A Curse? A Cruel Trick Of Nature?

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A Curse? A Cruel Trick Of Nature?

Unread post by hubudig2 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:26 am

I'm not sure if this breaks forum rules about posts being the responsibility of the poster.
I get contacted by cuckolds and wannabes outside of this forum, I won't go into why here/now.
This guy has me a bit stumped for advice though, I've not come across someone that actually wishes he could stop his fantasies before.
I've stitched together parts of his messages into a single story and he's given permission for me to share it here.
He doesn't have an account on here but I will give him a link so he can see the responses, maybe he'll register.
About a year ago I found myself becoming addicted to cuckold porn. I don't think I really considered my wife much as part of the fantasy at that time. During a conversation about sex and relationships I asked her if she'd ever heard of cuckolding. She said she had, half jokingly but excitedly she asked "you're not into that are you?". I quickly denied it. She thought it was a shame and went on to explain how lucky she thinks cuckold's wives are. She told me there's a guy at work she has some sexual tension with before realising what she was telling me and quickly reassured me it was nothing to worry about. She went on to tell me how amazing she thought it would be as a cuckold's wife to be able to explore opportunities like that rather than resist them.
Obviously there was more to the conversation than that but those were the parts that replayed in my head over and over. I found this conversation both deeply worrying and such a turn on. It felt like she had unknowingly thrown a match at a haystack that had been drying in the sun for far too long. I had met the guy she had sexual tension with and I couldn't help fantasize about him with her and jerk off to the idea after that conversation. It was probably the most intense masturbation session I ever had. Afterwards I felt terrible, the thought of my wife being tempted by another man made me feel nothing but sickened and upset. I couldn't shake the idea though, wondering if she'd fantasized about sex with him, maybe she'd even masturbated thinking about him. Pretty quickly I started to get turned on again and found myself masturbating to the idea again. Again, after cumming the idea was only painful and I realised I needed to stop thinking about it or it would get worse. I couldn't do it, it was like a curse.
I'm cursed to be turned on by the most painful and upsetting thing I could ever imagine happening. I had become obsessed with the idea of my wife with her colleague. Every time I masturbated, every time we had sex, any time I was horny the idea was there, waiting to torment me with pleasure followed by pain and regret.
A couple of weeks after the conversation I saw him with her at her Christmas party. There was definitely sexual tension, I felt sick to watch but instead of trying to distract her away from him like I felt I would've done previously I found myself powerless to stop it and almost wanting him to succeed in his attempts with her. I was now turned on and ideas like them sneaking off to have sex were filling my head and were so pleasurable to think about. Eventually I would get distracted by something or someone else enough to pull my head out of the horny fog and I would realise how painful the idea of them together was.
This is how it has been since the night of that conversation, an eternal struggle to fight this curse, this cruel trick of nature. I don't want to talk with my wife about it, I guess because I don't want to make it anymore real than it already is. Just mentioning it to her last time is what took it from a porn addiction to something much more scary and closer to home.
Has anyone ever managed to make this go away or make it easier? As much as I enjoy the fantasy, I want to go back to being able to enjoy sex the way I used to.
How many guys live with this urge without telling their wives?
I worry that the pain gets less each time I think about it and eventually I'm going to ask her to fuck her friend from work and she'll willingly do so.
As much as I love the idea when I'm horny, it isn't the future I want for us. I don't want to change the way our relationship is.
Is anyone able to answer his questions?
Is anyone in this situation or have they been in this situation and what was the outcome? What advice would they give to their younger self?
Thanks in advance.
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Unread post by mfm4bnc » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:09 pm

I was actually just thinking I want to back off. My wife feels like I am not as attracted to HER as I am to a fantasy of her in a particular role. The problem is, I have chronic pain and difficulty with erections. It seems like cuckold fantasies are the only way I reliably get hard. I want to give my wife what SHE wants too... I need to figure out a way to get bones without teh fantasies...

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Unread post by hubudig2 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:00 pm

Sounds like you guys are trying to wean yourselves off smack or something.
It's not even like you can go cold turkey on it, your mind has an unlimited supply of fantasies to shoot up on.
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I have chronic pain and difficulty with erections. It seems like cuckold fantasies are the only way I reliably get hard.
Sounds like morphine and viagra might be a safer bet than those cuckold fantasies you're ODing on :lol:
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Unread post by Nothing2see » Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:56 pm

The different feelings pre and post orgasm (we use rhe term "post nut clarity" here) is quite common. Rather than rely on us internet denizens for answers, I highly recommend counseling and therapy from a professional, non-clergy source.
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Unread post by wulfenus » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:12 am

any wife that says she is envious of a cuckold's wife isn't waiting for her husband's permission.

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Unread post by hubudig2 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:46 am

Yeah I noticed that as unusual aswell but wouldn't have said it means she would just straight up do it without his permission.
If he wasn't already turned on by cuckolding, saying those things would likely plant the idea and maybe put a guy on a path towards it?
It makes me wonder if she's been subconsciously conditioning him into wanting to be cuckolded.
I find some of the stories where women do that to be both hot as fuck and kinda scary.
I would assume at this stage that she isn't aware she's doing it but it sounds like she wouldn't have to try too hard to get what she wants.
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Unread post by Freddy314 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:37 am

Sounds like a conundrum for him. Many of us on here wish our wives were were as open to the idea as his is. If that was the case for us, it would seem like it is much more likely that it could happen, then we would have to really evaluate if we could handle it if it did.

The idea is exciting, but the reality might be too intense for some of us. In my case, I use the fantasy to masturbate, or talk about it with wife to heighten the excitement of our sex, but after orgasm, it doesn't seem as appealing.

In his case, he needs to figure out if the pleasure of thinking about it, or possibly realizing it, is worth the pain it causes him. I don't think it necessarily means she will cheat, that depends on her character and commitment to him. But I think his wife is way on board with the possibility of doing it if she is given the green light.

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Unread post by PaNic » Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:15 pm

I don’t have the answers to his questions but I would suggest two things:
Firstly share his doubts and fears as well as his excitement with his wife, talk it out, ask how she feels and what she wants too. It’s ok and perfectly normal to have contradictory feelings and to be unsure what you want but it could get very messy if you don’t communicate about it!
Secondly, if the contradiction inside him is causing real anguish it could be worth looking at it with a therapist
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Unread post by hubudig2 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:05 pm

Freddy314 wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:37 am
Sounds like a conundrum for him. Many of us on here wish our wives were were as open to the idea as his is. If that was the case for us, it would seem like it is much more likely that it could happen, then we would have to really evaluate if we could handle it if it did.

The idea is exciting, but the reality might be too intense for some of us. In my case, I use the fantasy to masturbate, or talk about it with wife to heighten the excitement of our sex, but after orgasm, it doesn't seem as appealing.

In his case, he needs to figure out if the pleasure of thinking about it, or possibly realizing it, is worth the pain it causes him. I don't think it necessarily means she will cheat, that depends on her character and commitment to him. But I think his wife is way on board with the possibility of doing it if she is given the green light.
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Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:15 pm
I don’t have the answers to his questions but I would suggest two things:
Firstly share his doubts and fears as well as his excitement with his wife, talk it out, ask how she feels and what she wants too. It’s ok and perfectly normal to have contradictory feelings and to be unsure what you want but it could get very messy if you don’t communicate about it!
Secondly, if the contradiction inside him is causing real anguish it could be worth looking at it with a therapist
I think you're both right about talking to his wife about it.
I've explained that she could indulge his fantasy and let him actually enjoy it as just a fantasy and something that enhances their foreplay etc.
Maybe what it boils down to is not trusting his wife.
That's partly her fault because of the comments she made in that conversation but I guess she wasn't to know the impact they would have.
She might argue that she wouldn't have made those comments if he hadn't lied about not being into it.
I understand why he doesn't want to talk to her about it though, it's a hell of a leap of faith.
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Unread post by PaNic » Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:54 am

I think what it boils down to is the boundary between a private and a shared fantasy.

Having shared his fantasy he is no longer in total control of it. Another person, his wife, is also putting her feelings, intentions and desires into what happens now. That can be both very exciting AND very scary! Therefore the need for them to communicate both their fears and excitements with delicacy and love
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Unread post by wulfenus » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:12 am

hubudig2 wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:46 am

It makes me wonder if she's been subconsciously conditioning him into wanting to be cuckolded.

I would assume at this stage that she isn't aware she's doing it but it sounds like she wouldn't have to try too hard to get what she wants.
exactly and entirely possible. Couples do it for all kinds of decisions, this one fits right in, that way she doesnt have to take
the blame or responsibility (or all of it).

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Unread post by Bent_n_Twisted » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:59 am

wulfenus wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:12 am
any wife that says she is envious of a cuckold's wife isn't waiting for her husband's permission.
Plenty of people have desires that they never act on (even with 'permission').

But it does sound as though if hubby were to say "Go for it" she wouldn't waste much time.
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Unread post by Bent_n_Twisted » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:17 am

Pretty quickly I started to get turned on again and found myself masturbating to the idea again. Again, after cumming the idea was only painful and I realised I needed to stop thinking about it or it would get worse. I couldn't do it, it was like a curse.
I'm cursed to be turned on by the most painful and upsetting thing I could ever imagine happening. I had become obsessed with the idea of ...Every time I masturbated, every time we had sex, any time I was horny the idea was there, waiting to torment me with pleasure followed by pain and regret.
I don't think that this sort of conflict is all that uncommon. I know that I have had some things that turned me on when I was horny, but after getting my rocks off I'd think "I'm never doing that again", wondering how I could have been aroused by it. And then I get horny again...

Resolving the conflict is a matter of accepting the fact that one is aroused by it, for whatever reason. Easy to say, but not always easy to do.
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Unread post by hubudig2 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:24 am

I asked him if he could think of anything she might've done that he might consider as being encouraging of cuckold fantasies.
He came back with:
Actually, about 2 years ago, it seemed like her idea for me to buy her an 8" realistic dildo. It's at least 2" bigger than me and thicker. We already had a few smaller plain dildo/vibrators and she hadn't really been all that into those before then.
At first I would use it on her towards the end of sex or after I cum when she needed something more. Admittedly, it gradually became something she used on herself with me watching. Honestly, it has become more of a foreplay thing as well now, I get myself hard watching her use it and usually can't resist going down on her after which she also loves.
I can't decide if this progression was because of her or me. The going down on her part was definitely my urge. Writing it down like this makes it seem like she would obviously be onto me but at least until I started going down on her after, I hadn't considered it might be giving me away.
I feel really embarrassed now that she knows and is just waiting for me to fess up.
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Unread post by hubudig2 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:25 am

I'm willing to bet that 2 years ago, she came close to cheating with someone with a bigger cock.
She sees that dildo as more than just 8 inches of hard silicone and she probably feels like she's the one hiding a fantasy from him.
I feel bad for saying it and I feel bad for him but that's my gut feeling on this one now.
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Unread post by afagehi7 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:31 pm

wulfenus wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:12 am
any wife that says she is envious of a cuckold's wife isn't waiting for her husband's permission.
Hey, I think you dropped the mic.

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Unread post by hubudig2 » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:03 pm

There has been a development but he's asked me not to share it publicly unfortunately.
This is probably the wrong forum for this question now but once your wife sees you as a cuck, is there any decent way back from that?
Can a guy with cuck fantasies, that his wife sees as a cuck and wishes was a cuck continue a regular sex life with his wife without some resentment on either side?
Would they both be better off if he just accepted he's a cuck and move onto the idea of bringing in a bull?

Obviously his wife can't just expect to be able to fuck around because she sees him as a cuck, they should be mutually consenting in the matter.
If she's not sexually satisfied enough by him you could argue that she shouldn't have married him but you could could also argue that people and circumstances change and the strongest marriages are the ones that can adapt to those changes.
Maybe sexual satisfaction isn't the problem and she naturally feels the urge to cuck her husband with sexually superior men?
Maybe his desire to be cucked and subsequently his sexual behaviour evokes that need within her.
I've posed these questions to him:
Even if you could somehow shake off the cuckold fantasies, is your sex life or would your sex life be how you both want it to be long term?
Would you feel ok/justified about preventing your wife from enjoying the pleasures of a superior lover for the rest of her life? Especially given you would also, at least partly, enjoy allowing her those pleasures.

I feel like the sooner they can openly communicate and be on the same page about it, the sooner they can work out where to go with it, together, instead of 2 people trying to hide things from each other.
To be fair, without giving too much away, the development is a small step towards being on the same page, sorry to be cryptic.

I know there'll be guys that say they've dipped in and out of the cuckolding lifestyle and sex with their wife has always been good.
I guess each couples' dynamic is different, each experience and opinion is valid.
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Unread post by hotwifegoddes4u » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:31 pm

You're right, it is different for each couple and each individual. What he describes sounds like what I went through as a teenager in high school. My girlfriend was 15 and I was 16. I was an intensely jealous boyfriend and she was kind of a flirt. Eventually this one guy made an admission to her of being "in love" with her. In front of me. At a party. Instead of standing up for me and saying, "well... I am flattered by I am already happily dating..." She just gave him her sympathy look and said, "Awww...". I was boiling mad. We had a huge fight and most broke up over it. After that point I didn't trust her at all. I was even more suspicious of her with other guys. Up to the point where I tried calling her house once and heard some odd springy sounds that sounded like her bed (back in the analog phone days). I was convinced she was getting banged. Went over to her house and she wasn't there at all.

Amazingly, we got past it and our relationship lasted up until college when she did fool around with someone and I broke up with her over it. She wanted to get together again and I said I wouldn't take her back. But she came home for a visit and something changed in me. Somehow, having sex with her after she'd been with someone else was now... a turn on during sex, but really painful and enraging any other time. We fooled around on and off when she came back to town and it was always hot, especially when she told me how many guys she was fucking. Eventually I got over the jealousy thing because the pleasure I experienced was far greater. From that time onward I was changed. Somehow the idea of being jealous and insecure about things just seemed ridiculous. It did take a while to get there though.

Once I finally got a realistic preview of having a hotwife with my real wife (not my HS girlfriend) when we were dating, I knew I could handle anything. The more she fucked her ex boyfriend while we were dating, the further she seemed to go. The best experience was her taking off for a week out of town with him in L.A. where he lived at the time. She basically gave home the GFE for a full week (full access to everything including her back door). My old jealous self would have been absolutely enraged and probably would have wanted to fight the guy.

So I think your friend might be going through the very early stages of overcoming the pain, jealously and hurt feelings that men have been conditioned to believe are the right responses. Although many of us talk about being "lesser" which is why we want to be cuckolded, or why our wives might want to cuckold us, we didn't all start out that way. In truth, I know I am not inferior. But it is so damn fun to play at it and have the wife get off on herr domme urges a little. Other have health issues that do make us physically unable to perform, so the cuckold role is a way to make things work in a hotter way. Your friend sounds like he probably doesn't see himself as inferior which is why the conditioning we have to automatically react with jealousy l, anger, or experience pain initially feels like the right response. So it can be mind-blowing to find out that your body tells you differently.

Once he reconciles the distribution between the way he actually feels versus the way he thinks he needs to feel, he should be able to adapt. I am pretty sure I am not alone in that experience.

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Unread post by hubudig2 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:23 pm

hotwifegoddes4u wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:31 pm
You're right, it is different for each couple and each individual. What he describes sounds like what I went through as a teenager in high school
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Once he reconciles the distribution between the way he actually feels versus the way he thinks he needs to feel, he should be able to adapt. I am pretty sure I am not alone in that experience.
Thanks for your story, hearing how guys first realised they were turned on by it and came to terms with it is always interesting to me.
I always wonder if my fascination with the subject means that if I were to find myself in a different situation because of a health reason or something whether I would become turned on by the idea myself and wonder if or how I would be able to come to terms with it.
I'm sure he'll appreciate your experience and encouragement too.

His reply to my questions:
I got annoyed when I first read your questions and wrote a response that was basically "yes and yes". I hovered on the send button as I considered whether I was being honest with myself or just wishful thinking. I decided I wasn't being honest and your questions have had me thinking and I've been reflecting for the last day about it.

One thing's for sure, I want her to be sexually satisfied. My gut follow up to that is I want to be the one to satisfy her, she's my wife, it's my responsibility and my privilege to sexually satisfy her. If I'm honest, no, our sex life hasn't been what I want it to be and I imagine it hasn't been what she would want it to be either. I've thought about this all day and until now I always considered it to be her not being in the mood enough that was holding our sex life back. Now I realise that I probably wasn't exciting her or being impulsive or dominant enough for her to want it.
When we bought the 8" dildo, it seemed like she was suddenly more up for it and I was happy about that. Turns out I probably wasn't much good even with the bigger equipment because she soon insisted on using it on herself instead.
I started to wonder, if I could go back in time to our early days knowing what I know now, whether I would be able to try harder to keep her satisfied, be the lover she wants and needs. Honestly, I don't think I'd have it in me and we would probably end up in the same place but possibly a bit further down the line.
That is the choice I face though isn't it? I either need to man up and take control in the bedroom or consider letting someone else do it. As much as I wish I could man up, it would be such an uphill struggle, she would resist it because she doesn't see me as a dominant type and wouldn't allow me to dominate her. Thinking about it this way pushes me towards thinking that maybe I need to accept the idea of her fucking other guys. I'm basically cucked by her dildo already, I watch her fuck herself with that better than I can fuck her before eating and fucking her loosened, used pussy. It really pains me to admit it but I can imagine it might be better for both of us and our marriage if we explored the idea.
I can't believe I'm starting to consider this, it feels like such a terrible mistake.

I don't mind you sharing this message, maybe it will help someone or they can help me.
Thank everyone that's responded from me, I think they're right about the communication issues. I do actually look forward to being able to be open and honest with her about this. What happened the other night felt like a scary first step but the more I think about it, the more I wonder if she's actually being supportive and patiently waiting for me to realise where we're at without rushing me.
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Unread post by zorro » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:07 pm

Interesting sharing. I am struck by how much your penpal is torn by conflicting feelings -- although I suspect all of us had them somewhere along the line. Clearly, he is very excited by the understandably arousing thought of his wife fucking another man because she wants to. There is an enormous power that comes with a woman's sexual desire and capacity that can thrill us no end. And then there is the dark side for him: a complicated melange of sickened feelings, feelings of inadequacy, and perhaps mistrust of his wife. He doesn't say what thoughts sicken him, although understanding those may be crucial for resolution.

From my own life experience, when I found myself immersing myself in thoughts of my wife having sex with another man. It was overwhelmingly erotic -- with nights I would stay up masturbating repeatedly for hours until there was no way I could get over the ridge to cum again and no more fluid to come out if I did. It was exhilirating, enthralling, and exhausting. Once she got around to telling me she had a professor she was in love with it, my jealousy surged, although I did not become angry at her (well, maybe a little sharp in my tone at one point). I had learned to convert my angry jealous arousal into erotic arousal. I had spontaneously learned to eroticize my jealousy. I also tried to learn everything I could about jealousy. I found most helpful Nancy Friday's excellent book called Jealousy. Two thoughts spoke to me: Jealousy is more about ourselves than about the other. And I identified the pain point as thoughts that if she had sex with her love object, I would lose something. On self-questioning, I realized I could not identify what it is I would lose. And by letting go of that toxic automatic thought, I found that my jealousy, anger, and pain went away. They went on to have a sexual love affair, openly, and I found that indeed if there were something I lost I sure couldn't see what it was. My wife continued to love me, want sex with me, and would come home from his place after fucking him to have sex with me. For a while, at least, everyone was getting what they wanted from the triangle. After several months, unfortunately, he decided he wanted her for his own, all of which led to the triangle ending when she refused to give me up for him.

That marriage ended for other reasons than lifestyle, and my current wife is a hotwife who loves to have me join in MFMs, although over the years we have slid back and forth between hotwifing and swinging.

When she has sex with other men, I am struck by how I do not feel I lose anything. I do not feel sickened, I am not angered, I am not upset in any way except when the guy has been a dud and not left her sexually pleasured. On balance, compersion has replaced jealousy.

I think your friend has more self work and self understanding to do. Until he understands his own conflicts and mixed emotional responses, he does not have enough information to go forward without taking impulsive action.
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Unread post by hubudig2 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:16 pm

So the development the other night...
His version of events was quite emotional (emotional to read too) so he'd rather I explained without the emotions.

While he was watching from the end of the bed as his wife cum multiple times in multiple positions with her 8 inch dildo, he plucked up the courage to ask her if she ever imagines that the dildo is another guy's cock she's fucking.
She replied "mmm... yeah... don't you?"
He was speechless but she didn't pursue an answer from him.
He had always considered that she might be fantasizing about another guy but it was more of a fantasy for him that way.
Now he was watching, knowing for sure that she was getting herself off to the idea of someone else and also she knew he knew and didn't protest.
It was the closest to being cucked he had ever felt.
As she brought herself to another amazing climax, she pushed the dildo in deep and gave slow gentle thrusts as if it was cumming inside her, or this is how he saw it.
She gestured him over and he considered that he shouldn't go down on her right now because he would look like a cuck, so he intended to skip to fucking her.
He moved from where her feet were, past her legs as if to get on top of her but as his head passed over her hips, she pushed him down and made him eat her pussy.
She immediately began to cum, much quicker and more intensely than normal.
He was imagining licking cum from her pussy and he thinks she was imagining the same.
After she had finished cumming, he attempted to fuck her but had to stop twice within a few seconds to prevent himself cumming.
The 3rd time he accepted defeat and unloaded into her. They kissed and cuddled but didn't discuss what had just happened.
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Unread post by hubudig2 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:09 am

Thanks zorro for sharing your experience and great advice.
This is definitely what he wants to hear and we are both happy that I suggested sharing his dilemma here.
I have no personal experience of being in his situation so everyone's contributions are helpful and comforting to him.
zorro wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:07 pm
And then there is the dark side for him: a complicated melange of sickened feelings, feelings of inadequacy, and perhaps mistrust of his wife. He doesn't say what thoughts sicken him, although understanding those may be crucial for resolution.
I haven't asked about this, I guess because it makes perfect sense to me.
If my wife were to be with another man, emotional stuff aside, I would think of her as tainted and be sickened by the idea of her having his sweat, scent, saliva and cum on her.
Maybe I'm wrong, I'm sure he'll correct me.
zorro wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:07 pm
I think your friend has more self work and self understanding to do. Until he understands his own conflicts and mixed emotional responses, he does not have enough information to go forward without taking impulsive action.
It sounds like he's on the path to opening up communication and accepting that it's a possibility.
I'm sure his wife will be able to help him more and I hope neither of them rush into anything before they're ready to.
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Re: A Curse? A Cruel Trick Of Nature?

Unread post by hubudig2 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:31 pm

There were some more developments tonight, it seems to be picking up pace as each session gets them more curious and excited.
He feels from experiences tonight that he's confirmed his choice between trying to be more exciting/dominant for her and accepting that she needs someone else.
Their communication continues to open up and he feels more comfortable with where he thinks they are headed.
It definitely seems like she feels like she's the one hiding kinky fantasies from him but admits she needs more time and isn't comfortable telling everything just yet.
I can share the details of what happened if anyone wants?
It feels a bit weird/awkward me retelling someone else's sex life publicly but if anyone finds it interesting, helpful or even erotic, I'm happy to.

Once again, thanks for everyone's advice and stories.
He really has taken them onboard and quickly too.
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Re: A Curse? A Cruel Trick Of Nature?

Unread post by Jacko » Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:32 pm

hubudig2 wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:31 pm
It feels a bit weird/awkward me retelling someone else's sex life publicly but if anyone finds it interesting, helpful or even erotic, I'm happy to.
Please continue!

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Re: A Curse? A Cruel Trick Of Nature?

Unread post by hubudig2 » Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:32 am

Ok Jacko, just for you, enjoy.
I hope this is still accurate, I've added and removed things as best as I could.

This night seemed to start much like the last night I described.
When she takes the dildo out of her drawer, she begins by sucking and licking it.
It used to be just to lube it up but a while ago she realised that if she gave it a blowjob, her pussy would get really wet and that made everything better.
Our guy gets turned on watching her do this, she gets really into it.
While she was doing this he plucked up the courage to ask who she imagined it was.
She said she didn't want to upset him and asked if he was sure he could handle the answer.
He insisted he could and wouldn't be upset with her. She told him it was usually Brad (the guy from work).
She paused, something was on her mind as she continued to suck it.
She blurted out "it's his size" with a slight smile on her face.
He asked how she knew that.
"... he told me... and I've seen it..." she said, nervously.
"When did you see it?"
He felt a pain in his chest and felt his heart beating through his chest thinking about what she might say now.
His dick also hardened and he thinks she definitely noticed.
She explained that she had given him a lift home from work a long time ago and they had joked and flirted during the day about how she would suck his dick in the car.
When they arrived at Brad's house, he took out his hard cock and tempted her to suck it.
She said it took all of her will power to resist, she had to think of [our guy] and her marriage and how it wasn't worth it.
The chest pain subsided a bit and he couldn't help realise that he felt disappointed that she didn't suck and/or fuck him.
She continued to suck. He asked when this happened.
She described it in relation to other things that were happening at that time, he realised it was shortly before they bought this dildo.
He asked if that was what made her want this dildo, she was starting to get agitated from the questioning now.
She reluctantly admitted that it was and explained that she needed to know how it felt.
He asked how it felt, she replied "baby... I don't want to hurt you, you already know it feels good".
He asked if she could give him a blowjob the way she does with the dildo.
"You want me to imagine you're Brad while I suck your cock?", she asked as if it was already a no.
She also glanced at his cock as if she didn't think it was possible to imagine it was Brad's.
He said she looked so good sucking it and wanted to know what that felt like.
She looked like she was about to say no, then paused before suggesting she could try if he would be willing to try something for her after.
He agreed without questioning it.
She told him to stand up, she positioned herself on her knees in front of him.
He immediately began to think about how this was what she wanted to do for Brad.
She took his cock in her hand, she obviously felt a bit awkward about it, especially as she's just been handling something bigger.
She closed her eyes and they remained closed for the full duration.
She began sucking, it was normal at this point, it didn't look like what he had just been watching her do.
She eventually took his hand and put it on the back of her head and she started to get more into it.
He realised this was his opportunity to show her he could be more dominant, she was offering the opportunity, he just had to take it.
She was already behaving more submissively and into it than she would be normally.
That felt weird to him though, he was turned on by watching her be submissive but it didn't feel right that she was being so submissive to him.
He kept finding himself imagining that she was sucking Brad's cock instead, he wished she was and wished she had that time in the car.
She would occasionally seem to lose focus and would frustratedly push his hand against her head to remind him what she needs.
Each time she did this it reminded him that he wasn't able to be dominant with her, it didn't feel right.
He realised this opportunity was slipping away and that he was accepting that he'd rather watch Brad dominate his wife than have the stress of trying to be something he wasn't.
All this thinking kept making him forget to use his hand on her head and she'd yank at his hand and his hips again.
He realised this was probably the last time he'd get to experience this and tried to focus on what Brad would do.
She got into it again and he was going to cum.
She tilted her head back, eyes still closed, and jerked him until he came in and around her mouth.
The whole time he was imagining this is how she would take Brad's cum, he knew she was imagining it too and she looked keen for it.
She pushed his cum onto her lips with her tongue and used her tongue and fingers to get it all into her mouth and swallowed.
He couldn't recall her ever doing this before, it turned him on that his wife was secretly so slutty.
She opened her eyes and it was like reality had hit her and she tried to hide her disappointment.
She got back on the bed and lubed up the dildo with her mouth.
She told him to come and feel how wet she was, he lightly fingered her, she was soaking.
She grabbed him and pulled him down, saying "I meant with your mouth".
He began licking her wet pussy as she sucked Brad's cock, eyes closed again. It was humiliating but he was so turned on by it.
She pushed him away and he watched as the big dildo slipped easily into her soaking wet pussy.
She orgasmed almost straight away and pulled him back down to lick her.
She turned over to doggy position, him still licking her, she pushed him away again and fucked herself while he watched, wishing it was Brad.
She muttered under her breath "how does it feel? how does it feel to watch me get fucked by a real man?".
She asked so quietly that it didn't seem directed at him and he didn't answer.
In her normal volume she eventually told him she wanted him to imagine Brad was cumming in her. She wanted him to lay on his back and he was going to lick her pussy.
He watched her do the same motions as last time, pushing it deep as she came and pumping it gently.
She got on top of him and grinded her pussy against his mouth and tongue, cumming even more quickly and intensely than before.
Under her breath again she muttered, "yes baby, lick his cum from my pussy".
This felt so humiliating but he was so turned on by it. He realised, compared to the blowjob earlier, this felt right, this was what he wanted.
He realised she was sucking the dildo again, she normally refused to taste herself on anything and here she was tasting herself on an inanimate object.
She didn't stop, she kept going until she came again shortly after.
She got off of him and laid on her back, ready to let him make love to her.
He didn't last long, she didn't react with any sexual pleasure but embraced him as he came.
As he pulled out, she told him to lick her again.
He didn't know if she was joking but found himself moving towards her pussy.
She laughed and told him she was joking before realising he would've done it, her laugh changed to an evil grin as she grabbed his head and forced him down on her.
He wasn't horny anymore and didn't enjoy this, just found it deeply humiliating and a bit disgusting, he'd never tasted his own cum before.
She came quickly again and pulled him away before apologising to him.
"I'm so sorry! I didn't mean to make you do that. When it looked like you would actually do it, I couldn't stop myself!".
She wrapped her arms around him, they kissed and cuddled and she continued to apologise for everything.
"You know I love you right? I really do. I don't mean to hurt you but I get these urges, I can't explain them, I feel like such a bitch but I get so turned on by it".
He assured her he wasn't hurt and said it was fun to see her act on her urges. He wasn't ready to admit he was turned on by it.
He tried to ask what urges she gets, she said she couldn't tell him yet, she felt too bad about it.
She said maybe she could show him again next time if he was sure he was ok with it.
He feels like they've turned a corner now, there's no way back from this and to his surprise, it doesn't feel like a bad thing, it's exciting.

Apparently she's been especially loving and affectionate towards him last night and this morning, he feels like they're much closer than before.
He thanks everyone again for the advice, so far they were right and everything feels better now that they're opening up to each other.
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