New developments

[luckyguy3]

They are special moments and the weekend overall went very well. But there is still a lot for all of us to process and sort out. This is all so, so different from Jen’s earlier relationship with my friend Dan. In that case Jen and Dan had known each other and developed loving feelings for one another over a period of many years before they ever became intimate. I knew of their attraction and love for one and actively encouraged Jen to take things to the next level and become physical.

In the current situation Jen and Bart had this rush of an attraction right from the start. I was not part of it at all - in was Jen’s idea to pursue it. Things just seemed to be happening so fast.

Here are some thoughts I shared a few days ago in a PM with another poster on this site who was kind enough to hear me out:

“This is such a deeply personal and complex situation. Many of the posters on OHW seem to focus on the sexual activity, amplified by the taboo breaking behavior of married women (often their own wives) who are exploring these forbidden but thrilling pleasures. I certainly plead guilty to that, I admit to being hugely turned on by Jen being with other men. Reading the honest posts on OHW have helped me to understand this quirk of my own makeup.

But I think for me the really important issues are the emotional ones and the challenges they pose for everyone involved - most especially Jen. What is happening now is so different than anything she has experienced before. In her earlier polyamorous relationship with my former best friend, the loving side of their connection built up during 20 plus years of friendship before they crossed the line and became physical with one another. All three of us had already adjusted to the reality of their very strong emotional connection long before it became physical.

Now everything is different. Jen met Bart on that flight, they exchanged numbers after just a few hours of conversation. She then initiated their first date not long after - and slept with him for the first time that very night.

That was in June. Since then they have managed to get together another half a dozen times, for periods of as long as three days to as short as one overnight. While the sex was good from the start and has only gotten better, it is the growing power of their emotional connection which has been the true hallmark of the relationship this past six months.

Neither of them has spoken the “L” word so far and Jen denies that she is feeling that way - yet. But to me as an
observer it looks like two people who are falling in love with one another. I especially felt it this past weekend. On Saturday morning they came into the house from
the apartment over the garage fairly early in the morning. When I came down from the master bedroom they were sitting side by side at the kitchen table, him in sweats, Jen in a long robe, sipping their coffees while contentedly talking quietly and chuckling with one another. From the look in Jen’s eyes and the rumpled nature of her hair I had no doubt that they had been intimate just moments before. And when I say intimate, I don’t mean just sex but rather real lovemaking. I am sure you understand the difference.

That moment brought up lots of emotions for me - and I think for Jen too. I am not sure either one of us knows 100% how to handle it.

It is hardest for me to understand what is going thru Jen emotionally as she discovers that she has unexpectedly fallen in love with another man while still loving me.”

Jen and I continue to talk about things every day. We will just have to see how this is going to sort out in the long run.”

[8toplaywith]

Sounds like a good situation for everyone right now. Have as much fun with it as you can for as long as you can.
We only live once, so enjoy it. Good luck to you all.

[snoogaloo82]

They are special moments and the weekend overall went very well. But there is still a lot for all of us to process and sort out. This is all so, so different from Jen’s earlier relationship with my friend Dan. In that case Jen and Dan had known each other and developed loving feelings for one another over a period of many years before they ever became intimate. I knew of their attraction and love for one and actively encouraged Jen to take things to the next level and become physical.

In the current situation Jen and Bart had this rush of an attraction right from the start. I was not part of it at all - in was Jen’s idea to pursue it. Things just seemed to be happening so fast.

Here are some thoughts I shared a few days ago in a PM with another poster on this site who was kind enough to hear me out:

“This is such a deeply personal and complex situation. Many of the posters on OHW seem to focus on the sexual activity, amplified by the taboo breaking behavior of married women (often their own wives) who are exploring these forbidden but thrilling pleasures. I certainly plead guilty to that, I admit to being hugely turned on by Jen being with other men. Reading the honest posts on OHW have helped me to understand this quirk of my own makeup.

But I think for me the really important issues are the emotional ones and the challenges they pose for everyone involved - most especially Jen. What is happening now is so different than anything she has experienced before. In her earlier polyamorous relationship with my former best friend, the loving side of their connection built up during 20 plus years of friendship before they crossed the line and became physical with one another. All three of us had already adjusted to the reality of their very strong emotional connection long before it became physical.

Now everything is different. Jen met Bart on that flight, they exchanged numbers after just a few hours of conversation. She then initiated their first date not long after - and slept with him for the first time that very night.

That was in June. Since then they have managed to get together another half a dozen times, for periods of as long as three days to as short as one overnight. While the sex was good from the start and has only gotten better, it is the growing power of their emotional connection which has been the true hallmark of the relationship this past six months.

Neither of them has spoken the “L” word so far and Jen denies that she is feeling that way - yet. But to me as an
observer it looks like two people who are falling in love with one another. I especially felt it this past weekend. On Saturday morning they came into the house from
the apartment over the garage fairly early in the morning. When I came down from the master bedroom they were sitting side by side at the kitchen table, him in sweats, Jen in a long robe, sipping their coffees while contentedly talking quietly and chuckling with one another. From the look in Jen’s eyes and the rumpled nature of her hair I had no doubt that they had been intimate just moments before. And when I say intimate, I don’t mean just sex but rather real lovemaking. I am sure you understand the difference.

That moment brought up lots of emotions for me - and I think for Jen too. I am not sure either one of us knows 100% how to handle it.

It is hardest for me to understand what is going thru Jen emotionally as she discovers that she has unexpectedly fallen in love with another man while still loving me.”

Jen and I continue to talk about things every day. We will just have to see how this is going to sort out in the long run.”

What a wonderful way of saying you think that Jen is now a hotwife. How are you holding up with all of this? Are you okay if she falls in love with him? For me I've told Marion that she can fall in love with Fidel, as long as she doesn't fall out of love with me. Maybe you two should talk with each other and hash things out. Just an idea.

[luckyguy3]

We have talked about it - lots - and are continuing to do so. Right now she is on a three day trip where she is staying with him in his Miami home. One of the things they are doing is planning their own Xmas celebration for later in the month. She gets home tomorrow, I will get updated on all the latest developments then.

[Luis]

More please!

[venus-can99]

Wish you and Jen a very Xmas and a happy fun filled 2024

[edgedndenied]

Hope all is well. Any updates?

[goodjob]

There's no way she isn't in love.

[DLD]

It’s been over a month since the last update and I’m sure there was a lot to unpack and process. Just checking in on you to see how you were doing with everything.

[antidote2909]

Bump

[Guhunkadorn]

I'm as curious about the status here as anyone...Mr. OP....hope all is well.

[DLD]

Any updates? It’s been almost 3 months since the last post from the OP.

[foot69loose]

Hello Luckyguy3,

It has been a while since we have heard from you, I hope all is well.

[DLD]

Any new developments?

[foot69loose]

Hi LG3,

Looking forward to an update from you, I hope all is well.

[goodjob]

He's been on within the last week but he hasn't posted anything since December.

[sandy691196]

1. Jen fell in love with Bart.. that was clear as daylight.. and he with her.

2. The OP and Jen share an old relationship hence there is the alibi of security and comfort. Her proposal would be, since she and OP are very secure and comfortable, she would like to spend longer stretches with Bart since its a new budding relationship. To the extent of moving in for weeks at a time..

3. Jen was Bart's SO and he became her primary man in life. OP got less and less intimacy and time (what with the business schedules + her new affair).

4. At one point OP got uncomfortable with angst. Like he repeated again and again, it was different with his old pal Dan. Here Bart was a new guy, unknown, who owed nothing to him. At some point, he would have offered their marital bed to the new couple, while he moved in to the garage apt, during Bart's stay.

5. When OP expressed his angst to Jen, she would have expressed disappointment and brought up the Deb angle. How she lived with that "angst"..

Things didn't end well either way. If Jen reluctantly broke up with Bart, then she is big time sulking and relationship is iffy now. If OP back tracked and let Jen pursue that intimacy, he is sulking unhappily.

[snoogaloo82]

1. Jen fell in love with Bart.. that was clear as daylight.. and he with her.

2. The OP and Jen share an old relationship hence there is the alibi of security and comfort. Her proposal would be, since she and OP are very secure and comfortable, she would like to spend longer stretches with Bart since its a new budding relationship. To the extent of moving in for weeks at a time..

3. Jen was Bart's SO and he became her primary man in life. OP got less and less intimacy and time (what with the business schedules + her new affair).

4. At one point OP got uncomfortable with angst. Like he repeated again and again, it was different with his old pal Dan. Here Bart was a new guy, unknown, who owed nothing to him. At some point, he would have offered their marital bed to the new couple, while he moved in to the garage apt, during Bart's stay.

5. When OP expressed his angst to Jen, she would have expressed disappointment and brought up the Deb angle. How she lived with that "angst"..

Things didn't end well either way. If Jen reluctantly broke up with Bart, then she is big time sulking and relationship is iffy now. If OP back tracked and let Jen pursue that intimacy, he is sulking unhappily.

It is really is hard when the rules aren't followed, but then again love is a fickle mistress.

[edgedndenied]

Would love an update on where the relationships stand

[Handsome63]

Things didn't end well either way. If Jen reluctantly broke up with Bart, then she is big time sulking and relationship is iffy now. If OP back tracked and let Jen pursue that intimacy, he is sulking unhappily.

It is really is hard when the rules aren't followed, but then again love is a fickle mistress.

This is not 'Nam. This is cuckolding. There are rules!

[D+D]

Things didn't end well either way. If Jen reluctantly broke up with Bart, then she is big time sulking and relationship is iffy now. If OP back tracked and let Jen pursue that intimacy, he is sulking unhappily.

It is really is hard when the rules aren't followed, but then again love is a fickle mistress.

This is not 'Nam. This is cuckolding. There are rules!

And in this lifestyle, rules go out the window when a hotwife falls in love.

[DavaoMike]

Things didn't end well either way. If Jen reluctantly broke up with Bart, then she is big time sulking and relationship is iffy now. If OP back tracked and let Jen pursue that intimacy, he is sulking unhappily.

It is really is hard when the rules aren't followed, but then again love is a fickle mistress.

This is not 'Nam. This is cuckolding. There are rules!

And in this lifestyle, rules go out the window when a hotwife falls in love.

My wife, Maricel, has been deeply in love with her boyfriend for years. We don’t need “rules” because all three of us are very satisfied and my marriage is solid.

DM

[Breakerhymen]

Jen is not in love this is NRE…….

[edgedndenied]

It has been a while since any update. I wonder how the relationships have turned out?