Something really strange

[McRex]

Hello everyone. I very rarely write anything here, I mostly just get acquainted with the opinions of others, their vision of situations and the experience of the situations themselves. But today my wife returned from work as usual and during dinner she told me a very strange thing. Today, one of the employees at work showed a video of his child where he was playing and putting his foot to his ear, pretending that it was a phone. After which she paused and continued with the words: “And then we all in the office tried to do the same and you know what? I’m the only one who succeeded! Are you proud of me?” To which I answered without a second thought: “Of course, dear.” We continued talking about other topics about the past day. It took a few seconds for my brain to digest what she said, and for some reason everything froze inside me for a moment and thoughts arose: Wait a minute! WHAT?! I can't quite imagine how to put my foot to my ear. But my imagination could only draw a pose in which you need to: Lean back on something wide, Take off your shoes, Spread your legs wide, Hug one leg with your hands and Pull it up to your face, at work, in an office, in front of others (she is the only woman in the office, I don’t know how many men work with her). It is not possible to do this on an office chair, at least I doubt it. Not on the office floor either. She came home from work dressed in black tight jeans. Is it difficult to imagine how the wife looked to these men from the outside in front of everyone. And who could even suggest that they do all this just like that? She always said that in the office the men were over 40 or 50, all married, all with children, all of a traditional orientation, very serious and boring. And now a moment arises that does not fit into this picture at all! This is comparable to a picturesque serious painting in which the landscape is clearly measured and balanced and beautiful, and one day you notice that fried giraffes are flying in the sky in this landscape. And you ask yourself: WAIT! WHAT?! WTF?!
In general, I’m sorry for taking up your time to read this, I just somehow don’t know what happened there. Haha The puzzles don’t fit in my head, because I’m completely sure that she didn’t deceive me by telling me about it. This is some very erotic moment, it seems to me. A young woman in black tight jeans takes off her shoes and spreads her legs in front of a crowd of men trying to show an acrobatic trick in the office.

[Topnotch]

Those older guys are the ones you have to watch out for. Horny old rascals they are, and experienced too, I might add. The one with the video was probably just wanting to see if she would try and do it. Just my guess. But it is hot

[SilverStag]

Ask her to show you how she did it. When she does, that can open the door to ask her what the others thought of her abilities, and if they have those "show and tell" moments often. (Sounds like a great place to work!! lol).

You can use this incident as a way of opening the door to talk about her sexuality ("Did you think that the guys got turned on?, How can those tight jeans stretch so much?, etc).

[McRex]

Today I couldn’t ask her to repeat that trick, she said she felt bad and wasn’t in the mood. I asked why she was not in the mood. To which she replied that today she met her mother on the way from work and she scolded her again. Because my wife promised that I would make her mom new furniture that was the right size for her home. But I’m very tired from work, sometimes I overwork and I’m bad at making fittings for the apartment.
Then she said the strangest words of the whole evening: “Then I’ll call Alex to make this furniture.” I asked, is Alex someone from her work? To which she replied that no, this was her ex-friend with whom she had an intimate relationship many years ago. What struck me was the following:
- She has a contact of a person whom she said many years ago that she deleted from her phone.
- When we need to make something or repair an apartment, we look at advertisements in the city and hire a person according to the advertisement. So we hired a man who made our bathroom ceilings. Why doesn’t she consider the possibility of doing the same here? Why suddenly call this man and bring him to her mother's house so that he can do some repairs there? This is... strange Haha

[McRex]

While I was writing the text above, she was doing stretches before bed and I saw her do this trick (I didn’t ask her to do this). And in order to put her foot to her ear, she had to lie completely on her back and spread her legs very wide. It looked quite exciting. But since I didn’t ask her to do anything and besides, she was in a bad mood, I didn’t ask questions.

[unclecuck]

I'm sure everyone has an opinion about this.
as in older creepy experienced men, I also have an opinion. but I don't think you want to hear it.


Uncle

[SilverStag]

It sounds to me like you two need to have a heart-to-heart talk about these things. They seem to be piling up and she is surprising you with information that doesn't meet with your expectations. Involve a professional if you need to. I suspect there are deeper issues (including that her mother scolds her because YOU didn't do as she asked...).

I know that this advice runs contrary to why most of us are here (encouraging our wives to play with others -or being that "other"), but all ENM variants require a solid basis of communication between the partners. You seem to be left guessing. If I am mistaken, then by all means continue, but I really think you are on a course for trouble. If you desire to be a Cuck, then perhaps you need to write in that specific section of the forum to avoid confusion.

[2inUPMichigan]

I never make promises to anyone for my husband, if someone wants him to do something I tell them to go ask him. If someone is questioning me about something he promised to do that is between them, not me, so I insist they discuss it between the two of them and leave me out of it.

Communication means clear direct lines of communication, not using the old string and cup method (for those who remember it).

If she says something you don't know how to interpret the only way you will ever understand is to ask her.

My advice is to slow down and listen to how and when the two of you are talking about conflicts
● Request that she refer any questions her mother has to you so that she is not caught in the middle.
● Ask her to please let her mother know to ask you directly if she needs your help so you can make sure you can set aside the time to help her.

These conflicts can easily be removed by changing how they are dealt with.
Letting this fester never solved anything!
If you want this the two of you first need to establish open and honest clear communication. Good luck!

[McRex]

Thanks everyone for the tips and advice. Minor conflicts with her mother happen from time to time, but they are ordinary, I can distract my wife from them with a pleasant dinner and watching a movie. Yesterday I did just that. It did not help. This means that she was not in a bad mood because of her mother. She has an internal conflict and until everything settles down in her thoughts, a frank conversation will not happen. That's the kind of person she is. The only thing I can assume is that her internal conflict is connected with this man, Alex. Because she doesn't want to look for a repair specialist from an advertisement. I know my wife very well, I need to give her time to figure everything out on her own and when this happens she will be ready for an open conversation. Now I can only help her and wait until the confusion in her thoughts calms down.

[McRex]

The essence of the topic is that she says strange things and does strange things, I don’t bother her with questions so as not to make her feel uncomfortable, her mother pesters her with questions, I try to provide support for her. I would just like an outside perspective on what she says and does.

[McRex]

This evening she is quiet, constantly cuddling and wants emotional support. I don't know what's on her mind. I've never seen her like this in all our years together. Today she mentioned Alex again and that she would probably call him. I had a choice: to support her decision or say that we will find the right specialist from the advertisement (as we usually did). You asked earlier if I wanted to become a cuckold. I supported her decision, so my answer to this question is obvious.
Is it possible that her internal conflict is still connected with the possibility of seeing this man again? His number could have changed in so much time. He may refuse to meet with her citing being very busy. He may already have a wife and children. I don’t remember on this forum that anyone told a real experience when a woman herself strives into the arms of another man (usually it is husbands who want and initiate such relationships), but at the same time is afraid of her desires?

[unclecuck]

McRex.
Have you considered that it could be possible that she is acting the way she does recently, is due to giving you hints?
Ever thought that maybe she did something more at work? Or maybe she is already in contact with her EX, and now she is giving you hints to see your reaction?

regardless, like others had said here, Communications and honesty is the number one rule.

Uncle

[FNQLivin]

But she’s been with other men whilst you’ve been married before?

[Pufferfish]

It's clear that you believe she has something on her mind that she's keeping from you. It appears to me she is "giving hints" about it, whether she wants to talk to you or just wants to make herself process stuff I don't know. But I'd say some difficult communication is definitely needed. You know your wife better than any of us online people can possibly know, but it does seem to be some turbulent waters at the time being.

[McRex]

But she’s been with other men whilst you’ve been married before?

Seven years ago she had petting with a work colleague (not sex). But he let it slip to his wife (I think he's an asshole for this). After such troubles, he left work and moved to another city. My wife also left that job and found another one. At that time, I tried to give her more comfort and support and communication, and as I see from her now, she sometimes remembers that time without bitterness (thank god).

[McRex]

McRex.
Have you considered that it could be possible that she is acting the way she does recently, is due to giving you hints?
Ever thought that maybe she did something more at work? Or maybe she is already in contact with her EX, and now she is giving you hints to see your reaction?

regardless, like others had said here, Communications and honesty is the number one rule.

Uncle

1. I have noticed before that she behaves relaxedly with men at work, not in a sexual sense. It was that she came home from work and laughed, telling how she stood on the forklift pedal and slowly began to lower under her light weight. And so slowly that all the men nearby laughed and asked her to do it again. But she always said that they were all reserved, serious, family men and very boring.
2. It doesn’t look like she’s communicating with Alex, she seems to be delaying this moment of contact, it seems to me.

[McRex]

It's clear that you believe she has something on her mind that she's keeping from you. It appears to me she is "giving hints" about it, whether she wants to talk to you or just wants to make herself process stuff I don't know. But I'd say some difficult communication is definitely needed. You know your wife better than any of us online people can possibly know, but it does seem to be some turbulent waters at the time being.

Thanks for your opinion and guidance. In all our years together (more than 10), she always hides her thoughts, she can say one thing and then do the opposite the next day. I feel very envious when I read here about open communication and complete trust with wives. I simply understand her psychology and know that this is just a different type of woman. She needs to be accepted exactly as she is, she herself said this a long time ago. By the way, her name is Julia and she is 35 years old. I am older than her. I'm not afraid to write real names here, because I don't see any problem in this.

[Gulfcpl]

It’s a pity that so many couples have communication issues. I’ve never understood how two people living in the same home cannot trust each other to open all their thoughts. Studies have shown that most marriages fail because of finances or sex. Communication is lacking for both of these causes because they aren’t discussed. You mentioned that your wife has said that you need to accept her the way she is. It sounds like she has no desire to improve upon her communication. It also sounds like her mother is a root cause for this. As hard as it is, parents need to butt out unless asked for advice.

[McRex]

Just making a quick note. Last Friday Julia came home from work as usual. But when she got out of the shower and I went to wash my hair in the shower, I noticed her work clothes on the laundry basket and her panties lay on top. I’m not sure why this seemed unusual to me, I took them in my hands and was shocked. Her underwear was not only wet from pussy juice, it was completely wet. In all our years together, I don’t remember ever seeing her underwear soaking wet that much. But I know that she carries panty liners with her. So what went wrong on Friday? Maybe for other wives this is not something special, but for mine this is out of the ordinary. Overall, this is very strange.

[AZPainter]

I'm late to this thread and I read all the comments, but I have a question no one seemed to comment or ask. I understand how she did this feat from your description and she did it at home doing stretching exercises. Was she wearing those tight jeans at home when she did this? It seems to me if she was wearing those tight jeans at work it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to do this while wearing them. I don't mean any disrespect but this hit me the moment you told us what she was wearing at work that day. Just my curiosity.

[McRex]

I'm late to this thread and I read all the comments, but I have a question no one seemed to comment or ask. I understand how she did this feat from your description and she did it at home doing stretching exercises. Was she wearing those tight jeans at home when she did this? It seems to me if she was wearing those tight jeans at work it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to do this while wearing them. I don't mean any disrespect but this hit me the moment you told us what she was wearing at work that day. Just my curiosity.

I myself don’t understand how she did it there in front of everyone. But she looked very proud and serious. I doubt that she exaggerated, having known her for so many years, she only has a habit of downplaying any events. So she definitely did it and I’m grateful to the manufacturer of these jeans that they survived this. haha

[McRex]

One more note. Yesterday, during an evening walk with my wife, during a normal conversation, for some reason she suddenly asked the question: “Are you a jealous type of man?” This was an unexpected and strange question, because she usually draws conclusions on her own, rather than asking me what I think about myself. This is the first time she has behaved like this. I decided to take this moment and again bring her thoughts to the topic of the intimacy of married women with other men. I was able to come up with this answer: “I don’t consider myself jealous without strong arguments. For example, if a married woman is dating someone else, then this is not a reason for jealousy.” Usually she understands my hints and reacts to them very sharply, she does not like the topic of hotwife and everything connected with it. Therefore, as usual, I prepared to meet her criticism with the words “again you’re talking about these terrible perversions.” But for some reason she smiled, kissed me on the cheek and said nothing. It's strange and doesn't look like her at all. I don't see anything else unusual in her behavior.

[Island]

She is definitely considering something, I personally think you should give her the space to consider and think about, don’t fall in the trap of pushing her, unless she asks for input … good luck!

[McRex]

She is definitely considering something, I personally think you should give her the space to consider and think about, don’t fall in the trap of pushing her, unless she asks for input … good luck!

This will probably really be the right choice. I don't know what's going on in her head. Returning to the question about Alex, she called him anyway. But he can't help because he's too busy. That's all the events, nothing else strange happened.

[McRex]

In December the whole company gathers for a corporate party. Julia started the conversation about this suddenly and added that this year you can come to the corporate event with your spouses. She said that she was obliged to invite me, but she believed that I would be uncomfortable there for several reasons: 1 They have an all-male team, which means they will come with their wives and I will be there alone. 2 She is afraid that someone might remember her conversations with her colleagues about me, and what she said in them might offend me if I hear about it, because all the men there will be drunk, and they, even the sober ones, are very unrestrained in communication. That is, my wife seems to be inviting me to go there, but at the same time she’s discouraging me from going there. And I wonder what it was that she discussed about me that was so special that I would rather not hear about. In general, I’m still thinking about what to answer, whether to go or not.