Reignite the Flame

[QuietHope]

I’m Karl, 53, living in Cali, near SF, but originally from rural northeast USA. I haven’t yet been cucked by my wife, but I think I always have been a cuck.

In high school, I found myself dating the “prettiest girl in school” but I secretly didn’t really want that girl. There was a different girl who had a bad reputation and she dressed the part and I thought she was incredibly sexy. She was no one that clean cut A+ student-athlete me could be seen with, but oh I remember fantasizing about her. And she knew it, I’m sure. She saw how I looked at her, even if we never spoke. I wanted “the slut” (I use this word in the most complimentary way.)

And I think it goes back even further. When I first began to masturbate, I used to fantasize about the typical women boys did back then (I was partial to Cheryl Ladd, but Lynda Carter and Judy Landers frequently popped into mind) but what I think may be different, is that in my fantasies, I wasn’t the one getting the girl. In my fantasies, I would “gift” the girl to one of my grade school mates. I would rotate the lucky guy around night to night. I can’t explain why I wasn’t ever the center of the fantasy, it's just what I naturally did from the get go.

In college, I started dating a woman that really impressed all of my male friends with her beauty. Even at recent reunions, guys clasp me on the back while gazing at her and ask me if I’m “remembering when”. But the truth is that she just never did it for me. She bored me sexually. We didn’t last long, she was right to feel my rejection of her.

I went through several short relationships and then moved to Japan out of college and that’s when things began to click better for me. I dated a woman who worked in a high end “snack bar”. She was “low class” and very sexy. I would meet up with her after she got off work at 2am and I would love to hear about the men pawing at her all night. God, I get hard just remembering her. When I told her what kinds of things turned me on, she was totally down. She let me blindfold her while a friend of mine that she’s never met fucked her. She let me hide in the closet and watch when she seduced the food delivery guy. I shared her with another buddy, doing the classic “spit roast”. She was fantastic.

But life brought me back to the US and I gave her up. I don’t know if I would have been brave enough to marry her. My family would not have approved. And I was still just 24 and marriage was far from mind. I got a job at a respected investment bank in NYC and after a few years, I met Sophia, whom I would eventually marry.

Sophia is very sexy, even today in her late 40s. Also an ivy-leaguer, she’s ambitious and intelligent and stays in great shape. She has Mexican heritage and classic sexiness. When we were young, I did tell her what kinds of things I was into and we would role play them with dildos etc. She did dress sexy a few times and we went to bars and she flirted some. Once, just after we were married, a guy asked her to dinner and she went but it didn’t go further than some flirting and drinks. There was an opening, but he had an early morning and they ended the evening with a heavy kiss. It was so close. I have masturbated about that moment often.

Before a second date, we learned she was pregnant and hotwifing was kind of forgotten.

To be clear, I would not have chosen a different wife even though she hasn’t fulfilled my cuck fantasy. She’s a great mom. I trust her. She looks out for me. She’s still sexy and has a healthy sex appetite. We love to travel together. We never run out of things to talk about. We have occasional squabbles but we haven’t had a real fight in years. I’m extraordinarily lucky.

So why am I here? Because I still have hopes and the kids are now leaving. Our youngest is a senior in high school. And I have read, here and elsewhere, about couples that begin to explore during these years. I remember how close she came to doing it. She dismisses it now-says she’s too old, not in shape etc-but I think that’s crap. She’s hot and I know plenty of guys, of all ages who would “hit that”. I think it's more likely that it's been a long, long time since she’s been with another man and she’s happy with our marriage and the idea of doing this kind of thing just doesn’t appeal to her.

But I really want her to…

[hubudig2]

Thanks for sharing your story.
I always love hearing people's backstories of how they got into the idea.

How long have you been together now? I'm assuming around 25 years?
Would you say your desire for her to hotwife has gained momentum in recent years?
Did you [both] always consider that it might be possible when the kids had grown up? Or has it not really been mentioned since that last date?
Has the roleplaying continued over the years or did that taper off with having kids?

As you say, she's gotten comfortable, she doesn't consider that other men would be interested in her anymore and therefor doesn't consider the options available to her.
If you can gradually/playfully/tactfully remind her that other men are still interested and it is still an option, it'll get her thinking about it again and considering the potential.
It'll no doubt be a slow process, it'll probably be a bit daunting for her to consider herself getting intimate with someone else after all this time.
If you play your cards right, she'll start to realise that it is still an option, she'll start to psyche herself up for it, maybe putting more consideration into her appearance to boost her self-confidence etc.

I think the real key is having someone that is a realistic option for her or a way of meeting someone "naturally".
The concept of having to go dating again seems to put most women off of the idea whereas if there's a guy she likes and he's interested in her, it becomes a much smaller gap to bridge.

[patw3268]

I like your backstory. I’ve always wonder why I’m like this myself. I think my past shaped me. My first love cheated on me. It’s good to hear from others also as to why.

The empty nest days may be more exciting than you think. I think it’s possible to reignite the flame of cucking if it was once lit.

[QuietHope]

I like your backstory. I’ve always wonder why I’m like this myself. I think my past shaped me. My first love cheated on me. It’s good to hear from others also as to why.

The empty nest days may be more exciting than you think. I think it’s possible to reignite the flame of cucking if it was once lit.

Thanks.I don't think I would handle being cheated on well. I do want to be involved, complicit or at least knowledgeable of what happens. Its a fine line but an important one to me. I'm hopeful about the empty nest thing-we already have more time than we did when the kids were all at home and sexual activity between us has ticked up.

Thanks for sharing your story.
I always love hearing people's backstories of how they got into the idea.

How long have you been together now? I'm assuming around 25 years?
Would you say your desire for her to hotwife has gained momentum in recent years?
Did you [both] always consider that it might be possible when the kids had grown up? Or has it not really been mentioned since that last date?
Has the roleplaying continued over the years or did that taper off with having kids?

As you say, she's gotten comfortable, she doesn't consider that other men would be interested in her anymore and therefor doesn't consider the options available to her.
If you can gradually/playfully/tactfully remind her that other men are still interested and it is still an option, it'll get her thinking about it again and considering the potential.
It'll no doubt be a slow process, it'll probably be a bit daunting for her to consider herself getting intimate with someone else after all this time.
If you play your cards right, she'll start to realise that it is still an option, she'll start to psyche herself up for it, maybe putting more consideration into her appearance to boost her self-confidence etc.

I think the real key is having someone that is a realistic option for her or a way of meeting someone "naturally".
The concept of having to go dating again seems to put most women off of the idea whereas if there's a guy she likes and he's interested in her, it becomes a much smaller gap to bridge.

Yes, your math is right. 24 years married (Advantage of getting married in the year 2000 is I just need to remember what year it as, although I find I'm often forgetting that!) When we fool around, she knows its often, not always, on my mind. For example, when she's giving me oral, I'll put my finger down there and she'll suck on it as if another guy is there. Or I pull the dildo from the nightstand and she'll use it while giving me oral. Once in a while, if we've had a few drinks at a party or something and we're having sex that night, I'll ask her about men she spoke with, who did she find interesting etc and then I have her close her eyes and say his name as we have sex. However, since that date way back when, she's never dressed sexy with the intention of flirting with other men and there's been no talk of dates etc. When I occasionally make a comment like "hey you know I'm fine with you taking that girls trip to Vegas and going wild", I get an eye roll. There's been no serious discussion of her going on another date, etc.

I think she knows she's still attractive-men pay attention to her-but I also think she believes she's good at hiding her age and a new guy might be disappointed to see her older body nude. She's wrong-her body is great-but she's got her pride and insecurities.

I do feel like if I want this to happen, I need to nudge it along somehow. Maybe it goes no where, but she won't go there on her own. I'll give some thought to your idea of her meeting someone "naturally".

[Mumfred]

I think she knows she's still attractive-men pay attention to her-but I also think she believes she's good at hiding her age and a new guy might be disappointed to see her older body nude. She's wrong-her body is great-but she's got her pride and insecurities.

I think our wive’ self-image thing is the main struggle for me and most guys on here. As bad as sexual rejection sucks for men it is still just part of the game. For women it seems to be entirely unacceptable. If a one out of ten men rejected them they would skip on the other nine just to avoid the one rejection.

[QuietHope]

Really wish there was a "how to" manual here. We have a date night dinner coming up, I think I need to reminisce about that date she had all those years ago...

[QuietHope]

I want to tell you something I did, that I haven’t told anyone about, including Sophia. I’m embarrassed about it, maybe ashamed is the better word. I used a prostitute in an attempt to have a cuck experience.

I met her in a bar in NYC. Let's call her Lisa. She claims to be 25 but I think she’s more like 35. She’s very attractive. Dark-hair, dark eyes. White. Short, maybe 5’2” with surgery enhanced breasts. I was naive and had no idea she was working when we first started talking in a hotel bar. When she did tell me, I said that I wasn’t interested but would love to ask her about her profession. The bar was quiet and for the cost of a drink, she told me some of her stories. I asked lots of questions about her clients. Oldest? Youngest? Biggest dick? Smallest? Weirdest request? Craziest? Does she ever say no? After a while, I was very turned on and decided to employ her.

I travel to NYC often and I had her number and we arranged to meet several times. I’m not an idiot-I paid for every meeting-but I believe we did become friends. One time, she invited me to her apartment and we even spent an afternoon doing things like grocery shopping and cooking together. Eventually, I told her my cuck fantasies.

She agreed to do it (at a higher than normal price). It was amazingly easy to arrange. We went on a threesome app and posted our photo, claiming to be husband and wife. We said we were new to this. Almost immediately we were getting hits. She let me pick the guy. I chose a 27 year old skinny white guy with longish hair and a huge cock. This would be his first experience at something like this, too. We arranged to meet at the bar of the hotel I was in.

She played the part great. She seemed nervous and unsure. Needing to drain several drinks before going to the room. In the elevator, she held my hand and cuddled next to me like she was scared. Then, in the room, I sat on the couch and she quietly sat next to the guy. They kissed, made out and then they gave each other oral (we also arranged that she would get paid a price for each time the guy came). They had sex and she was screaming and saying things about never having been fucked so hard. The guy was a quiet type-he didn’t mock me or anything. After he came in her (with condom of course), he left pretty quickly. I waited for him to cum before I did myself.

Lisa loved it. She had a great pay day and she said she loved fucking a guy who was sincere, not paying. For me, the whole experience was erotic and fun but in the end, it just wasn’t what I really wanted. I’m not just a voyeur, I want to be a cuck and there was nothing emotional for me when the guy was pounding her. I never called her again. Lisa is not Sophia. It has to be Sophia.

[QuietHope]

Not sure if anyone is paying attention but I did have fun with the wife at dinner last night. I used Father's Day to get her to go to a fancy dinner and dress a little sexy and stop by a dive bar afterwards. She was wearing a dress that strapped around the neck leaving shoulders bare and showing off a lot of cleavage. During dinner, I brought up the date she went on all those years ago. Turns out they are FB friends but he's married with kids and lives far away from us. We talked about her boyfriends etc and she seemed to enjoy telling me some of the details of those guys. After dinner, at the dive, we sat at a bar and had drinks and I started talking to some college students near us. I suggested they teach Sophia to play pool and I enjoyed a couple of them playing with her while I drank with others. Nothing sexual happened but there was some flirting. She was the one who said she wanted to head home after a while, to everyone's disappointment. I suggested she get their numbers but she gave me a disapproving look and told me not to push it. However, when we got home and into bed, she was very turned on and we talked about which of the guys she liked and which she thought were into her. She said one of them was much more touchy than the others while playing pool. I loved it.

[Lucky Dog]

duplicate.

[Lucky Dog]

Not sure if anyone is paying attention but I did have fun with the wife at dinner last night. I used Father's Day to get her to go to a fancy dinner and dress a little sexy and stop by a dive bar afterwards. She was wearing a dress that strapped around the neck leaving shoulders bare and showing off a lot of cleavage. During dinner, I brought up the date she went on all those years ago. Turns out they are FB friends but he's married with kids and lives far away from us. We talked about her boyfriends etc and she seemed to enjoy telling me some of the details of those guys. After dinner, at the dive, we sat at a bar and had drinks and I started talking to some college students near us. I suggested they teach Sophia to play pool and I enjoyed a couple of them playing with her while I drank with others. Nothing sexual happened but there was some flirting. She was the one who said she wanted to head home after a while, to everyone's disappointment. I suggested she get their numbers but she gave me a disapproving look and told me not to push it. However, when we got home and into bed, she was very turned on and we talked about which of the guys she liked and which she thought were into her. She said one of them was much more touchy than the others while playing pool. I loved it.

Yours is an amazing story. I really identify with what you said about not being a voyeur but wanting to be sucked. Watching real sex is sometimes less exciting than watching porn, which can be a real fantasy. But seeing a wife wanting another man and enjoying being taken by him is a totally different experience. I hope this proceeds well for you and I'm going to follow along as it does.

[QuietHope]

Yours is an amazing story. I really identify with what you said about not being a voyeur but wanting to be sucked. Watching real sex is sometimes less exciting than watching porn, which can be a real fantasy. But seeing a wife wanting another man and enjoying being taken by him is a totally different experience. I hope this proceeds well for you and I'm going to follow along as it does.

Thank you Lucky Dog! Appreciate being heard and I would welcome any advice and thoughts or criticism from you and the community here.

[wulfenus]

I think you've shown a lot of great introspection of your feelings about how you feel about the women in your life and now
your wife. I thought it really hot you couldnt help but look over at the 'slut' in HS when you had a nice girl already.

I wanted “the slut” (I use this word in the most complimentary way.)

And I think it goes back even further. When I first began to masturbate, I used to fantasize about the typical women boys did back then (I was partial to Cheryl Ladd, but Lynda Carter and Judy Landers frequently popped into mind) but what I think may be different, is that in my fantasies, I wasn’t the one getting the girl. In my fantasies, I would “gift” the girl to one of my grade school mates. I would rotate the lucky guy around night to night. I can’t explain why I wasn’t ever the center of the fantasy, it's just what I naturally did from the get go.

[Restarting]

However, when we got home and into bed, she was very turned on and we talked about which of the guys she liked and which she thought were into her.

That evening sounds great for both of you. You may consider buying her a slightly sexier dress for your next outing. She'll love the compliments (verbal and not-verbal). Later, you can remind her how so many people complimented her. She might like to go out for more of that.

I know my wife didn't acknowledge her hot looks until she started hearing it from so many men and women. She knows now and her confidence is sky high and incredibly sexy. It's amazing how much more powerful compliments from others can be.

I'm happy for your progress and hope you both enjoy new and exciting, empty-nester experiences!

[patw3268]

Long game you’re going to be cucked, I can see it. Baby steps.
Have her squeeze your hand when she sees a hot guy.
Get her to wear a push up bra and mention who looks.
Take her concerns with pure empathy. Let her talk about them in detail. Ask questions.

[Seductionrules]

Thanks Quiethope for your story
She just needs the right guy to come along and it will probably happen

[QuietHope]

I think you've shown a lot of great introspection of your feelings about how you feel about the women in your life and now
your wife. I thought it really hot you couldnt help but look over at the 'slut' in HS when you had a nice girl already.

Thanks. I don't know why I am the way I am, but I accept it.

That evening sounds great for both of you. You may consider buying her a slightly sexier dress for your next outing. She'll love the compliments (verbal and not-verbal). Later, you can remind her how so many people complimented her. She might like to go out for more of that.

I know my wife didn't acknowledge her hot looks until she started hearing it from so many men and women. She knows now and her confidence is sky high and incredibly sexy. It's amazing how much more powerful compliments from others can be.

I'm happy for your progress and hope you both enjoy new and exciting, empty-nester experiences!

Thank you. I think getting involved in her dressing sounds hot. Great idea.

Thanks Quiethope for your story
She just needs the right guy to come along and it will probably happen

I hope you're right!

Long game you’re going to be cucked, I can see it. Baby steps.
Have her squeeze your hand when she sees a hot guy.
Get her to wear a push up bra and mention who looks.
Take her concerns with pure empathy. Let her talk about them in detail. Ask questions.

Dude! I took your hand squeeze idea! Will post seperately. THANK YOU

[QuietHope]

Thank you @Patw3268, I LOVED the hand squeezing game! We abridged for tech…she would text me, just a “!”. This way I could watch her from afar.

I suggested it on the way to an outdoor mall. She was game but she did want to clarify ground rules. Just because she “squeezed”, didn’t mean she wanted to fuck the guy. A squeeze might just mean “he’s cute”, nothing more, and she reserved the right to change her opinion at any time. We typically separate and do our own shopping but this time, I planned to follow her around at a distance. She left the car first and I waited a minute. She was wearing loose blue jean cut-off shorts and a plain white t-shirt but she had a nice bra beneath and the t-shirt was stretched nicely across her chest.

She began with a little humor. A homeless guy on a curb in the parking area. She sent a “!?” And my response was “You shouldn’t joke, I think there’s an entire genre of porn dedicated to that idea.” She responded with an “OMFG!”

Next was a “hmmm…” about a much older gentleman, I’m guessing in his 80s, but spry, and dressed very dapperly in a cap and a suit with vest. He was waiting at the bus stop. I wasn’t sure if she was still joking or not.

”For real?”

”Put him in the ‘cute’ pile”

OK, now that was kind of interesting to me, even if not really hot.

Next up, skater boys got a “!”

(I’m already loving this game. She hasn’t even entered the mall yet and I’m still sitting in the car and she’s had three reactions.)

“Wow, you’re into quite an age range.”

“I noticed one say something with a head motion to me. My ego responds.”

OK! She’s paying attention to guys now!

Things quieted down for a bit as she went into a couple of women’s clothing stores and a well-known home goods place. Lots of women and she was focused on shopping.

But then she went into the retail store of a major US tech company (can I say brands?) that’s named after a very common fruit.

I watched from outside and could see clearly through the front glass wall as a greeter guy who was a tall young, long-haired white guy brought her over to a store rep, a young man, Asian. She sent “!” After speaking with the rep and he left her and went into the back of the store.

”Which one? The greeter or the rep?”

”The rep! He’s nerdy AND muscle-bound but you make a good point about the greeter”

“Quick. Change your phone home screen to the pic of us at the resort in April, where you are in a bikini.”

”Why?”

`”Tell him you think the battery drains too fast and hand it to him.”

”How do you think of these things?”

When he came back to her, I saw them chat again and she handed him her phone and he left again. She looked back at me a couple of times with a grin as she waited. I nodded to the greeter guy and she gave me a head shake but then she walked over to him and I watched them chat.

They were interrupted when friends of ours approached her. I hadn’t noticed them and now I wanted to be extra careful not to be spotted. They spoke for a bit. I think the husband is a good looking dude, very athletic as a bicyclist.

Then the Asian guy returned with her phone and she texted:

”Turns out that my battery is still pretty solid at 87% but he says they gave me a ‘tune up’.”

“What about X (the husband of friend)?”

”No!”

”Did the rep notice the pic?”

”If he did, he didn’t say anything”

“Having fun?”

“Yeah. Noticing guys more than normal. But I don’t think I need anything else. Home now?”

”Why not go to X (sporting goods)?”

”Good idea. Need hiking sandals”

This is a well-known outdoor enthusiast co-op store. I went inside shortly after. She sent a “!”. She was trying on different shoes with a crunchy looking young guy.

“I didn’t think your type”

”He’s cute. Nice. Maybe he’s into feet.”

”Another major genre.”

”How do you know so much about porn genres?”

”[red-faced emoji]”

She left with a new pair of sandals and was walking out and I was following when I stopped short. She was talking to the skaters. No texts. But I’ll be damned if she didn’t get onto a board and ride. I didn’t know she could do that although knowing her older brothers, I’m not too surprised. The boys seemed to love it.

Then, I got distracted. Someone said my name. Suddenly, a young coworker of mine is in front of me and we’re small-talking. I’m trying to smoothly exit the conversation but he keeps going on about the bachelor party he was at the previous night and how hung over he is. I didn’t care but I’m too polite to walk away. Suddenly, Sophia pops up beside me and I introduce them. I’m irritated that I didn’t see what conspired with the skater boys. When we finally manage to head to the parking lot together, I ask her. She shrugged and said nothing happened.

”They were cute and friendly and I didn’t realize it before but one of them is my friend Y’s son. I hadn’t been on a board in years.”

”Damn, I wish I could have been watching.”

She then looked at me quizzically. “Did you look at your phone?”

I checked to find:

”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuckable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

That’s when I realized that she was into my coworker.

[Tryn]

That’s a hot response to your coworker!! Maybe you need to organize something with him involved, like a night out to bar or pool.

[bbarnsworth]

I wouldn't recommend getting involved with a coworker. Things can go south fast, and south very badly. There's plenty of other opportunities that you don't have to ****-up your work situation with this.

[patw3268]

You are making great progress. Keep us updated, please

[QuietHope]

That’s a hot response to your coworker!! Maybe you need to organize something with him involved, like a night out to bar or pool.

I'll post below but I think I need to cool it on him for now.

I wouldn't recommend getting involved with a coworker. Things can go south fast, and south very badly. There's plenty of other opportunities that you don't have to ****-up your work situation with this.

Yeah, I know that's right. Got to think with the correct head.

You are making great progress. Keep us updated, please

OK!

So I have to tell you that I don’t really know this guy well. He’s one of the sales/marketing guys so we don’t interact day to day. He’s one of those High Energy guys that I imagine listens to psych up music every morning or something like that. I can see he’s good looking. A California surfer. Light brown hair that has been made lighter by the sun. Dark natural tan. I’d guess he’s late 20s. He’s got an unusual first name that lets you know his parents were likely Californian hippies.

And that night, I pretended to be him as I fucked Sophia. I’m not sure now much she really was thinking of him or just telling me she was but regardless, I liked her talking about why she thought he was so hot. She said when they shook hands, it was a lingering shake and there was flirtatious eye contact. She’s certain he stared at her chest. I didn’t even frigging notice because I was craining my neck and trying to look around for the stupid skaters. I barely heard them talk about surfing and how she’s been interested in lessons for herself and one of my kids.

After we orgasmed and were lying in bed, I asked her if she would really want him. I don’t know how I could arrange to have him over for dinner or something but I think he’d be eager to suck up to me so I could do it. If something happened, it would be really weird and awkward for me at work but I think I’d take that chance. In some ways, he’s perfect because he’s probably going to be good and he’s not going to be interested in a relationship or anything like that. But Sophia said a definitive No. She said don’t invite him over or try anything like that. She also said she was not going to contact him about surfing. It was a fun fantasy but no, no, no. She warned me not to push it.

So I’ve dropped the idea. For now.

[bbarnsworth]

Well, good plan in going with what SHE wants. All you can do is open doors. You can't push her through.

[QuietHope]

Bad news is that she really shut down the chatter about the guy from work, I can’t even mention him now. I think I overplayed it and I didn’t even attempt to set anything up. When I saw him at work, he said it was nice running into us and that my wife was “lovely”. It was polite and nice. When I mentioned it to her, she said that she meant it when she said that I better not be trying anything.

So I dropped the topic entirely for a week. We were busy anyway and traveling for July 4 for a family get together. Am I a perv for thinking cousins and uncles and nephews check her out? She says that I am imagining it and that I’m a perv. I contest the first point but concede the second.

The good news is that family tensions were driving her a bit stir crazy so when I suggested that we should hit a local dive bar last night after dinner, she jumped on yes. I didn’t have to ask her to dress sexy. She’s a classy type but the weather was warm so she wore nice shorts, tight on her tight bum and a half shirt that showed off her tight abs. Her nice chest held up high in a good bra.

The bar wasn’t too crowded and we got a seat near the corner of the bar. At the right angle from us were a group of three college boys. I sat so that she was between me and them but I was gregarious and spoke to them. Asked them if they were from the area, favorite bars etc. They were friendly. I bought us all a round of shots and beers. I asked them about picking up girls in bars and they said it never happens-everything is on the dating apps now. I said Sophia and I never did them-we were married before they came around. They said the apps were awful and Sophia expressed her relief that she never had to use them. That’s when they said she would “kill it” on the apps.

The light went off in my head and the fun now began. I said that they should help her make a profile. She was like “I just said that I’m glad I never had to do it.” And I said that it’d just be for fun to see what happened. I don’t know if it was the shot she drank but she said yes. The boys were visibly excited-like they were hopping up and down. She downloaded the app of the famous one-the one synonymous with online dating-and began building it out. She insisted on being honest that she was married and just fooling around. The boys said it wouldn’t matter. Then they went through some of her photos together which was hot to watch. They were checking out her photos at the beach in a bikini. At home in pajamas. Traveling on vacation. And they were making comments like “Oh use that one! She looks hot in that one!” I loved it and she was a little embarrassed but they had her phone now.

Then, they suggested taking some photos of her. This I loved. She was just smiling and sitting at the bar at first but then they suggested sexier poses and she did some. Leaning towards them so her cleavage was prominent. Stretching so her bare belly showed and even a little of underbra. Then she took photos with them. Arms around her. Hands on her.

Then the profile went “live”. We left it alone and had a drink and things calmed down a bit. They played pool. Sophia was feeling a little tipsy and we talked about which of the guys she thought was cute. She liked one in particular but also said they were too young for her.

The boys then came back and suggested she start swiping. Sure enough, it was match after match after match. Pretty much every guy she swiped positive on, came up as having swiped positive on her. She had a bunch, at least 20 matches almost immediately. Then, the matches started to message her. They wanted to know if she was in an open marriage. (Yes I said, No she said). They were a range of ages and races. Several said right away that they had a thing for older women or “milfs”.

The guys were pretty excited but Sophia put the phone away. She said she didn’t want to lead anyone on. She then said she wanted to head home and the guys were disappointed but we left.

In the car, she admitted that she had a good time and she took her phone out and was going through the app again. On her own, she was going through profiles and then she got a new match. One of the boys from the bar.


“Haha, we had so much fun with you tonight!”

No reply from Sophia.

”And those other matches are right-you’re a total MILF! We ALL thought so!”

No reply.

”Here’s my number-you don’t need this app. 867-5309”

Finally, she responded. ”You guys were fun and you’re very sweet, thank you.”

”Hey! I’m serious! If you ever want to have some fun, let me know!”

”I’m a married mom and an old lady.”

”I can’t believe you are over 40, you look 25, and I don’t care. You are HOT!”

No reply.

”Text me?!”


She didn’t reply again and after she showed me the conversation back at the house, she deleted the profile. However, I took down the guy’s number while she rolled her eyes. I told her that there was no harm in keeping the option open.

[bbarnsworth]

This was a fantastic way to dip her toes in the pool without actually doing anything! This is really great!

Now, back off and let her simmer on this for a while. Push to much, and it's your fantasy and not hers.

[QuietHope]

My imagination has been running wild the last few days thinking back on that evening at the bar. I keep wondering if I had said something different or pushed the situation one way or another, maybe something more would have happened. Or maybe it was just right and I have to accept the baby steps.

I thought I might take this opportunity to give you all a little more background on us. I do corporate finance work for a public company. I’m a low profile executive but for my career, I really can’t be “exposed” as a cuck wannabe. As part of my work, I do a lot of contract negotiation as well as M&A and I think it could be damaging if I was viewed as anything but a plain vanilla conservative married dad. Maybe I’m paranoid. I enjoy sports. Play in a basketball league mostly with older guys but there are some young teams including high schoolers in the summer who have been kicking our sore old butts recently. Do fantasy football.

I don’t think anyone would guess that I’m a cuck. Personality wise and professionally, I can be somewhat of a hard-ass. I’m good looking. Just facts. The women I dated when I was single were highly regarded and even today, I get approached. My guess is that I could score as a bull. Just not what I want.

Sophia is a latina and in our mostly white social circles, I think she’s seen as exotic and sexy. She comes from a Catholic Mexican family but she’s not actively Catholic at all. Our kids are not Catholic. She’s very intelligent and attended an elite university. She started out in academics and earned a Master’s degree but for various reasons, she became somewhat disillusioned by academia. She focused on being a mom when the kids were very young and then, in a bit of a twist, she became a dental hygienist which turned out to be great for her. I joke that she enjoys it because she loves to talk and not be interrupted but I think it's true. She’s very friendly and talkative and now, she has glistening white teeth. She’s a very active person. A runner and into outdoor sports. She’s in two different book clubs and likes to take community college classes on a wide variety of subjects from painting to astronomy.

I should mention that she did get a boob job several years ago. It was after we were sure we were done having kids and she had gotten back into shape but some things weren’t as tight and perky anymore. She says this was a “restoration” more than an augmentation. Size is about the same as she was naturally, 30 B/C. I was fine with her aging “mom bod”, but as a cuck wannabe, I have been very pleased to see that she still cares how she appears. She still wants to be seen as sexy. And when she wants to show them off, they do look marvelous.