SEDUCING LOVERS IN A CONSERVATIVE SOCIETY: HOPING TO MOVE FROM FANTASY TO REALITY

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Re: SEDUCING LOVERS IN A CONSERVATIVE SOCIETY: HOPING TO MOVE FROM FANTASY TO REALITY

Unread post by thesvs_09 » Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:40 am

As I had said earlier, I would be vetting Kaka and get to know him. For this, I made a list of few old text books of Engineering and Physics that my father used to study, and went to Kaka this morning to check if he has one. Of course, he didn't. Hard cover copies of some of these books are hard to find. But I kind of bribed him to make them available. Apart from fantasy aspect, I always wanted to have these old books. My father studies from them.

My interaction with Kaka:
Today is Saturday, and there were very less customer especially in the morning. We chatted (he blabbered and I listened) for close to 4 hours. [He fucking wasted my 4 good morning hours on his childhood stories, the age of his shop, changes in society now, his not so good relationship with his son and daughter-in-law, and fucking Reynolds 045 pen.]

However, I got to know few details:
1. He has met Divya a few times. He said she is too "into herself", and more or less tell me she has a "loose character". Not directly, but he hinted on it. He did not like how Divya dresses. He says (or thinks) 'hot dresses' works for Bollywood beauties only.
Kaka: Common women cannot carry such dresses with elegance. They always come off as cheap.
And indirectly told me to control her. A bit misogynistic. I should have guessed this by his age, and since he has not been to any big cities, his thinking is sheltered from modern lifestyle.
SV: How come ? I think people can wear what they want. Don't they ?
Kaka: Of course they can. Anybody can judge them too. It is free country.
SV: Ha.. Yes.
Kaka: My point was that actresses try to show off maximum skin and hotness. Their dresses are properly designed for this only. And actresses have training to carry these dresses confidently. But common women cannot show that much skin in general setting. So they opt for dresses that tease some skin here and there. But this comes off as cheap try to me. I mean either you can be a "classy lady" with traditional attire and beauty, or "bold woman" with modern slutty beauty. I don't like cheap women teasing and trying to seduce or just being bitchy for no reason whatsoever, thinking they can get what they want showing few glimpses of armpits. Look woman, you are not some actress, you are in a trashy sleeveless outfit, doing cheap tactics for a few bucks and diminishing the morality of the society. No good man cares about your armpits. Haha...
SV: Hmm... [What ? Is he talking about Divya ? Or is daughter-in-law, who in the family picture hanging in the shop wore a sleeveless top with jeans ? Probably about women general. Definitely sexist. ]

2. He is into some weird "dark magic", "tantrika" , "omens" and all. He thinks his daughter-in-law is doing something to his son, creating rifts between his family. He even gave me tips to perform certain rituals to shield myself from bad souls. He had few interesting stories of certain crazy people of the colony, way back to 1960s. He looked also very religious.

3. He has good relations with almost every who's who of the township and railways authorities. He wished me good luck, and hoped I would administer better than my predecessors, who were all corrupt. Overall, he is a bit eccentric, and has some weird or old way of thinking, but his vibe was not bad at all. It looked like he wants good for his township, his city, his people etc. I told him he could be a politician and fight an election. "I don't want to stoop to the level of pigs. Anyways, I want good for everybody. Which politician wants that ?" was his reply. I had several arguments but I did not want an hour of discussion on local politics.


My interaction with Divya afterwards:
She was not amused being called cheap.
DV: You should have defended me.
SV: What ? When were you attacked ?
DV: He called my outfits trash, me cheap trying to get attention. You were there like hmmm.... DO you agree with this shit ?
SV: Last part is not far off the truth.
DV: ??
SV: You were trying to get attention part.
DV: No. I did not. Not with that old bastard. What does he thinks of himself ? Some sage or something.
SV: The way he is into some rituals and books, he may very well be an incarnation of some old sage. Haha....Hmm...
DV: What haha.....
SV: I envisioned you trying to seduce him by dancing hot around him....and he is deep into some worship/penance ritual trying to avoid you. Like in (Hindu) mythology, some angels were used to send to dark sages to seduce them (honeytrap) and stop them with their worship. Otherwise once worship completes, that person will ask evil things from pleased God as a boon.
DV: Oh God.... I have no time for your non-sense right now. I have to go pick up Sukanya from school. But in this imagination, what dress I was wearing ?
SV: I was more into dance. I did not fully imagined the dress. But wait I can....see some hot....sleazing....
DV: I will probably wear full length saree and blouse, with a veil. That's how he thinks a common woman should dress. Doesn't he ?
SV: Probably. But he likes actresses too. The other side of pendulum is more exciting.
DV: Exciting to you ?
SV: Yes. And him too. Technically, he has no problem with bold dresses and skin show. I think he had problem with not doing it properly. Properly like actresses.
DV: So, if one has to dress hot, she has to be all in. Or just be traditional.
SV: Looked so to me. I had just a few hours talk with him. I don't know his ethics and thinking that much. Don't pester me.
DV: It looks like it is either Burqa or Bikini.
SV: What ?
DV: The extreme ends of pendulum.
SV: Oh. No. Other extreme end would be 'fully nude'.
DV: [smiling] I guess you are correct. Now, stop with this in middle of afternoon, and come with me to pick up Sukanya. You look pretty free.
SV: You go. I think I can get my hands dirty.
DV: You going to jerk off ?
SV: No. I will write about this.
DV: Oh. Okay. Don't jerk off though. If you want me dancing for you at night in an attire from the extreme side of pendulum.
SV: Hot....which side ?
DV: Depends on my mood, and your behaviour.
SV: But you don't have Burqa. [smirking]
DV: I can get some dress or make one that won't show an inch of my skin. Now, that you are challenging me with your smirk, I think I should.
SV: No.. No...I am not challenging. I was just stating the fact.
DV: Yes. Thanks for that. I have to come up with something. You won't forget my dance baby.
SV: Can we prepone it to, say, 4PM evening ?
DV: Haha... Nope. Wait for the night. And remove your hands from your dick. I want Mr. Hardy all charged up tonight. ;)
Can you point to where the big bang happened ? Yes. Everywhere.
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Re: SEDUCING LOVERS IN A CONSERVATIVE SOCIETY: HOPING TO MOVE FROM FANTASY TO REALITY

Unread post by Coolcalm » Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:50 am

Your wife is so seductive! I’m loving your journey.

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Unread post by MatureCouple » Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:11 am

So do you have a plan for Prateek? Have you been "talking him up" with Divya? Planting seeds? Can you get him to come to your home without being too obvious? Or do you and Divya meet him outside the home? At a club? Can you encourage him to be flirtatious with Divya or vice-versa? Maybe challenge Divya to seduce him?

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Re: SEDUCING LOVERS IN A CONSERVATIVE SOCIETY: HOPING TO MOVE FROM FANTASY TO REALITY

Unread post by thesvs_09 » Mon Mar 24, 2025 12:04 am

MatureCouple wrote:
Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:11 am
So do you have a plan for Prateek? Have you been "talking him up" with Divya?
Honestly, no proper plans right now. Prateek is very junior to me in hierarchy, and in different department. I rarely talk to him at the office. He was assigned to me as private secretary in initial days to help me settle into our house and office. I befriended him then. But still, most of our talks, if any, are very formal.
MatureCouple wrote:
Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:11 am
Can you get him to come to your home without being too obvious?
I will have to devise something.
MatureCouple wrote:
Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:11 am
do you and Divya meet him outside the home? At a club?
Nope. It is a tier-II town in India. And we mostly live inside our colony. There are no clubs/pubs or any social party place here. Only parks and temples. Only social events that are organized here are religious festivals. Also, inside colony alcohol is banned (Not that we drink. Divya has never drink any hard beverage. I drink only in high level meetings and after party in New Delhi). Most people here are simple family persons - they go to office, come home, play in park and enjoy during festivals. Also no lifestyle/dating Apps.
Getting to move forward with this kink is going to be very tough task here. Sometimes I like the challenge part - there is very less chance to get successful. But if we (or I) did manage, I think will jerk off few times just to enjoy the success. Also, by nature I am a relaxed and lazy type of person. So, when I feel low, I think may be it is too much of a hassle for a kink. I don't know.
Like this Saturday, I had to get up early on holiday and go to Kaka's shop in the morning. There he wasted 4-5 hours. I did get some info, but at the same time I was thinking was it worth it ?
MatureCouple wrote:
Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:11 am
Can you encourage him to be flirtatious with Divya or vice-versa? Maybe challenge Divya to seduce him?
I have challenged Divya to try to seduce him. But the problem is with busy life, and circumstances I tell above, she meets him only during festivals. This Holi was her second meeting with him after January first week when he helped us move into our new home.
Can you point to where the big bang happened ? Yes. Everywhere.
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Unread post by MatureCouple » Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:02 am

Hmm, could you get Prateek to be reassigned as your private secretary? Would that not make it so much easier to get him to come to your home?

I do understand the frustration with the kink, as we live in a very rural area. It's exhausting trying to find the right person, especially near our age.

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Re: SEDUCING LOVERS IN A CONSERVATIVE SOCIETY: HOPING TO MOVE FROM FANTASY TO REALITY

Unread post by thesvs_09 » Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:22 pm

MatureCouple wrote:
Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:02 am
could you get Prateek to be reassigned as your private secretary?
I am in finance department, with few additional general administration tasks given. Prateek works in HR. HR Dept decides who and when an officer needs private secretary. Technically, I do not. I have mostly junior finance guys and clerks for general work, reports etc. AI tools are big help too.
When I travel to Delhi for meetings, and conferences, I can demand an 'event secretary' from HR Dept, and probably can get assigned Prateek too. But then Divya cannot go to Delhi, so that becomes a moo point. [Sukanya is now school going big girl, as per her. She cannot bunk her classes. Hence, Divya will never agree to travel.]
Can you point to where the big bang happened ? Yes. Everywhere.
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Unread post by thesvs_09 » Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:15 pm

Now, I have been ignoring Kaka from Sunday. I had asked him to arrange few old engineering books in hard cover, and in disguise of this I had went to his shop last Saturday to know more about him. From Sunday onwards, he is bugging/ringing me and I do not want to attend to that chatterbox. But today, he called Divya to arrange a meeting with me and him. I am at the office currently, and abridged excerpts from my chat/call with Divya is as following:

DV: Mr. Suvil, enough circumventing! When can you meet Kaka ? He has located few of your books in Kolkata, and want to discuss specifics and transportation etc. Meet him after office.
SV: Oh no. No. He will waste my 3-4 hours for a few minutes specifics.
DV: Haha... What can I do ? You took this problem by yourself. I had told you earlier he is different. But he is resourceful. He will get you those books.
SV: I know. My half reason to go there was books only.
DV: Oh... I believe you!
SV: I smell sarcasm.
DV: Your nose, your prerogative, your smell. What was other half reason ?
SV: You know damn well.
DV: Haha.... You are becoming a typical Indian 'aunty', whose sole focus is arranged 'matchmaking'.
SV: Huh! Things I do for you!
DV: Me ? I believe you!
SV: Again I am smelling sarcasm.
DV: Keep smelling. But it is more for you than me. I don't mind attention though.
SV: It is 50/50. You will like it too.
DV: May be. But it is more of your fantasy. Tell me had I given you a hot blowjob on that Saturday morning, would you have gone to Kaka's ?
SV: Hmm.... probably no.
DV: See. If you don't want something during post-nut clarity, you don't want it from the bottom of your heart.
SV: Huh! I would not have gone to Kaka after blowjob because it would have drained my energy.
DV: Of course! Getting a blowjob while sitting comfortably drains yours energy. I believe you!
SV: Haha....I do not smell any sarcasm here.
DV: Haha.....I may agree that this fantasy cannot come closer to things that are at the bottom of my heart, but it surely does stand at the top of my head. It is equally as important!
DV: :?:
SV: Okay. Slightly less important.
DV: Of course, brain is as important as an organ as heart! I can understand.
SV: Oh...not brain baby. Top of my dick head!
DV: :|
SV: Okay. I got to go. Tell Kaka, I am busy till financial year ends on March 31.
DV: Told him. He is busy after. He arranges tents and volunteers for Navaratri festival.
SV: Then ? Tell him I can meet after April 10.
DV: No need to delay such auspicious thing. I am going. In fact, I am on the way! Almost reached.
SV: What ?
DV: When you do so much for me....I thought I should reciprocate.
SV: When did you ? I mean where are you now ?
DV: Inside a Tuk-Tuk. Told you almost reached. I will send QR code of auto driver on WhatsApp. Pay him Rs 20.
SV: :o
DV: You may have to pick up Sukanya from School too. I may get late.
SV: What ?
DV: You know baby...Kaka is a chatterbox. Plus I got your list and we will dissect every book and where we can find it.
SV: But how did you decide to go there ? Did Kaka asked you to come ? What happened ?
DV: Too many questions. Now, it is way past my screen time. Talk to you at home. Bye. Anyways, you look surprised and slightly irked. Bye.
SV: I am not angry. Wait. Fuck.
DV: Okay shoot one question. Think carefully. I won't answer any long 'explain' type question.
SV: Hmm....(after a minute of pondering) What are you wearing ?
DV: LOL
SV: What ?
DV: So, the blood has reached at the top of your head...sorry 'dick head'.
SV: Answer.
DV: Do you want written answer or a visual one ?
SV: Hmm....you are on fire baby. What got inside you ?
DV: Currently nothing is inside me. But I am craving for something hard.
SV: :o
DV: Time's up. I will send a visual treat once Tuk-Tuk stops.
After a few minutes, she sends a photo of herself in traditional Eastern Bengali saree. She looked very beautiful. But not bold or sexy.

DV: You there ? Is my dress tame ? Uninspiring ? You were expecting something else.
SV: You are looking very beautiful.
DV: But not ravishing ?
SV: No.
DV: This is my first date with Kaka. I did not want something revealing.
SV: Date ? First date ?
DV: Haha. Don't you think ? It is kind of, no ? Actually, it is my first 'properly arranged' date with him. We've met before.
SV: Arranged date ?
DV: Yes. My matchmaker aunty Mrs. Suvil has arranged it. She is busy so cannot come along with me. But it is fine.
SV: :|
DV: Haha.....Okay bye.
SV: Wait. Baby. What would you talk ? How would you impress him ? What is in your mind ?
DV: I have a lot in my mind baby.
SV: Then, explain.
DV: No 'explaining' on phone. Told you earlier. My fingers are now paining.
SV: Okay. But tell something.
DV: We will probably talk about books. You know.
SV: __?
DV: Then, we will see. He may probably offer something to eat.
SV: What books ? What will he offer ?
DV: Old engineering books. And how will I know what he offers to eat ? I did not ask. I like my surprises. Unlike you mister, who tries to micro-manage everything.
SV: Hmm... will there be crowd at the shop ?
DV: May be. May be not. Don't try to play God baby. You cannot control everything.
SV: I am not controlling everything. Just want to know.
DV: But first let me know. You are asking things that I don't know. Only God knows.
SV: I thought may be you discussed something with him.
DV: Then, it's private.
SV: :shock:
DV: Don't worry. Whatever happens, for me you will always be the one above all. Bye.

After a few minutes,
SV: Hey! Where are you ? Do you know that in Marvel Comics/Universe 'The One Above All' is basically God ?
DV: I know. And you did not had to throw it at my face. Some subtleties should remain unsaid, yet understood.
SV: Oh... You really are on fire today baby.
DV: Haha...And now I am hot too. And sweaty. There are some customers at the shop. Kaka is dealing with them. I am sitting below the fan, but it is hot. Should not have dressed in so heavy saree.
SV: Haha...So your date has no time for you. He stood you up.
DV: May be he is taking revenge on me for your callous ignorance of his calls past 3 days.
SV: Haha... How come anything happens to wife, if it is bad, it is always husband's fault ?
DV: That is a philosophical question. I have no time for this. However, Kaka just smiled at me, and I melted. Your day just got better.
SV: Haha.... I am enjoying this.
DV: The hell. He just asked me the list, and told me to sit in a corner. Now he is studying your fucking list with his helper, and some customer.
SV: Haha.... I am enjoying this too.
DV: I am being ignored ruthlessly.
SV: Hahaha... Kaka got style baby.
DV: :mad:
SV: One last question. Did Kaka offered you any cool drink or snacks ?
DV: Fuck you.
SV: Hahaha.... I wish you were here to fuck. But anyways, I am enjoying this also. So much so that I just leaked pre-cum. Going to bathroom baby.
DV: Bye.
SV: Bye. If something interesting happens, inform me immediately. I will jerk off to that too.
DV: Fuck off!
Can you point to where the big bang happened ? Yes. Everywhere.
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Re: SEDUCING LOVERS IN A CONSERVATIVE SOCIETY: HOPING TO MOVE FROM FANTASY TO REALITY

Unread post by Coolcalm » Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:48 am

This thread is amazing. Your wife has me so turned on!

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Unread post by MatureCouple » Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:32 pm

Suvil, I know life can get very busy, and I hope all is well with you and yours.

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Unread post by thesvs_09 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:51 pm

1. I have been logging into the site to update now and then, but could not do so because - I don't think anything worthy telling has happened.

However, we had a few contacts with the 'potential' candidates in the meantime, specially Kaka has met Divya a few times since March (mostly because April marks the new sessions for young school kids. Sukanya has successfully conquered Kindergarten level - and on to next quests. Kaka's shop being the only one to provide standard books/school dresses within the colony, Divya had to go there.) I will shortly debrief small incidents in next update possibly tonight.

2. We had ran into some Mexican standoff and few minor fights also happened between myself and Divya - Reason being some ludicrous behaviour and non-sensical talks/mannerism of Kaka. I will give details, but I must warn details are not sexy. In fact, impasse topic is not even related to core theme of this site.

3. I was also very busy due to end of financial year requires all audit works to be completed. Now that has happened, I am more relaxed and now can focus on the fantasy part goals (I don't think Divya is actually motivated to do something - she likes to be hot, bold and confident, but is not really desperate to find some lover or seduce someone mainly because she is very busy and honestly lazy. If I want to carry on with this, I will have to stir the pot and keep stirring.)

I have been thinking about this lately - I think major part of my motivation to move Divya towards this has become ego. I am certainly sure that if something happens, I will enjoy sexually too. But major dopamine rush will be from - "I made that happen!"
The ego part comes from the fact that in my life I have not failed at anything. I don't want to fail at this. But it is obviously not in my control cent percent, Divya has to play some good role here. And I sometimes get mildly irritated when she doesn't put in her efforts.
There is a saying in Divya's mother tongue whose rough and crude translation is - "Doing things just for the dick/lust has its dangers, but doing just for the ego is always dangerous".
Can you point to where the big bang happened ? Yes. Everywhere.
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Unread post by thesvs_09 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:50 pm

Finally a long weekend of holidays. Sadly, Divya and Sukanya have gone Nani's (Divya's mother; maternal grandmother is called 'Nani' in Hindi) for a week. I have some time to reflect and write. I will try to briefly describe few things that happened past 30-35 days, some of them are not related to hotwife or any sexy fantasy, so I warn about it and apologize beforehand.

1. Kaka 01 (March 27): Her so called date with Kaka did not went well. In fact, he did not even talk to her apart from professional requirements. She did manage to locate the books though. But Divya was feeling ignored and felt like her dressing good etc. took a lot of time with no results.

SV: So, my sexy wife could not even get a proper sexy gaze from her date. Oh my Kaka! Hahaha.
DV: Do you want to sleep on couch today ?
SV: Yes, after we have proper sex 2 times.
DV: Fuck off. (She was putting plates on dining table for dinner. She banged the plate on table slightly forcefully showing some cute anger)
SV: Hmm.... Anyways. Tell me something interesting that happened other than you sitting in a corner waiting for your turn with Kaka.
DV: You will pay dearly for these backhanded tongue-in-cheeks. Remember that.
SV: So, no interesting thing. Understood.
DV: Nope. He did not even acknowledge me as a customer like he was talking sweetly to his other customers. He just took the list from me, told me to sit on a bench at a corner. He located the books. Most irritating was he discussed retrieval/buying of those books with his 2 other customers, and not me. When done, he gave me back the list and said he will talk to you about details later.
SV: He did not talk to me. No messages whatsoever.
DV: Are you listening to me ? He treated me like a menial servant or like some silly girl who may not understand intricacies of his fucking books, so he did not even bother to tell me anything.
SV: Hmm.... May be he was busy.
DV: Of course he was - with 2-3 other customers. If there are 4 customers in your shop, you cannot give all the attention to 3 and ignore completely the one. Especially if the person you ignore is the only woman there. It sounds and is extremely misogynistic. Fuck Kaka.
SV: Yea, that was the plan - Fucking Kaka. Looks like he has more interest in men than a sexy hot willing lady. His loss.
DV: It is beyond repulsive. I was not demanding some princess or girlfriend like treatment. But he should have decency to treat me like a person or customer.
SV: Of course.
DV: He did not even ask me water.
SV: Did he ask others ?
DV: No. But there was a small water cooler at the back of the shop, and those customers went by themselves and had water.
SV: You should have take water by yourselves then. Why wait for his permission ?
DV: Because it is common etiquettes.
SV: So those other customers did not have etiquettes.
DV: The way Kaka was talking and pandering to them, they looked like his old customers and probably friends.
SV: So, to take water from Kaka's den, one has to be his friend.
DV: You are so useless. You are twisting topics. The whole point is not about friendship. It is about basic common etiquettes as a shop owner and as a human being.
SV: Got it.
DV: What 'got it' ? Say something that lifts my mood.
SV: What do I say ? Next time you go there make Kaka aware of your complaints with his behaviour.
DV: There won't be any next time. (I touched her ear and it was warm and slightly red. Divya's ear get reddish and warm when she is in anger or feels embarrassment. They are like antenna signaling you when is she really angry or humiliated, and when she is just playing.)
SV: Fair enough! Remain this angry and hot. I just need to wash hands and brush my teeth before some good night action.
DV: I am not angry.
SV: Your ears tells different story.
DV: Fuck my ears. :evil:
SV: Challenge accepted.
DV: What ?
SV: I am thinking your ears are demanding my sweet cum to calm down. My dick rubbing against those ears will transfer thermal energy from them to the dick.
DV: You are such a disgusting filth. How can someone think this non-sense ?
SV: You are asking wrong question. The real scientific question is - Whether transverse or longitudinal rubbing of dick on your ear will create better gradient and provide quicker transfer of heat ? It is mechanical engineering level stuff babe. I think we will have to do practical.
DV: I am not putting your dick on my ear. Fuck off. Anyways a hard dick is already warm enough. So, no gradient and no heat transfer. Zeroth law of thermodynamics.
SV: Wao....amazing. You tick all my veins on the dick - a real beauty with brain, with heart big enough to pursue fantasies. But heat transfer is governed by the second law of thermodynamics. Zeroth law just defines temperature.
DV: Oh.
SV: As an engineer, I understood your point though. We need a colder organ to transfer heat more efficiently and cool down your ears. I remember that male scrotum is outside the body to give cooler temperature to sperms. Hence, it is better if I put my balls on your ears. Blessing in disguise will be that my dick will be resting on your cheeks free for you to lick, smell and play with.
DV: Haha.... Mr. Engineer, go wash your hands and give some rest to your brain. I have to help Sukanya for her homework. Anyways, now that I remember second law of thermodynamics states the higher the temperature difference, more will be heat transfer from hot to a colder body. So, I will just put ice on my ears. Thank you for your concerns and suggestions. :whip:
SV: I will be waiting. Complete the homework ASAP.

2. Kaka (March 30, first day of Navaratri): Eastern India celebrates Navaratri (a 09 days festival for 09 incarnations of Goddess Durga) with a zeal. Our colony sets up Pandals (temporary tents with food, temple and performance stage for artists), usually by volunteers, governed by a committee of Pundits and local elders. Kaka, being a prominent member of the community, was also in the committee. Divya was an enthusiastic volunteer. That day, Kaka met Divya. The committee members were showing the new arrangements and upgrades in Pandal management to the chairman of company and the administration team (I am finance secretary, so I was there too). Kaka was leading the committee (in talks only. He is very talkative as I have told earlier. But he is probably the least important member of the committee). Divya with many girls were decorating the Goddess idol (Divya was just standing and learning; as she is not local so she does not know how to traditionally decorate the idol). Kaka called Divya to explain to the chairman what new technologies they were implementing for better arrangements. Divya explained nicely with help from Kaka. After that we (administration team) moved on to food arrangements checking with other members of committee. When I looked back Divya was still talking to Kaka. Slightly warm smiles and all. After inspection, I went to the office, but my mind was there.
Divya told me about their talks later at night.

SV: Who started the talk first ?
DV: Who do you think ?
SV: Must be Kaka. You have enough self-respect.
DV: It was me. I told him about the lunch break we girls were going to take after the inspection team goes away. I was being professional.
SV: Hmmm... then. Carry on.
DV: He told me okay.
SV: ___?? Then what ? I saw you two talking for a few minutes.
DV: Oh! You want full version.
SV: Duh!
DV: Listen then.....

Kaka: This year's arrangement is more secure and ergonomic. Good work ladies.
DV: Thank You.
Kaka: How do you personally like this ? I mean the fervour of festival, the buzz and all.
DV: It is nice. Very new and exciting experience.
Kaka: Good to know. I am seeing you have been quite adept at draping traditional saree.
DV: Oh. I don't think so. But I am learning. (Divya was wearing traditional Bengali saree with a 3/4th sleeves blouse and a big red Bindi)
Kaka: Ah.. Don't stress too much. Just be yourself. Focusing too much on integrating into a culture artificially sometimes backfires. Just be good and kind, people will like and accept you.
DV: Hmm...
Kaka: I am not discouraging you to wear traditional dresses. I am just saying don't lose yourself in the process and create unnecessary expectations out of you.
DV: Hmmm...
Kaka: Yea. Think like this. If Katrina Kaif (a Bollywood actress) starts wearing Marathi dresses only, people will not like her. They will call her fake. She is good in slutty outfits. That is her essence.
DV: Yea. Understood. Thumbs up for the advice!
Kaka: Okay. Enjoy food.

SV: That's it.
DV: Yea. It was mostly him talking.
SV: Yes, and you blushing.
DV: Haha... very funny. I was not getting what he was insinuating ?
SV: Looks like he was saying you to wear hot dresses, and not traditional ones.
DV: He did not say so. I think he was simply saying do not stress too much with Bengali sarees. They are complex and heavy. From far off I may have looked like uncomfortable. He may be concerned that I am not enjoying festival, instead my focus is managing my saree to the perfection.
SV: Or, he was appalled that you were not showing enough skin. Katrina Kaif is good only in slutty clothes.
DV: That was weird example. He talks so much it is difficult to keep up with him and his analogies.
SV: Hmm... But this one looks clear to me. He wants you hot.
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Re: SEDUCING LOVERS IN A CONSERVATIVE SOCIETY: HOPING TO MOVE FROM FANTASY TO REALITY

Unread post by thesvs_09 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:26 am

3. Kaka (07 or 08th April): Daily volunteering of Divya for few hours got her into the limelight, especially her being the wife of finance sec, and Kaka was quick to try to befriend her realizing her aura. Divya was not enthusiastic around Kaka, but she wasn't too cold either. One evening while playing with Sukanya, I noticed a black thread around her index finger with one black pearl looking thing. I enquired about it from Sukanya and she said "Mummy has given her. It will bring good fortune to me." I was like okay. Though did not like this.
I talked about this with Divya later at night. [I am not into such things like astrology, horoscopes, tantrika, etc. I try to stay away from this as neither I can prove nor disprove such pseudo-sciences]
Divya said Kaka has given it to her for good fortune.

DV: He goes to this Goddess Kali temple. He performs some rituals, and the priest makes these small thread rings with black pearl. This year wife of the chairman had requested it for herself, and he made some extra rings. When he saw Sukanya on 7th day (day of Goddess Kali), he offered this to her. Even performed some mantras.
SV: Goddess Kali ? I mean then this would technically be not for good fortune, no ? [Goddess Kali is the fiercest/violent incarnation/form of Durga. In Hinduism, she is basically merciless destroyer of the evil, and represents the darkness of time. I may be somewhat wrong, but this is the gist.]
DV: Hmm...
SV: What hmm.... (angrily) and he made Sukanya wear this while chanting mantras.
DV: Yes. Look it is done with good faith. Yes, technically the thread ring is supposed to neuter the enemies of Sukanya. And bring her out of darkness.
SV: What darkness a 6 year old is into ? And who are her enemies ? If you wanted her something, you should have bought positive reinforcement things. Not directly approach black magic and Goddess Kali. [In Hindu mythology, smaller gods and kings approach Kali only when other options have been tried and failed, and demon can be killed only through violence.]
DV: I was not looking for buying something like this. We were just there when Kaka was giving ring to some ladies. He saw Sukanya, offered this, and she accepted.
SV: She accepted ? And you were just there standing ?
DV: What was I supposed to do ? Deny outrightly.
SV: Deny diplomatically. Yes.
DV: It is a small ring, made of a thread. It will probably wear off in a while. Don't take it too seriously.
SV: The rituals behind it make it serious. I don't want Sukanya growing up thinking all her problems will die with such tactics.
DV: Oh come on! She will not become some paranoid due to this. She is intelligent girl. Sometimes such things give you positive energy to tackle the problems, that is all.
SV: That is my point. This is not positive energy thing. This is dark black magic to kill the darkness/evil. Who in his fucking right mind accepts such tantrika things, specially for a child ?
DV: Don't shout. I will talk to Kaka and ask him to remove this.
SV: And remind him very clearly to not include my daughter in such things ever.

Next Night

DV: I talked to him.
SV: Kaka ?
DV: Yes. And he said to remove it, we will have to go to Kalratri temple just outside the town, do some worship and rituals, and then the priest will burn it off.
SV: This is why I am against such things. It causes unnecessary wastage of time.
DV: Hmm... I would have gone by myself, but since she is child, ritual requires the father to be present.
SV: Of course.
DV: Honestly, I don't know why you are so against it. Yes, it is not exactly a positivity thing as you say. But this is fragile thread ring. It will probably just fall in a month or two. And Sukanya will not get into some deep ass tantrika because of this.
SV: Probably true. But the premise is wrong. Such things are done when some evil power is attacking you or something. Then, we summon Goddess Kali. I think every ritual has meaning, even if I don't believe it in fully.
DV: I think you are just getting too paranoid.
SV: And doing black magic etc. is the work of stable scientific mind ?
DV: I did not do any magic.
SV: You accepted its products though.
DV: How was I supposed to deny ? Could I have accepted it for myself ?
SV: Probably better than involving my daughter into this....
DV: She is my daughter too.


This was impasse I earlier talked about. I don't know what could be the best course regarding this ring. I am just waiting it to degrade naturally. Now, I can remove it easily without rituals, but then even if some minor injury happens to Sukanya, I will curse myself and probably think it is because of illegal removal of the ring. This is why I don't like superstitions. I neither believe in them, nor disbelieve. I try to stay away from it. Same with ghosts/witches. I don't believe in them either. But I am not the person who will go to a haunted place just to prove that ghosts does not exist.

From 10 April to 22 April, Divya has met with Kaka three times (One time to take delivery of few of my books, Two times for Sukanya's new session books and school dress). However, after this fiasco, I was pretty disillusioned with Kaka. I did not ask her how it went and all. My anger subsided slowly, but I am still irritated with the ring. We started talking on most things eventually (except the ring). Last night (she had to go to her mother's this morning, so she was horny before the departure) we enjoyed proper sex after a long time - and during cuddling she told me about some of 'interesting bits' about Kaka.
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I have been continuously getting '502 Bad Gateway' error on this site since 2 days. Not sure why. If anyone has information, please let me know. Thank you.
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Unread post by thesvs_09 » Tue May 06, 2025 7:04 am

Okay. Tensions between India and Pakistan are at high point after Pahalgam attack 2 weeks back inside Indian Kashmir. I will not delve into politics. It is also not allowed, and rightly so. All the social media now has been reduced to politics, propaganda, manipulation, tainted opinions on facts, right v left etc. However, being in critical services (Railways transportation), past few days have been really tense for me. I am in a position where critical materials transport financials through my region falls on me, but to know whether a war/skirmish will actually happen or not is way above my pay grade. Anyways, Prime Minister Modi has ordered civilian war preparedness and defense drills tomorrow. So, there is that. As I don't drink, and Divya is not here (she is at her mother's), so here I am - trying to divert my mind through some writing.

Kaka's opinions on us: My late night talk with Divya before her departure gave some insights into Kaka's mind.

During first or second encounter of Divya with Kaka (in February I think), Kaka asked her about me, her, our local village, etc. He also asked her about our kids and family planning (typical Indian uncle behaviour). He told Divya to make one more baby before she turns 35. Divya simply said she will see.
During these Navaratri talks and volunteer work of Divya, Kaka had commented on Divya's dress. Basically he did not like that Divya was carrying traditional Bengali saree. He was somewhat displeased and probably thought it is 'cultural appropriation' (though he may not know this term). He has suggested Divya to keep dressing like the Bollywood sluts (when we came here in January, Divya had wore many times sleeveless-half backless blouse and sarees, some deep cleavage gowns etc. She has toned down this as it is too much for our colony. Sadly, she gets unnecessary stares.) Divya did not like this commentary on her dressing sense, and confronted Kaka on last day of Navaratri. They had a good chat and Divya got to know few things about Kaka's thought process.

Kaka had deduced that I look like a typical workaholic man, and ignore Divya and my family life (to an extent this may be true. Though I do not ignore Divya, but I am usually very busy most of the month). Kaka observed Divya's mannerisms and deduced she wants a child. To seduce me, she dresses bold [How the turn tables ? Divya mostly dressed boldly to seduce some other hot guy with my blessings.] He observed that she mostly stopped this after Holi (March 14). He guessed that may be coitus happened and she was pregnant now. But during Navaratri, he saw Divya dressed traditionally and me greedily watching her (How the turn tables again ? I was mischievously watching her to see her interactions with males, while that old man was observing me.) Kaka thought that since our marriage is about 09 years old, I have now less interest in Divya and being in new place, I am probably getting hots for local Bengali women (some are hot I will not deny!). To entice me into her grips again, Divya is imitating local women. Kaka said that when he told Divya to dress like her, and not like local women, he wanted to convey that Divya is beautiful enough to seduce me for a second child. And also, if she gives oxygen to my attraction towards other women, I may start an affair (How the fuck ? And how the hell did he deduce that I want a Bengali woman now ?). He even offered to help Divya in getting me back on track (whatever that means :???: ). He gave her some tips too. Finally, he again blabbered about importance of having at least 2 children (and ranted that his daughter-in-law is delaying child for her job!).

Phew! When I heard this - my first thought was since Divya confronted him on face, he made a conspiracy theory to come out on top, and making me a villain :evil: . I had thought he would simply say that he liked seeing Divya in hot dresses, and want more of that. But he spun such a web that he ended up convincing Divya to accept his help in seducing me. When I asked Divya that night, what were the tips she got, Divya did not elaborate much and told she will tell me later.

As I have mentioned earlier, Divya doesn't talk that much on phone (max 5-6 minutes), neither she is much fan of messaging/WhatsApp so I have not been able to reverify/re-clarify some things. She has met Kaka one more time after this during event success lunch, and he again emphasized the need of second child, and also threw a minor rant about me focusing too much on job. He said when I will meet Kaka for books etc., he will try to get into my mind, and make me rekindle my love for Divya. During this, Divya simply smiled. However, she has asked me to play dumb and see what Kaka does and asks me to do.

Kaka has also suggested some changes to Divya, her dresses etc. When I asked details on call, her fucking 5 mins were over, and she said and I quote
DV: It would be good I show you his tips and suggestions, even better if I make some changes and you guess whether it was suggested by Kaka or it is my idea. If you answer it correctly, we will establish some reward.
SV: How would I know if you are telling the truth ? You could simply say it is you, while the plan was of Kaka's.
DV: You can ask Kaka.
SV: Like directly, hey old man what did you suggest to my wife ?
DV: No you fool....we are into a hot game now. Observe Kaka, and deduce what he may have suggested to me. Be a mind player baby.
SV: Hmm... hot game. Interesting. I am seeing game only, no hotness so far. Come on video call darling.
DV: I have to go. But I will send you a good pic for your patience. However, try not to waste sperms too much. I need all the semen for insemination.
SV: Insemination ?
DV: Of course. Kaka is right. It is time for a baby. And the first step for this is requirement of thick, dense, sticky viscous semen. This means reduced masturbation.
SV: What ? What about the game ? I don't think sperm counts changes much with density or viscosity of semen.
DV: It has some effects though. That is why usually doctors ask for abstinence before any sperm related tests, don't they ? Do some research about it. Anyways, this is part of the game. Consider pregnancy the last level, the boss level. :twisted:
SV: What are other levels then ?
DV: Time will tell.
SV: Is this all your idea ?
DV: What do you think ?
SV: Way too convoluted for it to be your creation. I smell Kaka.
DV: You think I am not intelligent enough for this. :roll:
SV: Nope. I did not say that.
DV: You implied it.
SV: I just said it does not look like your idea based on my understanding of you in past years.
DV: Oh... Then, your understanding is going to get a major update in coming weeks ;) . Love you. Bye.
SV: Wait.... so it is your idea ?
DV: Arrange a meeting with Kaka to know that. Bye.

That was few days ago. More updates coming soon.
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