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Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:06 pm 
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I was doing some thinking in regards to the overwhelming posts that I have seen where you either have the bull/hot-wife saying that someone is not worthy or there is a cheating aspect.

What about the fact that one could have a loving relationship while still taking a cuckolding angle.

For example, when I look at the kinky polls recently where there is a husband going down on the bull while she is kissing or even making love to him, why any demeaning talk at all? Why not encouragement and just simply being?

If your wife likes you to suck and lick while she is having sex, isn't the encouragement of saying that is what you like, or even the unspoken words "humiliation" enough?

In my example of having a small dick. Sometimes the biggest turn off for me is talking about the big dick in a way that sounds fake where one says "you dick is small and pathetic" vs the simple truth that his dick is bigger and it doesn't need to be said at all.

It is hard to place all this into a post, but I guess my fascination is having something all out in the open an honest. When my wife has spoken about things that she likes vs she likes it "better" it makes me more turned on and keeps the humiliation back in my court. Even when she speaks about her boyfriend, I have a few times talked about that I was crazy for "letting" her do this. She says "uh huh, but lucky for me you do because we don't have sex much and I need it bad all the time". She talks about his perfect dick and how the head on mine is a little uncomfortable because she is used to his more, but how it is a win win situation because she likes doing it with him so much.

Why this turns me on more is a mystery, but her matter of fact way is exactly what I speak of. It is much more than a "you are pathetic" mentality. The "you are pathetic" is played out much better in say a situation like this. One time I was having sex with my wife, and I have trouble keeping it hard. I still like it, but I just can't last. She reached down and pulled it out just like that. She kissed me deep and just kept going. She said she likes it better when I just play with myself and shouldn't be too long in there and it doesn't feel as good some times. I came so damn hard, and yet it was never repeated for a long time.


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Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:44 pm 
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Actually, there is a lot here I can relate to. I think for me, there is an element of humiliation in knowing she enjoys bigger cocks. I don't need to be put down as an insult, but the reality of it is the turn on for me. Simply the fact that she has had boyfriends before me that she has fucked and enjoyed how big and long lasting they were is a major turn on to me. I could handle the "I love you, but enjoy sex with him more" angle much more that the sense of repulsion that some people express turns them on. For me, it has to be real and authentic and not forced, or else it would be a complete turn-off.


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Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:13 pm 
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I think in all this, it isn't the little things, but the honesty. In many ways it is why adult films were never taken as seriously as they could be taken in the golden age. The one fact that stood out more than any other, how can you take any sex act seriously that has a person leaning back and doing a cum shot all over someone's face?

That is the idea for the "you are pathetic" angle. I am sure it could be said in an authentic way in the right circumstances, but every time? Sooner or later it will ring false. The instance of loving me or enjoying sex with him more is not a set thing. It is dynamic and there are moods and situations where while I remember the one instance (and that does stick with me), it one piece to a greater whole.


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Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:58 pm 
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This is why this site is so important. Read enough here and you'll find many different angles about a husband sharing a wife. You can play many roles without making them take over your life or take them too seriously.

The Porn market either caters to, or creates new sub sets of interest. They certainly evolve over time. Right now there is a glut of Cuckold/submission/humiliation websites, how toos, and pro porn. Numerous cuckold caption tumblrs of varying degrees of this. Some of it is just boring, some annoying. Sifting through the noise is the challenge.

Chalk it up to poor acting and writing. Reality is far more intense than the made up stuff.


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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:18 am 
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Agreed. A wife doesn't need to spell it out. If you can't compete with your wife's lover, you already know it. It doesn't have to be a fake scenario were the fetish is enforced and played, it can just be real and that's so much more intense.


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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:20 am 
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My perceptive is that as a loving couple, best friends and open to discuss all things sexual she knows I like humiliation to a degree, but as I am normally a strong man outside of our sex like she is keen thankfully not to go over board with this. She respects me and that I allow her to have lovers, something few women get and she would never do anything that caused me real personal discomfort, it appears to me that sexual "humiliation" can often really mean bitterness and gives one partner in the relationship an opportunity to belittle, humiliate the other under the umbrella of a sexual act.

Some of the things I've seen and read make me wonder is there actually love in this relationship?

We both accept that I am not as good as her lovers are at pleasuring her, I have remained faithful to her, my choice, she is the one that has been allowed to gain experience and explore and expand her sexuality in doing so we both know I couldn't as a husband keep up with them or indeed take her to such heights sexually.

Then there is the obvious one that another males touch is different to mine and that in itself is a turn on for her so immediately she reaches a height I cant take her to. I don't see this as humiliating but draw immense enjoyment that it turns me on and I have the strength to allow her these experiences.

Sorry think I wander off on this one!


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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:43 am 
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Have you guys noticed that a lot of the "hot" stories here are the ones that lay out the scenario (in detail) and just go with the natural enjoyment of the wife explaining exactly what is happening.

I remember reading a particular one where the man was saying she denied him sex. The part that got me turned on is not that she came out and said it, but it was so matter of fact where she just simply told him that this wasn't for you and only for her lover (and not calling him that, but just his name) and that is what their relationship has became. She encouraged him in a very sweet way that he could finish while she masturbated him as a favor. Again, all this was not called that, it just happened.

When I was describing mainstream porn, it was in the way of how there is a great plot, even great acting, and then came the sex scene which is often red hot in vintage because they are shorter, more believable and not necessarily all holes filled. Then of course comes the money shot. The best, don't focus on that. The best just let it happen quick and move on and it doesn't have to be in someone's face/hair etc. New porn is just stupid in most cases, which is why people often run to amateur which too often also goes into the mechanical new porn aspect.

That is what I see with any "humiliation" or cuckold, or any kind of thing that I am speaking of. Dwelling in any way (which is artificial put down to the point of exhaustion) takes away from the naturalness of the scenario. That is what makes it hard to believe and less exciting. I wish I could explain it better, but in some ways, reality may not always be better than a well made porn because ultimately if you have an actor or actress that is good at what they do, they can and do make you believe in that world. Of course sustaining for 1.5 hours or so is another thing all together, which pushes that reality to just a couple of scenes.

Of course on another subject, there is also a "cheating" aspect that takes on a new kind of role where I have the conundrum of my wife lying and doing what they want without sacrificing trust. Communication is key, but then what is that when you actually get off on the deception.


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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:01 pm 
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I certainly am in agreement that subtle or matter of fact is much more real and can be more intense then the often ridiculous scenarios seen in professional porn.

I think it shows that the majority of professional porn producers and directors don't understand fetish. They get the big tag items but distort it so much that it just comes across as crazy. Particularly this fetish. You have to care about the person who is cuckolding you, don't you? How long could you care about someone who is abjectly ridiculing you in front of other men or women? For this reason I have only seen a couple of pro cuckold clips and other than some pretty hot women in them they have offered me absolutely nothing. Maybe there are some good ones out there but I have yet to see any.

Now people into this fetish appreciate varying degrees of submission and humiliation. But are there any who actually want a real life version of a pro p*** cuckold film? Even if you want a heavy dose of submission do you really want that type of behavior directed at you?

There was some clip I saw that had a real couple with a bull and the bull asks the wife who is bigger and who is better in bed. She is being taken from behind when he asked her and she softly moans that he is bigger and better. That may be too much for many people in this forum but when I watched that short clip it just sounded very intense, very heartfelt and I am sure a fairly big dose of angst for the husband.


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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:05 pm 
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trdd wrote:
There was some clip I saw that had a real couple with a bull and the bull asks the wife who is bigger and who is better in bed. She is being taken from behind when he asked her and she softly moans that he is bigger and better. That may be too much for many people in this forum but when I watched that short clip it just sounded very intense, very heartfelt and I am sure a fairly big dose of angst for the husband.


Do you remember where you saw that clip at?


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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:24 pm 
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I am thankful for this site in the way it discusses the complexity of this lifestyle. I am a cuckold, submissive, cocksucker, etc, etc. The love of my life and I experienced this lifestyle and it was incredible. The major difficulty was Her not wanting to hurt me. How beautiful is that? She was an incredibly hot wife but as She got more into making love to a stud. Not just fucking but making love to a man with a bigger cock, she was concerned with my emotions. How loving is that? This totally Alpha Female was fucking and making love to Brian and Her concern was my feelings. I was the one who suggested this to her, the one who contacted Brian, the one who bought Her the sandals and lingerie to Love him n, the one who drove Her there. Yet Her concern was not to hurt Her husband.
Beautiful marriage! Over time Goddess would tell me to come over to where they made out and loved, suck his powerful cock, lick his balls....only after She realized it turned me on too. Any OMG did it turn on Goddess to make me Her cocksucker and cu cleaner> I lived in paradise.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:52 am 
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yeah, the first thing you need to do, and most people with an interest in this lifestyle, is to go easy on the cuckold porn. So very few cuck husbands actually go all in for the total humilation/chastity/castration (you get the point). Cuckold play, in the majority of cases, involve a wide variety of cuck play styles - verbal play (positive and negative), watching, listening, solo dating... up to and including things like denial, bedroom control, chastity, etc.

The thing about good cuck play... is that what the third/bull can do is good and intense and (usually) pretty obvious. But what the wife can do with a few words... or a look. THAT'S cuck play done well, when your third/bull gets your wife to embrace the empowerment of her role in giving the husband pleasure.

Many of the cuck husbands I have met enjoy and love the positive play... because doesn't like hearing/seeing that their wife is a gorgeous, sexy woman who can satisfy any man? It's part of what turns the husband on, seeing his wife as a desirable, sexy woman who takes pleasure as she wants.

So please, don't think that negative cuck play and humiliation is all there is... you'd be missing a whole lot of pleasure.


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Unread postPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:25 pm 
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lovetowonder wrote:
I was doing some thinking in regards to the overwhelming posts that I have seen where you either have the bull/hot-wife saying that someone is not worthy or there is a cheating aspect.

What about the fact that one could have a loving relationship while still taking a cuckolding angle.

For example, when I look at the kinky polls recently where there is a husband going down on the bull while she is kissing or even making love to him, why any demeaning talk at all? Why not encouragement and just simply being?

If your wife likes you to suck and lick while she is having sex, isn't the encouragement of saying that is what you like, or even the unspoken words "humiliation" enough?

In my example of having a small dick. Sometimes the biggest turn off for me is talking about the big dick in a way that sounds fake where one says "you dick is small and pathetic" vs the simple truth that his dick is bigger and it doesn't need to be said at all.

It is hard to place all this into a post, but I guess my fascination is having something all out in the open an honest. When my wife has spoken about things that she likes vs she likes it "better" it makes me more turned on and keeps the humiliation back in my court. Even when she speaks about her boyfriend, I have a few times talked about that I was crazy for "letting" her do this. She says "uh huh, but lucky for me you do because we don't have sex much and I need it bad all the time". She talks about his perfect dick and how the head on mine is a little uncomfortable because she is used to his more, but how it is a win win situation because she likes doing it with him so much.

Why this turns me on more is a mystery, but her matter of fact way is exactly what I speak of. It is much more than a "you are pathetic" mentality. The "you are pathetic" is played out much better in say a situation like this. One time I was having sex with my wife, and I have trouble keeping it hard. I still like it, but I just can't last. She reached down and pulled it out just like that. She kissed me deep and just kept going. She said she likes it better when I just play with myself and shouldn't be too long in there and it doesn't feel as good some times. I came so damn hard, and yet it was never repeated for a long time.

It's really hot for me when she pulls away and says it doesn't feel good to her. Then she can either tell me to masturbate to completion or wrap it up and no cum. However, once she gets turned on she needs to keep going until orgasm and she prefers to do that with a dick in her pussy, even my small one that she can't feel in combination with a finger or two. Yes, humiliation by action is hotter than verbal "you're pathetic" that isn't tied to meaningful personal details.

After she cums, she likes to make me cum by fucking or hand job. I don't last long so that's easy to do. But it'd be more meaningful if she showed her dominance and ignore me after she cums.


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Unread postPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:48 pm 
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We are on the same page for sure. Sonetimes the description of what turns on my wife is enough. Her doing it in front of friends and family is like that pandoras box I can't resist.


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Unread postPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 5:29 am 
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For me there is no real humiliation in being told I'm pathetic or inadequate. That isn't true. I am well-endowed and the few other women I have had sex with have been very happy with the experience. It's just that my wife and I are incompatible. We both find our pleasure in the pleasure we give the other. Something had to give and it was the conversion of her cheating into cuckolding, which suits us both and is sustainable.

The humiliation for me is indirect, mostly. Her making me clean his come from her pussy and eat it because that will give him pleasure when she tells him I did it; making me buy condoms for them and then not using them; her never telling her men my name, just referring to me as "hubby" or "cucky"; making the first moves - kissing, groping etc - in front of me and in public (especially in front of friends) and in her choices of men, some of whom I dislike. This last adds considerable intensity for her and him. Knowing that I don't like the guy but still I eat his cum and facilitate his fucking my wife emphasises the power imbalance that underpins humiliation.

One other important humiliation is that I am restricted to missionary position "lovemaking" while her men get pretty much whatever perverted fantasy they wish from her. So far her only limits with others have been scat and pain.


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Unread postPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:57 am 
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We don't do humiliation, not really on purpose/cheesy nasty stuff anyway. Obviously cuckolding itself is a form of humiliation, when she talks about lovers it can be humiliating but she isn't into the nasty stuff. And as I don't watch or take part I don't cop anything from her lovers either. It is mostly quite loving even though it is a Female Led Relationship and she calls the shots.


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Unread postPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:58 am 
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tractorman2 wrote:
My perceptive is that as a loving couple, best friends and open to discuss all things sexual she knows I like humiliation to a degree, but as I am normally a strong man outside of our sex like she is keen thankfully not to go over board with this. She respects me and that I allow her to have lovers, something few women get and she would never do anything that caused me real personal discomfort, it appears to me that sexual "humiliation" can often really mean bitterness and gives one partner in the relationship an opportunity to belittle, humiliate the other under the umbrella of a sexual act.

Some of the things I've seen and read make me wonder is there actually love in this relationship?

We both accept that I am not as good as her lovers are at pleasuring her, I have remained faithful to her, my choice, she is the one that has been allowed to gain experience and explore and expand her sexuality in doing so we both know I couldn't as a husband keep up with them or indeed take her to such heights sexually.

Then there is the obvious one that another males touch is different to mine and that in itself is a turn on for her so immediately she reaches a height I cant take her to. I don't see this as humiliating but draw immense enjoyment that it turns me on and I have the strength to allow her these experiences.

Sorry think I wander off on this one!


I've noticed before that you way of "wandering" is usually right on point.....with me anyhow. I don't think the extreme stuff is even real in most cases. I do think there are guys who wish it were.


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Unread postPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:08 am 
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respectabullinma wrote:
yeah, the first thing you need to do, and most people with an interest in this lifestyle, is to go easy on the cuckold porn. So very few cuck husbands actually go all in for the total humilation/chastity/castration (you get the point). Cuckold play, in the majority of cases, involve a wide variety of cuck play styles - verbal play (positive and negative), watching, listening, solo dating... up to and including things like denial, bedroom control, chastity, etc.

The thing about good cuck play... is that what the third/bull can do is good and intense and (usually) pretty obvious. But what the wife can do with a few words... or a look. THAT'S cuck play done well, when your third/bull gets your wife to embrace the empowerment of her role in giving the husband pleasure.

Many of the cuck husbands I have met enjoy and love the positive play... because doesn't like hearing/seeing that their wife is a gorgeous, sexy woman who can satisfy any man? It's part of what turns the husband on, seeing his wife as a desirable, sexy woman who takes pleasure as she wants.

So please, don't think that negative cuck play and humiliation is all there is... you'd be missing a whole lot of pleasure.


Thanks for bringing the sanity, as usual. :up: so refreshing!


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Unread postPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 1:57 pm 
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My wife has never been the kind of woman who would enjoy humiliating me, or anyone else for that matter. That said, she can be brutally honest at times and when I first discovered her cheating, she confessed that she wasn't satisfied with our sex life. Although humiliating to hear at the time, she explained it in such a way that I didn't take offence and I was soon begging for details as to what made these other guys better than me at meeting her needs.

Over time, my wife has become very comfortable in sharing all the naughty details of what other men can do to, and for, her and I anxiously wait for her to return from her dates to hear all about it. It's humiliating to some degree to know that one's wife gets better sex from other men, but when she tells me all about it, she's not trying to hurt me. Instead, she's merely letting me vicariously participate in her affairs.


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Unread postPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:55 pm 
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acquiescence wrote:
For me, it has to be real and authentic and not forced, or else it would be a complete turn-off.


Same here. If my wife put on a big show of humiliating me, it would be a huge turn-off for me. Luckily, that's not the kind of person she is at all. She's very straightforward with me, and that's more than enough.


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Unread postPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:50 pm 
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Wooster wrote:
acquiescence wrote:
For me, it has to be real and authentic and not forced, or else it would be a complete turn-off.


Same here. If my wife put on a big show of humiliating me, it would be a huge turn-off for me. Luckily, that's not the kind of person she is at all. She's very straightforward with me, and that's more than enough.


Whether it be humiliation or not I hate the fake smutty talk. I used to frequent brothels and strip clubs and the shit the women would come out with would make my eyes glaze over.

When I met my girlfriend the one thing I wanted more than anything when we chatted about our limits was that she only sees others when it suits her. I didn't want her feeling pressured or like she had to entertain me. Given I don't watch she could have made up anything anyway but I didn't want her to feel like she had to do either.


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Unread postPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:17 am 
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wifedateshubwaits wrote:
she's merely letting me vicariously participate in her affairs.


This is exactly what I enjoy the most about being a cuckold.


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Unread postPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:31 am 
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I know exactly what you mean. I do not want to be humiliated by being told negative things about myself. Instead, I long to hear how great Tom is in bed and how much pleasure Joyce gets when she goes out on a date with him.


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Unread postPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 9:05 am 
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lovetowonder wrote:
One time I was having sex with my wife, and I have trouble keeping it hard. I still like it, but I just can't last. She reached down and pulled it out just like that. She kissed me deep and just kept going. She said she likes it better when I just play with myself and shouldn't be too long in there and it doesn't feel as good some times. I came so damn hard, and yet it was never repeated for a long time.


Haha, that is so familiar!

New Year's morning. I woke up and noticed that my wife was already awake. I kissed her and then some more, and I touched her down below. To my surprise, she was wonderfully wet. She rarely got wet anymore. Not for me anyway.

In fact, we had our 'talk' just two months earlier and agreed to not having penetrative sex for the time being. However, this being a new day in a new year, I figured that there was a time to play games and a time to act normal.

I rolled on top of her.
She let me enter her.
But as soon as I felt her warmth I was already on the edge.
Damn!
I tried to recollect my strength.
To no avail.
One wrong movement and I would ejaculate.
That was a BIG no-no.

I will never forget feeling her hand, gently pushing against my shoulder.

She didn't say a thing but I immediately realised what she wanted.
And I knew she was right.

I pulled out and quickly masturbated until I came on her pussy (and not in her).

When I rolled of her and she wiped my sperm off her crotch, she looked at me.
"I hope you are not angry with me for stopping you."
"No" I apologised to her. "I thought you wanted it" I said. "You were so wet."
"Yes" she replied "but that was because I fingered myself when you were still sleeping. I was wet for someone else."

I swear that I didn't think about that.

"But you let me inside you" I muttered.
"I wanted to see if you could do it but you couldn't.
It didn't do it for me so, I didn't want you inside me."

...

Iyah...


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Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:54 am 
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lovetowonder wrote:
One time I was having sex with my wife, and I have trouble keeping it hard. I still like it, but I just can't last. She reached down and pulled it out just like that. She kissed me deep and just kept going. She said she likes it better when I just play with myself and shouldn't be too long in there and it doesn't feel as good some times. I came so damn hard, and yet it was never repeated for a long time.


Haha, that is so familiar!

New Year's morning. I woke up and noticed that my wife was already awake. I kissed her and then some more, and I touched her down below. To my surprise, she was wonderfully wet. She rarely got wet anymore. Not for me anyway.

In fact, we had our 'talk' just two months earlier and agreed to not having penetrative sex for the time being. However, this being a new day in a new year, I figured that there was a time to play games and a time to act normal.

I rolled on top of her.
She let me enter her.
But as soon as I felt her warmth I was already on the edge.
Damn!
I tried to recollect my strength.
To no avail.
One wrong movement and I would ejaculate.
That was a BIG no-no.

I will never forget feeling her hand, gently pushing against my shoulder.

She didn't say a thing but I immediately realised what she wanted.
And I knew she was right.

I pulled out and quickly masturbated until I came on her pussy (and not in her).

When I rolled of her and she wiped my sperm off her crotch, she looked at me.
"I hope you are not angry with me for stopping you."
"No" I apologised to her. "I thought you wanted it" I said. "You were so wet."
"Yes" she replied "but that was because I fingered myself when you were still sleeping. I was wet for someone else."

I swear that I didn't think about that.

"But you let me inside you" I muttered.
"I wanted to see if you could do it but you couldn't.
It didn't do it for me so, I didn't want you inside me."

...

Iyah...


That is super hot!

My wife and I have been going through a little spruce up. We were talking about her spending the night with her boyfriend. She has only done this a couple of times, but because of work and timing it doesn't really happen. We have also been talking about her upping the talk with him about how much I think of them together. I do masturbate constantly, yet I have never seen them together! The smell of her after she comes home is so erotic. She will often see him after he hasn't even showered from work. She loves his smell of him, and will come home talking about all the details. It is such a turn on, yet it isn't really talked about in the most strict sense that I am kissing a mouth that has been all over his dick!

Lately I have been in a bit of a depression of a personal matter, but now that I am getting back into this again (she has never stopped seeing him, which I have always been fine with) she as my loving wife has got all excited again. Her flustered horny way says "not a problem!".


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Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:28 pm 
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Well the plot thickens.

I was supposed to get an update if she was spending the night. I have not heard a thing! Starting to get a little worried. The last I heard as the she would let me know.

On the flip side I just discovered that her toothbrush and various things are missing that she wouldn't go without. I am thinking she jumped big time at this chance. I am nervous and turned on all at the same time!


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