The Term "Hotwife."
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The Term "Hotwife."
Hello Everyone,
How long has the term "Hotwife" or "Hotwifing" been around? It seems to be fairly new compared to things like "Swinging" or "Orgies" or even "Threesomes." The cuckold relationship has been around for sometime, but the Hotwifing seems to be a modern upto date development.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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How long has the term "Hotwife" or "Hotwifing" been around? It seems to be fairly new compared to things like "Swinging" or "Orgies" or even "Threesomes." The cuckold relationship has been around for sometime, but the Hotwifing seems to be a modern upto date development.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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The term is fairly new in terms of things. When I started, I hadn't heard of Hotwifing, but knew the concept as "wife sharing". But, the whole concept has been around as long as humans.
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In the earlier days of my career (late 1980s) I came to know that there were married women who were turning occasional tricks with their husband's approval in the neighborhood I worked in.
There was no name for it then, none that I knew of.
The first time I encountered the term was on this website when I realized the above scenario was happening to me.
There was no name for it then, none that I knew of.
The first time I encountered the term was on this website when I realized the above scenario was happening to me.
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When my wife first became a hotwife, neither of us had ever heard the word. We had heard of "wife sharing", "key clubs" and "threesomes", but never "hotwife. Now, in 2024, there are even porn sites labeled as videos of hotwives.
The word "cuckhold" is from way back but now appears to have a double meaning. Originally a cuckhold was a negative word meaning a man whose wife was an adulteress and the man had knowledge of it and put up with it. Now it is also used in some circles to mean a husband of a hotwife. The husband knows and approves of it, and gets sexual enjoyment from watching her have sex with another man, or hearing the details about such an encounter. That latter definition would refer to the majority of husbands on this Forum, and very few of us would regard ourselves as "'cuckholds" by the original definition.
The word "cuckhold" is from way back but now appears to have a double meaning. Originally a cuckhold was a negative word meaning a man whose wife was an adulteress and the man had knowledge of it and put up with it. Now it is also used in some circles to mean a husband of a hotwife. The husband knows and approves of it, and gets sexual enjoyment from watching her have sex with another man, or hearing the details about such an encounter. That latter definition would refer to the majority of husbands on this Forum, and very few of us would regard ourselves as "'cuckholds" by the original definition.
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I have been sharing my wife for about 27 years, first while swinging, then through having an open marriage and now through swinging and hotwifing. We began calling her a hotwife about 12 years ago. For us though being a hotwife is more than me giving her permission to fuck other men and even have boyfriends. To us it is a lifestyle. Ann is always well-presented. She never leaves the house without some make-up on or her hair done. She has fortnightly mani/pedis. During summer she tans daily and always has a beautiful bronze tan with no tanlines. In winter she gets fortnightly spraytans, again with no tanlines. Ann always wears jewellery. Always her engagement/wedding/eternity rings, thumb and toe rings, belly button piercing (and likes to show that off), necklace, bangle, hoop earrings. An anklet that is for everyday wear eg. Shopping, work, around family, and then a play anklet if she is at a swingers party etc. She has had her nipples pierced, a VCH piercing and a labia piercing and she loves to show these off when we are at a nude beach or a nude pool party. Ann only wears thongs and g-strings with the matching bra. It is always expensive lingerie even for work. She only wears a suspender belt or stayups, never pantyhose. Her perfume is alway expensive. Her shoes are either 3 inch stilletoes or wedges in the summer and knee high stilleto boots in winter. Even at the gym she looks a million dollars. She likes to get weekly massages. It costs me a lot of money to support her lifestyle. But this is who she has grown into. A beautiful, sexy, confident woman who is aware of her sexuality and likes to use it to get maximum pleasure in life. For her to be able to do all this it means we have a cleaner weekly and I also do most of the chores. I am more than happy to do this plus be her personal PA who organises her dates, clothing, appointments, restaurant bookings, hotel rooms, transport, even keeping her purse supplied with condoms so that she can just enjoy being a hotwife. I love her.
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My wife absolutely hates the term 'hotwife.' She suggested 'exciting wife,' which I also think is a more fun and descriptive term. Maybe it will catch on...lol?
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In our experience, than 30 years ago it was called an open relationship. If us and another couple played it was called love sharing or swinging. Then the term wife sharing was used.
Although we aren’t sure when the term hotwife began, we think it began maybe 20 years or so ago….but this we know…the Hotwife term, and popularity of Hotwifing has become significantly more popular…in fact maybe one of the biggest trends in the lifestyle community.
One other thing…We think that this site was probably responsible for really launching and “promoting” the term Hotwife and opening up discussions about Hotwives…. So for that..we owe those involved with the development of this website a BIG THANK YOU!
Although we aren’t sure when the term hotwife began, we think it began maybe 20 years or so ago….but this we know…the Hotwife term, and popularity of Hotwifing has become significantly more popular…in fact maybe one of the biggest trends in the lifestyle community.
One other thing…We think that this site was probably responsible for really launching and “promoting” the term Hotwife and opening up discussions about Hotwives…. So for that..we owe those involved with the development of this website a BIG THANK YOU!
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I agree that this Forum certainly helped promote the term "hotwife", but I have to disagree this Forum launched the term "hotwife". There were two Bianca forums from which this Forum evolved, both of which promoted the hotwifing.
I agree that this Forum certainly helped promote the term "hotwife", but I have to disagree this Forum launched the term "hotwife". There were two Bianca forums from which this Forum evolved, both of which promoted the hotwifing.
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Actually, I believe the original meaning of cuckold was a man whose wife was unfaithful - whether he was aware of it or not. So much the worse if he knew about it and tolerated it. It obviously has a much different meaning in the modern world of kink and CNM - and it is important to note that not all husbands of hotwives are cucks in this modern context.BT2 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 3:51 pmWhen my wife first became a hotwife, neither of us had ever heard the word. We had heard of "wife sharing", "key clubs" and "threesomes", but never "hotwife. Now, in 2024, there are even porn sites labeled as videos of hotwives.
The word "cuckhold" is from way back but now appears to have a double meaning. Originally a cuckhold was a negative word meaning a man whose wife was an adulteress and the man had knowledge of it and put up with it. Now it is also used in some circles to mean a husband of a hotwife. The husband knows and approves of it, and gets sexual enjoyment from watching her have sex with another man, or hearing the details about such an encounter. That latter definition would refer to the majority of husbands on this Forum, and very few of us would regard ourselves as "'cuckholds" by the original definition.
I wrote this for a similar thread on the Stag-Vixen forum sometime back:
My take - a hotwife is a wife who has sex with other men with her husband's knowledge and consent - pretty much a standard definition - the knowledge and consent can be specific to each man/session - or a blanket knowledge and consent, depending on the couple's agreement.
The main difference seems to be the role of the husband.
A cuck is into "sexualized humiliation" based largely on his wife fucking other men - and various activities that surround that.
A "hotwife husband" typically isn't into humiliation, denial, etc. He just finds it hot that his wife fucks other men. He may or may not be present to watch, depending upon the individual couple's agreement. Typically, he does not fuck other women.
A stag also finds it hot for his wife to fuck other men, but he typically fucks other women as well. The wife of a stag is often called a vixen instead of a hotwife.
In fairness, the delineation is not always clear cut - and there is certainly a spectrum with lots of gray area - although I do think that a stag/vixen dynamic is distinct from cuckoldry.
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From the online Slang Dictionary:
The term first started showing up online in the mid-1990s, mostly among message boards for swingers and exhibitionists. The term spread in late 1997 in personal ads involving husbands wanting to show off their hot wives before further taking hold online.
The term first started showing up online in the mid-1990s, mostly among message boards for swingers and exhibitionists. The term spread in late 1997 in personal ads involving husbands wanting to show off their hot wives before further taking hold online.
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It's what you use when you want to communicate. So that other people know what you are trying to say. Kinda like a "secret" code. I refer to my wife as a party girl. Some people get it. Most people would know what it means if I would say she is a hotwife.
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Your comments are respected and are probably correct.
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Wow, there are others that remember Bianca’s bedroom. It’s from Bianca that this site evolved. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I think Indigo was involved with beginning of this site. I started reading Bianca’s a few years before OHW.
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Hello All,
This particular forum had its beginnings elsewhere, as others have said. This forum has been in continuous operation as /ourhotwives. org since about 1994. (If Inigo is lurking, maybe he will chime in) The term had to have been coined somewhat previously, but I cannot say I ever saw it anywhere else before this forum.
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This particular forum had its beginnings elsewhere, as others have said. This forum has been in continuous operation as /ourhotwives. org since about 1994. (If Inigo is lurking, maybe he will chime in) The term had to have been coined somewhat previously, but I cannot say I ever saw it anywhere else before this forum.
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Chiming in....
As Gulfcpl stated, this site evolved from Bianca's (I'll take Gulfcpl's word for that; I honestly don't remember the name of the predecessor). There was a short spell wherein connectivity on that site was questionable and people were asking in essence, "What will we do if this site goes down permanently?" I was never one to just idly chat about such things so I created this site as a life boat of sorts. I never had any intention of undercutting Bianca's. This was simply meant as an "In case of emergency, go to ourhotwives.org until we come up with a better plan" thing.
The connectivity crises passed and I would have shut this site down (it had like 5 registered users at the time), but the admin of Bianca's found out about this site, figured I was trying to steal their userbase, and banned me from their site. Ummm... OK. With 5 whole users, it wasn't even busy enough to classify as an online ghost town, but I left it up as a bit of an online middle finger to Bianca's.
Thus, this site sat unused for something like 6 months or a year.
Then one day I logged in and overnight I'd accumulated like 1200 users. WTF??? Yeah, something bad had happened at Bianca's and the "In case of emergency" protocol was activated by someone over there. The rest is history.
As for the background of the term "hotwife".... To my knowledge, prior to this site it was always two words. Hot wife. Thing is, "hot wife" could simply mean a married woman that was very attractive. I've always liked the way the German language allows for the concatenation of multiple words to mean something new, so I used "hotwife" as a single word when I created this site and in any conversation within it. It was just a nerdy little thing I started doing to differentiate "attractive married woman" from "married woman who plays with her husband's consent."
I don't *know* that I coined it. It would seem presumptuous to state as much. What I know is that I "invented" it for my own amusement and started to see others use it as well. Was it independent invention? I mean, I'm not the only English speaker who's shoved words together like Germans do. It seems crazy to think that *someone* else didn't think of it first but.... Well, tell whatever version of the story you like.
As Gulfcpl stated, this site evolved from Bianca's (I'll take Gulfcpl's word for that; I honestly don't remember the name of the predecessor). There was a short spell wherein connectivity on that site was questionable and people were asking in essence, "What will we do if this site goes down permanently?" I was never one to just idly chat about such things so I created this site as a life boat of sorts. I never had any intention of undercutting Bianca's. This was simply meant as an "In case of emergency, go to ourhotwives.org until we come up with a better plan" thing.
The connectivity crises passed and I would have shut this site down (it had like 5 registered users at the time), but the admin of Bianca's found out about this site, figured I was trying to steal their userbase, and banned me from their site. Ummm... OK. With 5 whole users, it wasn't even busy enough to classify as an online ghost town, but I left it up as a bit of an online middle finger to Bianca's.
Thus, this site sat unused for something like 6 months or a year.
Then one day I logged in and overnight I'd accumulated like 1200 users. WTF??? Yeah, something bad had happened at Bianca's and the "In case of emergency" protocol was activated by someone over there. The rest is history.
As for the background of the term "hotwife".... To my knowledge, prior to this site it was always two words. Hot wife. Thing is, "hot wife" could simply mean a married woman that was very attractive. I've always liked the way the German language allows for the concatenation of multiple words to mean something new, so I used "hotwife" as a single word when I created this site and in any conversation within it. It was just a nerdy little thing I started doing to differentiate "attractive married woman" from "married woman who plays with her husband's consent."
I don't *know* that I coined it. It would seem presumptuous to state as much. What I know is that I "invented" it for my own amusement and started to see others use it as well. Was it independent invention? I mean, I'm not the only English speaker who's shoved words together like Germans do. It seems crazy to think that *someone* else didn't think of it first but.... Well, tell whatever version of the story you like.
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Lovely to hear from you, Inigo. I hope you and your beautiful wife, Agnes, are well and happy.
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I recall the dust up and the name calling from Bianca towards Indigo when the Bianca sites were coming to an end and this Forum was just starting. I had always considered this site as the successor to Bianca, but maybe it was not that friendly.
I also note that a number of us on this Forum have our joined date as sometime in 2007. Not so. The Bianca sites folded prior to 2007 but
I don't remember what year. Many of us switched over to this Forum when Bianca folded, but this site had a glitch in 2007 and many of us who were on this site prior to 2007 had to reregister in 2007.
Many of us were married to hotwives even then, and most of us have never regretted it.
I also note that a number of us on this Forum have our joined date as sometime in 2007. Not so. The Bianca sites folded prior to 2007 but
I don't remember what year. Many of us switched over to this Forum when Bianca folded, but this site had a glitch in 2007 and many of us who were on this site prior to 2007 had to reregister in 2007.
Many of us were married to hotwives even then, and most of us have never regretted it.
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Aww Bianca's........Smut Shack, wasn't that the full name? or I'm I confusing that with the Smut Gremlin website. A long time ago!BT2 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:20 amI recall the dust up and the name calling from Bianca towards Indigo when the Bianca sites were coming to an end and this Forum was just starting. I had always considered this site as the successor to Bianca, but maybe it was not that friendly.
I also note that a number of us on this Forum have our joined date as sometime in 2007. Not so. The Bianca sites folded prior to 2007 but
I don't remember what year. Many of us switched over to this Forum when Bianca folded, but this site had a glitch in 2007 and many of us who were on this site prior to 2007 had to reregister in 2007.
Many of us were married to hotwives even then, and most of us have never regretted it.
My recollection was after Bianca's shut down( Google search say's 2001) at some point there was an Adult Communities website named Our HotWives Forum which ran until early 2006, based on printed post's I have from Jerry n Diane dated Dec 26, 2005. I have printed posts with past and current members listed in the strings; Jack and Carol, Toolman, Inigo, SeaGirtCuck.
Then Inigo's Your Hotwives Forum with Agatha's pennant in the top left hand corner. I have printed posts from March 2006 and under the members names there is the join date most of the regulars that I recognize have Jan 22,2006. The May /June 2007 name change to Our Hotwives, date was when the site changed hosting or something and we needed to re-register, still Inigo as benevolent ruler.
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I believe you’re right about Smut Shack being part of Bianca’s name. I was reading that in about 1994. I was using Netscape browser. That’s how old I am! Ha.dnic wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 4:31 pmAww Bianca's........Smut Shack, wasn't that the full name? or I'm I confusing that with the Smut Gremlin website. A long time ago!BT2 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:20 amI recall the dust up and the name calling from Bianca towards Indigo when the Bianca sites were coming to an end and this Forum was just starting. I had always considered this site as the successor to Bianca, but maybe it was not that friendly.
I also note that a number of us on this Forum have our joined date as sometime in 2007. Not so. The Bianca sites folded prior to 2007 but
I don't remember what year. Many of us switched over to this Forum when Bianca folded, but this site had a glitch in 2007 and many of us who were on this site prior to 2007 had to reregister in 2007.
Many of us were married to hotwives even then, and most of us have never regretted it.
My recollection was after Bianca's shut down( Google search say's 2001) at some point there was an Adult Communities website named Our HotWives Forum which ran until early 2006, based on printed post's I have from Jerry n Diane dated Dec 26, 2005. I have printed posts with past and current members listed in the strings; Jack and Carol, Toolman, Inigo, SeaGirtCuck.
Then Inigo's Your Hotwives Forum with Agatha's pennant in the top left hand corner. I have printed posts from March 2006 and under the members names there is the join date most of the regulars that I recognize have Jan 22,2006. The May /June 2007 name change to Our Hotwives, date was when the site changed hosting or something and we needed to re-register, still Inigo as benevolent ruler.
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My experience?
When I was in high school I had a proto-hotwife relationship. We said we were "seeing other people". That was the late 80's. It was mostly her fucking around or me sharing her, with not a lot of me seeing other people.
In college I had a girl friend who we ended up calling ourselves swingers. As it was too early for internet sites, most of what we did was 3-somes and an occasional hook up with a couple she knew from before college. It was relatively easy to find a third at some far away bar, and we didn't have to scour the swinger papers. So I thought it was really more a matter of form over function.
After we parted ways, I dated around and graduated college. I ended up dating a woman that would ultimately become a pure hotwife relationship. Before that I had always considered myself a "Swinger".
We were long distance for a bit, and with the internet booming, I of course took to beating my meat like it owed me money when she wasn't around. I found plenty of forums, from the old standby, asstr to redclouds and literotica. I went back and looked thinking maybe it was "Bobbi Sue" that I first saw the term hotwife, but it wasn't in any quick searches I did. Literotica calls their hotwife section "Loving Wives" still.
I also remember my curiosity in it being more a voyeur or exhibitionist type thing (see my name). I originally thought I was a voyeur who was a swinger. Somewhere along the way dating the girl post college is when I came across the term "Hotwife".
Mostly I like women who like to fuck and be shared.
That's my evolution anyway.
When I was in high school I had a proto-hotwife relationship. We said we were "seeing other people". That was the late 80's. It was mostly her fucking around or me sharing her, with not a lot of me seeing other people.
In college I had a girl friend who we ended up calling ourselves swingers. As it was too early for internet sites, most of what we did was 3-somes and an occasional hook up with a couple she knew from before college. It was relatively easy to find a third at some far away bar, and we didn't have to scour the swinger papers. So I thought it was really more a matter of form over function.
After we parted ways, I dated around and graduated college. I ended up dating a woman that would ultimately become a pure hotwife relationship. Before that I had always considered myself a "Swinger".
We were long distance for a bit, and with the internet booming, I of course took to beating my meat like it owed me money when she wasn't around. I found plenty of forums, from the old standby, asstr to redclouds and literotica. I went back and looked thinking maybe it was "Bobbi Sue" that I first saw the term hotwife, but it wasn't in any quick searches I did. Literotica calls their hotwife section "Loving Wives" still.
I also remember my curiosity in it being more a voyeur or exhibitionist type thing (see my name). I originally thought I was a voyeur who was a swinger. Somewhere along the way dating the girl post college is when I came across the term "Hotwife".
Mostly I like women who like to fuck and be shared.
That's my evolution anyway.