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I have quite a bit of experience hitting on married women with a pretty high sucess rate. Here are a few things I've found.

Most women either are or will cheat on their husband. Women need the right opportunity or person at the right time. Having a talk with her can certainly help with the right time. The right man can vary a lot. Most women will say, "I want it to happen naturally." But these days in 2024 men usually don't hit on women, especially if they have a wedding right. If your wife is introverted and doesn't get out of her social circle much that's even harder. Another thing is even with permission wives still don't want their husband to know. When you have the talk they might tell you, "there's no way I'd ever do something like that." But secretly they are thinking, "It's good to know I have a free pass now in case I get caught but there's no way I'm ever going to tell him."

Another think to keep in mind, 98% of men think there is no possible way their wife would cheat. Close to 40% are. The other 60% a good percentage of them would fall into 3 other catories. 1). Would if they right guy came along. 2) they first get divorced so they aren't labeled a "cheater" then they do it. 3). Tragedy strikes. They die or their husband dies before they get a chance to cheat. The few truly faithful wives left out there?........... Feel free to weigh in with what on what you think that is.

firef503 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:10 pm

Another think to keep in mind, 98% of men think there is no possible way their wife would cheat. Close to 40% are. The other 60% a good percentage of them would fall into 3 other catories.

I would be interested to know where you got these figures from. Are they just percentages that you feel are about right, or are they picked from some survey somewhere.
I'm not disputing them, just curious as to how you arrived at them.

Well this is less scientific and more for an open brainstorming discussion. I have heard or read each one of those at some point and in my own experience they seems pretty accurate. The almost 40% of women that cheat is pretty variable though. That is a hard thing to gauge. Simply because you have to find people to own up to it. So it really depends on what study you choose to believe. Usually low numbers are derived from asking each member of a couple if they have ever cheated. The high numbers dig deeper into it and they only ask people who were married after they relationship has ended. Which would give a more accurate number because it went the span of the relationship and they are more likely to tell the truth. But less accurate because they are taking a snap shot from couples who had their relationship end which says they are more likely to cheat. Either way the number is pretty high.

Another interesting one Harvard did. They asked 1000 currently married couples are random stages in the relationship (some newly weds, some married 50 years). Showed a picture of a very attractive person and asked if they would cheat on their spouse with this person if there was no possible way they'd get caught. 81% of men and 76% of women said yes. The number one reason they gave for no was "I'd be too afraid to get caught." Also since it didn't discriminate how long they've been married it's likely many of the "no" answers would change.

My own experience hitting on men's wife seems to agree with some of the figures. Most often men that think their wives would never cheat under any circumstance. And in a suprisingly short amount of time I get them to.

Another thing is even with permission wives still don't want their husband to know. When you have the talk they might tell you, "there's no way I'd ever do something like that." But secretly they are thinking, "It's good to know I have a free pass now in case I get caught but there's no way I'm ever going to tell him."

This was true in my case. Wife knew she had the hall pass. Went to her high school reunion by herself. Hooked up with a former classmate that she really hadn’t had much interaction with in high school for some incredible sex. Didn’t tell me for literally years. Was surprised when I acted so positively when she finally fessed up!

Gentlemen, if you want your wives to do this, make it crystal clear about granting her a never-expiring “hall pass.” Doesn’t matter if she seems uninterested at the moment. Someday, somewhere the right situation will present itself and she will be thinking “I’m completely free to fuck this guy if I want to, and to top it off my husband will be thrilled!”

You hit on many of my wifes comments. "She wants it to happen naturally", Yes, if it was the right guy, place and time."

But she also does not want it set up, so LS party's, resorts or apps will not work.

We roleplay, watch porn and have toys, but I know it won't go any further without more targeted action.

Thoughts?

Bobs52 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:00 am

Gentlemen, if you want your wives to do this, make it crystal clear about granting her a never-expiring “hall pass.” Doesn’t matter if she seems uninterested at the moment. Someday, somewhere the right situation will present itself and she will be thinking “I’m completely free to fuck this guy if I want to, and to top it off my husband will be thrilled!”

One day when I was really horny (she'd had my cock locked up for quite some time) I wrote out an 'Official Hall Pass' and left it for her to find. She found it. She took it, and hid it. She told me that I would never find where she put it, and that I was never getting it back.

She hasn't used it yet (one of our hard rules is that I have to know), but she has been hinting that she might want to get back into 'The Game', and hinting about 'other people' being involved.

(The Game: She is 'The Mistress' and I am her 'sex slave'. She locks my cock in the cage and she can do anything she wants, sexually speaking, and *make* me do [almost] anything she wants. Aside from a relatively short list of 'hard limits', she has the power to literally force me to go along with whatever she wants to do {consensual non-consent}.)

Since my doc has put me on daily Cialis, I am not exactly looking forward to having my cock locked up again...but the fact that I won't have any choice if she decides to is exciting. I suspect that being on the Cialis is going to make being locked much more difficult than it has been in the past.

trecital wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:30 pm

I would be interested to know where you got these figures from. Are they just percentages that you feel are about right, or are they picked from some survey somewhere.

I'd back up the 40% through completely empirical evidence...in others words a WAG, wild ass guess. going on my
experience back when, ok way back when I entered the dating scene of mostly 30 somethings at a big hi tech
company.

Somehow I managed to get one of the best looking girls and became part of the social circle, of mostly
athletic guys and good looking women. The computer nerds lusted after and talked about the girls just
as much, but they had to go home and whack off, well sometimes they might get a chubby girl.

A few nerds were brave enough to go to strip clubs, fall in love and spend too much on a stripper.
I'd try to warn them, but they knew they were being used and somewhat in denial, spent their money.

Everybody worked hard, wanted to show they were smart, but after work there was a lot of
social events going on, coed sports, dancing, a few guys were known for giving parties. Plenty
of looking for love.

Of the available women, several were divorced, a couple had been for awhile so their stories
of fooling around on their husbands was well known and not so embarrassing. A couple of the
more recent ones, told my gf about affairs, who of course told me.

My gf had been divorced a cple yrs and she certainly had the good girl image, and indeed she
was a most pleasant person, so floored me when she told me she had had 2 affairs before
getting divorced.

She'd been married in college. When she got hired at this big company she said she was
overwhelmed at all the male intention. She was so flattered, temptation was everywhere.

One married woman had been sucking off her married boss during business trips for a year.
That story kept me hard whenever thinking about that.

If your wife is at work there's always a dozen hard cocks pointed at her. if single, they
are in launch mode !

I traveled w/a female coworker a lot. She loved to talk about sex. She had only had
sex w/her hubby, but had almost ! had 2 affairs, which she wriggled out of. So the
temptation is there, as far as I know she always resisted. She did tell me about 2 other married women
fooling around as if she was using it for an excuse. She said one told her about a
guy who had a cock like a horse, and she said How can I see him and not think about that?

I had a really cute married supervisor for awhile, dressed nicely and in her regular rotation was what
I called her school girl outfit, plaid yellow skirt just a bit shorter than usual. Man I fantasized about
her on my desk many times.

We noticed she started seeing this male coworker for lunch and in his office. Of course nothing romantic
to see, but do folks like this think they are not noticed?

So another woman, who is always in the know, tells me and a buddy that her hubby blew a lot
of their savings on whips and chains escorts, and now she was having an affair and looking to
get divorced. Also hubby sent emails about their sexual secrets to the escorts, such as
she makes squeaky noises when she has an orgasm.

So now there I was working w/my sexy supervisor knowing how she sounds when she cums.

I tell ya if you tell somebody about sex, it's going to get around.

One gorgeous tan athletic girl was near fooling around with a couple buddies. We alll
slobbered over her, she was a classy flirt. We thought she had to be divorced, and
one party she brings her husband to it and climbs all over him at the party. She
did fool around w/other guys, we weren't sure what to think. Now being so much
more worldly haha, maybe the hubby knew ?

Another cute married brunette I thought was hot worked for a bank. I was friends with
one of her gfs whom she confided in. Her boss at the bank was banging her, even snuck
her away for a weekend.

2 couples were discrete, but verified swingers, so not cheating, but that was a scandalous status
at the time, hopefully still is.

I think when people get in their 30s they go through an extra horny phase, more about
worrying that they are missing something. Just a pop psychology guess.

on the positive side ... 60% are faithful?

I find this topic and the contributions very interesting.

I have no experience with this, but would love to hear more about it.

I'm willing to agree with the OP's premise that it is simple.

But as a four-decade wannabe, who has long encouraged my wife to use her free pass and go down the slide, it ain't easy.

I think Soph wants to do it but she's scared or nervous and she's waiting waiting and waiting for it to be perfect. Like hesitating before jumping into a lake on a hot day-you know it will be refreshing and good, yet one can still hesitate. Its change. Its different. And in this case, I acknowledge that the risks are real. I would love to get someone with your skill set to seduce her but I also feel like it would be a violation of her trust in me somehow.

Another aspect of the corporate world was the Kabam marriage. You'd know a married coworker, maybe well, maybe worked on a project with them, then one day Kabam! they were now married to another coworker. Then the stories would fly, but it happened often enough to be noticeable. So you knew there was some fooling around going on before hand, but they managed to keep it under the radar till - Kabam.

firef503 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:10 pm

I have quite a bit of experience hitting on married women with a pretty high sucess rate. Here are a few things I've found.

Most women either are or will cheat on their husband. Women need the right opportunity or person at the right time. Having a talk with her can certainly help with the right time. The right man can vary a lot. Most women will say, "I want it to happen naturally." But these days in 2024 men usually don't hit on women, especially if they have a wedding right. If your wife is introverted and doesn't get out of her social circle much that's even harder. Another thing is even with permission wives still don't want their husband to know. When you have the talk they might tell you, "there's no way I'd ever do something like that." But secretly they are thinking, "It's good to know I have a free pass now in case I get caught but there's no way I'm ever going to tell him."

This seems true. The end of guys "cold approaching" on the street and fears of sexual harassment charges at work have been bad for wannabes. Pick-up attempts still happen, though. My cuck feelings started because my wife liked to tell me about every man who hit on her. This was to make me jealous and faithful. It made me horny and fantasizing.

The first guy she fucked with my blessing was a much younger co-worker who was moving to another city. He had been hitting on her pretty crudely for years. She promised him a good bye dinner night out, and from there they went to his apartment . . .

Later on she met a guy in another way that's dying out, the singles bar. That lasted for three years.

safado wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:19 pm

The first guy she fucked with my blessing was a much younger co-worker who was moving to another city. He had been hitting on her pretty crudely for years. She promised him a good bye dinner night out, and from there they went to his apartment . . .

That is very hot.

firef503 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:10 pm

I have quite a bit of experience hitting on married women with a pretty high sucess rate. Here are a few things I've found.

Most women either are or will cheat on their husband. Women need the right opportunity or person at the right time. Having a talk with her can certainly help with the right time. The right man can vary a lot. Most women will say, "I want it to happen naturally." But these days in 2024 men usually don't hit on women, especially if they have a wedding right. If your wife is introverted and doesn't get out of her social circle much that's even harder. Another thing is even with permission wives still don't want their husband to know. When you have the talk they might tell you, "there's no way I'd ever do something like that." But secretly they are thinking, "It's good to know I have a free pass now in case I get caught but there's no way I'm ever going to tell him."

Another think to keep in mind, 98% of men think there is no possible way their wife would cheat. Close to 40% are. The other 60% a good percentage of them would fall into 3 other catories. 1). Would if they right guy came along. 2) they first get divorced so they aren't labeled a "cheater" then they do it. 3). Tragedy strikes. They die or their husband dies before they get a chance to cheat. The few truly faithful wives left out there?........... Feel free to weigh in with what on what you think that is.

You are absolutely spot on, asked my wife for over 25 years to cuckold me, told her i would love her to feel the pleasure of another man, and I wrote it in letters, cards and notes also.
She would always tell me that I’m all she needs (even though she had made it clear that I was small and never satisfied her) she would claim that she could never, would n ver do that.
Then by accident, I found out she had been in a 8 or 9 month relationship (affair) and they were enjoying each other
I did not tell her I knew, but she found out. And then she found out how much it turned me on.
Believe it or not, she hasn’t stepped into it again, as you say “the right guy at the right time” she definitely needs another right guy right time
The guy she was with, met her at an antique/craft fair in our area, they talked and he gave her his card, and got hers, then he just pursued her…….she told me , the only reason it ended, was because he moved out of the area

Mumfred wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:57 am

safado wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:19 pm

The first guy she fucked with my blessing was a much younger co-worker who was moving to another city. He had been hitting on her pretty crudely for years. She promised him a good bye dinner night out, and from there they went to his apartment . . .

That is very hot.

Since you liked it, here are more details. She had been flirting with her boss, having lunch with him, but he never took the bait. She had finally agreed she would fuck a guy if the opportunity arose and she found him attractive enough. This other guy had been flirting with her for a long time, made crude compliments about her ass and nicer ones about how she dressed. He told her how much he loved older women. She was 53 at the time but in good shape, a curvy brown Indian bhabi. He was about 20 years younger, Hispanic.

He was leaving town to take a job in the city of his birth. She had casually told him that she would buy him a goodbye dinner. When he took her up on it, she told me and said that she would go with the flow if he tried to fuck her. That was hot and I was waiting in suspense, as I was out of the country working at the time.

It took awhile to pry the details out of her, both by phone and by emails. They went to dinner at a local pub and drank quite a bit of wine. He invited her back to his apartment to "listen to music" and once they got there he produced some pot and they smoked a bit of it. He had "smooth jazz" on and invited her to slow dance. Of course that was an opportunity to run his hands all over her back and ass. She told me she was still a little reluctant. He kissed her and sat her down on the couch. Then he offered to give her a massage, tried and true method of seducers. Of course he had no idea about what my wife and I had been discussing - he was trying to seduce a tipsy married woman 20 years older than him.

He got her on his bed and began to use lotion to rub her back as he had pulled up her top. Soon he had her top and bra completely off and her skirt pulled up. This is how she described it:

He turned me over and began to rub my back. Long, and gently. It felt so good. I was so relaxed and high. I wanted him to go on and on. I could feel myself getting wet. His hands moved to my buttocks, he squeezed them and began to rub them, slightly parting them as he massaged them. It felt so good.
"Nice ass I could do this forever. Hmmmmm, you feel so good. Do you like what i am doing? Let me know how you want me to rub them. I am at your service." Then he got up and pulled his pants down. I turned my head and saw his dick hard and big. He was so endowed. Then he spread his legs over my body and began to massage me. I felt his cock over my buttocks as he moved. His hands moved down to my legs and feet. He was massaging every part of my body. Then suddently he turned me over and began to massage my thighs spreading them as he massaged. His fingers discreetly touching my vagina. It was so wet, i was afraid he'd see that. He kept teasing it and massaging. I let out a moan. He heard me and he leaned over and kissed me. As we kissed, his hand was spreading my thighs and he found the clitoris. He started rubbing it gently, it was so wet.
He rubbed it long and gently while his lips were all over my neck and tits. I was really getting wet and dripping i thought, I was going to come but i didn't want him to stop. So I came without telling him. "I have always wanted to fuck you, girl" He was as high as a kite and horny as hell. He was so erect and I could tell he wanted me. I grabbed his penis and guided him into me. Man, did he feel good. He filled me up good. We began to fuck me slowly and hard. He was as hot as i was. It seemed like hours before we both came together!

safado wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:27 pm

Since you liked it, here are more details. She had been flirting with her boss, having lunch with him, but he never took the bait. She had finally agreed she would fuck a guy if the opportunity arose and she found him attractive enough. This other guy had been flirting with her for a long time, made crude compliments about her ass and nicer ones about how she dressed. He told her how much he loved older women. She was 53 at the time but in good shape, a curvy brown Indian bhabi. He was about 20 years younger, Hispanic.

He was leaving town to take a job in the city of his birth. She had casually told him that she would buy him a goodbye dinner. When he took her up on it, she told me and said that she would go with the flow if he tried to fuck her. That was hot and I was waiting in suspense, as I was out of the country working at the time.

It took awhile to pry the details out of her, both by phone and by emails. They went to dinner at a local pub and drank quite a bit of wine. He invited her back to his apartment to "listen to music" and once they got there he produced some pot and they smoked a bit of it. He had "smooth jazz" on and invited her to slow dance. Of course that was an opportunity to run his hands all over her back and ass. She told me she was still a little reluctant. He kissed her and sat her down on the couch. Then he offered to give her a massage, tried and true method of seducers. Of course he had no idea about what my wife and I had been discussing - he was trying to seduce a tipsy married woman 20 years older than him.

He got her on his bed and began to use lotion to rub her back as he had pulled up her top. Soon he had her top and bra completely off and her skirt pulled up. This is how she described it:

Thanks for that, great story.