If she knows you're all-in, why would she try to hide her research? I get that she is somewhat confused and embarrassed, maybe, but you've made it perfectly clear what turns you on so I'm not as certain as you, but you know her best and I'm just on the outside looking at very little, but maybe that is a perspective that will help you. I'd still suggest you talk to her about her covert actions, and if your suspicion is correct, then start researching together so she is comfortable with everything, ya never know, that could get her totally onboard.hope2explore wrote: ↑Fri May 16, 2025 5:06 amFunny. My mind didn't go to cheating or setting up something behind my back. I'm thinking she is exploring the fantasy online and trying to get an idea about it. Learning what a vixen Hotwife marriage is etc. She is very shy and direct conversations about sex have been uncomfortable for her because of beliefs about sex and what would be considered a most rural conservative background. The reason I am believing this is that she is still opening up more and pushing her personal boundaries more and more. Last night, she made a point of expressing disappointment that she wasn't up to giving me a blowjob even though I wasn't asked for, hinted at or anything. It was out of the blueDeeperlove1369 wrote: ↑Thu May 15, 2025 6:53 pm
Hiding things from you is not a good sign, unless you are both on board and she is playing games to tease you. If she is sneaking around, even if you think it is hot, it's going to end in disaster my friend. This lifestyle is about open communication, trust, and honesty to which, hiding things from you is a violation of all 3. When you are a team ans sharing the experience, it brings you closer together. When you are not, it tears you apart. There is no reason to sneak around or hide anything from you, so if she is, that's bad ju-ju. I'd have a very honest conversation with her. Good luck.
The history clearing also seems to be happening after a night a sex with Hotwife talk, almost like she is fact checking things I say or was looking at stuff before we had sex to get revved. She knows my feelings on cheating and knows that this is about us doing this together so I am fairly confident it is not anything nefarious that way, just shyness she is slowly overcoming.
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And there's the problem. "Fairly confident". Therein begins doubt, fear, and jealousy. Deeperlove is absolutely right. No matter how shy she is, the two of you really need to get a handle on this secrecy bit. It can be difficult, but once that level of communication really opens up, it will be wonderful, and will completely enable hotwifing.
That said, it IS possible she is already initiating things with someone, but hasn't "crossed the line" so to speak, so doesn't feel she's done anything wrong, but also doesn't want to be exposed. If that's the case, then there's train wreck in the future.
So, either way, this has to come out in the open.
That said, it IS possible she is already initiating things with someone, but hasn't "crossed the line" so to speak, so doesn't feel she's done anything wrong, but also doesn't want to be exposed. If that's the case, then there's train wreck in the future.
So, either way, this has to come out in the open.
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I wish posts had likes/dislikes. You get a thumbs-up from me bbarnsworth. We're both pulling for hope2explore, he appears to be on the brink of either basking on the beach or riding that train off the cliff.bbarnsworth wrote: ↑Fri May 16, 2025 5:22 pmAnd there's the problem. "Fairly confident". Therein begins doubt, fear, and jealousy. Deeperlove is absolutely right. No matter how shy she is, the two of you really need to get a handle on this secrecy bit. It can be difficult, but once that level of communication really opens up, it will be wonderful, and will completely enable hotwifing.
That said, it IS possible she is already initiating things with someone, but hasn't "crossed the line" so to speak, so doesn't feel she's done anything wrong, but also doesn't want to be exposed. If that's the case, then there's train wreck in the future.
So, either way, this has to come out in the open.
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Hey guys, really appreciate your comments and suggestions.
Things have been in a bit of a holding pattern so to speak. No much going on as there has been a need to attend to regular life stuff. We have continued with our regular sex routine, if you can call it that, and I have been purposely keeping it fairly middle of the road talk wise. The other day when I started to get heavy into it, she told me to "avoid the rabbit hole tonight and hurry up" as we had been going for sometime.
As it turns out, there have been a few non hotwife things that explain some of the observations I made lately about her behaviour. Might have been a mite of "fantasy lens" at play. The protectiveness of the phone was that she was planning a surprise gift for me (not a hotwife gift) and was communicating with the place setting it up. She has since returned to the normal not protective stance with her phone. The internet history is another thing but part of it was researching the surprise. The rest of the internet history clearing is due to a work software issue that she has openly been talking about and IT has informed her to clear the history regularly due to a cache issue. (seen the email inadvertently).
But, there is a real and valid portion of her hiding her searches about hotwifing, stag vixen, wife sharing etc. And, as hard as it is to understand, I truly accept this as necessary and it makes me hard as a rock knowing this is what she is doing. I figure that If I kept this fantasy from for almost 11 years before finally admitting it as I explored it to make sense for myself, I need to afford her the same ability to figure it out on her own. During those years, I was very secretive of my actions as I researched this and would be a hypocrite if I expected a different set of rules for her. I know this approaching is working as she is doing this at her pace and it is paying off as she is becoming more open to comments and talks about hotwifing and being open having experiences. I also am waiting for an opening to suggest that we set up a couple's email for exploring websites, X, forums etc together but want to give her more time to get herself up to speed first. We're not there yet, but definitely getting closer to this step and I have been purposely leaving hotwifing sites up on my iPad and phone for her to see as well as leaving my search histories tab open for her to find including my "special interest" bookmark. Basically, I am trying to let me know it is okay to be looking at this stuff.
I have brought up in the past that this is a mutual activity and not solo venture I am proposing and will continue to re-visit his. However, I will admit that the past few weeks I am finding myself turned on to the idea of her sprinting it on me that she has a pussy full of cum or sending me a pic of her and another guy. The point being, right now, she is aware that this is an idea about mutual / shared experiences. When I think back, I believe it was the "reclaiming" comment that might have nudged her more than I expected it would. Time will tell.
Things have been in a bit of a holding pattern so to speak. No much going on as there has been a need to attend to regular life stuff. We have continued with our regular sex routine, if you can call it that, and I have been purposely keeping it fairly middle of the road talk wise. The other day when I started to get heavy into it, she told me to "avoid the rabbit hole tonight and hurry up" as we had been going for sometime.
As it turns out, there have been a few non hotwife things that explain some of the observations I made lately about her behaviour. Might have been a mite of "fantasy lens" at play. The protectiveness of the phone was that she was planning a surprise gift for me (not a hotwife gift) and was communicating with the place setting it up. She has since returned to the normal not protective stance with her phone. The internet history is another thing but part of it was researching the surprise. The rest of the internet history clearing is due to a work software issue that she has openly been talking about and IT has informed her to clear the history regularly due to a cache issue. (seen the email inadvertently).
But, there is a real and valid portion of her hiding her searches about hotwifing, stag vixen, wife sharing etc. And, as hard as it is to understand, I truly accept this as necessary and it makes me hard as a rock knowing this is what she is doing. I figure that If I kept this fantasy from for almost 11 years before finally admitting it as I explored it to make sense for myself, I need to afford her the same ability to figure it out on her own. During those years, I was very secretive of my actions as I researched this and would be a hypocrite if I expected a different set of rules for her. I know this approaching is working as she is doing this at her pace and it is paying off as she is becoming more open to comments and talks about hotwifing and being open having experiences. I also am waiting for an opening to suggest that we set up a couple's email for exploring websites, X, forums etc together but want to give her more time to get herself up to speed first. We're not there yet, but definitely getting closer to this step and I have been purposely leaving hotwifing sites up on my iPad and phone for her to see as well as leaving my search histories tab open for her to find including my "special interest" bookmark. Basically, I am trying to let me know it is okay to be looking at this stuff.
I have brought up in the past that this is a mutual activity and not solo venture I am proposing and will continue to re-visit his. However, I will admit that the past few weeks I am finding myself turned on to the idea of her sprinting it on me that she has a pussy full of cum or sending me a pic of her and another guy. The point being, right now, she is aware that this is an idea about mutual / shared experiences. When I think back, I believe it was the "reclaiming" comment that might have nudged her more than I expected it would. Time will tell.
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A very fascinating turn of events. I just found your thread. Thank you for sharing. Tights? How sexy. Sheer, silky shine? What color?
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There were yoga type tights. A deep pink colour and not sheersilky nylons wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 8:59 amA very fascinating turn of events. I just found your thread. Thank you for sharing. Tights? How sexy. Sheer, silky shine? What color?
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it has been a rough week as we have had a cold go through our house so not much of anything happening.
Last night, as we relaxed on the couch, we decided to watch a movie. I took the chance and said let's watch "Babygirl" with Nicole Kidman knowing full well that it had the cheating wife storyline.We watched it and at times, my wife stated that it was hard to follow and not as good as expected but kept watching. After the movie, she said that it was weird but interesting.
We went to bed and as I was cuddled up next to her, I told her that the movie had a hotwife slant, although an extreme one in which the wife cheats, fesses up and the husband accepts the cheating and they carry on. No response. Then added that my hotwife fantasy isn't that extreme and is about shared experiences. As is normally the case, anytime I talk wiht her about hotwifing, I get hard and made sure to let her feel my hard cock against her ass. (if it wasn't for the cold holding on, I think I would have had a very wet pussy to enjoy)
So, I think in the coming week, I am going to send her a vixen hotwifing website / blog that I have been following to help her understand my hotwifing fantasy better. Might hint at signing up the site to explore the fantasy together, to see what we can do without involving another person, yet.
Last night, as we relaxed on the couch, we decided to watch a movie. I took the chance and said let's watch "Babygirl" with Nicole Kidman knowing full well that it had the cheating wife storyline.We watched it and at times, my wife stated that it was hard to follow and not as good as expected but kept watching. After the movie, she said that it was weird but interesting.
We went to bed and as I was cuddled up next to her, I told her that the movie had a hotwife slant, although an extreme one in which the wife cheats, fesses up and the husband accepts the cheating and they carry on. No response. Then added that my hotwife fantasy isn't that extreme and is about shared experiences. As is normally the case, anytime I talk wiht her about hotwifing, I get hard and made sure to let her feel my hard cock against her ass. (if it wasn't for the cold holding on, I think I would have had a very wet pussy to enjoy)
So, I think in the coming week, I am going to send her a vixen hotwifing website / blog that I have been following to help her understand my hotwifing fantasy better. Might hint at signing up the site to explore the fantasy together, to see what we can do without involving another person, yet.
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Past 72 hours have been interesting.
Both my wife and I have been slowly recovering from an illness that took the house by storm. Notice on Tuesday night that my wife was making a few comments with a subtle sexual overture. She even commented about joking with a contractor about him being a popular guy in demand, because his phone rang when they were talking about a job. Kicker is she was wearing a pair of shorts and a lower cut tank top during this exchange apparently.
Yesterday started with me whispering in her ear as I was leaving for the day that I wanted her. Last night, lots of innuendoes and she was very playful and touchy with me. She talked about going by a tile place recommended by a contractor. She made a point of saying it was “off the beaten track” and might be interesting to check out. In bed, told her that I hoping we are good to go for fun tomorrow, especially knowing how horny she is today. No denial. Asked her if I was wrong. She replied that “I’m not denying it”.
Today, much the same. At supper, she asked if I wanted any pickles with dinner. Told her sure and told her that I know you’re going to have a pickle aren’t you? She quickly said she’s not going to answer because my mind will make something up. Told her that it looks like your minds thinking about dirty about pickles already. Added that I know you like getting a pickle and like the idea of having more than one. No reply, no comment. But, she passed by me a few minutes later and made a point of caressing my side as she walked by.
Both my wife and I have been slowly recovering from an illness that took the house by storm. Notice on Tuesday night that my wife was making a few comments with a subtle sexual overture. She even commented about joking with a contractor about him being a popular guy in demand, because his phone rang when they were talking about a job. Kicker is she was wearing a pair of shorts and a lower cut tank top during this exchange apparently.
Yesterday started with me whispering in her ear as I was leaving for the day that I wanted her. Last night, lots of innuendoes and she was very playful and touchy with me. She talked about going by a tile place recommended by a contractor. She made a point of saying it was “off the beaten track” and might be interesting to check out. In bed, told her that I hoping we are good to go for fun tomorrow, especially knowing how horny she is today. No denial. Asked her if I was wrong. She replied that “I’m not denying it”.
Today, much the same. At supper, she asked if I wanted any pickles with dinner. Told her sure and told her that I know you’re going to have a pickle aren’t you? She quickly said she’s not going to answer because my mind will make something up. Told her that it looks like your minds thinking about dirty about pickles already. Added that I know you like getting a pickle and like the idea of having more than one. No reply, no comment. But, she passed by me a few minutes later and made a point of caressing my side as she walked by.
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Well, a few notable moments in the last bit. Definitely the roller coaster of the vixen hotwife journey.
After my last post, my wife did in fact open a bit. We had a few hours of just us in the house so i through out that if went to the bedroom, I’d have no choice but to join her via a text. She replied about the amount of work I said I had but moments later, she was heading to the bedroom and asked if I was joining her or not. As she was blowing me, I told her how hot it was to watch her take my cock in her mouth. She made the comment about not need the “porn talk” (her label for the Hotwife talk). Message received.
Once again, super wet and ready as I slid in and threw out to her So, what if I see you as my personal porn star and get turned on by you and what you do. Little chuckle followed by a moan as I made sure it hit her spot. I respected the no porn talk but as IU was taking longer, I asked if it would be cool if I talked a bit. She comment not now and I realized that she was in her own fantasy at this point. She got very wet and the moment caught me off guard and I didn’t last much longer. On a side note, this is one of the things I explained to her that I would want to do differently - not be schedule focus with sex and if the chance presents, lets take it.
This weekend she was distant at times during the day and wanted to cuddle at night. Nothing sexual. Plus, the innuendos have continued, albeit not as often since Thursday.
Today, I had to grab her phone and noticed her new audio book. It was a collection of short erotic stories. Checked it out afterwards and this line caught be “ From thrilling encounters with mysterious strangers to forbidden affairs that defy all societal norms, these stories offer an escape from reality into a world where anything is possible.”. She is clearly exploring the hotwife fantasy and I am not seeing things through the fantasy lens like I was worried. This is the first tangible proof that she is checking things out.
Just when I was giving up hope.
After my last post, my wife did in fact open a bit. We had a few hours of just us in the house so i through out that if went to the bedroom, I’d have no choice but to join her via a text. She replied about the amount of work I said I had but moments later, she was heading to the bedroom and asked if I was joining her or not. As she was blowing me, I told her how hot it was to watch her take my cock in her mouth. She made the comment about not need the “porn talk” (her label for the Hotwife talk). Message received.
Once again, super wet and ready as I slid in and threw out to her So, what if I see you as my personal porn star and get turned on by you and what you do. Little chuckle followed by a moan as I made sure it hit her spot. I respected the no porn talk but as IU was taking longer, I asked if it would be cool if I talked a bit. She comment not now and I realized that she was in her own fantasy at this point. She got very wet and the moment caught me off guard and I didn’t last much longer. On a side note, this is one of the things I explained to her that I would want to do differently - not be schedule focus with sex and if the chance presents, lets take it.
This weekend she was distant at times during the day and wanted to cuddle at night. Nothing sexual. Plus, the innuendos have continued, albeit not as often since Thursday.
Today, I had to grab her phone and noticed her new audio book. It was a collection of short erotic stories. Checked it out afterwards and this line caught be “ From thrilling encounters with mysterious strangers to forbidden affairs that defy all societal norms, these stories offer an escape from reality into a world where anything is possible.”. She is clearly exploring the hotwife fantasy and I am not seeing things through the fantasy lens like I was worried. This is the first tangible proof that she is checking things out.
Just when I was giving up hope.