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Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:20 pm 
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I know this is a very hotbutton issue. I’ve seen it briefly discussed in other threads. But I find no thread dedicated to this issue.

How do you reconcile this lifestyle with your religion. I’m looking specifically at the Christian religion, but I would like to hear from other religions as well.

Some rules that should be adhered to:
1) No religion bashing
2) Be courteous to others beliefs
3) If you disagree with someone’s beliefs be polite about it. I don’t want to see a flame war.
4) No flame wars (just incase I wasn’t clear)
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Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:03 pm 
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A major term in scripture that is translated "sexual immorality" is porneia. What the purest definition means is the selling of your sexuality, and was known as describing going to the prostitutes at the temple of an idol. Thus it wasn't so much the sex, but it's link to idolatry in this regard.

"Fornication" is a Latin word, and didn't enter biblical thought until the Latin Vulgate. Brought on by the Roman Catholics trying to gain more control over people's lives. The best way to do that? Make people believe that they would go to hell for doing something.

The other thing is to look at all the men who had multiple wives, and slept with women who were not their wives, and see that God did not "smite" them. Good smote King David one time, because of his adultery with Bathsheba.

Adultery is akin to idolatry. Which is the replacement, disrespect, and betrayal of the spouse. Cheating is about deceit and unfaithfulness. Where as hotwifing is about openness and devotion to one another.

Another simple thing to do is ask this question. "If one man and one woman was the only way to go about this, why didnt He just say that?" I mean, instead there are guidelines, and standards to uphold that would insinuate that something like this lifestyle is legit.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:50 pm 
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calmcurioushubby wrote:
Go to the Miscellaneous forum, and the second or third sticky thread at the top of the list is “The Truth About Sex” by Tom Katz. I think you will find it interesting and thought provoking reading.

Never hurts to start a new thread either, there are a lot of new folks in the nieghborhood.

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Would suggest that thread as well!


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Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:52 pm 
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Good comments from D_Lited_HubWife

Some comments. Sorry about the length.

St Paul is usually seen as the one who caused all the problem. Jewish morality which he grew up with was a property based morality, where wives were chattels. So adultery was a form of theft. And sex within marriage had to be heterosexual because you were there to produce the kids who you would hand your property down to.
Gay sex was unnatural and, like masturbation, was a waste of the precious seed.
Roman sexual morality was more liberal and it was certainly acceptable to fuck your slaves and to fuck teenage boys.
Paul unfortunately stuck with his Jewish morality (unlike on circumcision).

But Paul would actually have preferred his disciples not to have any sex at all and to focus on spiritual things. He only allowed marriage if chastity was too tough. As the Book of Common Prayer put it: 'marriage was ordained ... that such persons as have not the gift of continence might marry'. Marriage on the other hand was not to be entered into just to 'satisfy men's carnal lusts and appetites, like brute beasts that have no understanding'. Pity about that, since carnal lust can be rather enjoyable.

The idea of avoiding any sex will strike a chord in the cuckold forum. One holy man called Nicolas denied himself sex and it was said he urged his wife to cuckold him. A sect called the Nicolaitans, who were cuckolds and hotwives, is condemned in Revelation 2:6.

The Corinthians were keen Christians and very much took to heart the instruction 'Love one another'. With this new mandate they permitted one man to have sex with his dead father's widow, his stepmother, since they evidently got on well. The Corinthians were rather put out when St Paul told the pair to cease and desist. Again this was Paul following the old morality not the new.

So it's problematic stuff. Paul was a conservative and it is clear that many of his strictures (eg women not to talk in church) were rules that he had grown up with and he wasn't going to change them just because this was a new religion.

Today I think we should start - like the Corinthians - with the mandate 'Love one another'. Throughout OHW we see that hotwifing is only successful if the couple have a strong relationship and indeed do love each other.
We should embrace our sexuality and enjoy our sexual appetite without guilt. But we should understand that it is a powerful appetite and we need to be careful for ourselves and our loved ones. We need to give time to reclaim each other afterwards.
Like all appetites, we should not become enslaved to it, but should take a pause from it, a detox, as folk on here often do.
For me, I like the idea of being both a Christian and a cuckold. It is who I am, or at least - in both cases - who I wish to be.


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Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:28 pm 
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That's an issue that each seriously religious person entering into a hot wife relationship should carefully consider. It would probably come as a shock for those who have read our experiences here, but I am sincerely religious.

This isn't intended to be advice, but I too considered all issues of my personal concerns. It's a matter of biblical history that King David had seven wives and multiple concubines (a concubine was a slave woman who was available for sexual activity). King Solomon went far beyond that; he had 700 wives and 300 concubines. Each was favored by the Creator not by their concubines but for their estimable works. Biblical archaeologists have uncovered King David's kingdom, finding that it was far larger than previously believed by past theologians and archaeologists. David had another moral issue, far greater than of his sexual history; and judging from scripture, that too is apparently overlooked.

Each issue of concern should be carefully researched and thought out, and I do not believe many truly understand what is written in the Bible, either the Old or New Testament. The original Hebrew words of the Old Testament often have several interpretations, and that's true for every language I have studied. Translations into English are often misinterpreted. As the most famous example, many familiar only with English translations have concluded the world is only 6.000 to 10,000 years old. That's clearly wrong. The word for "day," as in Genesis 1:5 and subsequent verses, is a "day" of Creation. The Hebrew word is "yom," which is, in fact the word for a 24-hour day. However, the word "yom" is also used more than 70 times throughout the Bible to mean a long, indefinite period of time. I think you get the idea. The truth requires research, but that doesn't guarantee your understanding, particularly when it comes to the symbolic language used in scripture. You said, "particularly from a Christian perspective," so I can only offer that the Creator seems to be rather understandings of humankind's ignorance.

If you conclude it's wrong, it's wrong. I have reached a different conclusion and for us, I have no problem with our lifestyle. Do not take my advice, decide for yourself.


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The game changer for me was reading the book Divine Sex. It concisely addressed every aspect of human sexuality with biblical truth - opposed to man made theology created and passed on by organized religion.

I am shocked that the book never really gained much traction. Guessing it's too radical for mainstream "Christianity*. It took awhile for my wife to wrap her head around these radical liberties and fully embace her blossoming sexuality.

I ordered a copy online over 10 years ago. I'm curious if anyone has purchased a copy recently.

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Mr1SexyGILF wrote:
The game changer for me was reading the book Divine Sex. It concisely addressed every aspect of human sexuality with biblical truth - opposed to man made theology created and passed on by organized religion.

Mr GILF


Who's the author?


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Mr1SexyGILF wrote:
The game changer for me was reading the book Divine Sex. It concisely addressed every aspect of human sexuality with biblical truth - opposed to man made theology created and passed on by organized religion.

Mr GILF


Who's the author?

Divine Sex: Liberating Sex from Religious Tradition by Philo Thelos

I did not realize until I googled it just now that there is now another book with the title Divine Sex that appears to be written from the polar opposite, puritanical, holier than thou perspective.

It would be hilarious if some of the books I am recommending, accidentally got into the hands of some snarky old prudes, expecting to validate their beliefs about how evil and sinful that s** word is.

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Adults Only: The religious beliefs that I was raised with hindered me for a long time from considering a non-monogamous, hotwife type of open marriage when my husband asked me to think about it after I turned 31. I had been taught that sex with anyone but my husband would be a very serious evil. Having been raised in a strict family, we never talked about sex... I was still a virgin at 25 when I married my husband (he was 34) at our local church in South Florida where I was raised. I was a naive girl I guess...but still had the strong urges to try sex with guys I dated all through college (many frustrated guys started dating other girls as a result of my strict moral beliefs). It was very frustrating for me and my natural urges as a woman, and yet I wanted to be a "good" girl in college for my parents.

It was only after some years of marriage that I learned from a few girlfriends at work about how some married women occasional have sex outside their marriage when on layovers because their husband was ok with it. One of them was a pretty 27 year old woman who confessed to me privately that it was exciting and normal to consider such a taboo and intensely erotic experience outside marriage if both the husband and wife were completey ok with it, like her and her husband were. She in fact told me she had men friends in certain cities who go out with her and her husband allowed her to have sex with them--they were in a swinger type of arrangement where he dated women when he was out of town too. So at 31, I began trusting in my husband's thinking of about me trying sex someday if he was really was ok with it and was turned on with me safely going on a date with another safe guy I liked (even though he didn't care to be with other women) Yes, I was extremely nervous for months about if I would really ever try it. I began reading a lot about the "hotwife" type sex and what religion said about this radical concept. This was an area of caution because I knew that if I let myself go completely wild, I knew I would probably be a "slut" and get in real trouble because I wanted sex so bad before marriage. After six years of marriage, my husband had asked me to consider trying a more liberal, hotwife lifestyle and it was then that it hit me: I needed to rethink what my feelings were about the "act of sexual pleasure" with another man for fun" vs. my feelings of "love just for my husband" in our marriage. I finally came to what I call a "compromise" between what most religious people would tell me about sex outside of marriage vs. what I felt in my heart about the value of sexual pleasure and new sensual experiences in my life and in our marriage.

My feeling was that "adultery" was very, very bad; however, if my own husband was ok with me enjoying consensual, safe sex with other men (not just feeling ok about it but really liking the idea that I might try sex outside our marriage) then maybe it wouldn't be considered an adulterous act because I was not cheating on him but fulfilling both of our sexual needs in a new, modern way of thinking. My parents would probably still not agree, but right now I feel that it was a private decision we made in our own marriage. I am learning that loving my husband as my soulmate and also loving other men in a physical expression without judgment is something that I am comfortable with.because my husband encourages me to be comfortable with this arrangement (I love the adventure, variety and attention too). My heart is always loyal to my hubby even though I enjoy temporal sexual pleasure mostly with selective other classy men from our safe group of swinger lifestyle friends. I have felt more "alive" after letting my guilt leave me... I am more confident about my sexual self and enjoy the gift of sexual pleasure that we have been created by instinct to desire in the first place!! For me sex is good, not evil--it's supposed to feel good! I believe men and women were told to "have joy" in this life, and this lifestyle is one way I definitely feel a sensual type of joy!

My husband explained to me that I already had enjoyed physical pleasure from men's hands on my body with massages and no religious friends of mine seemed to be concerned with that...even knowing that I was basically naked with only a white towel on my private areas. A non-monagamous, hotwife marriage is like taking a massage experience with the added benefit of sexual pleasure from another man's touch who I am attracted to, with everyone knowing that I will go home to my husband afterwards who fully agrees and likes me doing this anyhow. It's part of our marriage now of who we are as an open minded couple I guess.

I was told by my parents and church people to "submit to my husband" when I got married at 25...and actually I do because it was he who encouraged me to consider benefits of a Hotwife lifestyle in the first place, if I wanted to. My husband told me that because he loves me so much that he wanted me to enjoy all the pleasures of this life, including maybe trying consensual sex with safe men of my choosing, using protection of course. He knew that I only had enjoyed sex with him as my husband and no one else in my entire life yet...that it wasn't fair to me to not at least try it once for fun with another man I felt a desire toward. He told me that this lifestyle wasn't to replace what we had as a couple, but only to add some adventure and fun to it, that's all. Maybe we are wrong, but for now it has worked to privately meet our needs, and it's been a fun and exciting activity we occasionally enjoy. I believe each person's choices are unique and very private between their spouse and their religious beliefs--so no judgment--to each their own.

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The other thing is to look at all the men who had multiple wives, and slept with women who were not their wives, and see that God did not "smite" them. Good smote King David one time, because of his adultery with Bathsheba.

.....In fairness, God stepped on David because He essentially had the woman's husband killed. God never stepped on David for sex, He could not permit innocent blood to go unpunished.


Adultery is akin to idolatry. Which is the replacement, disrespect, and betrayal of the spouse. Cheating is about deceit and unfaithfulness. Where as hotwifing is about openness and devotion to one another.

...adultery is more of an umbrella, that encompasses deceitfulness and lying...two things God hates..Because of the openness of sex throughout the old testament, awa polyamorous relationships..I simply can't relate it to wife sharing.

Another simple thing to do is ask this question. "If one man and one woman was the only way to go about this, why didnt He just say that?" I mean, instead there are guidelines, and standards to uphold that would insinuate that something like this lifestyle is legit.
...the only thing mentioned in the NT is that a BISHOP, or man of church position..should be the husband of one wife.


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somethings are b"shalt nots", and somethings are "you shouldn't''s"..as in right now.as in the food guidelines for the O.t. They simply didn't have the proper facilities to keep shellfish or pork safe. However that didn't stop them from raising pigs. If a man genuinely gets off on sharing his wife, and it's a mutually acceptable thing..not sure God has a problem with that..HOWEVER..sure, the motive can have ramifications. on your relationship, and like all things..LIFE HAPPENS, and sometimes there can be unforseen issues. Will God "smote" someone for consentual sex..don't think so, but life can.


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Unread postPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:34 am 
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cthubby, i agree.

Religion and sexual desires are conversations that will go in forever !! They really don’t have to conflict unless your interpretation of each one of them collide.

I feel that god understands that humans are sexual beings. He does not approve of sneakily coveting thy neighbors wife, but says nothing about consenting adults searching for and experiencing their sexual cravings and fetishes. And God offers forgiveness for those of us that may go a little too far !!

We often get “religious rules of acceptance” confused with “rules that have been accepted by society” and have labeled certain sexual practices as “unacceptable” or even as “unlawful”. Society has only accepted marriage as allowed Sex, while God knows well that men and women have urges that cannot be confined to marriage. So, who is right ?? I think that is only in the eyes of the beholder !! I think only you can justify what is right for you.

What I do know is that sexual urges will win out most of the time !! It seems people can toss out Society’s rules very easily and feel no remorse while breaking them. However, religious rules will leave many with guilt that will bother them afterwards.

In all actuality, sex runs our lives. We can try to ignore it and lean on the satisfaction of religion to try to take the place of satisfaction of sex, but it is hard and most will succumb to sex. We are sexual creatures. What a shame to live our lives trying to fend off the only urges that actually give us the mental and physical satisfaction we crave.

Why can’t we live with religion to guide us to do the things we know are the right way to live our lives and look forward to going to heaven once we leave this earth.. and still allow ourselves the freedom to experience our sexual cravings and satisfaction.

When a woman gets wet and a man gets a hardon, they have the choice of having Sex or praying for the wetness and hardness to go away. That is our choice and that choice is very personal. I respect a person’s choice either way. Maybe we should all respect those choices and not try to interpret terminology to make a person think one way or another. They have to live with themselves so maybe we shouldn’t meddle in those choices. Maybe we should just find someone that has made the same choices that we have made and live their lives with the same goals. It seems to me that would make everyone the happiest !!

Just my thoughts ....

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calmcurioushubby wrote:
Go to the Miscellaneous forum, and the second or third sticky thread at the top of the list is “The Truth About Sex” by Tom Katz. I think you will find it interesting and thought provoking reading.

Never hurts to start a new thread either, there are a lot of new folks in the nieghborhood.

Cch.


That thread and now this one are so exclusively christian they simply do not speak to me. Having had family willing to castigate over sexual infractions, it wasn't over religion except in so far as we live in a predominantly judeo christian context.

Being queer I had to answer most of these questions for myself early on and the context I understand it in is sociopolitical. The view that women are property has come along with agrarian society and economics. The hunter gatherer societies that preceded (and those that still exist) are thought not to place any investment in these ideas.

It's a non question for me and having known my share of kinky and gay christians it's generally not been an issue for them either.


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Brad I agree totally with your views.

My Goddess would go to mass every Sunday after making love to Brian Saturday afternoon. There was no guilt. Both Her religious beliefs and Her animal sexuality along with Her intelligence were what attracted me to Her.
I considered their mixed cum like a sacrament that I accepted as a way of symbolically accepting their love/lust for each other. We called the mattress his sexy wife made for us an altar. There are so many parallels to religious ceremony (of all faiths) and sex.


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Brad I agree totally with your views.

My Goddess would go to mass every Sunday after making love to Brian Saturday afternoon. There was no guilt. Both Her religious beliefs and Her animal sexuality along with Her intelligence were what attracted me to Her.
I considered their mixed cum like a sacrament that I accepted as a way of symbolically accepting their love/lust for each other. We called the mattress his sexy wife made for us an altar. There are so many parallels to religious ceremony (of all faiths) and sex.


Yes, there are parallels. There are many religions and cults based on sex alone... with many faithful followers. Hot wives and cuckolds are a big part of them.

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Mr1SexyGILF wrote:
The game changer for me was reading the book Divine Sex. I'm curious if anyone has purchased a copy recently.

Mr GILF


Yes. I ordered it 6 weeks ago and read it quickly. I wouldn't call it "concise" and it is repetitious. It could be cut in half and still be an exhaustive look at the issue of what is God's will regarding sex and His people versus what is dogma made up by men who think that God's word is insufficient.

The result of reading that book? My wife and I have found sexual freedom and being a Christian are totally in harmony. I am recovering now from prostate surgery and hope to get the green light from my doctor to resume sex in a few weeks. At that point, my wife and I will see how my equipment works with each other first and then move into having fun with friends as well.

The book was $28.50 but honestly, had I known the difference it would make, I would have bought it for $50,000 if I had to.


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My opinion is if sex was merely for pro creation why would any god make it so pleasurable. It could have been just as bland as cutting your hair or nails with no feelings.
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D_Lited_HubWife wrote:
A major term in scripture that is translated "sexual immorality" is porneia. What the purest definition means is the selling of your sexuality, and was known as describing going to the prostitutes at the temple of an idol. Thus it wasn't so much the sex, but it's link to idolatry in this regard.

"Fornication" is a Latin word, and didn't enter biblical thought until the Latin Vulgate. Brought on by the Roman Catholics trying to gain more control over people's lives. The best way to do that? Make people believe that they would go to hell for doing something.

The other thing is to look at all the men who had multiple wives, and slept with women who were not their wives, and see that God did not "smite" them. Good smote King David one time, because of his adultery with Bathsheba.

Adultery is akin to idolatry. Which is the replacement, disrespect, and betrayal of the spouse. Cheating is about deceit and unfaithfulness. Where as hotwifing is about openness and devotion to one another.

Another simple thing to do is ask this question. "If one man and one woman was the only way to go about this, why didnt He just say that?" I mean, instead there are guidelines, and standards to uphold that would insinuate that something like this lifestyle is legit.

Just thoughts.


Well written!
My personal opinion is if Hotwifing and Swinging brings a husband and wife together, makes their marriage stronger, creates greater depth of intimacy and communication, brings joy and sexual fullfulment with each other, then this is positive.
I believe that we are sexual beings and that God gave us each other to be pleasing to God, worship God, and be pleasing to each other.
Swingers that I have met, in general, are some of the most giving, friendly, caring, and genuine people I’ve met. They enjoy pleasing others and their mates.
There are exceptions to everything, of course, but the saying “Couples that play together stay together” appears to be true, in my opinion.
We are alive such a short time.
If swinging and hotwifing activities bring joy and pleasure to “all” involved then this is positive.
If swinging and hotwifing is done under intoxication, duress, intimidation, decet, and anyone involved feels bad or hurt for participating it pulls a marriage apart then its very bad, the definition of sinful in my opinion


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Adults Only: Fascinating and insightful comments here, we enjoy reading them.

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Mr1SexyGILF wrote:
The game changer for me was reading the book Divine Sex. I'm curious if anyone has purchased a copy recently.

Mr GILF


Yes. I ordered it 6 weeks ago and read it quickly. I wouldn't call it "concise" and it is repetitious. It could be cut in half and still be an exhaustive look at the issue of what is God's will regarding sex and His people versus what is dogma made up by men who think that God's word is insufficient.

The result of reading that book? My wife and I have found sexual freedom and being a Christian are totally in harmony. I am recovering now from prostate surgery and hope to get the green light from my doctor to resume sex in a few weeks. At that point, my wife and I will see how my equipment works with each other first and then move into having fun with friends as well.

The book was $28.50 but honestly, had I known the difference it would make, I would have bought it for $50,000 if I had to.


I'm curious if you have discussed what you will do if your "equipment" does not work. I am assuming your wife will become an exclusive Hotwife and you a cuckold by circumstances? Not too bad really. Life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. I am up for some minor prostate surgery myself in a couple of weeks so I sympathize. Nothing major in my case, but according to my urologist one aftermath is often dry orgasms as your cum can "go in reverse" as it were. We're not too concerned about that for several reasons. Ever since my vasectomy many years ago my cum loads are usually pretty small anyway - and thinner and just a little milky, almost clear really. She gets plenty of nice big thick cum loads from her bulls anyway. And let's face it I'm a cuck and a crossdressing sissy faggot cuck to boot, so who cares if I have dry cums? Just another excuse for her and her bulls to humiliate me - not that they need excuses, LO!! One upside would be no mess to clean up when I jerk off.


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hereforthebeer wrote:
Mr1SexyGILF wrote:
The game changer for me was reading the book Divine Sex. I'm curious if anyone has purchased a copy recently.

Mr GILF


Yes. I ordered it 6 weeks ago and read it quickly. I wouldn't call it "concise" and it is repetitious. It could be cut in half and still be an exhaustive look at the issue of what is God's will regarding sex and His people versus what is dogma made up by men who think that God's word is insufficient.

The result of reading that book? My wife and I have found sexual freedom and being a Christian are totally in harmony. I am recovering now from prostate surgery and hope to get the green light from my doctor to resume sex in a few weeks. At that point, my wife and I will see how my equipment works with each other first and then move into having fun with friends as well.

The book was $28.50 but honestly, had I known the difference it would make, I would have bought it for $50,000 if I had to.


I'm curious if you have discussed what you will do if your "equipment" does not work. I am assuming your wife will become an exclusive Hotwife and you a cuckold by circumstances? Not too bad really. Life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. I am up for some minor prostate surgery myself in a couple of weeks so I sympathize. Nothing major in my case, but according to my urologist one aftermath is often dry orgasms as your cum can "go in reverse" as it were. We're not too concerned about that for several reasons. Ever since my vasectomy many years ago my cum loads are usually pretty small anyway - and thinner and just a little milky, almost clear really. She gets plenty of nice big thick cum loads from her bulls anyway. And let's face it I'm a cuck and a crossdressing sissy faggot cuck to boot, so who cares if I have dry cums? Just another excuse for her and her bulls to humiliate me - not that they need excuses, LO!! One upside would be no mess to clean up when I jerk off.


Hi - since your question is a side-issue to the original question, I won't respond in this thread, but I am sending you a PM. For those who are also curious, PM me. :-)


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Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:35 pm 
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bradisalpha wrote:

Just my thoughts ....

Brad


Be careful there Brad. Remember what happened last time you expressed your thoughts, :lol:

Actually, there is a hotwife that has done real good writing on this subject that I have found interesting. I know she goes by Jane but I think the call sign is mrsjanedoe or something like that.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:41 pm 
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Too many replies to this thread are anti-Catholic. That is a weak and immoral excuse. Don't blame the Church for our sins. We do them. I do them. We know we're doing them. Knowing we sin is innate in our consciences but we do anyway. I realize that man (and woman) is/are a fallen creature who is naturally sinful. So what I do is go to confession. Then try to stay away from sin but usually fail. The sin could be sexual, cheating on my taxes, losing my temper, etc.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:58 pm 
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D_Lited_HubWife wrote:
A major term in scripture that is translated "sexual immorality" is porneia. What the purest definition means is the selling of your sexuality, and was known as describing going to the prostitutes at the temple of an idol. Thus it wasn't so much the sex, but it's link to idolatry in this regard.
"Fornication" is a Latin word, and didn't enter biblical thought until the Latin Vulgate. Brought on by the Roman Catholics trying to gain more control over people's lives. The best way to do that? Make people believe that they would go to hell for doing something.
The other thing is to look at all the men who had multiple wives, and slept with women who were not their wives, and see that God did not "smite" them. Good smote King David one time, because of his adultery with Bathsheba.
Adultery is akin to idolatry. Which is the replacement, disrespect, and betrayal of the spouse. Cheating is about deceit and unfaithfulness. Where as hotwifing is about openness and devotion to one another.
Another simple thing to do is ask this question. "If one man and one woman was the only way to go about this, why didnt He just say that?" I mean, instead there are guidelines, and standards to uphold that would insinuate that something like this lifestyle is legit. Just thoughts.


Those are essentially the positions my wife and I came to accept. Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines. A concubine was a slave for sexual purposes. David also had multiple wives. It wasn't clear to us what the Creator thought of that, but each are titans in scripture for their faith and other works.

I'm sure many who have read our stories here would be surprised that we attend church and have faith in scripture. On the other hand, our lifestyle isn't something we're going to reveal to others in our circles. We don't judge others for their sexual preferences, and ours has been something we have worked through for ourselves. That's what I would suggest to others should any ask: Each person needs to make up his/her mind based on the best information and common sense available.


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