it sucks off some of their energy.