Her body says yes, her mind says nope

[Bangs]

Hello fellow pervs. I am a wannabe, and will most likely remain a wanabe. Our story is long, I'd say 6 years since I first told her about my "dream". If you read others successful strategies, some begin with a MLK approach, "I had a dream"

She likes the idea in fantasy, we have lots of fun talking "trash" during sex, we have "porn" day once a week or so, she has met with friends, but if I weren't pushing and begging, she would quite happy with my lil dick and nothing more.

We have tried a lot I suppose, clubs out of town (she has touched a boobie) her first gentlemens club, we have visited Hedo (she had two BBC in her hands) she has taken a horse ride on the beach at sunset in Jamaica, only to be felt up and played with while on the pony, we have tried swingers to no avail, and we have entertained single male gents (BBC being our favorite taboo)

Any and all of these shenanigans make her extremely wet. In meeting with our favorites, she has progressed from oral, to a new trick where she rubs his cock against her clit and gets off. Extremely hawt to watch. Again, almost everytime we find a comfortable player, her body is really into it. Her mind not at all.

We talked extensively yesterday. Its her social upbringing that keeps her conservative. She really said it best, "I don't want / need any complications in my life" and she is right. But I am a risk / reward kinda guy and sometimes I do not understand.

She has been very patient with me over the years, my harassment and pushing (constant) but at the end of the day, she doesn't want anything more than me. I should be very proud. However I am wired to always want more, build bigger, gain more etc... and this "complacency" goes against my "trained" thinking.

In comparison to other "wannabes" I should count my blessings and be happy with what her mind has allowed her to enjoy. I came up with an idea that should help her mind and her body desire different attention, that would to completely cut her off, lock up my lil cage and throw away the key... after a few weeks her body and mind would be craving some touch from "just about anybody". Alas, I am not strong enough to carry that out.

Thank you fore reading. I am open to the view of other ladies on this topic. In my heart I know the right thing to do, keep it as pillow talk, and leave it at that, maybe an occasional visit with one of her favorites here or there, but I really should find a new hobby.

[snoogaloo82]

Hello fellow pervs. I am a wannabe, and will most likely remain a wanabe. Our story is long, I'd say 6 years since I first told her about my "dream". If you read others successful strategies, some begin with a MLK approach, "I had a dream"

She likes the idea in fantasy, we have lots of fun talking "trash" during sex, we have "porn" day once a week or so, she has met with friends, but if I weren't pushing and begging, she would quite happy with my lil dick and nothing more.

We have tried a lot I suppose, clubs out of town (she has touched a boobie) her first gentlemens club, we have visited Hedo (she had two BBC in her hands) she has taken a horse ride on the beach at sunset in Jamaica, only to be felt up and played with while on the pony, we have tried swingers to no avail, and we have entertained single male gents (BBC being our favorite taboo)

Any and all of these shenanigans make her extremely wet. In meeting with our favorites, she has progressed from oral, to a new trick where she rubs his cock against her clit and gets off. Extremely hawt to watch. Again, almost everytime we find a comfortable player, her body is really into it. Her mind not at all.

We talked extensively yesterday. Its her social upbringing that keeps her conservative. She really said it best, "I don't want / need any complications in my life" and she is right. But I am a risk / reward kinda guy and sometimes I do not understand.

She has been very patient with me over the years, my harassment and pushing (constant) but at the end of the day, she doesn't want anything more than me. I should be very proud. However I am wired to always want more, build bigger, gain more etc... and this "complacency" goes against my "trained" thinking.

In comparison to other "wannabes" I should count my blessings and be happy with what her mind has allowed her to enjoy. I came up with an idea that should help her mind and her body desire different attention, that would to completely cut her off, lock up my lil cage and throw away the key... after a few weeks her body and mind would be craving some touch from "just about anybody". Alas, I am not strong enough to carry that out.

Thank you fore reading. I am open to the view of other ladies on this topic. In my heart I know the right thing to do, keep it as pillow talk, and leave it at that, maybe an occasional visit with one of her favorites here or there, but I really should find a new hobby.

For some women it's confidence. For me it was complimenting her naturally. Both her beauty as well as her personality. I'd "reward" things when she did things I liked or would like her to do. Just be a kind and compassionate person with her, and let her naturally come to things. Then again I think you should probably let some women answer the question, too. I think you could also put this put up this post in The Hotwives forum as there are more women there to answer your questions.

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I think most women respond to the idea physically.
But does men they want to or can do it.
Goes against all social norms.
Every woman a have talked dirty about when we are fucking responded

[BBCfan]

Hello fellow pervs. I am a wannabe, and will most likely remain a wanabe. Our story is long, I'd say 6 years since I first told her about my "dream". If you read others successful strategies, some begin with a MLK approach, "I had a dream"

She likes the idea in fantasy, we have lots of fun talking "trash" during sex, we have "porn" day once a week or so, she has met with friends, but if I weren't pushing and begging, she would quite happy with my lil dick and nothing more.

We have tried a lot I suppose, clubs out of town (she has touched a boobie) her first gentlemens club, we have visited Hedo (she had two BBC in her hands) she has taken a horse ride on the beach at sunset in Jamaica, only to be felt up and played with while on the pony, we have tried swingers to no avail, and we have entertained single male gents (BBC being our favorite taboo)

Any and all of these shenanigans make her extremely wet. In meeting with our favorites, she has progressed from oral, to a new trick where she rubs his cock against her clit and gets off. Extremely hawt to watch. Again, almost everytime we find a comfortable player, her body is really into it. Her mind not at all.

We talked extensively yesterday. Its her social upbringing that keeps her conservative. She really said it best, "I don't want / need any complications in my life" and she is right. But I am a risk / reward kinda guy and sometimes I do not understand.

She has been very patient with me over the years, my harassment and pushing (constant) but at the end of the day, she doesn't want anything more than me. I should be very proud. However I am wired to always want more, build bigger, gain more etc... and this "complacency" goes against my "trained" thinking.

In comparison to other "wannabes" I should count my blessings and be happy with what her mind has allowed her to enjoy. I came up with an idea that should help her mind and her body desire different attention, that would to completely cut her off, lock up my lil cage and throw away the key... after a few weeks her body and mind would be craving some touch from "just about anybody". Alas, I am not strong enough to carry that out.

Thank you fore reading. I am open to the view of other ladies on this topic. In my heart I know the right thing to do, keep it as pillow talk, and leave it at that, maybe an occasional visit with one of her favorites here or there, but I really should find a new hobby.

Doesn't really sound like you're a wannabe. I mean she's done everything but penetration it sounds like.
You should be happy with the fun you have together.
If you take off the pressure for more it may just happen.

2 BBC in her hands at same time! Wow...that's hot.

[Bangs]

BBCfan you have a point. If I didn't acknowledge previously, her friends that she has met a few times are indeed BBC, we love the taboo

[BBCfan]

BBCfan you have a point. If I didn't acknowledge previously, her friends that she has met a few times are indeed BBC, we love the taboo

So when she's done the oral and clit rub, it was with BBC "friends"?
Are you there too?

You mention a few times how you push her a lot to do more.
Instead of the cage idea, what about just reverse psychology.
Perhaps just say, " I happy with how things are, a really am fine with nothing more, probably best you don't go all the way".

Something to that sort might free her mind from the pressure and help her to fantasize about it on her terms?
Just a thought.

[Bangs]

BBCFAN wrote>>>>>>>>Instead of the cage idea, what about just reverse psychology.

Ha! Have attempted that many times, she is on to me and laughs at me. You asked if I am present with her "dates" thus far... yes I am ... taking pix, video, and participating.

Yes we enjoy entertaining BBC friends....

The clit rub is a new trick she enjoys immensely, yes with BBC friends

[2inUPMichigan]

The situation you describe (you continuously pushing for more) doesn't sound like you will ever take a No from her at face value.

Will you continue to want to put her in riskier situations?
At what point would it be enough?

Those would be my thoughts if my husband was reacting the same way.
It would completely stop me from moving forward. Full stop. Down deep if I can't trust him to take my no as an answer and puts his need for this fantasy above my thoughts on it.....I simply can't take that final step. It isn't safe.

These are my honest feelings on this.
You may disagree and that is your choice.

Emotional safety is just as important as physical safety and it would feel unsafe emotionally if my husband wanted more and more not accepting no as my answer.

[snoogaloo82]

The situation you describe (you continuously pushing for more) doesn't sound like you will ever take a No from her at face value.

Will you continue to want to put her in riskier situations?
At what point would it be enough?

Those would be my thoughts if my husband was reacting the same way.
It would completely stop me from moving forward. Full stop. Down deep if I can't trust him to take my no as an answer and puts his need for this fantasy above my thoughts on it.....I simply can't take that final step. It isn't safe.

These are my honest feelings on this.
You may disagree and that is your choice.

Emotional safety is just as important as physical safety and it would feel unsafe emotionally if my husband wanted more and more not accepting no as my answer.

To me a Hotwife should always be the one in charge of the meeting, and the husband just along for the ride so to speak. I agree with you. If he can't take no for an answer then no should be the answer, and leave it at that until he learns that it's her body and mind that she's dealing with, and not his slave to do with as he sees fit. That's just my $.02 worth!