Jane' adventure

[MrPepeLePew]

Whenever I see a kid ride down the street without his hands on the handlebars or otherwise doing something stupid, I'm genuinely hoping he puts his hands back on his handlebars and continues along his merry way, realizing how stupid of an idea that was and never does it again. My imagination sees the kid fall off his bike and hurt himself, feeling both sorry that the kid hurt himself but relieved that his lesson wasn't more seriously felt.

The business world isn't even remotely fair and stuff like this happens all the time. Even if you have zero respect for the person you're working with, alongside, or under, you -never- pull stuff like that, even if you think (for whatever reason) that it's accepted. Having removed the hotwife variable from this equation, this trainee could've received much worse and hopefully he's learning a lesson he'll remember.

Neither one of you should feel guilty about this, imo. Coddling stupidity only benefits your own conscience. Just my .02.

[MrBrunetteBeth]

It's supposed to be about work product in the business world, but too often it's about people liking you. This guy did not do what he should have to be liked by the guy that mattered. It's the way of the world. Lesson learned? Who knows ...

MrBB

[susanshusband]

it's been pretty quiet for hotwifing lately. had a date yesterday though. hoped for stud, got mr. dud. just...yuck. tried to expand who i will see. he was 41, not in great shape, but okay, and just not a good lover.

After reading through your posts I find it amusing that you feel one week of respite is "quiet" for you now. Once a week is not too bad for a wife and mother to get away.

[rypmar7]

so david gave the guy a bad report at work, and he just found out. i'm kind of disgusted david did it actually.

So to get even, the guy will probably start calling you again.

[jane]

it's been pretty quiet for hotwifing lately. had a date yesterday though. hoped for stud, got mr. dud. just...yuck. tried to expand who i will see. he was 41, not in great shape, but okay, and just not a good lover.

After reading through your posts I find it amusing that you feel one week of respite is "quiet" for you now. Once a week is not too bad for a wife and mother to get away.

haha, you are probably right. but as busy as i can get with my kids, a date i had 5 days ago can seem forever.

[susanshusband]

any dates comming up this weekend Jane? It has been a loooong time since Mr. Yuck Dud.

[jane]

no, nothing.

[Mr JnJ Doe]

so david gave the guy a bad report at work, and he just found out. i'm kind of disgusted david did it actually.

Hi Jane,
Maybe you should call the guy and take him out to lunch from David's bad report.

[Janes Husband]

The guy got released today. I'm not sure i did the right thing. On the other hand Jane is sure i did the wrong thing.

[Wifesharing]

I think i agree with Jane here you did the wrong thing. You should have gave hima evaluation that matched his work not your personal feelings.


So now that he is no longer working there think maybe he will maek a run at her ?

[hornedhubby]

Anyone foolish and arrogant enough to persist, even after warnings, in chasing the wife of the guy training him for a new job deserves a negative report, IMHO.

JH probably did his employer a good service here, but that's beside the point. In that situation, he had to assert himself. Maybe it was a guy thing to do, rather than the right thing to do, but I wouldn't be losing sleep.

I hope you let your hubby get up off the mat, Jane. He loves you, and this was a difficult matter of trust.

[susanshusband]

The guy got released today. I'm not sure i did the right thing. On the other hand Jane is sure i did the wrong thing.

JH, what did you write him up for?

[Aynsley]

My $0.02 ...

His continued pursuit, made me think he was
a) stupid, or
b) had a HIGH connection within the company that gave him a teflon shield
(I don't buy that there is a 'c' )

Since we now know he was 'a)', JH did his company a favor.

[jrandmustang]

I agree with those who have posted that the trainee exercised poor judgment and probably deserved to be dismissed for that alone. It would be hard to believe that his pursuit of Jane was a unique, out-of-character action for him ... so he's probably a sexual harrassment/hostile workplace suit waiting to happen.

I hope Jane cuts David some slack on this.

The question I've always had is, was that the nature of David's evaluation? Or did David have to "bear false witness" against the trainee's technical proficiency or other workplace habits? I was concerned that David's evaluation could be challenged or would not match up with others'.

This has been an intense little episode, partly because for those cuckolds among us who identify with David, the idea of some smug young intern slipping it to the wife and getting it away with it and essentially saying, "Whatcha gonna do about it?" is infuriating, excruciating, and oh so titillating. But much better as fantasy fodder than as something to live with. It's best that the young man is no longer with the company ...

[MrandMrsO]

Hi Jane and JH. Thanks for sharing so much of your adventure. Long time lurker but, I feel the need to add my voice to the choir of folks supporting JH in the bad review and subsequent dismissal of the trainee. jrandmustang said just what I feel in that:

This has been an intense little episode, partly because for those cuckolds among us who identify with David, the idea of some smug young intern slipping it to the wife and getting it away with it and essentially saying, "Whatcha gonna do about it?" is infuriating, excruciating, and oh so titillating. But much better as fantasy fodder than as something to live with. It's best that the young man is no longer with the company ...

From the descriptions something seemed "not right" about his pursuit of you. I too would like to hear from JH what was said in the report. Was it all accurate information regarding trainee's professional habits or were there some stretches of the truth?

[54321]

I can't help but feel that there is an underlying issue here. Both Jane and JH have their submissive moments which left them somewhat vulnerable... especially to a manipulative person who can smell it like a shark smells blood.

Both Jane and JH found themselves being manoevred, Jane with the car pick-up business and JH with the coin flipping episode.

The ideal response would have been for Jane to say firmly but politely, "No" as many times as are necessary to stop a persistent manipulator.
Because she didn't, JH felt his hand forced and overreacted?.. maybe a tad.

The whole thing was a bit messy, and no-one acted perfectly. You both did the best you knew how at the time. Time to clean up, carry on and learn from the experience.

"When I Say 'No' I feel Guilty" by Manuel J. Smith PhD is the perfect manual for a situation like this.

Every good wish,

54321

PS. I've mentioned this book twice now. I won't mention it again because:
a) I don't want to sound like a nag.
b) I don't want Allengt to think I'm spamming

[Stormbringer]

JH was correct in his actions as it's his job to weed out the stupid where Jane needs to be reminded that work is work and play is play and it's almost always a bad idea if they ever meet.

[jane]

i think david made a bigger deal out of it than he needed to. maybe it's because i've dealt with guys and can handle them for the most part.
david wrote up in his evaluation that he didn't follow instructions well. at least that's what he told me.

[bsefs]

david wrote up in his evaluation that he didn't follow instructions well. at least that's what he told me.

While it may have been considered a bad report, if that's what he wrote up, it certainly was an accurate report.

[3323b]

I think it would be extremely hot if Jane went out and had sex with this guy anyway. Maybe it could be part of the cuckolding aspect of their relationship.

[susanshusband]

I think it would be extremely hot if Jane went out and had sex with this guy anyway. Maybe it could be part of the cuckolding aspect of their relationship.

Here here! I think it is a waste of time trying to evaluate this and place blame on anyone involved. I am here to enjoy the ride and see where it goes. I trust that we are dealing with mature grownups who are capable of making decisions for themselves.

[Morgan]

You can hurt a man (David) the way he wants to be hurt.
You can also hurt a man profoundly, by doing the exact same thing in a different context.
I asked before at the beginning of this episode at David's work, is this about humiliation?
If so, then so be it.
I would be surprised if David posted here that he wants you to hook up with "The Idiot"
(who in my opinion doesn't deserve you.)
Please move on Jane.

[Morgan]

Hi Jane. My previous post inferred/implied ( I have trouble with those two) that you had somehow indicated you were thinking now of possibly hooking up with The Idiot.
To the best of my knowledge there has been no indication.
My comments were really aimed at the peanut gallery, or circle of fools, which ever pleases you. I count myself proudly among them.
BTW I call him The Idiot for the obvious reason, but also, if he had played his cards right, and David didn't have to confront him; he could have possibly hooked up with you in the future. When it wasn't so close to home, so to speak.

[Hotwife_Mustang]

i think david made a bigger deal out of it than he needed to. maybe it's because i've dealt with guys and can handle them for the most part.

Jane, the issue that all of us are getting to here has nothing to do with whether you can handle the guy.

The issue is how David would handle him in the workplace. The guy showed all the signs of someone who would cause trouble there after fucking his superior's wife.

Having observed a couple of "hostile work environment" lawsuits up close and personal, I can tell you that employers don't take kindly to employees who cause or allow that environment.

David's job might well have been at risk.

and odds are, if he was as undisciplined and manipulative at work as he was in his interactions with you two, JH had legitimate cause to write him up.

Hot or not, trust Jane or not, this guy was risky. He wouldn't have been tolerated in my company, and financial services sector is under very close scrutiny these days, too.

I'm glad the little episode is over. Just my $0.02 worth.

HWM

[bubbajack]

As a Jane's Adventure addict since the first post "So I have not been with many men ..." , all I know is that I don't know very much about how decisions are made in the J/J'sH system. Sometimes I think I can see what's coming and it turns out somewhat in that way.

Other times I am utterly gobsmacked.

God, I love these young people! My heart rate jumps a little whenever I see a new post from one of them because you never know what you are going to get - I am not even going to try to capture in a mere comment the enormous range of possibilities that seem to be perfectly open to exploration by them ...

I will continue to hope and fully expect that there are surprises, delights, thrills and chills yet to come.