Love watching her humiliated

[SammySigns]

What if it's not at the club?

I'm sure we could work up the specifics of a humiliating situation. It just felt like OP considers it humiliating in the general sense and maybe we need to put some criteria around what the draw is.

This was a million years ago but one time she and her friends were out partying and brought home a couple guys. Her friend fell asleep and one of the guys was trying to get my girlfriend at the time to blow him. She didn't, but I always thought how hot it would be if she did, and even more, if her friend woke up and caught her doing it.

[WatchinginNJ]

Two women in my life liked what I would call "Letting Go".

College girlfriend and I had a lot of threesomes with single guys. One time we were taking a shower together and we found out she liked golden showers. Sitting around relaxing after a session with a single dude, I joked matter-of-factly that she liked golden showers. She flushed red from head to toe, and was like "why would you tell him that?"

I mean, he was just a dude she got done banging after picking him up at a line dancing place? What's the harm from there.

A bit of nudging and I told him to take her to the shower and see for himself. She reluctantly agreed, and they had fun with it. Later she told me that the whole thing was surreal. She was super embarrassed, yet wanted to do it once he knew. For her it was about letting her secret out that she could do that. It became a common thing in our play time after.

The other woman, my longest hotwife experience and most intense came from a lot of things. She was a super type A who is a total "Boss Lady" type. Super smart, highly educated, a master of her field and highly respected. Never got less than an A in any class etc. She was very ambitious, and while I haven't had contact with her in 20+ years, I've seen some occasional things that she has been quite successful.

But all that had a dark side. She hated the anxiety of always feeling like she had to be the best or get the best marks. Plus she was a typical book worm / nerdy girl. She was more of a "Diane Chambers" type (she had more than a passing resemblance to her, including small boobs), as opposed to a Pam Anderson type, and I don't think that she came into her body and style until grad school.

When we started down the hotwife path, it was prompted by an exhibitionist streak she had. I brought her to a nude beach. It was a huge fight after. Her insecurity and me surprising her with it turned into a major row. But somewhere in that, she kept telling me, there's no way I can do that, it would be so embarrassing. But then the next weekend she was like, "Well, I guess you're going to make me go there again?" Even though I didn't want that fight again, she kept asking if I was going to take her. It dawned on me, she wants to go. She did the same thing at the beach. "Well, are you going to make me go topless even though I have small boobs?" I told her to get undressed and she did, all while saying "I can't believe you're making me do this"

That evolved eventually into her basically taking a pretty passive roll in the whole thing. Some deep pillow talk as we progressed she basically admitted, she like the loss of control because her whole life is about being in control. She said its so much easier to do those things when she felt it wasn't her decision. We did the exhibitionism thing and it came out about her stranger fantasy. Again, she was like "I could never do it", but once I told her to? She was full speed ahead. She loved the fact that she was this prim and proper professional yet had this hidden side that would sleep with a guy minutes after meeting him.

[NorthOpen]

Two women in my life liked what I would call "Letting Go".

College girlfriend and I had a lot of threesomes with single guys. One time we were taking a shower together and we found out she liked golden showers. Sitting around relaxing after a session with a single dude, I joked matter-of-factly that she liked golden showers. She flushed red from head to toe, and was like "why would you tell him that?"

I mean, he was just a dude she got done banging after picking him up at a line dancing place? What's the harm from there.

A bit of nudging and I told him to take her to the shower and see for himself. She reluctantly agreed, and they had fun with it. Later she told me that the whole thing was surreal. She was super embarrassed, yet wanted to do it once he knew. For her it was about letting her secret out that she could do that. It became a common thing in our play time after.

The other woman, my longest hotwife experience and most intense came from a lot of things. She was a super type A who is a total "Boss Lady" type. Super smart, highly educated, a master of her field and highly respected. Never got less than an A in any class etc. She was very ambitious, and while I haven't had contact with her in 20+ years, I've seen some occasional things that she has been quite successful.

But all that had a dark side. She hated the anxiety of always feeling like she had to be the best or get the best marks. Plus she was a typical book worm / nerdy girl. She was more of a "Diane Chambers" type (she had more than a passing resemblance to her, including small boobs), as opposed to a Pam Anderson type, and I don't think that she came into her body and style until grad school.

When we started down the hotwife path, it was prompted by an exhibitionist streak she had. I brought her to a nude beach. It was a huge fight after. Her insecurity and me surprising her with it turned into a major row. But somewhere in that, she kept telling me, there's no way I can do that, it would be so embarrassing. But then the next weekend she was like, "Well, I guess you're going to make me go there again?" Even though I didn't want that fight again, she kept asking if I was going to take her. It dawned on me, she wants to go. She did the same thing at the beach. "Well, are you going to make me go topless even though I have small boobs?" I told her to get undressed and she did, all while saying "I can't believe you're making me do this"

That evolved eventually into her basically taking a pretty passive roll in the whole thing. Some deep pillow talk as we progressed she basically admitted, she like the loss of control because her whole life is about being in control. She said its so much easier to do those things when she felt it wasn't her decision. We did the exhibitionism thing and it came out about her stranger fantasy. Again, she was like "I could never do it", but once I told her to? She was full speed ahead. She loved the fact that she was this prim and proper professional yet had this hidden side that would sleep with a guy minutes after meeting him.

I had a similar experience years ago: I dated a a super successful executive in the film and television industry who specialized in the legal end of things... Professionally she was an absolute dominant, stone-cold, razor sharp bitch... But as soon as we got naked she turned into a total submissive who loved nothing better than being humiliated in every conceivable way. She said the same thing: I am responsible for so many demanding decisions all day everyday, I just love the release that comes with "letting go". Go figure.

[SensualDeviant]

I had a similar experience years ago: I dated a a super successful executive in the film and television industry who specialized in the legal end of things... Professionally she was an absolute dominant, stone-cold, razor sharp bitch... But as soon as we got naked she turned into a total submissive who loved nothing better than being humiliated in every conceivable way. She said the same thing: I am responsible for so many demanding decisions all day everyday, I just love the release that comes with "letting go". Go figure.

I've heard that from others before, but I prefer women who are naturally submissive in most or all areas of life, not one who is dominant but likes to let go.

[frank12]

Yep, that's quite understandable SD, and there are so many women who really only feel truly comfortable when they can be their submissive selves. The ones like NorthOpen encountered are quite different. I've known and enjoyed women near both of the ends of that spectrum. There were some early experiences with two women who were definitely the "all prim and proper and in-charge" to most of the world but willing and eager to have their submissiveness be "released" in private - and I've thoroughly enjoyed others who could barely tolerate men who did not have that sense of assured control - comfortable only when expressing a submissive side. Most, of course, are somewhere in between I think.

Overall, I prefer indulging the submissive fantasies of the ones who are smart and sharp of mind, and that has only a small correlation with formal education or with either end of the aforementioned spectrum. Whether a PhD, CEO, nurse, teacher or the classic stay at home wife and mom type, when they enjoy offering themselves up to "embarrassments" "humiliations" or other forms of submission the sharper, creative minds are the most fun as playmates and taking the time to discover just exactly which buttons to push to take her there is a rewarded pleasure.

[SensualDeviant]

There were some early experiences with two women who were definitely the "all prim and proper and in-charge" to most of the world but willing and eager to have their submissiveness be "released" in private...

Still not my kink.

Overall, I prefer indulging the submissive fantasies of the ones who are smart and sharp of mind...

Submissiveness is not inversely correlated with either learnedness or intelligence.

[SammySigns]

In porn it is pretty popular for guys to finish on a girl's face or in her mouth. Is that because people like to watch a woman degraded or humiliated?

[WatchinginNJ]

There were some early experiences with two women who were definitely the "all prim and proper and in-charge" to most of the world but willing and eager to have their submissiveness be "released" in private...

Still not my kink.

Overall, I prefer indulging the submissive fantasies of the ones who are smart and sharp of mind...

Submissiveness is not inversely correlated with either learnedness or intelligence.

I whole heartedly agree. But I'd add the caveat from my own anecdotal examples that intelligence did play a huge roll in its execution.

The college girlfriend I spoke of? She was fun and liked to party. She struggled as an average student in school. But for her, the experience was simple. She liked being "nasty". There were no head games.

The "Doctor" girlfriend? Well her's was just as much about the emotional turmoil and path to it, as it was about the submission in progress. In BDSM terms, a lot of the scene was the ramp up to the sex acts. She would question it, doubt it, etc. But once you told her, "Just sit back and relax, and let it happen" she would become an active participant. I think that was her getting into the right headspace.

[SensualDeviant]

In porn it is pretty popular for guys to finish on a girl's face or in her mouth. Is that because people like to watch a woman degraded or humiliated?

A driving factor is the proof that the man has ejaculated. Even when he cums in her mouth, she often shows it to the camera before swallowing.

I've never known a woman who sincerely liked having a man cum on her face. It's difficult to clean and stings the eyes. Humiliation does not mean the Dom disregards the desires of the submissive. He is in charge to create a mutually satisfying, albeit asymmetrical, experience.

[frank12]

In porn it is pretty popular for guys to finish on a girl's face or in her mouth. Is that because people like to watch a woman degraded or humiliated?

I'd say that many things one sees in porn are there not because they are in much of reality but for performative effect - developed for what an audience expects to see rather than what very many might actually do. As SD points out its more to "prove" ejaculation - but real participants in real life -and even observing husbands - need no similar proof to overcome the limits of cinematography production and the doubts some viewers may have. Beyond that there are untold variations of things viewers wish to imagine.

WNG also captures some of the significant differences between imagined situations and the actual realities:

The "Doctor" girlfriend? Well her's was just as much about the emotional turmoil and path to it, as it was about the submission in progress. In BDSM terms, a lot of the scene was the ramp up to the sex acts. She would question it, doubt it, etc. But once you told her, "Just sit back and relax, and let it happen" she would become an active participant. I think that was her getting into the right headspace.

That "path to it" is a good way to express what I've found I enjoy as much in preparing for playing the "embarrassment" or "humiliation" games with a woman who understands her submissiveness as I do playing out and exploring the scene. Taking the time to find out what her sensitivities are, where things are erotically edgy or exciting for her, and understanding where NOT to take things, and in particular talking through these buttons to push even as she is getting into that headspace. Those in the BDSM scene more clinically refer to this as the "negotiation" particularly where people might play together with little previous familiarity, but it happens also with a familiar playmate with whom one enjoys those occasional playtimes as well, since sometimes the scene visits different areas.

On some occasions it has been even more revealing of a woman's inner kinks to enjoy the afterglow combined with something of a debrief. Couples more often enjoy that pillow talk when they've returned home but some women enjoy post-scene analysis. Talking together about which embarrassments she found most erotic and what she really wished there had been more of can be eye opening for both of us. Looking through and discussing those all too rare but sometimes available photos or video clips of predicaments and exposures I captured during the scene is a bit of a trip all in itself.

[blancpain95139]

My little wife is candid, witty and outspoken. Sexually speaking, she’s multi-orgasmic and very vocal. I felt something was wrong with me because I love seeing her get put into place. I remember her ribbing a young FB about being a country boy. She joked about him good in bed because he “practiced” with farm animals. After one too many jokes the guy chased after my wife. (It was all in a playful manner of course.) He ripped her from my arms when she ran to me for protection. Threw her onto the bed, bent her over and grudge fuck the living daylights out of her. The guy made my wife apologize for all the things she said. When she apologized he roughly pushed her head, face first, into the mattress and grudge fucked her again. My wife looked relieved but somewhat disappointed when the guy abruptly stopped. My wife playfully cursed me out for not rescuing her from the guy. But, that’s when I realize how much I love seeing her humiliated. She has a strong outgoing personality. It’s only right that I would love seeing humiliated.

This is HOT, HOT!

[sw6]

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[sw6]

"I've never known a woman who sincerely liked having a man cum on her face. ."

The most submissive woman I have ever been with, once I came on her face didn't want it wiped off so she could see what it felt like and what it looked like when she got home
Then the next time I was with her I didn't come on her face and she later said she was disappointed because she thought I expected to do do that
I MFMed with her and we both came on her face back to back and he handed her a towel which I should have told her not to use, showing him what she'd do for me

[SammySigns]

In porn it is pretty popular for guys to finish on a girl's face or in her mouth. Is that because people like to watch a woman degraded or humiliated?

I've never known a woman who sincerely liked having a man cum on her face. It's difficult to clean and stings the eyes. Humiliation does not mean the Dom disregards the desires of the submissive. He is in charge to create a mutually satisfying, albeit asymmetrical, experience.

I mean...yeah. It's not something most girls actively seek out. Which is what makes it hot - she is letting him do what he wants for his pleasure.

[SensualDeviant]

In porn it is pretty popular for guys to finish on a girl's face or in her mouth. Is that because people like to watch a woman degraded or humiliated?

I've never known a woman who sincerely liked having a man cum on her face. It's difficult to clean and stings the eyes. Humiliation does not mean the Dom disregards the desires of the submissive. He is in charge to create a mutually satisfying, albeit asymmetrical, experience.

I mean...yeah. It's not something most girls actively seek out. Which is what makes it hot - she is letting him do what he wants for his pleasure.

I prefer it when women like what I like because they like it, not suffering through something they don't like in order to please me.

It echoes and reverberates in ever-increasing intensity: they want what I want which is what they want which is what I want... A woman whose kinks naturally match will reverberate like that, but the effect is lost if a woman is only doing an activity for no other reason than to please.

That's probably the basis of my kink in wife sharing, MFM, gangbang, etc: I feed off her sexual energy, returning it back to her, which is reflected back to me/us, etc.

All that said, I prefer to cum in a woman, except in certain circumstances. A slut walk with cum on her face or running down her legs or rubbed into her skin so that other people can smell it (or she believes others can smell it) is admittedly hot, as long as she also intrinsically finds it hot.

[bltn1966]

My Army vet wife Marie and a Marine vet have a playful sexually combative relationship. My wife would talk trash about the Marines and he would do the same about the Army. When they have sex the Marine mocks my wife by yelling “Semper Fi” every time he makes her cum. Marie sheepishly told me he was great in bed but she will never tell him that.

One time when we saw the Marine when we were hanging out with a bunch of our friends. Marie started putting down the Marines again. He reminded Marie, in front of her friends, that he destroyed her in bed the last time she talked shit to him. Trying to save face Marie hilariously claimed she faked her orgasms. She told her friends she did it because she felt sorry for him because he wasn’t good in bed. The Marine humiliated her when he said “how do you fake squirting?” Marie turned red and playfully hid her face in shame when he joked about using a squeegee to wipe down his walls. Even my wife had to laugh at his exaggeration. That didn’t stop her from talking shit to him. I personally think she’s trying to get him revved up for another round.

[SammySigns]

My Army vet wife Marie and a Marine vet have a playful sexually combative relationship. My wife would talk trash about the Marines and he would do the same about the Army. When they have sex the Marine mocks my wife by yelling “Semper Fi” every time he makes her cum. Marie sheepishly told me he was great in bed but she will never tell him that.

One time when we saw the Marine when we were hanging out with a bunch of our friends. Marie started putting down the Marines again. He reminded Marie, in front of her friends, that he destroyed her in bed the last time she talked shit to him. Trying to save face Marie hilariously claimed she faked her orgasms. She told her friends she did it because she felt sorry for him because he wasn’t good in bed. The Marine humiliated her when he said “how do you fake squirting?” Marie turned red and playfully hid her face in shame when he joked about using a squeegee to wipe down his walls. Even my wife had to laugh at his exaggeration. That didn’t stop her from talking shit to him. I personally think she’s trying to get him revved up for another round.

That's hot! Sometimes I talk shit to my wife but haven't seen her talking shit and then get plowed. But I'd like to!

[SensualDeviant]

That's hot! Sometimes I talk shit to my wife but haven't seen her talking shit and then get plowed. But I'd like to!

I once knew a woman who tried to lure dominant men by claiming she was submissive, when in reality she was a switch. She was also psychopathic and obsessed about her love interests.

The game she liked to play was to take turns abusing each other. She kept trying to get me to play with her and even tried stalking me. I wanted nothing at all to do with or her craziness. I cut her out of my life and then stayed far away (and warned others about her too.)

[bltn1966]

My Army vet wife Marie and a Marine vet have a playful sexually combative relationship. My wife would talk trash about the Marines and he would do the same about the Army. When they have sex the Marine mocks my wife by yelling “Semper Fi” every time he makes her cum. Marie sheepishly told me he was great in bed but she will never tell him that.

One time when we saw the Marine when we were hanging out with a bunch of our friends. Marie started putting down the Marines again. He reminded Marie, in front of her friends, that he destroyed her in bed the last time she talked shit to him. Trying to save face Marie hilariously claimed she faked her orgasms. She told her friends she did it because she felt sorry for him because he wasn’t good in bed. The Marine humiliated her when he said “how do you fake squirting?” Marie turned red and playfully hid her face in shame when he joked about using a squeegee to wipe down his walls. Even my wife had to laugh at his exaggeration. That didn’t stop her from talking shit to him. I personally think she’s trying to get him revved up for another round.

That's hot! Sometimes I talk shit to my wife but haven't seen her talking shit and then get plowed. But I'd like to!

I think Marie talk shit to guys to motivate them in bed. She told the marine about the two times she had terrible sex with guys. One was a black Marine. The other was a white guy on college. She surmised he would be terrible in bed because he was white and a Marine. Boy, did he prove her wrong.

She once told an older gentleman to slow down before he have a heart attack. The guy didn’t think it was to funny. He trapped her legs on his shoulder and took her to pound town for the next half hour. When he was finish my wife was so wore out within a few minutes she fell asleep. We all laughed at her when she finally woke up from her short nap.

[amerus]

I wouldn't call it humiliation per se, but I frequently imagine of my wife wanting to do a public fuck where people are free to enter or leave the room. I also imagine her readily agreeing to things she wouldn't do with me, such as anal or DP because she is feeling feral and wants it.

[SammySigns]

I wouldn't call it humiliation per se, but I frequently imagine of my wife wanting to do a public fuck where people are free to enter or leave the room. I also imagine her readily agreeing to things she wouldn't do with me, such as anal or DP because she is feeling feral and wants it.

Oh yeah nothing hotter than when she wants it so bad she loses all her rules. She hasn't done anal but did let a couple guys raw dog her, which is so hot.