How to open the gate?

[Jonjones1529]

TLDR: wife likes large size, how to open cuckolding conversation

Last night I was going down on my wife and using fingers. She had just gotten back from a business trip so I was fantasizing about her being with another man while she had been gone and decided to test boundaries a bit.


I upped it to 3 fingers inside her which I had done before but they went in easily so I expanders to 4. She loved it, moaned like I never hear during sex.

After having sec she mentioned that she liked what I did with my hands, she said it hurt but felt good.

Her ex had a significantly larger penis than I do, so I've always thought about her with something bigger. Even though she always tells me it was too much.

After hearing her first hand with knowing she likes to be filled it makes me want to attempt to open the cuckolding door. It's always been a fantasy, how could I introduce my wife to the idea?

Would it be best to start buying larger toys to show her what she could have? Or should a conversation but be had up front?

[armyguyot1]

Welcome to the forum JonJones1529.

[trecital]

Would it be best to start buying larger toys to show her what she could have? Or should a conversation but be had up front?

The larger toy idea is a bit vague as a step towards cuckolding. Unless you specifically start to mention it when using the toy.

The conversation idea, in my opinion, is better. But you might be best introducing the idea step by step. That way you can gauge reaction, as you go, and tailor the next step accordingly. Don't try and push things too quickly. Remember, you've maybe had this idea fermenting for months, maybe years. You can't realistically expect your partner to come up to your speed all in one go. Patience is required.

[Bent_n_Twisted]

After hearing her first hand with knowing she likes to be filled it makes me want to attempt to open the cuckolding door. It's always been a fantasy, how could I introduce my wife to the idea?

Would it be best to start buying larger toys to show her what she could have? Or should a conversation but be had up front?

I'd start with toys. After using them for some time, maybe days or weeks, I'd start mentioning something along the lines of "I love seeing you get fucked with this." Gradually move on to something like "You look fantastic with a big cock fucking you/your pussy."

Depending on her, it could take weeks, months, or more, but give her time to let her make the association with 'cock' and become comfortable with it. She might make the association with 'real' cocks herself and start thinking about it. If not, a casual mention/question of 'What would it be like with a real cock'...and then let it go, don't push it.


That's what got *my* wife started down the path of thinking about fucking others- I was using a big vibrator in her pussy while she played with my swollen [caged] cock and, all of a sudden, she said "You like watching me get fucked, don't you?"

Without thinking, I said "Yes." And it was true, I got a sudden picture in my mind of a *real* cock, that was not mine, in her pussy...and though I was too embarrassed to admit it at the time, the idea excited me.

I didn't push the issue right then, but over the span of a few years the idea came up more and more often while we were playing, until it got to the point of her describing how she wanted to make me watch while multiple 'boys' or 'boyfriends' fucked her, and even to her dreaming about it.

Don't rush it. While there might be some women who would jump at the idea, others might resist if pushed. Be guided by her receptiveness to it, let her become comfortable with the idea until she 'owns' it.

[Gearup]

try fisting her & talking about her enjoying getting stretched & filled as you fuck her. That conversation has many natural entry points to discuss you watching her get fucked. when the mood is right plant the seed & let her imagination and sexual desire do all the hard work.

[Jonjones1529]

I'd start with toys. After using them for some time, maybe days or weeks, I'd start mentioning something along the lines of "I love seeing you get fucked with this." Gradually move on to something like "You look fantastic with a big cock fucking you/your pussy."

She has a large dildo from before we were married that's stored somewhere, I'll see if I can bring that into the mix.

[Jonjones1529]

try fisting her & talking about her enjoying getting stretched & filled as you fuck her. That conversation has many natural entry points to discuss you watching her get fucked. when the mood is right plant the seed & let her imagination and sexual desire do all the hard work.

I definitely want to try to fist her. Just not sure if I'd be able to.

[sana9889]

You may need to stop having sex with her using your dick too.

[isinlarsa]

Did in occur to you, when you were able to easily side three fingers and then four in her cunt, that she might have gotten a little stretched while on her trip?

[Jonjones1529]

Did in occur to you, when you were able to easily side three fingers and then four in her cunt, that she might have gotten a little stretched while on her trip?

It actually did occur to me. I think that's what really is making me think about it more. Also the fact that with just sex we had to use a vibrator to make her cum.

[hornedhubby]

I don't agree with trying to use your fist, especially at this stage. But the larger dildo is worth an offer.

I agree with trecital about taking an incremental approach to conversation on this subject. Do not, for instance, decide to lay your whole kink out there for her in a long and detailed statement or confession. I've made this mistake more than once. Ask questions or make short statements and then wait for her answer. WFA. WFA. This way you can clarify and/or abort the conversation if it starts to develop badly.

Best luck

[philxxo]

After hearing her first hand with knowing she likes to be filled it makes me want to attempt to open the cuckolding door. It's always been a fantasy, how could I introduce my wife to the idea?

Would it be best to start buying larger toys to show her what she could have? Or should a conversation but be had up front?

I'd start with toys. After using them for some time, maybe days or weeks, I'd start mentioning something along the lines of "I love seeing you get fucked with this." Gradually move on to something like "You look fantastic with a big cock fucking you/your pussy."

Depending on her, it could take weeks, months, or more, but give her time to let her make the association with 'cock' and become comfortable with it. She might make the association with 'real' cocks herself and start thinking about it. If not, a casual mention/question of 'What would it be like with a real cock'...and then let it go, don't push it.


That's what got *my* wife started down the path of thinking about fucking others- I was using a big vibrator in her pussy while she played with my swollen [caged] cock and, all of a sudden, she said "You like watching me get fucked, don't you?"

Without thinking, I said "Yes." And it was true, I got a sudden picture in my mind of a *real* cock, that was not mine, in her pussy...and though I was too embarrassed to admit it at the time, the idea excited me.

I didn't push the issue right then, but over the span of a few years the idea came up more and more often while we were playing, until it got to the point of her describing how she wanted to make me watch while multiple 'boys' or 'boyfriends' fucked her, and even to her dreaming about it.

Don't rush it. While there might be some women who would jump at the idea, others might resist if pushed. Be guided by her receptiveness to it, let her become comfortable with the idea until she 'owns' it.

Listen to this. What he said. This is some good advice here. This is really a waiting game for most of us. Plot a careful path. Don't ever rush it to the point that you scare her off, she she just digs her heels in and says no not ever. Be patient.

[isinlarsa]

Did in occur to you, when you were able to easily side three fingers and then four in her cunt, that she might have gotten a little stretched while on her trip?

It actually did occur to me. I think that's what really is making me think about it more. Also the fact that with just sex we had to use a vibrator to make her cum.

Over time did she return to her "normal" state of tightness? That might be another clue, unless you kept her stretched with your fingers or a dildo. How do you feel thinking that she might have gotten fucked on her trip?

[Jonjones1529]

Over time did she return to her "normal" state of tightness? That might be another clue, unless you kept her stretched with your fingers or a dildo. How do you feel thinking that she might have gotten fucked on her trip?

This was just the other day so I haven't noticed if she's tightened up yet. Thinking about her getting fucked while she was out of town drives me crazy, in a good way. She had talked about making a guy friend there but I don't think she would actually cheat. It's extremely hot to think about though.

[isinlarsa]

Over time did she return to her "normal" state of tightness? That might be another clue, unless you kept her stretched with your fingers or a dildo. How do you feel thinking that she might have gotten fucked on her trip?

This was just the other day so I haven't noticed if she's tightened up yet. Thinking about her getting fucked while she was out of town drives me crazy, in a good way. She had talked about making a guy friend there but I don't think she would actually cheat. It's extremely hot to think about though.

Have you given her reason to think that she might have a free pass, so that if the right guy came alone she might jump into bed with him? Interesting that she apparently made a point of telling you she made a guy friend on her trip. Has that ever happened before? Telling you about making a guy friend might be the first step in preparing for the truth that she did get fucked.

[Jonjones1529]

Over time did she return to her "normal" state of tightness? That might be another clue, unless you kept her stretched with your fingers or a dildo. How do you feel thinking that she might have gotten fucked on her trip?

This was just the other day so I haven't noticed if she's tightened up yet. Thinking about her getting fucked while she was out of town drives me crazy, in a good way. She had talked about making a guy friend there but I don't think she would actually cheat. It's extremely hot to think about though.

Have you given her reason to think that she might have a free pass, so that if the right guy came alone she might jump into bed with him? Interesting that she apparently made a point of telling you she made a guy friend on her trip. Has that ever happened before? Telling you about making a guy friend might be the first step in preparing for the truth that she did get fucked.

No we've never had any conversations before about free passes or anything. As for her trip not really, she just mentioned making a friend told me how they discussed fertility issues that we've had and h and his spouse are experiencing. Only other time she's really discussed another man was someone she thought was interested in her while I was out of town for work. I didn't take it seriously because the guy didn't look like a threat to our relationship.

[Jonjones1529]

Over time did she return to her "normal" state of tightness? That might be another clue, unless you kept her stretched with your fingers or a dildo. How do you feel thinking that she might have gotten fucked on her trip?

This was just the other day so I haven't noticed if she's tightened up yet. Thinking about her getting fucked while she was out of town drives me crazy, in a good way. She had talked about making a guy friend there but I don't think she would actually cheat. It's extremely hot to think about though.

Have you given her reason to think that she might have a free pass, so that if the right guy came alone she might jump into bed with him? Interesting that she apparently made a point of telling you she made a guy friend on her trip. Has that ever happened before? Telling you about making a guy friend might be the first step in preparing for the truth that she did get fucked.

Is there any advise you could give to lead the conversation down the road to finding out if she was fucked by him?

[Jonjones1529]

Did in occur to you, when you were able to easily side three fingers and then four in her cunt, that she might have gotten a little stretched while on her trip?

It actually did occur to me. I think that's what really is making me think about it more. Also the fact that with just sex we had to use a vibrator to make her cum.

Over time did she return to her "normal" state of tightness? That might be another clue, unless you kept her stretched with your fingers or a dildo. How do you feel thinking that she might have gotten fucked on her trip?

It's been a few weeks but finally had sex again. Things did seem to tighten up but could just be a coincidence.

[aztd]

I'd start with toys. After using them for some time, maybe days or weeks, I'd start mentioning something along the lines of "I love seeing you get fucked with this." Gradually move on to something like "You look fantastic with a big cock fucking you/your pussy."

She has a large dildo from before we were married that's stored somewhere, I'll see if I can bring that into the mix.

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[Flcuck4herand]

Definitely good advise here. I especially agree with the slow approach. It took me years and then bam she was ready. I'd be happy to tell the story if you'd like.

[Zekemitchell]

I am also a wannabe, but have had some progress with toys. I purchased her some very large dildos. One specifically was molded after a porn star called Shane diesel. Anyways, we talk about Shane as if he is a real person, and since fucking Shane she has really opened up to the cuck fantasy of mine. Orgasms are the best she has ever had and she tells me she can’t cum on me anymore, only Shane lol.

[wannabecUKold]

Take it slowly and don't scare her off, but if she goes on lots of trips (and you don't), then you might be able to teasingly bring into the conversation the idea that it's not the end of the world for you if she has some casual sex while she is away. Tell her you are quite turned on by the idea. Show her how much. Start some fantasies around the concept. (Tell her you imagine her in her business suit with her tight skirt hitched up... etc etc) See if she takes the bait.
The point here is that you are not making a formal request, just having some fantasy fun, ask her to join you in it.

[BBWcuckold]

Over time did she return to her "normal" state of tightness? That might be another clue, unless you kept her stretched with your fingers or a dildo. How do you feel thinking that she might have gotten fucked on her trip?

This was just the other day so I haven't noticed if she's tightened up yet. Thinking about her getting fucked while she was out of town drives me crazy, in a good way. She had talked about making a guy friend there but I don't think she would actually cheat. It's extremely hot to think about though.

We went to Orlando once for a wife’s work trip, and she went out with some work related friends after the conference and i stayed in the room with the kids. Around 3am she posted a pic with some guys arm around her shoulder(turns out to be a sales rep that her company deals with) with a caption along the lines of “making new friends at the conference!”. My wife rarely parties so for her to be out that late is extremely rare. I know nothing happened but I’m pretty sure I had an erection the rest of the night wondering if anything was going on. Sigh…

[Jonjones1529]

Definitely good advise here. I especially agree with the slow approach. It took me years and then bam she was ready. I'd be happy to tell the story if you'd like.

Sure do tell.

And I agree all the advice sounds good. Just need to build the courage.