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Having been an xleg fan for several years I believe he is maybe the best author at understanding the cuckold kink. I know there are many varieties, but to me the true cuckold is an otherwise normal guy who puts his better half on a pedestal and wants her to have as much sexual and/or emotional pleasure with others that she can get. Having his guts ripped out by feelings of jealousy, humiliation and rejection from the one he loves most is his dark and twisted sexual obsession that he both loves and hates. Mike allowed his lust to drive him to the extreme and ultimate level. Perhaps his only salvation would have been for Jen to love him and understand him enough to give him what he craved without loosing herself, but that did not happen. For him, it's the final cuckolding that he will live with forever.

Much to xleg's credit, his skill attracts lots of attention and not just from the cuckold crowd. His talent at weaving a story is truly remarkable and I especially admire his skill with dialog. It is confusing to me that he titled this story to make it sound like a BTB story, and I think that attracted a lot of readers and a lot of negative posts that might not have been otherwise.

Many thanks to xleg for all he has done to entertain us and I hope this story is not the last we hear from him.

I see Xleg stories as more of a cautionary tale or guide as why not to entertain this lifestyle, there is never a happy ending and there is never a balance only addiction and heartbreak but like the saying goes be careful what you wish for.


Wow - not sure what stories you've been reading. Prior to this one, all of the stories I read had happy endings. I would not even be surprised to see this story, ultimately l, end with a reunion.

I don't see this as a warning to people considering the lifestyle. The stories are hot and the trauma is intense which makes for good fiction and reading. Their is also lots of hot sex!!!

Part of this lifestyle is the intense rush. It's like a drug. Their is no force stronger than sex. This is extreme sex. Having tasted it, it is like drug-addiction. Like a drug, it's a fun ride, but is also dangerous.

These stories simply explore the emotions of exploring this intense, exciting, sex-filled, drug addiction like, dangerous lifestyle.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:52 pm 
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.... Thank God people can't just film their own episodes of Game of Thrones....


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That was a very enjoyable read and potential ending.

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There seems to be a barometer for judging an authors interest in the story they are currently working on and or finishing. To me its their interest in the reception of what they are writing.....if I use this as a guide to judge how interested xleg was at the end of this story I would have to believe he had lost all interest. I am only saying this for two reasons.....the solution/ending was one that could have been used at any number of moments in the story so it kind of felt mailed in....the second and to me most telling piece of evidence is that Xleg has not even bothered to log on and check any reader reaction since he posted the last chapter... not even once. I once before suggested he was burning himself out and I am afraid it has finally happened

Thats not to say he wont come back and write more like he suggested but will his heart and desire be refreshed enough to see it through enthusiastically until the end...I hope he takes a nice"Sabbatical " and comes back recharged and refreshed.


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@maedhros I felt the exact same way. It was like here, you want an ending, take that, lol


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REALLYFORREAL , very , very well done ! Great reading ! the storyline is balanced with Jen finally showing signs of having a conscience . Still the subtle hanging point of her real motives for wanting to see Mike . The fact that her relationship with Scott seems to be going pear-shaped gives one the impression that Mike could be second prize in a raffle , or could it be that she realises she still loves him ? Please ask Xleg's permission if you intend to give us more . I certainly WOULD URGE YOU TO DO SO !


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Samanthasman wrote:
xian2014 wrote:
rootcause wrote:

Much to xleg's credit, his skill attracts lots of attention and not just from the cuckold crowd. His talent at weaving a story is truly remarkable and I especially admire his skill with dialog. It is confusing to me that he titled this story to make it sound like a BTB story, and I think that attracted a lot of readers and a lot of negative posts that might not have been otherwise.

Many thanks to xleg for all he has done to entertain us and I hope this story is not the last we hear from him.


I see Xleg stories as more of a cautionary tale or guide as why not to entertain this lifestyle, there is never a happy ending and there is never a balance only addiction and heartbreak but like the saying goes be careful what you wish for.


Wow - not sure what stories you've been reading. Prior to this one, all of the stories I read had happy endings. I would not even be surprised to see this story, ultimately l, end with a reunion.

I don't see this as a warning to people considering the lifestyle. The stories are hot and the trauma is intense which makes for good fiction and reading. Their is also lots of hot sex!!!


I'm quoting you three but answering to Samanthasman. I fully agree with Xian2014 and share the opinion of rootcause, at least the part I've quoted. Samanthasman, you're from the lifestyle instead of someone looking in, trying to figure out if it’s worth it or not. You like it and share with everyone here your opinion - with is in your right, btw. However, for the curious outsiders, males in relationships in particular, the net result for the cuckold in a cuckold story like this one is not positive. You talk about some benefits that for some, they simply don't exist or may actually be negatives. Big X work touch on the husband full devotion to the wife and his ego trip of having her always get back to him, which is appealing in some ways. This story, for the "wise" non-lifestyler fans even appeared to offer the rare opportunity of having, Jen, the character with the most thick plot armor, suffer some consequences for once, the so-called BTB-ending which could be a twist in the usual narrative. However, that didn't happened and the husband was, in a way, eaten alive by his kink/addiction while he was used and discarded by his wife. Personally, that's not the kind of fate I want for me. Immersing myself into the story, I would prefer to be Scott but the story is written from either Mike's or Jen's POV which makes it hard to not disassociate with them.
To sum up, I can't say this story was enjoyable to read from where I come from – you and others certainly have different views. Moving on, the previous story, for all of the problems I had voiced, had more depth and nuances and a more likable Mike (despite him being "god"...). This one was just another cuckold story that you can read on lit - or avoid it like the plague. Not the best work from Xleglover but hopefully, not his last.


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Unread postPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:29 pm 
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I thought the storyline played itself out and had to end. From a Mike and Jen perspective, they both were hurting and Cuckolding was no longer an option. No Cuckold, no story.

The question I have in the last chapter is whether Jen fell from grace or whether she was pushed? It's a matter of perspective.

I am confused on the quote below:
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They were silent for long moments. Finally Jen said “I have to do this. Otherwise I’ll never know.” After a pause she said, “Scotty’s waiting downstairs.”

Jen says, 'Otherwise, I'll never know.' Never know what? If she's saying, never know if Scotty's the man of her dreams and she wants Mike's permission to find out, then Mike is right to cut her lose.


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Mari55 wrote:
Samanthasman wrote:
xian2014 wrote:
rootcause wrote:

Much to xleg's credit, his skill attracts lots of attention and not just from the cuckold crowd. His talent at weaving a story is truly remarkable and I especially admire his skill with dialog. It is confusing to me that he titled this story to make it sound like a BTB story, and I think that attracted a lot of readers and a lot of negative posts that might not have been otherwise.

Many thanks to xleg for all he has done to entertain us and I hope this story is not the last we hear from him.


I see Xleg stories as more of a cautionary tale or guide as why not to entertain this lifestyle, there is never a happy ending and there is never a balance only addiction and heartbreak but like the saying goes be careful what you wish for.


Wow - not sure what stories you've been reading. Prior to this one, all of the stories I read had happy endings. I would not even be surprised to see this story, ultimately l, end with a reunion.

I don't see this as a warning to people considering the lifestyle. The stories are hot and the trauma is intense which makes for good fiction and reading. Their is also lots of hot sex!!!


I'm quoting you three but answering to Samanthasman. I fully agree with Xian2014 and share the opinion of rootcause, at least the part I've quoted. Samanthasman, you're from the lifestyle instead of someone looking in, trying to figure out if it’s worth it or not. You like it and share with everyone here your opinion - with is in your right, btw. However, for the curious outsiders, males in relationships in particular, the net result for the cuckold in a cuckold story like this one is not positive. You talk about some benefits that for some, they simply don't exist or may actually be negatives. Big X work touch on the husband full devotion to the wife and his ego trip of having her always get back to him, which is appealing in some ways. This story, for the "wise" non-lifestyler fans even appeared to offer the rare opportunity of having, Jen, the character with the most thick plot armor, suffer some consequences for once, the so-called BTB-ending which could be a twist in the usual narrative. However, that didn't happened and the husband was, in a way, eaten alive by his kink/addiction while he was used and discarded by his wife. Personally, that's not the kind of fate I want for me. Immersing myself into the story, I would prefer to be Scott but the story is written from either Mike's or Jen's POV which makes it hard to not disassociate with them.
To sum up, I can't say this story was enjoyable to read from where I come from – you and others certainly have different views. Moving on, the previous story, for all of the problems I had voiced, had more depth and nuances and a more likable Mike (despite him being "god"...). This one was just another cuckold story that you can read on lit - or avoid it like the plague. Not the best work from Xleglover but hopefully, not his last.


Interesting perspective.

I feel like this entire forum is a cautionary tail of what can go wrong... mixed with lots of hot stories of why people get off on this. I would pretty totally agree that this might not be a top read for peeps that are only "considering" the lifestyle, but don't already want it. I'm someone who "needs" this and now lives it. I assume most of the guys on here have the gene, or whatever it is that makes a man turned on by this. I sort of assume that guys that are not already turned on by the thought of their wives getting pumped full of cum by another man, are not in the high majority of readers here. I could be wrong, but I don't think many guys that are normal - i.e. turned off big time by the thought of other men fucking their wives, ever come onto a site like this and wonder around thinking "hummm, maybe I should try letting my wife fuck another man... I wonder if I might like that".

For those "looking in" but not committed, my assumption is that you want it, but are concerned that it could ruin your marriage (or want it, but just can't yet get your wife all in). And, the truth is that it. An ruin your marriage, and can also bring you to new highs. Just like most of the X stories end happy, some don't.

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Samanthasman wrote:

For those "looking in" but not committed, my assumption is that you want it, but are concerned that it could ruin your marriage (or want it, but just can't yet get your wife all in). And, the truth is that it. An ruin your marriage, and can also bring you to new highs. Just like most of the X stories end happy, some don't.


Well, I can't speak for others but in my case I would only be interested in the very sporadic MFM threesome, and of course in the also very sporadic MFF threesome - just like in the old college days. I have no interest on living a lifestyle nor in changing my relationship - simply to satisfy a fantasy, this time, with my life partner. My problem or should I admit fear, is the risk of the fun time becoming a permanent and defining trait of the relationship.
I came here for Big X's stories first, but stood around to satisfy my curiosity and found out that amongst the people here, my ideal potential way of playing is rare to non-existent – stuff of dreams, really. Not only that, I also found out that what I fear is the reality for a lot of couples which was a very disheartening finding and completely at odds with couples' friendly hotwife porn portray. Yes, many people couldn't be happier with this lifestyle but I simply cannot envision a happy future for me and my current relationship. The people here helped reach this conclusion and I am grateful to them.


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Samanthasman wrote:
For those "looking in" but not committed, my assumption is that you want it, but are concerned that it could ruin your marriage (or want it, but just can't yet get your wife all in).
Wrong assumption. As Michaelis said in "Rogue Sum":
"We had been at a wine bar for a while, and out of the blue, he started talking about cuckold fiction. He theorized that 'cuckold angst' is the needs for both sex and belonging coming forward. Just like fear comes forward as part of the entertainment of horror. You may not be a perv, but more of a certain kind of 'thrill seeker' to pursue or enjoy such angst."

To get the thrill out of the story we don't need to be planning on being serial killers... I mean victims of unfaithful partners... I mean...
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"I didn't want to do it but I got too lonely
"I had to call you up in the middle of the night
"I know it's awful hard to try to make love long distance
"But I really needed stimulation
"Though it was only my imagination

"It's just a fantasy
"It's not the real thing
"It's just a fantasy
"It's not the real thing
"But sometimes a fantasy
"Is all you need"


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Mari55 wrote:
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For those "looking in" but not committed, my assumption is that you want it, but are concerned that it could ruin your marriage (or want it, but just can't yet get your wife all in). And, the truth is that it. An ruin your marriage, and can also bring you to new highs. Just like most of the X stories end happy, some don't.


Well, I can't speak for others but in my case I would only be interested in the very sporadic MFM threesome, and of course in the also very sporadic MFF threesome - just like in the old college days. I have no interest on living a lifestyle nor in changing my relationship - simply to satisfy a fantasy, this time, with my life partner. My problem or should I admit fear, is the risk of the fun time becoming a permanent and defining trait of the relationship.
I came here for Big X's stories first, but stood around to satisfy my curiosity and found out that amongst the people here, my ideal potential way of playing is rare to non-existent – stuff of dreams, really. Not only that, I also found out that what I fear is the reality for a lot of couples which was a very disheartening finding and completely at odds with couples' friendly hotwife porn portray. Yes, many people couldn't be happier with this lifestyle but I simply cannot envision a happy future for me and my current relationship. The people here helped reach this conclusion and I am grateful to them.


I'd say then your time here was well spent! You came to explore, you explored, you determined this is not for you. You got what you were looking for - an answer to your questions.

So, forgive me for asking, but why are you still here?

And by "you" I don't specifically me you in particular, but anyone on this forum that has come here and conclude that hotwifing is not a good lifestyle?
It's like you came to check out the party, determined it's not for you, but stayed anyway. That fine, all are welcome, but it's a little odd. Plus, if you are gonna stay at the party that you don't like, please don't tell the other people the party sucks. That's a little rude.
And, again, I'm addressing the may "you's " that have determined this is not for you.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:25 am 
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Samanthasman wrote:
So, forgive me for asking, but why are you still here?
And by "you" I don't specifically me you in particular, but anyone on this forum that has come here and conclude that hotwifing is not a good lifestyle?
It's like you came to check out the party, determined it's not for you, but stayed anyway. That fine, all are welcome, but it's a little odd. Plus, if you are gonna stay at the party that you don't like, please don't tell the other people the party sucks. That's a little rude.
And, again, I'm addressing the may "you's " that have determined this is not for you.


Odd question with an odd answer. Should I really answer in the first place? As it's off-topic by quite a lot, shouldn't you better make a thread with a poll or something? I can even give back the question to you since I've been wondering why, in the last couple of months, you've tried to actively promote your choices in life and glorifying the lifestyle to newcomers or people who have doubts beyond what I would consider mere friendly advice, especially when you have extoled virtues while forgetting to even mention the sacrifices necessary to achieve happiness and balance. Don't take this in the wrong way by any means – I’m not judging and the question is really rhetorical, at best. No one can point a finger at someone else other than him or her for a bad decision he or she took, IMHO. Just like me, those newcomers who came here must have read other testimonies, right?
Anyway, to satisfy your curiosity like some very kind people satisfied mine before, I will offer you’re a proper answer. There are interesting threads worth reading, IMO. Like the very insightful (for outsiders) current "Anklets" thread and the always funny caricature (my personal take) of the cuckold written by Excitedcuckold also here in the Library. It’s also nice to read feel good stories like Rob+8’s, even though the way he plays with his wife is way out of my comfort zone. Other threads have attracted my interest from time to time too. This wouldn't be a good forum without active and engaging posters, after all. Do not also forget that this website is the place that Xleglover decided to call home and release his stories first, last time I've checked. It's worth coming here from time to time to know if there's new updates or news about the author of this thread.
Once here, is it then really forbidden to read other threads? If that is indeed true, then it is a new unwritten forum rule, at least one I did not know about before. I am always learning around here!
PS: If and when you make your poll, do make sure to choose possible answers that could meet a very diverse set of reasons. Who knows? It could turn out to be a very helpful poll for the whole website in various ways.


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Just to add another voice, I read erotic stories for a variety of reasons, and yes one is pure titilation, but also to learn about other "lifestyles", but not because I'm interested in trying them, just intellectual curiosity. I'm with the same beautiful woman for 45 years and I don't share, but am always curious about what others do or don't do. I like X's writing and have said that numerous times, and I also think he lost interest in this story early on and it isn't close to his best effort. I also believe, as do others here, that X is incapable of writing anything where Jen suffers any long term repercussions. Mike on the other hand is humiliated, degraded, cheated on and lied to continuously. Nothing is ever sacred to Jen, she gives away everything to others and keeps nothing for Mike. Licking his ass - she did it for Ricky more and also for Frank; her cheer uniform - gave it to Frank and his bodyguards so that Mike never wanted to see it again; her ass to anyone but Mike. What has she, in any story, kept for only Mike. Some would say her heart but even that is not true, Ricky in the prior story and Scotty here. I liked reallyforreal's story line and encourage it being continued in a separate thread, with or without X's permission, but I hope X does not continue this story as he is taking it nowhere.

I do not agree that just because someone, males in particular, read stories here or elsewhwere about cuckolding that they are interested in trying it. It is human nature to be curious without actually wanting to experience. Does some of X's writing turn me on, yes. Do I want to try it out, no. Is it because I'm afraid of consequences, I'm sure that's in there, but as I said above, I don't share. An extreme example of this from my own life, when my kids were very young they would crawl into my lap at dinner and eat from my plate. My wife would laugh at me as I grimaced when they did that, knowing how I didn't like to share (and no, I never stopped them, I'd just grimace and bear it), but it did grate on me. As I said, I don't share, a flaw in my character.

X, I hope you're relaxing with family, enjoying life and your Jen, and come back recharged but, again, I plead with you to write something new, not just a repeat of your past stories.

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I had no idea so many people not interested in this lifestyle were on this thread/forum. I stand corrected in my prior comment and assumption stating otherwise.

Perhaps that also explains some of the comments and the tone of reaction some here have shared about this story (and, now that I think about it, for some other threads as well).

Frankly, if someone is not in this lifestyle (or wanting to be), I can't imagine them really being able to relate to these experiences. Several readers got sooo upset about Mike being humiliated, etc., when that is exactly what he craves. Some readers are upset that Jen is a sex addict that cheats and fucks like a whore, but the truth is being married to a stunnining beautiful sex addict that can't get enough other men..ummmmm, well... that is like winning lotto for a cuckold!

There are plenty of things in the world I don't understand or relate to. I don't really get the foot fetish thing. I can't imagine spending time on a forum discussing it (although I guess perhaps it's titalating), but mostly I can't imagine posting on a foot fetish forum about my reaction specific to foot fetish experiences (although I get that I would be free to do so).

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Samanthasman,

Let me start by saying I'm clearly one of the ones who's not in the lifestyle as a cuckold but I have been on the outer fringes of a few in real life. I followed X over here from that other site since I felt this might be a better place to learn about it. Even the people who don't agree with the lifestyle tend to comment well thought out replies. But I digress...I do have some questions maybe you can answer...

Does every cuck relationship have to include humiliation? You said that's what Mike craves. That's one of the things I don't get. Mike never knows what he really wants. He certainly isn't clear when he communicates or even when he inner monologues. She makes those leaps and implements them when he is hard and they are fooling around. In this story and the last it comes off more as coerced than Mike as a willing participant. She doesn't get credit cause she happened to be right. What if she wasn't? What if she tried something that he didn't like? She'd pull the "you can't get mad at me for that Mike?" Card that she has pulled so many other times. What Jen does to Mike is akin to what Frank pulled with Jen in the staircase.

Does every cuck relationship include disrespect? Can we agree that over the last two stories that Jen has disrespected Mike? Even when they do communicate and Mike tells her what he wants and does not want Jen, Jen usually throws those out for the window for what she wants. And I'm sure fucking his brother wasn't something he wanted.

I was originally very pro Mike and anti Jen when I started reading X's stories. But now I am very anti both of them. They seem like one dimension caricatures of a cuckold couple.

Lastly...to all the people who appreciated my little start of an epilogue and suggested I keep going, thank you. Unfortunately I'm a horrible writer. I change tense, have horrible grammar and my spelling is a nightmare save for autocorrect. I occasionally pop in X's stories with a what if things went this way type of scenario to give readers a view. It's just easier to do it like the story then to say what if this happened and then this and then this.


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I certainly can't speak for all cuckolds, but I can say from my own perspective, as a cuckold, Mike loves the ride he is on. He loves it and he needs it. He's a smart guy, and could have quit many times, but he loves it and needs it.

Do all cuckold relationships involve humiliation? No, but I can see how it would be an enormous turn on. My wife recently went out with a very dominant guy with a huge cock. She told me that he might not allow her to fuck me after he claimed her pussy as his own, and that she might just want to focus on servicing him and all of his needs instead of mine. Is that humiliation? Is that disrespectful? I could see that some would see it that way. My initial reaction was "what the fuck, you are my wife and he's just ihere at my invitation"... but at the same time I was thinking that, honestly, I'm rock hard thinking about some other guy totally dominating my wife like that, and my wife being so hot and bothered and turned on that she would want that. I don't expect someone that does not have the cuckold gene (or whatever that is) to understand it.

I'm also pasting below a duplicate of a posting I also pasted into another thread that was also exploring the differences in roles....here that is:

I'm a cuckold.. Neither wife or boyfriends have ever humiliated or dominated me, although I might be open to some. Wife does some denial with me and definately let's them do things I'm not allowed to do. I'm somewhat between alpha and beta - I guess a switch. Wife hates being called a hotwife. Instead she says she's into unilateral non-monogamy (i.e. She is a hotwife, lol). She hates the term "bull". She prefers "boyfriend".

On occasion (like now), I have a GF (with wife's blessing of course). With GF I am totally alpha. I'd say I kinda learned how to be dominant from watching my wife's BFs dominate her. I actually have yet to find a woman that does not want to be dominated (I know they exist, I've just not found one). It's sort of amazing - you just look into a woman's eyes on a date and tell her "I need you to get down on your knees and take me in your mouth and swallow everything I give you", and they just do it!! ... and love it!!! One woman even told me when we started dating that she had never given a blowjob (to completion) and was turned off by the thought of semen in her mouth. I thought "ok, next", but besides that, she was an uber hot little spinner with big tits and a ton of fun...so we kept going and ended up fucking. It's was great sex. After that I told her "I need you to start taking me in your mouth and letting me cum in you that way. She said "I understand" and did so immediately without hesitation (and really well, I might add!). Just like that. Being dominant with a woman is like using Jedi mind powers on them, lol. Oh, and I told another woman this story, who is married, and she said "that's hot!", and is now trying to talk her hubby into letting her be a hotwife. Who knows... maybe someday I'll be a bull, lol.

So... cuckolds, hotwifes... subs, doms...bulls and boyfriends... in our own adventures, the lines are blurry and the terms are blurry and they all blend together.

I see Mike and Jen as just another couple on the continuum

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Samanthasman, One may not be into cuckolding but may like reading about or looking from the outside much like a voyeur, maybe that is where they get there excitement from.

The difference from your experiences and lifestyle from Mike and Jen is the fact that you and your wife sat down and talk about it set up rules and boundaries and continue to talk from what I gather from your post. Mike and Jen never talk, never set rules or boundaries and if one is set Jen feels she has the okay to break it because Mike never speaks up until its to late, their relationship was doom to end from the beginning, can Xleg bring them full circle..sure but why would he? maybe if Mike pursues this lifestyle in the future with another woman hopefully he will learn from his mistakes and adjust accordingly, then again if he fails to learn from the past then he is doomed to fail again.


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Im only posting this because its,sad to see xlegs name slowly sinking to bottom of the page :???: :roll: :mrgreen: :shock:


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I keep waiting to see him recharge his batteries and bring on part 2 of the saga in a regenerated mode.
C'mom X I know you got in you.

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Don't we miss the guy when he's not posting ! Xleg , thank you for your unselfish time and enjoyment you give us !


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Unread postPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:28 am 
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Don't we miss the guy when he's not posting ! Xleg , thank you for your unselfish time and enjoyment you give us !


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