Not sure if I'm in the right place..

[diet_dew_86]

That's encouraging. You should probably continue exploring other options in case life gets in the way. People get sick or have work/family commitments come up and you won't have a ton of time to wait. Did she pick him out or did you suggest him?

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

That's encouraging. You should probably continue exploring other options in case life gets in the way. People get sick or have work/family commitments come up and you won't have a ton of time to wait. Did she pick him out or did you suggest him?

He passed my filter process. This is basically just proving to me you aren't a thirsty weirdo for a while, then I showed L the profile and she gave the thumbs up. Then I invited them into a group chat so they could get to know each other.

[Small]

I just read the full thread - very interesting developing story so far. I noticed there was a 6 months gap between March and September this year. Did you go back to the swinger site during this time?

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

I just read the full thread - very interesting developing story so far. I noticed there was a 6 months gap between March and September this year. Did you go back to the swinger site during this time?

Hi, thanks for taking the time to read our story

No, we haven't been back to the swinger club since the last time I posted about it. Our lives have been pretty hectic and there hasn't been much time or opportunity to develop L's sexual adventure. I think the next time we have an opportunity will be in the new year unfortunately.

Although, who knows

L still talks about it a few times a week. It's on her mind for sure.
I sometimes wonder if some dark stranger will appear from nowhere and sweep her off her feet Things happen when you least expect them to, after all.

[Long Lurker 34]

I just read the full thread - very interesting developing story so far. I noticed there was a 6 months gap between March and September this year. Did you go back to the swinger site during this time?

Hi, thanks for taking the time to read our story

No, we haven't been back to the swinger club since the last time I posted about it. Our lives have been pretty hectic and there hasn't been much time or opportunity to develop L's sexual adventure. I think the next time we have an opportunity will be in the new year unfortunately.

Although, who knows

L still talks about it a few times a week. It's on her mind for sure.
I sometimes wonder if some dark stranger will appear from nowhere and sweep her off her feet Things happen when you least expect them to, after all.

MLO
- What about trying FOR the New Year.

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

MLO
- What about trying FOR the New Year.

Well, the problem that we have where we currently live, is that it's a very small country and city. Think 2 degrees of separation small. So there isn't really a large enough degree of separation for L to feel entirely comfortable playing in our home city.

Discretion is something that she is hyper-focused on, coupled with not really being impressed with the general quality of local men. It's made it hard for her to get started here.

[Long Lurker 34]

MLO
- What about trying FOR the New Year.

Well, the problem that we have where we currently live, is that it's a very small country and city. Think 2 degrees of separation small. So there isn't really a large enough degree of separation for L to feel entirely comfortable playing in our home city.

Discretion is something that she is hyper-focused on, coupled with not really being impressed with the general quality of local men. It's made it hard for her to get started here.

MLO
- What about travelling? Not unheard of for New Year's.

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

MLO
- What about trying FOR the New Year.

Well, the problem that we have where we currently live, is that it's a very small country and city. Think 2 degrees of separation small. So there isn't really a large enough degree of separation for L to feel entirely comfortable playing in our home city.

Discretion is something that she is hyper-focused on, coupled with not really being impressed with the general quality of local men. It's made it hard for her to get started here.

MLO
- What about travelling? Not unheard of for New Year's.

We will be in January. So we're happy with that. Not desperate to waste a load of money on the off chance L can get laid

[54321]

Thank you for a very thoughtful thread. I'm enjoying it immensely.

What happened to her lifestyle friend Z (?)
Which city will you be going to in the New Year?

54321

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

Thank you for a very thoughtful thread. I'm enjoying it immensely.

What happened to her lifestyle friend Z (?)
Which city will you be going to in the New Year?

54321

Z had a baby, she's currently on maternity leave I believe.

We're going over to Melbourne to watch the Aussie Open for a week.

L was giving me a blowjob the other night, she'd just gotten off using my tongue and a vibrator, she looked me directly in the eyes and said "I wish I had a row of dicks in front of me. I want to feel powerful sucking and fucking them all and getting them all off." I wasn't expecting that from her at all, we hadn't even discussed extracurricular activities for a while

[54321]

Thank you for responding. I was wondering what kind of Lifestyle adventures Z and her husband were into and how that might affect your wife's view.

54321

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

Thank you for responding. I was wondering what kind of Lifestyle adventures Z and her husband were into and how that might affect your wife's view.

54321

My understanding is that they dont really get up to much, even before the baby. Of course you don't know what goes on behind closed doors, but if they are kinky I'm sure not finding out about it.

[Happyjohnson]

I have just finished reading your story from the start and wish you a lot of luck when you cross the ditch for the tennis!

I hope the bloke you have been chatting to won't screw things up for you and L, that once you get to Melbourne, he gets her settled and fucks the ass off her, to her satisfaction and yours.

You have both come a long way on your journey from when you first started - well done with the patience you have shown in trying to get L out of her shell.

The change in lifestyle and culture to the western world with the more relaxed attitude towards sex, from the Vietnamese culture, would have been a shock for L, though dependent on how long she has been away from Viet Nam.

Has L not shown any interest in Vietnamese men, both locally or when she returned to Viet Nam, might have been an ideal opportunity for her when she was back there, if she had time away from family - being female obviously makes it a lot more difficult!

All the very best for your future in this L/S and please keep us all posted on your progress.
Happy.

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

I have just finished reading your story from the start and wish you a lot of luck when you cross the ditch for the tennis!

I hope the bloke you have been chatting to won't screw things up for you and L, that once you get to Melbourne, he gets her settled and fucks the ass off her, to her satisfaction and yours.

You have both come a long way on your journey from when you first started - well done with the patience you have shown in trying to get L out of her shell.

The change in lifestyle and culture to the western world with the more relaxed attitude towards sex, from the Vietnamese culture, would have been a shock for L, though dependent on how long she has been away from Viet Nam.

Has L not shown any interest in Vietnamese men, both locally or when she returned to Viet Nam, might have been an ideal opportunity for her when she was back there, if she had time away from family - being female obviously makes it a lot more difficult!

All the very best for your future in this L/S and please keep us all posted on your progress.
Happy.

Thanks for the kind words and taking the time to read our story.

L doesn't really have an interest in Asian guys anymore, she claims to have been 'white washed' now. She just doesn't find them masculine enough.

She's away on a business trip atm, she told me to shave her pussy the night before she left so it's fresh for her boyfriend. Then this morning sent me a invitation photo from her bed, then followed it up with "Whoops wrong person, sorry." So she is definitely in a place where she is having fun and enjoying herself now.

It's hot to see her having fun with the idea.

We've also lined up another prospect for the trip and we're going to try at least one swinging club while we are there.

We're really looking forward to it

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

First guy is out. L just wasn't feeling any connection or interest in him.

Next up is a french guy with a rather large penis. Hopefully, being French, he will be a little bit smoother in his communication with L.

[iluvmyhw]

hopefully lisa gets to have fun

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

Well L and her new French friend seem to be getting along very well. In fact I would say L is on her way to being a little smitten.

They are bonding over tennis. He apparently owns some restaurants and gets sponsored tickets to the tennis, so he has offered to host her. Which lead to a conversation between L and I. She asked me "How would you feel if I spent the day with him? Just us and then met you back at the airBnB in the evening?"

I didn't really know what to say to that. It certainly wasn't how I had ever imagined our interactions and holiday in general going. I assumed it would be something like
- us spending the days together
- then us spending some of the evenings with a potential lover or two, probably even going to a local LS club.

We had already booked our tickets for the tennis. So either one of the tickets would go to waste (wasting money is not an L thing) and I'd spend the day alone, or one of the days we'd planned to do other things around Melbourne would now be dedicated to them and I'd be alone to entertain myself for the day.

Either way, not really how I'd imagined things playing out. All of this went through my mind for a little while. Eventually I decided that this lifestyle choice we're making is for L's benefit and so if things weren't going to go exactly the way "I" had imagined them, was that really important?

So I told L, that I would be fine entertaining myself for a day if they decided that they wanted some alone time to have a proper date. If they we're planning on spending a whole day together, I wouldn't want to be a third wheel and L will feel a lot more relaxed if she doesn't feel I'm there watching her

Seems like things are progressing between them as L spent a couple of hours chatting with him last night, more than the whole time she'd spent engaging with any other man at all so far.

[coastalkid]

I too just finished reading this thread from start to the finish (or rather up to date). L has made tremendous changes in her attitudes and thinking along the way. It's clear that the "seed" has not only been planted, it is thriving. You've done a remarkable job of being sensitive to her culture and her curiosity. It seems to me that you have provided a sense of security that has made your experience so far less threatening to the both of you. Even when L suggested that she and her potential lover might need time alone you didn't overreact. You stated that it wasn't how YOU envisioned it but saw it as reasonable to provide the best experience for L.

If things do happen with the "Frenchman" I would imagine there are a multitude of potential questions and outcomes that will come from this first REAL experience. I'm sure you have contemplated them long before now.

I know I'm projecting here so I apologize but, I'd wonder what would happen if this guy wasn't the "right guy" and she had a bad experience and got turned off to the whole idea after one time? Whatever hopes you had to enjoy a liberated sex life could be crushed just like that! Then there's the total opposite, what if she has a great experience and goes overboard with it, full blown NRE, uncharacteristic behavior and unexpected changes in YOUR lifestyle?

A lot rides on this guy (pun intended)! A lot will depend on your wife too.

If it is a good experience, do you think when you return to your small country that your wife will want to find a lover there?

[MonaLisaOverdrive]

I too just finished reading this thread from start to the finish (or rather up to date). L has made tremendous changes in her attitudes and thinking along the way. It's clear that the "seed" has not only been planted, it is thriving. You've done a remarkable job of being sensitive to her culture and her curiosity. It seems to me that you have provided a sense of security that has made your experience so far less threatening to the both of you. Even when L suggested that she and her potential lover might need time alone you didn't overreact. You stated that it wasn't how YOU envisioned it but saw it as reasonable to provide the best experience for L.

Hi Coastal, thank you for taking the time to read our thread and for asking some interesting questions. I have a lot of thoughts about them and some updates, which I will use to give some context to my answers. I appreciate the kind words. All I can say is that I am trying to keep the focus on L and take my ego out of it. I really would love for her to break out of her "sexual shell", for lack of a better term, and get all the enjoyment she can out of life. In turn I hope that it dramatically improves our own sex life, as she can bring that validation and confidence back into our bedroom. But I'm trying very hard to keep her in my focus.

If things do happen with the "Frenchman" I would imagine there are a multitude of potential questions and outcomes that will come from this first REAL experience. I'm sure you have contemplated them long before now.

Barring a BIG mistake by old Pierre (as I will now be referring to him), I think things are more or less confirmed. L is smitten and he is going all out to seduce her. He made some claims which initially raised an immediate red flag with L, she has been watching a lot of "catfishing" and "relationship scam" documentaries over the last couple of years. Little did he know he was contending with a girl that missed her calling in the CIA. Within 12 hours she had found him, his real name and all his socials. Turns out the claims he was making were slightly overstated, which I put down to typical male peacocking and she noticed his wedding ring.

I wondered how she would react to this information. It actually comforted her and calmed her worries. He appears to be a normal guy and the wedding ring didn't faze her in the slightest. She is now much more confident he is real and is allowing herself to be drawn in to his seduction. She even sent him some pictures. This has never happened with another guy. The original target nearly begged for them and he was left wanting.

I know I'm projecting here so I apologize but, I'd wonder what would happen if this guy wasn't the "right guy" and she had a bad experience and got turned off to the whole idea after one time? Whatever hopes you had to enjoy a liberated sex life could be crushed just like that!

This is possible and there are many accounts on here of bad dates. We were discussing the lifestyle last night, specifically about her having the freedom to choose lovers freely. The need for her to have validation from men outside of our marriage, that it "hits different" when other men want her and knowing she has my approval to act on it. She turned to me and said "I really want that." So, I do not think a bad date will end the whole lifestyle. I think she really sees the benefit of it to her and she wants it for herself.

Then there's the total opposite, what if she has a great experience and goes overboard with it, full blown NRE, uncharacteristic behavior and unexpected changes in YOUR lifestyle?

Many a participant, male and female, on this forum has said "Once your wife decides to fully engage in this lifestyle for herself, then be prepared to be taken on a wild ride." I am trying my best to take that advice to heart. When we talked yesterday she told me that she needs to lead this. I had inadvertently come across as pushy, when I was trying to be supportive. I told her that I heard her and would step back to support but let her lead. She knows what she needs for this to be a success. She needs an emotional investment and connection with the guy, which is why his claims had set off a red flag with her and she needed to find out who she was potentially letting herself get invested in. I fully anticipate the NRE energy and will try to keep myself from being reactive. The good thing about this encounter is that once we finish our holiday it will most likely (famous last words) peter out. Hopefully leaving us with great memories and experiences to look back on, evaluate and help us plan our way forward.

We also discussed that our relationship would always be the priority and that it had to work for both of us. There will be future conversations around this, about my needs and feelings. But I told her that I will support her leading the process. After all, we engaged on this journey to grow her self confidence in her sexuality. That can't happen if I am playing armchair quarterback. (I believe I have used that Americanism correctly)

Where will it lead? I don't know, neither does she. That's the beauty of it in a way. But I'm confident that our relationship is strong and our communication will help us weather any unexpected eventualities. Our goals remain in sync, during the holiday I will begin creampieing her as we begin to start trying for a baby.

Maybe it's just me but there is something poetic about that. Her beginning flings with lovers while we also begin the next stage of our family life together.

A lot rides on this guy (pun intended)! A lot will depend on your wife too.

If it is a good experience, do you think when you return to your small country that your wife will want to find a lover there?

Pierre must stand on his own, I can't help him there. As for L, well I suppose in many ways if she is taking the lead then so must she. But I will ultimately support her decision in whatever she decides. This journey is about her sexuality, not mine. OK, it's about mine a little bit too, I won't pretend I don't stand to gain from a sexually liberated wife I think she won't let one set back stop her though.

As for finding a lover in our own hometown. I don't know. I suspect not. It's a very small place and she is extremely cautious. However, she may decide it's worth the risk.

I am open to being surprised.

[isinlarsa]

It looks like I came across your thread when things are starting to get interesting. I look forward to following L's progress; although reading about her publicly masturbating at the swing club was pretty hot. I know of many hotwives who have had sex with other men, who would never let a group of people watch her masturbate to orgasm.