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I told my fantasy to my girlfriend a little over a year ago, you read more about it in the hotwife section (wrong section, I know, since I'm still a wannabe) : viewtopic.php?f=5&t=65809
My girlfriend has been open about sharing her but she has never been very talkative about, every time I brought it up she said it would be hot to fuck another man but she couldn't really understand why I wanted her to do that, she feared that it could ruin the relationship. I reassured her every time, I told her I get more turned on the more she gets pleasure and I find hot that other guys get excited because of her, I don't want to lose her, I want her to enjoy sex, that's all.
Recently we bought a dildo and we now use it everytime we have sex, yesterday we tried dp, dildo in her pussy and my cock in her ass and I asked her:
Me: "How good is it to take two cocks, one in your pussy and one in your ass?"
Her: "It's awesome to take two cocks, on in my pussy and one in my ass."
Yesterday evening she started asking questions about sex and a bit about my past experiences, she never did that before but I just answered honestly. Then she asked:
Her: "Would you want me to sleep with another man?"
Me: "You know it turns me on."
Her: "I want to do it if you are ok with it."
We talked about how she would like to do it and she said she would like me to be there and partecipate if I want to.
She has more doubts about how to find the third, she wants someone she is sure she won't catch feelings for, her best choice would be her ex fwb, with whom she had the perfect sexual chemistry, but he lives abroad. If it's not him she would prefer someone random, she said that it would be hot to try to seduce someone she likes in public, get to know him a little bit and, if she really likes him, fuck him the same day. I told her she can do that with dating apps as well but she doesn't want to spend a long time swiping and chatting but maybe maybe she can give it a try.
She has never seduced someone, she has never taken the first step with a man but she is open to try it. We fantasized a bit to do it the next time we go to the beach but let's see. Where to go from here?
I think we should talk more about expectations I don't want her to have too many expectations so she will end up not liking it.
Besides that I'm very very happy that we got to the stage where she wants to start looking for another guy.

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Sound promising. Something that may help is if you ask he she would like a girls night out once and a while, this gives her a chance to amp up her flirting game and get comfortable chatting with other guys again.

Just as you wouldn't throw dry pasta into a pot of cold water, do not leave the realm of sex fantasy until she is absolutely ready to step into reality. Listen carefully to what she says about being shared, as her utterances reveal her deepest desires. Above all, make sure she feels safe and loved. Paradoxically enough, adding another man to your bed should be seen as a sex act between you and her, almost as if the other man were just a living dildo.

Dude, you are there! How exciting. I am envious. It's funny how women say "no", then the next thing you know its brought up again in conversation later somehow. It's been marinating all this time. My wife knows my desires, and says no. Then once in a while she brings it back up. Seemingly to test my reactions I think. Recently we were talking about a business opportunity. She said she would help me with it however. Then she says rhetorically "what could I do"? Then she answers her own question with "I could fuck the businessmen so we could get the contracts." Of course that sends me over the edge. She still says no, but she likes turning me on with it I think.

You will have to keep us informed and let us know how it goes.

My former wife (I am a has been that is now a wannabe) made similar strides. It finally went over the edge when she went on a ski vacation. Destination resorts are a target rich environment for women... lots of young sensation-seeking men. If she goes to an apres-ski bar, she will most likely get hit on... then she does not have to worry about doing the seducing.

mfm4bnc wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:28 am

...If she goes to an apres-ski bar, she will most likely get hit on... then she does not have to worry about doing the seducing.

Very true! That brought back old memories of Aspen before I was married. Two weeks of hot nights with several very hot married women!

Do you two prefer that she plays alone or both of you together? If its both of you together, perhaps you can take the lead and pre-select guys she might like. That's kind of how things started with Shelley and myself. Shelly is naturally shy.

Our first guy we found together through online ads and she made the choice. The next few after that we're "blindfold surprises" I arranged for her. One of those blind date guys ended up being her fuck buddy for the following 12 years.

Greg_N_Shelley wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:40 pm

Do you two prefer that she plays alone or both of you together? If its both of you together, perhaps you can take the lead and pre-select guys she might like. That's kind of how things started with Shelley and myself. Shelly is naturally shy.

Our first guy we found together through online ads and she made the choice. The next few after that we're "blindfold surprises" I arranged for her. One of those blind date guys ended up being her fuck buddy for the following 12 years.

That’s amazing! A 12 year fuck buddy and still going strong. How frequently do they get together?

Last year: "We can do it if you want"
Now: "I want to do it if you are OK with it."

She WANTS to do it. She is keen. Don't hang about. I suggest you find a handsome male escort who can give her a massage and more. Then you are in full control and you can talk through with him what you want. Book a quality hotel and make an evening of it - one that works for you two as a couple however the massage goes.

runaway wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:23 am

Greg_N_Shelley wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:40 pm

Do you two prefer that she plays alone or both of you together? If its both of you together, perhaps you can take the lead and pre-select guys she might like. That's kind of how things started with Shelley and myself. Shelly is naturally shy.

Our first guy we found together through online ads and she made the choice. The next few after that we're "blindfold surprises" I arranged for her. One of those blind date guys ended up being her fuck buddy for the following 12 years.

That’s amazing! A 12 year fuck buddy and still going strong. How frequently do they get together?

That era ended a few years back. Shelley is retired as a hotwife now. Back when we were playing with him, it was normally 2-3 time per year. For us, hotwifing wasn't a daily part of our lifestyle. An occasional walk on the wild side, or vacation periodically from the norm.

Hi, just a little update.
We haven't talked about sex with other men recently but we use the dildo almost everytime we have sex, half of the times she ends up cumming with the dildo in her pussy and my cock in her ass.
She started to tease me a little about how big the dildo is and how great it feels. Last time we used it she said the dildo would be a perfect cock if only it was warm like a real one, I read that you can heat sylicon dildos with hot water so I think I'll do it next time.
She loves when I give her a massage and when I do I always end up rimming her and using the dildo and maybe my cock if she wants it, otherwise I make her come with the dildo and the vibrator and then we go to sleep.
Last but not least she told one of her coworker is flirting with her when they work together, they work together just once a week if not less so it's not happening everyday. She says that she doesn't really like him but she likes being desired by another person.
I feel like it's the right time to have another discussion.

I think I'd try to find out what " doesn't really like him means". Does that mean she doesn't find him attractive, doesn't like his personality, or is not someone she has thought about in that way?

Since she admits to liking the attention, I think I would encourage her to subtlety flirt back to see how he reacts - throw him a little bone if you will. It would be interesting to see if that will cause hum to bump it up a notch. Plus, it would be a fun way for her to practice and get more attention.

Freddy314 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:31 am

I think I'd try to find out what " doesn't really like him means". Does that mean she doesn't find him attractive, doesn't like his personality, or is not someone she has thought about in that way?

Since she admits to liking the attention, I think I would encourage her to subtlety flirt back to see how he reacts - throw him a little bone if you will. It would be interesting to see if that will cause hum to bump it up a notch. Plus, it would be a fun way for her to practice and get more attention.

MR - F314 I believe is on the money.

Freddy314 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:31 am

I think I'd try to find out what " doesn't really like him means". Does that mean she doesn't find him attractive, doesn't like his personality, or is not someone she has thought about in that way?

Since she admits to liking the attention, I think I would encourage her to subtlety flirt back to see how he reacts - throw him a little bone if you will. It would be interesting to see if that will cause hum to bump it up a notch. Plus, it would be a fun way for her to practice and giet more attention.

You are right, I need to ask her about him, she told she doesn't really like how he flirts, so maybe she doesn't like his personality.
Last time they worked together (and the first time she told me about him), he put a fake spider on her shoulder and when she found out she was thinking how childish this man was, she didn't find it funny.
Maybe she liked it but she told me a different story to test the waters and see how I would react. I asked if he liked him and she said no but she liked the attention. So I think she is being honest but I will bring this up during our talk. She could just flirt back little just to practice as you said.

muchred wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:17 am

she said the dildo would be a perfect cock if only it was warm like a real one

Does this sound to anyone else like a strong hint?

Have you considered that maybe she's telling you she's nearly ready for a real one? Or at least escalating the fantasy talk a notch?

leggysman wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:03 pm

muchred wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:17 am

she said the dildo would be a perfect cock if only it was warm like a real one

Does this sound to anyone else like a strong hint?

Have you considered that maybe she's telling you she's nearly ready for a real one? Or at least escalating the fantasy talk a notch?

Ahahah, you are right, the fantasy talk is escalating a bit in the last few months but we didn't have any proper talk how the one we had in june which she initiated. We just tease eachother very lightly from time to time, she giggles when I do it and she knows I get a bit turned on when she does it. When I try to keep talking about it she usually tries to change subject though. I don't want to push her so I am not trying to talk about it often but maybe I feel like it's time to have a conversation.

How about asking whether she'd like to try setting up an online profile and chatting with interested guys? No pressure to do anything, just a bit of fun, part of the fantasy, role-play, foreplay, etc? And if it happens to move her dial in the direction of wanting to make it real ...

Ok so, she brought it up again, we were at a restaurant last friday and out of nowhere she said how good looking and how friendly the waiter was, she even joked about how he could be a good choice for a threesome. I asked her if she was serious but she said no, I tried to push her a bit saying she should add him on instagram and try to flirt with him but she declined saying she had some friends in common, she teased me saying I should be the one making the first step, not her.
I was thinking to talk to her about this on saturday before or after our sexy times but that time of the month came and we didn't have sex. I am going to bring it up next time we have sex, I'll let you know if she will be up to talk and how it will go.

muchred wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:19 am

Ok so, she brought it up again, we were at a restaurant last friday and out of nowhere she said how good looking and how friendly the waiter was, she even joked about how he could be a good choice for a threesome. I asked her if she was serious but she said no, I tried to push her a bit saying she should add him on instagram and try to flirt with him but she declined saying she had some friends in common, she teased me saying I should be the one making the first step, not her.
I was thinking to talk to her about this on saturday before or after our sexy times but that time of the month came and we didn't have sex. I am going to bring it up next time we have sex, I'll let you know if she will be up to talk and how it will go.

MR - If you have met the co-worker and you know what the waiter looks like, so she might have a 'type' visually she finds attractive. So you could keep an eye open for other guys that look similar and in the correct setting slyly point them out. Or let things be and if she points out other guys keep their look in mind and when you have a better idea what she finds of interest give her a little nudge.

muchred wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:19 am

Ok so, she brought it up again, we were at a restaurant last friday and out of nowhere she said how good looking and how friendly the waiter was, she even joked about how he could be a good choice for a threesome. I asked her if she was serious but she said no, I tried to push her a bit saying she should add him on instagram and try to flirt with him but she declined saying she had some friends in common, she teased me saying I should be the one making the first step, not her.
I was thinking to talk to her about this on saturday before or after our sexy times but that time of the month came and we didn't have sex. I am going to bring it up next time we have sex, I'll let you know if she will be up to talk and how it will go.

Dude, if she said all that, and that you should make the first move, then do it! She is testing you. I would start making the moves for her. She is probably too shy for it perhaps. Start making contact with the guy and let her see how the conversations go. Seems like you have a good chance.

Long Lurker 34 wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:57 am

muchred wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:19 am

Ok so, she brought it up again, we were at a restaurant last friday and out of nowhere she said how good looking and how friendly the waiter was, she even joked about how he could be a good choice for a threesome. I asked her if she was serious but she said no, I tried to push her a bit saying she should add him on instagram and try to flirt with him but she declined saying she had some friends in common, she teased me saying I should be the one making the first step, not her.
I was thinking to talk to her about this on saturday before or after our sexy times but that time of the month came and we didn't have sex. I am going to bring it up next time we have sex, I'll let you know if she will be up to talk and how it will go.

MR - If you have met the co-worker and you know what the waiter looks like, so she might have a 'type' visually she finds attractive. So you could keep an eye open for other guys that look similar and in the correct setting slyly point them out. Or let things be and if she points out other guys keep their look in mind and when you have a better idea what she finds of interest give her a little nudge.

That's what I will do, I think it's the right move, I don't want to act too fast, it's been a slow journey and I'm enjoying the progress we have made.

philxxo wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:46 am

muchred wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:19 am

Ok so, she brought it up again, we were at a restaurant last friday and out of nowhere she said how good looking and how friendly the waiter was, she even joked about how he could be a good choice for a threesome. I asked her if she was serious but she said no, I tried to push her a bit saying she should add him on instagram and try to flirt with him but she declined saying she had some friends in common, she teased me saying I should be the one making the first step, not her.
I was thinking to talk to her about this on saturday before or after our sexy times but that time of the month came and we didn't have sex. I am going to bring it up next time we have sex, I'll let you know if she will be up to talk and how it will go.

Dude, if she said all that, and that you should make the first move, then do it! She is testing you. I would start making the moves for her. She is probably too shy for it perhaps. Start making contact with the guy and let her see how the conversations go. Seems like you have a good chance.

I don't think she was testing me, she was teasing me, I don't want to act since he has some friends in common, if he would be a total stranger maybe I would but this is not the case.

So I didn't bring the subject up, it's so hard to choose the right time to talk about sex.
However I feel like we are making some progress, last saturday we went to bed and I tried to initiate sex but she said that she wasn't in the mood, then after 30 minutes or so when we turned the light off she kissed me and said:
her: "I want you to fuck me but you have to choose one hole and you can't switch to the other one"
me: " Babe you know I love anal but it's been a long time since I fucked your pussy, I'm very conflicted"
her: "Ok, you can have my pussy if you want but why has it been a long time?
She was teasing me and she knew it
me: "Because you always want the big dildo in your pussy when we fuck"
her: "That's true, I really like it but you can have it since that's your choice, I need you to use your fingers first to make me wet though"
It had been a while time since I fucked her pussy, she always wants the big dildo when we fuck and she usually let me dp her fucking her ass but in the last weeks it happened 2 or 3 times that I just used the dildo and the vibrator on her and I didn't really have the chance to fuck her.
I started to finger her, first one finger, then two, then three, then four, she was moaning a lot and then she said:
her: "I want something else inside me now"
I took the fingers out, I went on top of her but she said:
her: "I don't want your cock yet, I want the big dildo first, take it and put it in" and smiled
I did just that and she begun to moan even more than before,
me: "You really like how big this cock is?"
her: "I love how big it is, it feels perfect, too bad you chose my pussy, I really want your cock in my ass, I would love to fuck two cocks but it's ok, you can put your little cock inside me now"
She never teased me like that
me: "Babe, are you sure? Don't you prefer this big cock?"
She smiled: "I do, it stretches me so good, it fills me up completely, it's just bigger than you"
I was beyond turned on: "Ok forget it, I want to fuck your ass, you are so fucking hot!"
her: "Good, I want two cocks now!"
I took the dildo out, put my cock in her ass and I put the dildo back inside
her: "Finally, I need this, I need two cocks in me, push the big cock all the way inside my pussy and fuck my ass!"
I did just that, I was in the spoon position and she was facing up, I fucked her like that for some minutes. She was asking for more and how much she liked two cocks in her over and over again. She asked for the vibrator and after a few seconds her legs started to shake incontrollably and she said she was going to cum and came very very hard.
I wasn't done so we switched with me on top with her legs on my shoulders.
me: "Did you like to get fucked by two cocks?"
her: "I really like it, I like how you fuck my ass but I need something bigger in my pussy"
That sent me over the edge and I cum in her ass.
We just fell asleep afterwards since it was late and we were very tired.
I feel like it's a good step forward, she has always been a bit shy in bed, she asked me to use the dildo on her before or to fuck her ass but never so directly, it's the first time she was so open and slutty in front of me. It's also the first time she said clearly how she likes something bigger inside her.
So that's that for now.

That sounds very promising. You are almost there! Sounds like she is certainly willing, at least in concept. That's a lot of the battle. Now get on an app and let her choose the other cock she wants. Then you will be able to do some MMF stag and vixen play. Thats what I would do.