Cheated on before beginning this?

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Were you cheated on in a serious relationship before you thought about this lifestyle choice?

Yes, I was cheated on in a previous or current relationship before beginning this lifestyle.
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No, my partners have always been faithful.
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14%
I don't know if I was cheated on for certain, but I got turned on by the idea it could happen.
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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by BadboyOwner » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:25 pm

Nope no women dumping me.. No matter how crazy those days were. hehe

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Unread post by cum4me2 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:26 pm

You go girl... :cool:
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Sinach you got a good one, cherish and enjoy.
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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by flhtci » Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:02 pm

i was with my ex for 10 years and in all that time i never cheated . but i cant say the same for her. i of course dont know for certain but i do have strong suspicions that she did have a fling or two. our relationship ended and i met the woman who would become my own "HW". we started off as "Swingers" but today i find myself in a situation that we cant go out to clubs to hook up and i suggested my "HW" go out and "date". something we have never done up until recently. i did love watching her get fucked though when we hooked up with other couples and thought it would be cool and interesting if she went out alone. she joined AM and immeadiately started to hook up with guys. the first was a dud , but the other two have become regular FBs and both she and i love it. i love how she gets ready , picks out clothes , gets her nails done nice , buys new shoes etc and then comes home and tells me about it and shows me her red cum filled pussy. i wont eat it , but i do love to feel her FBs cum inside my wifes pussy. its DEFINATELY taken our sex life , which was really good before, to heights its never been !
THERE IS NOTHING HOTTER THAN SHARING MY WIFE SEXUALLY WITH OTHER MEN , BOTH AS PART OF A THREESOME OR GROUP AND ON HER OWN.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by Puro-chile » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:46 pm

My ex didn't cheat while we were married, she did fess up about going out with her ex-bfs while going out with me (dating). Current wife lied about her escapades, I found out, she fessed up about one, not the other two. Nevertheless, she's a hotwife now.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by rs480 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:22 am

I'm not certain if I apply here since I am just a wannabe and I prefer the hotwife forum but the conversation is so very interesting all over this site!......
My first girlfriend cheated on me (she "did" just about everyone, she was very promiscuous). Beautiful gash that stunk to high heaven! I'd wager that after 25+ years and a couple of children (I think) that it's even more beautiful!
Absolutely hated it/her when I found out about her cheating on me several times (except for hearing about her telling one of her FB's "Last night xxxxx [me] fucked me with his big hard on"). That made me proud! Go figure!
But I was a nice guy (translates to weenie) and tried to look the other way...... Too damn much divorce in my family.

My last girlfriend cheated on me when we were dating at least twice that she'll admit, she got mad that I was going out with the guys and got in touch with one of her old boyfriends! Shit, she even kissed another boyfriend at a party very early on in our dating! I SAW that one but she said she was just saying goodbye. Pfft!
I wanted to fist a passed out little cutie that was put in the back of a car (I didn't, thank goodness) at the same party so it was kinda even in my book, hmmm....
Funny how we are wired at an early age. I didn't even know about the term 'fisting" at the time......
Back on the subject. I accidentally found out a few years after we were married (to each other for 22 years now) and was completely enraged, jealous and hateful!
I had heard something earlier and I had gotten the denial thing.
Ten years of jealous hatred nearly did us (and me) in until I realized that jealousy is fucking stupid and can only destroy people. I threw it out the window. I also repeat the line about too much divorce in my family........
I came to accept what had happened, forgave her completely, expected it to happen again (since I did not know the timeline at all, I would take random 1/2 days off of work to see if I could catch her and watch/join in-I never thought about doing something stupid that we hear about. I was raised fiercely independent and accepting of our fellow man) and over time it has grown into a wish for her to have even more fun than she's had with me. She admits that NEW dildos and vibrators get her off best, hence the reason why I think a real human would make it MORE intense and "fun" for her. I have grown to love her quite a lot over the years and want the best for her! And I want some "pie". Twinge!
For similar true ramblings of mine, see this thread. http://ourhotwives.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15164
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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by Postman_Expat » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:25 pm

Yep, absolutely. My first long term gf cheated on me continuously, she was a submissive Asian sex addict who would get taken by assertive guys at any opportunity. I would always find out and she would reveal details to me during make up sex of how they fucked her, I was instantly hooked, it was all her fault.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by Gentleman4U » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:15 pm

I never concerned myself with thoughts whether my women cheat on me or not.
When I was younger satisfying married women was all I was doing for many years.
I never concerned myself with thoughts whether it was a good or bad thing to do either.
Neither was I looking for these types of women specifically. Somehow they showed up themselves.
All I really feared was to leave a woman unsatisfied and cared less about anything else.
Some husbands tried to threaten me, but I am not very easy to threaten.
Those with brains quietly pretended they didn't know about it.
Now that I am more or less settled down - I never think whether my woman will have a Man or a Woman while I am away. It is up to her. I do ensure that she is properly fucked, licked, massaged and orgasmed as much as possible and that she gets to show off her voluptuous figure in restaurants and clubs with me. I like the attention she gets and with my history I know which guys react to her.
However, I don't want to push her into anything she doesn't want to do. At the same time if she decides to do it - God bless - I want to learn from the best to be the best.
Just has to be open about it. My woman knows that if she wants to fuck my ass - I will bend over and vice versa. I love it, she loves it, if she decides to share her body with another man we'll all love it. It will not be cheating to me.
I am no expert in sexual relationships and very new to this hot community. May be that is why I don't get the concept of cheating. If a woman uses a man - this is a very natural and beautiful act of nature that shouldn't be labeled as cheating.
I am looking at the results of the poll and find it very strange that so many guys here came to this pleasurable lifestyle through pain rather than naturally. But at the end - the path that each member of this community took to get to this lifestyle doesn't matter. it is a great place to be and it doesn't matter what caused one to realize it. I am extremely happy to join this forum and discovering so many hot couples issue their hot stories and pictures is an absolute blast!
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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by hapycpl » Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:17 am

When we were dating, I caught my wife starting to get involved with someone she met through work. At first i was mad about it and she disconnected with him and nothing really had ever happened between them. A year or two after that I started to have very positive sexual feelings about the potential of her being with other men and was turned on by the thought of it. I always carried the question of "What if I would have found out secretly that things were brewing but let it continue?" I never thought at that time she would be into it. Honestly she was not ready for it at that point.

I continued to have thoughts and fantasies about it until last year when she came to me saying that there was a guy at work that was hitting on her. She had gone a bit further with him than she initially let on (made out in a parking lot) but in the end it kicked off what has been a pretty incredible year!

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by Rob027 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:27 pm

Yup -- cheated on by the majority of girlfriends since high school, my first wife (she never admitted it but 99.9% sure) and my wife before and since we were married. Guess I've got a type? :lol: I really, REALLY wish I had been in an emotional place where I could have enjoyed all of that erotic energy when it happened...

That brings me to the "chicken or egg"/nature vs. nurture question: Am I just attracted to women who are likely to cheat, or did I learn that cheating is a part of romantic love/relationships as some kind of coping mechanism because I just happened to primarily date cheaters?

I've also been with married lady friends on the sly, so I think I am just turned on by infidelity in general. Perhaps adolescent exposure to one too many "Red Shoe Diaries" episodes that revolved around cheating (didn't they all)?

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by SeaGirtCuck » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:36 am

It turned out I was wrong.
My first wife regularly cheated on me.
I found out years later.
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Monolithic wrote:
No, my partners have always been faithful.
I don't get it. How can anyone definitively know this? It's unknowable!
You are right there is no way anyone could, "definitively know this."
All it could ever be is the person's impression and nothing more.

I also choose, my partners, "have always been faithful", as my answer because as far as I know that is the truth.
Could I be wrong?
Of course I could be.
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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by calicolombia69 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:35 pm

Puro-chile wrote:My ex didn't cheat while we were married, she did fess up about going out with her ex-bfs while going out with me (dating). Current wife lied about her escapades, I found out, she fessed up about one, not the other two. Nevertheless, she's a hotwife now.
So did mine. I played dumb but did suspect. Especially since she openly and proudly admitted she was a slut and was making up for lost time.

However, after reading many similar posts, I believe it is one of the pillars of hotwifing. Be prepared to be burned by the dragon's flame as you attempt to tame it and train it. The difference is that in our case, we dont dump them for it; we but them a ring!

Mine is from Colombia...

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by ErikaPeter » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:31 am

It was not the best way to join this lifestyle, but I did have a couple of affairs that my husband later discovered. I had picked up vibes from him that he subconsciously wanted me to take a boyfriend, and in retrospect my intuition was correct. However, we should have talked openly about it beforehand, and avoided deception and feelings of guilt. Nevertheless, we overcame these bumps and did eventually embrace the lifestyle.
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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by isinlarsa » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:39 am

My first wife and I had swapped with another couple, so it wasn't her first extramarital cock; but she then cheated with a co-worker. She never could keep a secret, so she told me after several months. I found I was turned on by her behavior and ended up encouraging her to continue the affair.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by knight4princess » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:47 pm

Add me to those who have been cheated on throughout my relationships.

I've been married almost 34 years but my HW cheated on me at least once and I did find out about it. We re-started our relationship after going back to being "just friends" for about six months, and we married a year after that. We had a pretty vanilla marriage for the first 12 years or so, then we got into the swing lifestyle and MFM experiences. Boyfriends for her even.

The thing is that I had three other year-long serious relationships before my wife. And all three of these very young women cheated on me. Even as my first high school girlfriend cheated on me, dumped me and went on to fuck just about every guy in our small-town high school, I was alternately enraged and turned on by it!

But I really never wanted any of them to cheat. I don't mind the arrangement my wife and I now have though!

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by mfmfantasy50 » Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:59 pm

All my wives and girlfriends have cheated on me...

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by Old Cuck » Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:37 am

My wife cheated on me before we began cuckolding. We did a bit of swinging and she did not handle me having sex with someone else so she says she had an affair to get me back. To get even I had found a fuck buddy for a while but I soon realised that I preferred her to do the fucking and for me to watch of wait. That was more than 20 years ago and very childish of us too, but since then I have been the real cuckold.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by Wls77 » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:53 am

For me, and its been discussed on other threads on this site - the major turn on IS cheating. Whilst i find the mutual/agreed cuckolding/hotwifing titillating as well, there’s something about the illicit nature of cheating that excites me way more.

In terms of context of this thread, i had two previous girlfriends cheat on me, and both were a huge turn on at the time, and pretty much took over my masturbationary fantasy from my term years.

Once i met my wife i fantasised about her cheating for years, but she seemed to stay faithful for a long time (albeit with how things transpired that not be the case)

Anyway, short version of the story, almost 3 years ago i started to pick up on slightly suspsicious behaviour and once my spidey senses were switched on, it became very easy to detect the cheating. The affair went on for over two years - albeit half that time was in lockdown due to covid, so they effectively were on pause - without her knowing that i knew.

The whole time was very exciting, piecing together bits of information, it was mindblowing seeing her getting ready to go out when i knew it was almost certain what she was up to. (I had by this point picked up on a huge ‘tell’ which remained consistent throughout)

Anyway, skip to the end, and she eventually fucked up and sent me a message meant for him that she just couldnt explain away and i couldnt pretend to ignore. Unfortunately things detoriatated massively once it was out in the open, and i encouraged her to continue the affair.

But those couple of years where she didnt know i was aware - hot as hell.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by gruenberg » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:52 am

in high school i meet a beautiful girl, we were madly in love, real high school sweethearts. Innocent like every teenagers could be past than. we were part of a small group of popular kids and had the fun of our teenage lifes. we were the first for each other and after graduation we moved to the same city for university. We decided not to move together, so my girlfriend moved in with her older sister and i found a room in a flat with two other boys who studied the same like me.
my girlfriend and i meet a few nights per week and also spend some nights at the others room, and everthing was fine. until one afternoon.
it was a early summer afternoon, the tempreture was fine and i decided to skip my lessons and surprise my girlfriend to bike to the lake nearby. something we often did. well, i knew that she had no lessons at this afternoon, so i went to her flat. i let myself in and entering i heard the misunderstandig sound of some really heavy sex. at first i thought it was the sister of my girlfriend but as i watched around the corner of the livingroom door i say my beloved girlfriend hangig over the couch getting it from behind. she was screaming in delight. my heart sank to my bottom, i was devasted. i stood there for hours (it felt that way), but of course it was only seconds till i got recognised. it was my girlfriend who saw me first. the look on her face was "shit". the dude banging her did see me too, but that asshole didn*t stop. he just went on, though my girlfriend want to get away from him.
i didn´t know what happened next, but we separeted the next day. i learned that she was seeing this guy a few weeks, she wasn`t in love with him, it was just sex, but i was devasted and heart and didn´t wanted to see her any further.

it took a time for me to feel better back than, and soon afterwards i found myself enjoy student life. i was told a few times that i am not bad looking, and being humorous it was rather easy for me to meet girls so i had a really good time. there were alot o student parties and i wanted to forget this bad experience with my exgirlfriend. thatswhy i wasn´t interested in a relationship, i had a lot of one nights stands. i was still hurt and didn`t believe in love and whenever a girl wanted more i found a way to excuse myself.

well, than my life changed another time. at one of this parties, i meet this beautiful, smart, funny girl, let`s call her I. my modus operandi at this parties in these days was to meet a girl, bring her home to my flat, have sex with her, and move on. that was also the plan for this party, but meeting I. was different.
we talked for hours, about politics, about bands we like, and don`t like, about silly stuff, about student life in general and ours in special. and we didn`t have sex. we didn`t have sex because it was different for me. not that i was not attracted to her. like i mentioned already, she was beautiful and sexy. but she was also special and not easy. and, she had a boyfriend.
we meet a few days later for coffee and talked again for hours. i learned a lot form her life, she lost her mother when she was very young. grew up with her little sister and brother and her father did everything to make them a normal family life. we often met again, but only as friends. being with I. felt so good, but i didn`t wanted to fall in love. i did everything to deny it. until my bestfriend talked to me on a drunk evening. he pointed out the obviously. but I. still had a boyfriend.
to deny it even more i still met some girls for casual sex and I. still told my about her life with her boyfriend. then, one evening, she was at my flat and we were drinking a little bit, i confessed to her that she was special to me and i want her more in my life. i guess it was akward. really bad ass akward.
but it was also successful. maybe i was talking so much bullshit she couldn´t stand it anymore, but she kissed me. a soft kiss. then a little bit more erotic. but we didn`t had sex this evening. she told me, that she wanted to quit her relationship first. she wanted to talk to her soon-to-be-ex-boyfriend (i called him this for my one, that would have never been her words). she did the next day and the next weekend she came over and stayed at my flat for the first time as my girlfriend.

after graduation we were starting our professional life. I. worked as a lawyer and i worked as an engineer. the first years were tough, but soon we both earned a little more and we wanted to start a family. and we tried. and tried, but it didn`t work. we went to doctors, everything was fine with us, but it didn`t work. we were young, so we had no problem, maybe we have just wait. it meant to have sex, a lot of sex, it could have beent worse.

I. worked for a small law firm owned by a man in his late 40, early 50. he was well known in our community as being a philanthropist, wealthy guy, being involved in local politics. he isn`t what you call good looking, but always well dressed, driving expensive cars and has this aura of a successful man. he isn`t married but has everytime yound good looking women by his side.
I.s job meant for her to travel sometimes with her boss abroad. i also spend a few days a month somewhere else and after one of my business trips my life changed another time.

her job meant also, that she had to travel around, sometimes for a night or two. For me it was the same and i had this job related trip for two nights. the days prior to my trip, ma wife was very tense. something i didn`t knew from her. i had this really tough trip in front of me and first understood the situation not proper. after i came home, it was in the evening, as soon, as i entered the house, i knew there was a big problem.
the house was dark, but i knew my wife was at home, because her car was in the driveway. i called for her, but didn`t got an answer. then i found her,
she was crumbled up the couch, only a small lamp was on, and obviously crying. i got to her and asked what was up. she just started more crying and sobbing. during her sobbing she told me, that she was pregnant.
at first, i didn´t realised what the problem was. we wanted to get a child. then it hit me like a wrecking ball. she told me, the child isn`t from me.
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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by trecital » Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:11 am

My wife wasn't the first individual in our marriage to cheat.

I was at it even before we were married.

We were both virgins when we met and became a couple. But I wanted experiences with other women, and gave in to temptation very easily. I cheated on her within weeks of our first fuck.

To my knowledge she didn't cheat on me for the first 14 years, whereas I'd had a number of 'encounters'. I kept things secret, but she did have suspiscions. And I'm pretty sure that it helped her to succumb to temptation eventually.
And I'm glad she did. It diminished my guilt somewhat. Plus it opened up a whole new chapter in our relationship.
Strangely she never wanted to question me about my infidelity.....maybe a case of 'see no evil, hear no evil'.

But, as soon as I discovered her infidelity, I wanted to know all about it, and include him in our sex life.
What I didn't anticipate, was that my desire for some threesome fun would soon turn to me getting a massive kick from being a cuckold. And that I would stop my own cheating ways.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by bjgirl » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:52 am

My wife (at the time she was my girlfriend) cheated on me with a coworker - she gave him a blow job and he was the first guy she ever swallowed for. We had roleplayed the idea of her having sex alone with another guy or in front of me and she often used him in the scenarios. One day the timing was right and it "just happened" in her words.
She did it without my consent or knowledge and told me about it a few days later so it was technically cheating BUT we were working up to the idea of her doing it anyways...
From there we had a few rough weeks but eventually we realized we were both turned on by it, I proposed to her a few months later and now 20+ years later we are still happily married and enjoying the lifestyle.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by Caribwaters » Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:49 am

We met in our first years in high school, but her parents found out and broke us up, as "we were too young". We reconnected 2 years later when I was a senior and she was a junior. In the period we were apart, I was involved with a "girl" who was more than 2 years older and had some experience with boys. The relationship lasted about 15 months and I "learned" a few things from her. Mean while she only went to a dance with a neighborhood boy and they just kissed at the door.

We dated exclusively for the next 4+ years and neither of us cheated. One of my best friends from college called her and asked her out when I was away a boot camp. Her mother encouraged her to go out with this guy to see what a date with another young man might be like, but she proved to be too faithful to me to accept the offer. She told about him hitting on her for a date and she never accepted. The idea of her being with another guy resulted in my getting very excited every trime it played thru my mind. I never said anything to my "friend", but he distanced himself from our relationship. I always thought my gf might have warned him that she told me.

We married, had children and then she got involved with her married boss at work. I could see use that something was going on, though she repeatedly denied it. For over 2 moths she repeatedly lied to me and many of her answers just didn't fit to my questions. Eventually the pressure got to new too much for her and she admitted that she was having sex with him at their office after they closed for the day. My first instinct was to make her quite her job, but as she explained he was paying her too much and after the affair started, added cash each week to her pay envelope, so the other girl in their office who was paid the same would not know. Financially, at that time things were really tight for us.

We discussed it repeatedly and reached an agreement that she could stay employed and enjoy his "special attention", as long as she told me the details of each occasion they had sex. They became more public, going out to nice restraints and then to motels, until one one evening his wife caught them. That ended her employment, but started us down the road of cuckholdery.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by troilusand » Sun Jul 02, 2023 3:02 pm

Whew! "Added cash each week to her pay envelope"...Both a cheating slut AND a whore!! :shock:

JACKPOT! :lol:

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by Itman » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:22 pm

Latido wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:22 am
Yes, I was cheated on in my very first relationship, long before beginning this lifestyle. ....
As for you. My wife cheated on me, on three occasions, in the first two years as fiancée about 15 years ago. I found out 5 years ago when it was clear by then that I wanted a cuckold experience. Her mind had repressed everything out of guilt. Had it not been for my questions it remained only a fuzzy memory of the past.

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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by Reno1 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:11 pm

This is my true story, not a fantasy. I was a senior in high school and dating a younger high school girl.
We were both virgins but I knew nothing about sex, she ran with a faster and wilder group of girls. I was hoping that we could have sex and that I would do OK. We talked about getting married.
I set up a date in an abandoned place near my house, I tried and failed to penetrate her, I was nervous and soft and never got in.
She went out with a girlfriend after that and they were picked up by two guys. The one with my fiancée got her drunk, stripped her, popped her cherry and filled her with baby batter twice. He was rough, sexual, horny and hard. He pumped her twice and then told her his friends would fuck her too.
She confessed this all to me over the phone after the weekend. I hung up, humiliated and shattered.
Then I realized it turned me on. After that she tested pregnant and we got married, I think the baby is mine but I can’t really tell for sure.
After we were married I started talking about what she did with him durning sex, it made us both super horny.
Then after our next baby was born, she confessed that she had been fucking two other guys. It made us both extremely horny and we had hot sex while she told me about it. Then I could finally tell her what a super hot turn on it was for me. Then she started going out and fucking other guys, while I waited at home.
So I wasn’t brave or clever, I just told her that if there was a guy she wanted to fuck it would turn me on. If you ever get a chance to give your wife permission to fuck other men, give it. Most women will do it, even if they say they don’t want to at first. It’s the same with male friends that you suggest should try to seduce your wife, it’s ok with you. They all say no at first, but they all come around after the initial surprise is over. I suggest married men.
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Re: Cheated on before beginning this?

Unread post by SoBayCuck » Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:28 am

A previous relationship ended because my girlfriend was cheating on me. That was some 8 yrs before I even new what cuckolding was. When I discovered the kink and started entertaining the idea with my fiancé I’ll admit my previous experience surely strengthened the idea that being a cuckold could be a good thing. It’s a way of taking back control over something I didn’t have control of before. If I’m enjoying the non-monogamy and she has consent, then there’s really no reason to cheat right? Wife is no longer active but knowing that if she cheated even without my consent that I would be aroused more than being hurt is prob one of the reasons I continue to fantasize and indulge this kink. If I had only been into it 8 yrs earlier I prob could have had a lot more fun with my ex. I recall finding a text from the guy she was cheating with saying “ I miss your lips wrapped around my cock” and being both enraged and hurt but then slightly aroused at the same time. Now if I found a text like that I would be excited and happy and jerk off to it every day.

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