Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water
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slenderfish
Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water
Been slammed with work and travel.
SW on Saturday night was on fire (for me!) and apparently feeling confident in her hotwifehood she told me some things about Mr. S that she had heretofore kept to herself (that pesky penchant for secrecy)!
The sex and her imaginations off the chart!
She kinda called herself out to some degree.
You can be the judge. I'll elaborate when there's some time. Its late I have 7 a.m. flight to wake up and catch.
SW on Saturday night was on fire (for me!) and apparently feeling confident in her hotwifehood she told me some things about Mr. S that she had heretofore kept to herself (that pesky penchant for secrecy)!
The sex and her imaginations off the chart!
She kinda called herself out to some degree.
You can be the judge. I'll elaborate when there's some time. Its late I have 7 a.m. flight to wake up and catch.
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Literally on the edge of my seat...
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Me too. SF’s excitement gets me excited. As they say: good wine leads to lose lips (and legs in SW’s case).
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slenderfish
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Okay, might have to do this in installments.
We arrived Thursday, and you will recall that out of the blue on Wednesday, SW had received a text from Mr. S saying "How are you doing beautiful, I miss you" or similar.
She had called me on Wednesday and asked if I'd for some reason gotten into contact with him and put him up to it.
Of course not. (Yes, truly I did not)
Apparently she was surprised at his text because (and I didn't know at the time) she had really decided she was finished with him. I know she had said that in the past, including prior to her solo trip to the area in May for her annual Mother's Day visit. I also recall that I was aware she had contacted both him and Mr. M just before traveling there, despite her saying she was done with both of these guys because of lack of appropriate contact and follow up by them (e.g. they should be chasing her a bit).
I'll also add that upon her return from that trip, she said she had not heard from either of these guys and that it was no big deal, it was a trip for her mother, family, etc.
Finally, I'll remind that it was on the Saturday night that weekend she had called me at about 1:30 a.m. (her time) while I was "hooting it up" on Mr. E's boat. She was crying and sloppy drunk and complained that nobody wanted to go out with her on as Saturday night, her girlfriends all suck, etc. and the one guy who tried to pick up on her at the hotel bar was just too distasteful to even consider carrying on a conversation with, That she ended up getting into some kind of verbal altercation with some chick at the bar, it was just a train wreck.
More on this later, in a separate posting.
She received the text from Mr. S, and when I returned home that Wednesday night, she showed it to me. She then delete it. Or so she said.
It turns out she actually forwarded it to her girlfriend Ms. H.
It turns out she has shared her hotwife conversion story and history with Ms. H. And looked to Ms. H for guidance as to how or whether to reply to Mr. S' text message. And said nothing of it until a sloppy, after-sex late night conversation with me, there this past Monday night. She told me of Ms. H's recommendation. It wasn't much different from mine, but of course my thoughts are met with skepticism but Ms. H has perspective so her thought have gravitas.
More later.
We arrived Thursday, and you will recall that out of the blue on Wednesday, SW had received a text from Mr. S saying "How are you doing beautiful, I miss you" or similar.
She had called me on Wednesday and asked if I'd for some reason gotten into contact with him and put him up to it.
Of course not. (Yes, truly I did not)
Apparently she was surprised at his text because (and I didn't know at the time) she had really decided she was finished with him. I know she had said that in the past, including prior to her solo trip to the area in May for her annual Mother's Day visit. I also recall that I was aware she had contacted both him and Mr. M just before traveling there, despite her saying she was done with both of these guys because of lack of appropriate contact and follow up by them (e.g. they should be chasing her a bit).
I'll also add that upon her return from that trip, she said she had not heard from either of these guys and that it was no big deal, it was a trip for her mother, family, etc.
Finally, I'll remind that it was on the Saturday night that weekend she had called me at about 1:30 a.m. (her time) while I was "hooting it up" on Mr. E's boat. She was crying and sloppy drunk and complained that nobody wanted to go out with her on as Saturday night, her girlfriends all suck, etc. and the one guy who tried to pick up on her at the hotel bar was just too distasteful to even consider carrying on a conversation with, That she ended up getting into some kind of verbal altercation with some chick at the bar, it was just a train wreck.
More on this later, in a separate posting.
She received the text from Mr. S, and when I returned home that Wednesday night, she showed it to me. She then delete it. Or so she said.
It turns out she actually forwarded it to her girlfriend Ms. H.
It turns out she has shared her hotwife conversion story and history with Ms. H. And looked to Ms. H for guidance as to how or whether to reply to Mr. S' text message. And said nothing of it until a sloppy, after-sex late night conversation with me, there this past Monday night. She told me of Ms. H's recommendation. It wasn't much different from mine, but of course my thoughts are met with skepticism but Ms. H has perspective so her thought have gravitas.
More later.
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"[T]he one guy who tried to pick up on her at the hotel bar was just too distasteful to even consider carrying on a conversation with."
I can only imagine what a feat of marksmanship it would take to hit a bullseye in a barside dialogue with her.
I can only imagine what a feat of marksmanship it would take to hit a bullseye in a barside dialogue with her.
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slenderfish
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Actually, as I unfold more of the story you'll see that this was really a feat of lack of marksmanship. She was kinda game for whatever, that night.
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slenderfish
Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water
Let's back up, and indulge a quick update about Saturday night.
We arrived Thursday, got checked into the hotel. She kept requesting one certain room as we were checking in. She winked at me and said the view is stellar and she has prior good experience with that room (hint: she had trysts with Mr. S in that room). But no dice, the hotel was quite booked so they got us a different room with what turned out to be an even better location and view.
I had business on Friday, and we did a business dinner as couples, with my company's lawyers and their spouses. SW was dressed very tastefully in a mint/powder green ensemble with lace pants, full sheaths built in underneath, and a matching green summery sweater that showed off her buxom chest. She was confident, ever the part of the supportive and conversational wife.
After dinner, we stayed for another glass of wine (her) and vodka martini (me) and shut the place down. We found our way back to the hotel and immediately got busy. It had been some days since we had time to be intimate and vacation sex is always nice. It was raunchy and dirty. We referred to her time in this hotel in a room up one floor, fucking Mr. S. She was eager to please and I was even in her ass for a few minutes. Ended up taking me in her mouth and swallowing. Very unusual for her.
After, she volunteered that the reason she had soured on Mr. S is that he completely stood her up the last time they were to get together. And that he was always late, with excuses that he was on a call or similar. Basically, power play moves (whether or not intentional) that demonstrated his belief he was the one getting the nookie, the side piece, and that she would be available whenever he was ready.
I, being the observant one, ere in my post-orgasmic stupor, suddenly realized (but did not overplay it) that they had arranged to get together on one of the previous visits and she never told me about it, because ultimately it didn't happen.
It suddenly made sense to me.
I asked her if that was the night she had so much trouble, that Saturday night in May. When she was crying at 1:30 in the morning that nobody wanted her, that her friends all let her down socially, and that even the schlub at the bar, who hit on her in a prior visit and she laughed in his face, and whom she was going to give a chance that night after plans "with her girlfriend" didn't work out, messed it up by being such a schmuck. So she got in a fight with a younger woman who was being a narcissistic bitch, then went upstairs and had the meltdown.
She tripped over her words and obfuscated. I said nothing. It was late, and I figured I'd have a chance to pull the balance of it out of her at some time in the near future.
We arrived Thursday, got checked into the hotel. She kept requesting one certain room as we were checking in. She winked at me and said the view is stellar and she has prior good experience with that room (hint: she had trysts with Mr. S in that room). But no dice, the hotel was quite booked so they got us a different room with what turned out to be an even better location and view.
I had business on Friday, and we did a business dinner as couples, with my company's lawyers and their spouses. SW was dressed very tastefully in a mint/powder green ensemble with lace pants, full sheaths built in underneath, and a matching green summery sweater that showed off her buxom chest. She was confident, ever the part of the supportive and conversational wife.
After dinner, we stayed for another glass of wine (her) and vodka martini (me) and shut the place down. We found our way back to the hotel and immediately got busy. It had been some days since we had time to be intimate and vacation sex is always nice. It was raunchy and dirty. We referred to her time in this hotel in a room up one floor, fucking Mr. S. She was eager to please and I was even in her ass for a few minutes. Ended up taking me in her mouth and swallowing. Very unusual for her.
After, she volunteered that the reason she had soured on Mr. S is that he completely stood her up the last time they were to get together. And that he was always late, with excuses that he was on a call or similar. Basically, power play moves (whether or not intentional) that demonstrated his belief he was the one getting the nookie, the side piece, and that she would be available whenever he was ready.
I, being the observant one, ere in my post-orgasmic stupor, suddenly realized (but did not overplay it) that they had arranged to get together on one of the previous visits and she never told me about it, because ultimately it didn't happen.
It suddenly made sense to me.
I asked her if that was the night she had so much trouble, that Saturday night in May. When she was crying at 1:30 in the morning that nobody wanted her, that her friends all let her down socially, and that even the schlub at the bar, who hit on her in a prior visit and she laughed in his face, and whom she was going to give a chance that night after plans "with her girlfriend" didn't work out, messed it up by being such a schmuck. So she got in a fight with a younger woman who was being a narcissistic bitch, then went upstairs and had the meltdown.
She tripped over her words and obfuscated. I said nothing. It was late, and I figured I'd have a chance to pull the balance of it out of her at some time in the near future.
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Love that you're able to fill in some of the gaps.
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slenderfish
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I guess I should add, as it's important, that I did make a comment to her as follows:
"That's just wrong. What a loser. You should be the priority of any man, lucky to have even a chance with you. Even if you are his girl on the side. You deserve only the best." Or something like that.
"That's just wrong. What a loser. You should be the priority of any man, lucky to have even a chance with you. Even if you are his girl on the side. You deserve only the best." Or something like that.
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afagehi7
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I think the idea it's a power play is spot on. Good for her to stand her ground. He could easily find other power plays that aren't so asshole-ish.
Shame the bar boy didn't have better game. It seems like it would have been his lucky night
Shame the bar boy didn't have better game. It seems like it would have been his lucky night
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For me it added an extra erotic element that she wanted to indulge in sex with you in the same room where Mr. S had previously fucked her -- apparently on multiple occasions since you said "trysts". It would have been nice if you could have had that room, but apparently it still added to your excitement that she talked about her time with Mr. S in a room one floor up.slenderfish wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:23 pmLet's back up, and indulge a quick update about Saturday night.
We arrived Thursday, got checked into the hotel. She kept requesting one certain room as we were checking in. She winked at me and said the view is stellar and she has prior good experience with that room (hint: she had trysts with Mr. S in that room). But no dice, the hotel was quite booked so they got us a different room with what turned out to be an even better location and view.
I had business on Friday, and we did a business dinner as couples, with my company's lawyers and their spouses. SW was dressed very tastefully in a mint/powder green ensemble with lace pants, full sheaths built in underneath, and a matching green summery sweater that showed off her buxom chest. She was confident, ever the part of the supportive and conversational wife.
After dinner, we stayed for another glass of wine (her) and vodka martini (me) and shut the place down. We found our way back to the hotel and immediately got busy. It had been some days since we had time to be intimate and vacation sex is always nice. It was raunchy and dirty. We referred to her time in this hotel in a room up one floor, fucking Mr. S. She was eager to please and I was even in her ass for a few minutes. Ended up taking me in her mouth and swallowing. Very unusual for her.
After, she volunteered that the reason she had soured on Mr. S is that he completely stood her up the last time they were to get together. And that he was always late, with excuses that he was on a call or similar. Basically, power play moves (whether or not intentional) that demonstrated his belief he was the one getting the nookie, the side piece, and that she would be available whenever he was ready.
I, being the observant one, ere in my post-orgasmic stupor, suddenly realized (but did not overplay it) that they had arranged to get together on one of the previous visits and she never told me about it, because ultimately it didn't happen.
It suddenly made sense to me.
I asked her if that was the night she had so much trouble, that Saturday night in May. When she was crying at 1:30 in the morning that nobody wanted her, that her friends all let her down socially, and that even the schlub at the bar, who hit on her in a prior visit and she laughed in his face, and whom she was going to give a chance that night after plans "with her girlfriend" didn't work out, messed it up by being such a schmuck. So she got in a fight with a younger woman who was being a narcissistic bitch, then went upstairs and had the meltdown.
She tripped over her words and obfuscated. I said nothing. It was late, and I figured I'd have a chance to pull the balance of it out of her at some time in the near future.
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anonymister1948
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Wow, such an amazing lack of communication! Pardon me for saying this but you and SW live two completely different lives when it comes to her adventures. She's got her thing and you have yours and they are NOT on the same page.slenderfish wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:38 pm
Apparently she was surprised at his text because (and I didn't know at the time) she had really decided she was finished with him. I know she had said that in the past, including prior to her solo trip to the area in May for her annual Mother's Day visit. I also recall that I was aware she had contacted both him and Mr. M just before traveling there, despite her saying she was done with both of these guys because of lack of appropriate contact and follow up by them (e.g. they should be chasing her a bit).
Seems she has no problem sharing her hotwife adventures with someone other than you. My guess is that her friend knows all the details of her time with Mr. S and Mr. Big. Maybe you should get those from Ms. H instead?It turns out she actually forwarded it to her girlfriend Ms. H.
It turns out she has shared her hotwife conversion story and history with Ms. H. And looked to Ms. H for guidance as to how or whether to reply to Mr. S' text message. And said nothing of it until a sloppy, after-sex late night conversation with me, there this past Monday night. She told me of Ms. H's recommendation. It wasn't much different from mine, but of course my thoughts are met with skepticism but Ms. H has perspective so her thought have gravitas.
SW has said in the past she wants a DADT marriage and this confirms it. I think if you guys are to make this work, you should sit down and WRITE a relationship agreement that covers this sort of stuff. Don't leave it to chance or circumstance. Spell it out exactly. Then go get your kinky stuff on with someone other than your wife. Because between this and the conversation you outlined a few weeks ago regarding SW's distaste in retelling her adventures, leaves little doubt in this reader's mind that her default mode is obfuscating, half-truths, and outright lying.
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slenderfish
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Yes, I think she is getting more familiar with what she's doing and how she can provide me some goodies. She seems much more aware now. I consider it a very good development. More on that theme as I provide the balance of my summary of last weekend.isinlarsa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:28 am
For me it added an extra erotic element that she wanted to indulge in sex with you in the same room where Mr. S had previously fucked her -- apparently on multiple occasions since you said "trysts". It would have been nice if you could have had that room, but apparently it still added to your excitement that she talked about her time with Mr. S in a room one floor up.
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slenderfish
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Your point is spot on. I wish she would be more open about it all but it is improving. The consistent theme is that she is so self-critical and sensitive to my over-reacting (in a hotwife husband way) to any little thing she says "might" happen, that she waits until it happens. She doesn't want to feel rejected by anyone and certainly prefers not to acknowledge if this happens or happened. I believe this is the bigger driver.anonymister1948 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:40 am
Wow, such an amazing lack of communication! Pardon me for saying this but you and SW live two completely different lives when it comes to her adventures. She's got her thing and you have yours and they are NOT on the same page.
Yes, I'm not yet close friends with Ms. H and perhaps will never be friends with her. But it's a good development all the same, in that Ms. H has a very open and flexible view toward sexuality and this allows SW to have a "safe" sounding board. I believe this sharing with Ms. H has allowed SW to settle more into the hotwife attitude and adjust her mindset.anonymister1948 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:40 amSeems she has no problem sharing her hotwife adventures with someone other than you. My guess is that her friend knows all the details of her time with Mr. S and Mr. Big. Maybe you should get those from Ms. H instead?
Ms. H apparently was in a long-term relationship with her (now-estranged) husband. The husband apparently has unspeakable sexual preferences. Makes hotwifing look absolutely mainstream. To my understanding, at some point both of them realized they had secrets and it took some time to reach a detente allowing the exchange of secrets. But SW said that Ms. H's secret is mind-blowing and will never be shared. Also that Ms. H and her husband are certainly never getting back together.
SW needs to ultimately trust herself and me. I believe we are making progress, though certainly slower than molasses.anonymister1948 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:40 amSW has said in the past she wants a DADT marriage and this confirms it. I think if you guys are to make this work, you should sit down and WRITE a relationship agreement that covers this sort of stuff. Don't leave it to chance or circumstance. Spell it out exactly. Then go get your kinky stuff on with someone other than your wife. Because between this and the conversation you outlined a few weeks ago regarding SW's distaste in retelling her adventures, leaves little doubt in this reader's mind that her default mode is obfuscating, half-truths, and outright lying.
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anonymister1948
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slenderfish wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:32 am
SW needs to ultimately trust herself and me. I believe we are making progress, though certainly slower than molasses.
Looking from the outside in, it appears that SW really has difficulty trusting you with the truth. I don't know why she seems to manifest her insecurity that way, but there you are!
One can't help but wonder how many other men that you don't know about were either fuckbuddy candidates who for one reason or another didn't make the grade or she actually fucked, or just as likely is still fucking and will never tell you about. Perhaps in her mind, she's already in a DADT marriage and it's you, rather than her, who fails to accept it.
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slenderfish
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Let's continue on the point of Mr. S and his power playing, and Ms. H's perspectives. Here's what SW said came from Ms. H:
- The power play observation confirmed
- SW unwittingly set herself up for that by letting him think she was just a beautiful woman with a hall pass; this implies something not being fulfilled at home
- In the future, SW must let the man know she is the one making the choice and she is really going for the side piece
- SW should take back the power by sitting down with Mr. S., face to face, and letting him know that she chose him for her own reasons, a fantasy for her and her husband (I'll note that I added she should first assert to him that a woman like her should never be taken for granted and stood up, late arrival, etc. no matter the circumstance)
- This hotwife "kink" is not really "out there" compared to many other kinks
So I think this is settling into SW's mind and she is getting more comfortable in the role. More illustration of this point in the balance of my postings from last weekend.
Jumping back on a flight home now. More when I have a chance.
- The power play observation confirmed
- SW unwittingly set herself up for that by letting him think she was just a beautiful woman with a hall pass; this implies something not being fulfilled at home
- In the future, SW must let the man know she is the one making the choice and she is really going for the side piece
- SW should take back the power by sitting down with Mr. S., face to face, and letting him know that she chose him for her own reasons, a fantasy for her and her husband (I'll note that I added she should first assert to him that a woman like her should never be taken for granted and stood up, late arrival, etc. no matter the circumstance)
- This hotwife "kink" is not really "out there" compared to many other kinks
So I think this is settling into SW's mind and she is getting more comfortable in the role. More illustration of this point in the balance of my postings from last weekend.
Jumping back on a flight home now. More when I have a chance.
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slenderfish
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Yes, fair and perhaps this is more accurate.anonymister1948 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:40 amslenderfish wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:32 am
SW needs to ultimately trust herself and me. I believe we are making progress, though certainly slower than molasses.
Looking from the outside in, it appears that SW really has difficulty trusting you with the truth. I don't know why she seems to manifest her insecurity that way, but there you are!
One can't help but wonder how many other men that you don't know about were either fuckbuddy candidates who for one reason or another didn't make the grade or she actually fucked, or just as likely is still fucking and will never tell you about. Perhaps in her mind, she's already in a DADT marriage and it's you, rather than her, who fails to accept it.
I've already flipped my expectations and am operating based on the assumptions you noted above, in my version as follows:
- She may have cheated with Mr. M back in 2013 when she was trying to meet up with him on the down-low when she traveled to New York to visit girlfriends.
- She almost certainly slept with Mr. B last August when he stayed overnight, and was openly and obviously flirting with him and pulling him into her sexual energy beginning a year prior, in June 2019, when we were traveling in Europe and crossed paths at a social event.
- She has a strong connection with Mr. G (her trainer) and even if not a sexual thing, it's certainly a fling in one way or another. I prefer to hope and assume it's sexual.
If the above is true, then I'm more of a cuckold than a hotwife husband. If not, then I'm what I think I am, a hotwife husband.
She is, in either case, a sexy feline who I knowingly pursued even though I know she was cheating on her boyfriend when she started dating me (and she did not tell me, I had to find out suddenly and accidentally). I have to now acknowledge that it was some of my inner kink that drove me to pursue her.
And I apparently enjoy, at some level, this cat and mouse game. I enjoy the slow progress and her slow movement to opening up more sexually, to me, and to others.
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afagehi7
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Any clue as to what Mrs H and/ or her hubby was into? I can't think of anything as bad as you say.slenderfish wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:32 amYour point is spot on. I wish she would be more open about it all but it is improving. The consistent theme is that she is so self-critical and sensitive to my over-reacting (in a hotwife husband way) to any little thing she says "might" happen, that she waits until it happens. She doesn't want to feel rejected by anyone and certainly prefers not to acknowledge if this happens or happened. I believe this is the bigger driver.anonymister1948 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:40 am
Wow, such an amazing lack of communication! Pardon me for saying this but you and SW live two completely different lives when it comes to her adventures. She's got her thing and you have yours and they are NOT on the same page.
Yes, I'm not yet close friends with Ms. H and perhaps will never be friends with her. But it's a good development all the same, in that Ms. H has a very open and flexible view toward sexuality and this allows SW to have a "safe" sounding board. I believe this sharing with Ms. H has allowed SW to settle more into the hotwife attitude and adjust her mindset.anonymister1948 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:40 amSeems she has no problem sharing her hotwife adventures with someone other than you. My guess is that her friend knows all the details of her time with Mr. S and Mr. Big. Maybe you should get those from Ms. H instead?
Ms. H apparently was in a long-term relationship with her (now-estranged) husband. The husband apparently has unspeakable sexual preferences. Makes hotwifing look absolutely mainstream. To my understanding, at some point both of them realized they had secrets and it took some time to reach a detente allowing the exchange of secrets. But SW said that Ms. H's secret is mind-blowing and will never be shared. Also that Ms. H and her husband are certainly never getting back together.
SW needs to ultimately trust herself and me. I believe we are making progress, though certainly slower than molasses.anonymister1948 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:40 amSW has said in the past she wants a DADT marriage and this confirms it. I think if you guys are to make this work, you should sit down and WRITE a relationship agreement that covers this sort of stuff. Don't leave it to chance or circumstance. Spell it out exactly. Then go get your kinky stuff on with someone other than your wife. Because between this and the conversation you outlined a few weeks ago regarding SW's distaste in retelling her adventures, leaves little doubt in this reader's mind that her default mode is obfuscating, half-truths, and outright lying.
Do you think Mrs H would perhaps be an instigator? Ya know, telling her she's lucky that she has a permanent hall pass and encouraging her to use it? Maybe even a partner in crime?
Edit: it seems like she's a positive influence on sw getting side dick.
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anonymister1948
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I'm glad it's working for you!slenderfish wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:50 am
And I apparently enjoy, at some level, this cat and mouse game. I enjoy the slow progress and her slow movement to opening up more sexually, to me, and to others.
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Glad to hear you feel her wanting you to take her in a room and bed where another man fucked her. One of my favorite memories was knowing that my wife's favorite young, black "studmuffin" (her term for him) was fucking her at that very moment in our marital bed.slenderfish wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 amYes, I think she is getting more familiar with what she's doing and how she can provide me some goodies. She seems much more aware now. I consider it a very good development. More on that theme as I provide the balance of my summary of last weekend.isinlarsa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:28 am
For me it added an extra erotic element that she wanted to indulge in sex with you in the same room where Mr. S had previously fucked her -- apparently on multiple occasions since you said "trysts". It would have been nice if you could have had that room, but apparently it still added to your excitement that she talked about her time with Mr. S in a room one floor up.
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slenderfish
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No clue. I got the clear message not to pry or to ask in any way. So I'll pay close attention and glean what SW provides me. She eventually shares everything that's on her mind.
The way SW spoke, it is something that is rather repelling to a woman. I did ask SW if the reason Ms. H and her husband are no longer together had this as an element. She never directly answered this, even though I asked it in two different ways.
Finally, her estranged husband has been over to our house a couple of times (as the +1 with one of SW's invited female friends, as this friend was close to the couple). This same female friend separately introduced SW (and me) to Ms. H, by bringing her as +1 to SW's birthday party this past February. The three of them get together for girls' night sometimes on Wednesdays when I have boys' night.
I think Ms. H will be somewhat of an instigator, probably without even trying. Ms. H's soon-to-be ex- is about 20 years older and has received accolades and awards signifying he reached the highest plateau in his profession. As such, they were around all kinds of people and lifestyles. Ms. H continues to give SW perspective that it's okay to do your own thing. She is essentially single now and has been covertly dating a man 20 years younger than her for over a year now, and has never introduced this guy to anyone in her friends group for fear of being judged, etc. But she recently suggested SW meet this guy and the next logical plan would be to go out together as two couples.
As above, yes a positive influence from my point of view. Now the question is how positive?
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slenderfish
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Next installment of last weekend.
Sunday we slept in just a bit and headed over to SW's sister's house. They live on another lake and keep a ski boat and wave runner in the water at a dock behind their house all summer. We spent the afternoon water skiing, wakeboarding, lounging, swimming, drinking beer and wine, grilling, eating. I proved yet again that I can still do all of it. But each year I pay a bigger price in soreness the day after.
She had open time on Monday to meet up with Mr. S but never really put it together. I believe she wasn't quite ready to face him and wants to get her mind straight as to what she needs to say to him. She did later (on the flight home) firmly state that she does want to do all of it in person. I agreed with her. I also know that she has a history of being cross with him and then, when she expresses herself in person, he melts her heart and they are right back in bed! So that's out there as a near-future possibility.
Monday she had errands and I had meetings, then the business dinner with her eye-popping mint green outfit which also made her breasts stand out. She did not wear a bra, rather just gummy nipple sticky covers. They make it look like she has bigger, puffy nipples rather than covering up. I suppose they do cover up her natural pokies.
After the dinner, we got back to the hotel room and it was our last night. I was horny but she seemed to want to go to sleep. I challenged her to get past her short-term feeling and jump into bed. She refused and then I deliberately pouted like a child, pulled up the covers and attempted to feign sleep. She called me a child and a little bitch for being so pouty and then tore back the covers, shucked off her nightie, and rode me.
She kept teasing me about being pouty and it just got me going more and more. I teased her about being a closet slut and how well she rides me, that she has so much sexiness she better be careful because the "sluts" from the boat will try again. She then said something about the one girl (the one I hung out with several weeks back at the resort in the hot afternoon, who had dressed so provocatively the day prior at Mr. E's and Mr. R's party). She said that this young brunette is incredibly beautiful and young and looks fabulous in her expensive designer attire, but down inside she's just a slut. I said that SW might take some hints, that of course a guy like Mr. E is looking for someone who is young, dresses well, and is on fire between the sheets. I told SW that Mr. E has started dating this young woman more regularly and to be ready to become friendlier with her, otherwise it'll be an awkward mess for SW.
I then reminded SW (while we were fucking away) that this woman had been making out with the other woman on the back of Mr. E's boat in the after-party of July 4, that those two were fondling each others' breasts not 18 inches from SW. That brunette was in her g-string. That she pushed her ass up against SW while grinding and french kissing the other woman. That her ass was up against my hand and it was a firm, tight ass cheek, just the kind that SW works hard with Mr. G to keep firm for herself. That I could not resist and it was there for me to caress, and I did so naturally in the same way I did with SW's firm ass. That SW's is as good or better vs. this young brunette.
SW started responding with extra vigor and wetness. I then took the story to the next level.
SW said that she would never be with a woman like that, a lesbian. I reminded her that she's not a lesbian, she likes men. Also for the first time told her (and it's true) that she was just putting on a show, for the benefit of SW, at the request of Mr. E.
This sunk into her thoughts for a minute and then I went for the gusto.
I said that on some drunken night in the future, we well may be on the boat with Mr. E and this woman, happy drunk, late after a party, and on the bed making out, and Mr. E might move over to start caressing SW's firm ass with one hand while caressing his girl's firm ass with the other hand. That the other girl, who loves to do things to please her man (Mr. E) might then guide Mr. E's big cock right into SW's tight pussy, unexpectedly from behind. And that Mr. E would then fill her up with his big cock, and give her the proper fucking she deserves. She actually asked me a) how I know he has a big cock (I saw it on one or more the ski trips) and b) how do I know he is any good (he gets so many women it's obvious he's a master cocksman).
At that point she went over the top and her whole demeanor and energy lifted to this happy, sexy sprite of a beautiful woman at peace with the world, her body, her life. We reached orgasm and I figured we'd go to sleep after a bit but she was now really in this euphoric state. She grabbed her phone, put on her favorite music, and just started dancing and moving and shimmying and grinding, naked as a jailbird. I was momentarily thinking about other hotel guests making complaints about the loud music, but did not want the moment to end. We just danced there in the hotel room, free and naked, smiles on our faces and not a care in the world. Probably for a good half hour.
I was initially taken by my mind to the image of the security video from that night back in August 2020 on a similarly hot summer night, where she was dancing on the pole, wine glass in hand, for Mr. B. Giggling, shaking her ass, seductive and demure in the shortest of comfortable skirts and very light cotton fitted tee-shirt. And then I snapped back to the present reality, even better, that image supplanted by what was right in front of me.
She did it for me, Monday night, in full buff. It was fabulous. Just so unexpected and light and easy. A gift like no other.
Sunday we slept in just a bit and headed over to SW's sister's house. They live on another lake and keep a ski boat and wave runner in the water at a dock behind their house all summer. We spent the afternoon water skiing, wakeboarding, lounging, swimming, drinking beer and wine, grilling, eating. I proved yet again that I can still do all of it. But each year I pay a bigger price in soreness the day after.
She had open time on Monday to meet up with Mr. S but never really put it together. I believe she wasn't quite ready to face him and wants to get her mind straight as to what she needs to say to him. She did later (on the flight home) firmly state that she does want to do all of it in person. I agreed with her. I also know that she has a history of being cross with him and then, when she expresses herself in person, he melts her heart and they are right back in bed! So that's out there as a near-future possibility.
Monday she had errands and I had meetings, then the business dinner with her eye-popping mint green outfit which also made her breasts stand out. She did not wear a bra, rather just gummy nipple sticky covers. They make it look like she has bigger, puffy nipples rather than covering up. I suppose they do cover up her natural pokies.
After the dinner, we got back to the hotel room and it was our last night. I was horny but she seemed to want to go to sleep. I challenged her to get past her short-term feeling and jump into bed. She refused and then I deliberately pouted like a child, pulled up the covers and attempted to feign sleep. She called me a child and a little bitch for being so pouty and then tore back the covers, shucked off her nightie, and rode me.
She kept teasing me about being pouty and it just got me going more and more. I teased her about being a closet slut and how well she rides me, that she has so much sexiness she better be careful because the "sluts" from the boat will try again. She then said something about the one girl (the one I hung out with several weeks back at the resort in the hot afternoon, who had dressed so provocatively the day prior at Mr. E's and Mr. R's party). She said that this young brunette is incredibly beautiful and young and looks fabulous in her expensive designer attire, but down inside she's just a slut. I said that SW might take some hints, that of course a guy like Mr. E is looking for someone who is young, dresses well, and is on fire between the sheets. I told SW that Mr. E has started dating this young woman more regularly and to be ready to become friendlier with her, otherwise it'll be an awkward mess for SW.
I then reminded SW (while we were fucking away) that this woman had been making out with the other woman on the back of Mr. E's boat in the after-party of July 4, that those two were fondling each others' breasts not 18 inches from SW. That brunette was in her g-string. That she pushed her ass up against SW while grinding and french kissing the other woman. That her ass was up against my hand and it was a firm, tight ass cheek, just the kind that SW works hard with Mr. G to keep firm for herself. That I could not resist and it was there for me to caress, and I did so naturally in the same way I did with SW's firm ass. That SW's is as good or better vs. this young brunette.
SW started responding with extra vigor and wetness. I then took the story to the next level.
SW said that she would never be with a woman like that, a lesbian. I reminded her that she's not a lesbian, she likes men. Also for the first time told her (and it's true) that she was just putting on a show, for the benefit of SW, at the request of Mr. E.
This sunk into her thoughts for a minute and then I went for the gusto.
I said that on some drunken night in the future, we well may be on the boat with Mr. E and this woman, happy drunk, late after a party, and on the bed making out, and Mr. E might move over to start caressing SW's firm ass with one hand while caressing his girl's firm ass with the other hand. That the other girl, who loves to do things to please her man (Mr. E) might then guide Mr. E's big cock right into SW's tight pussy, unexpectedly from behind. And that Mr. E would then fill her up with his big cock, and give her the proper fucking she deserves. She actually asked me a) how I know he has a big cock (I saw it on one or more the ski trips) and b) how do I know he is any good (he gets so many women it's obvious he's a master cocksman).
At that point she went over the top and her whole demeanor and energy lifted to this happy, sexy sprite of a beautiful woman at peace with the world, her body, her life. We reached orgasm and I figured we'd go to sleep after a bit but she was now really in this euphoric state. She grabbed her phone, put on her favorite music, and just started dancing and moving and shimmying and grinding, naked as a jailbird. I was momentarily thinking about other hotel guests making complaints about the loud music, but did not want the moment to end. We just danced there in the hotel room, free and naked, smiles on our faces and not a care in the world. Probably for a good half hour.
I was initially taken by my mind to the image of the security video from that night back in August 2020 on a similarly hot summer night, where she was dancing on the pole, wine glass in hand, for Mr. B. Giggling, shaking her ass, seductive and demure in the shortest of comfortable skirts and very light cotton fitted tee-shirt. And then I snapped back to the present reality, even better, that image supplanted by what was right in front of me.
She did it for me, Monday night, in full buff. It was fabulous. Just so unexpected and light and easy. A gift like no other.
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Have you ever talked about dance lesson for SW.
It helps open her more into men.
I had experience with dancers (not stripper) and they had no issue for fast sex. Like boxers to punch someone.
Or maybe dance hall to help her perform a great lap dance.
It helps open her more into men.
I had experience with dancers (not stripper) and they had no issue for fast sex. Like boxers to punch someone.
Or maybe dance hall to help her perform a great lap dance.
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Not sure if you picked up on this but I do ballroom dance as a hobby. Private lesson at least once a week. Presently working on a quickstep number to perform in a few weeks.Mr Mrs Cream wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:51 amHave you ever talked about dance lesson for SW.
It helps open her more into men.
I had experience with dancers (not stripper) and they had no issue for fast sex. Like boxers to punch someone.
Or maybe dance hall to help her perform a great lap dance.
SW has said if I get private dance with my blonde instructor no jealousy issues at least once a week then she gets handsome Mr. G private training at least once a week.
I'd love for her to add dance. I'll consider what may be possible here.
To be honest I was working on perhaps a private deep tissue massage for her at our house. I dropped a trial hint on this a couple weeks ago. I think it has been sitting in her thinking since then.
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SF
Monday she had errands and I had meetings, then the business dinner with her eye-popping mint green outfit which also made her breasts stand out. She did not wear a bra, rather just gummy nipple sticky covers. They make it look like she has bigger, puffy nipples rather than covering up. I suppose they do cover up her natural pokies
I don't suppose you posted a picture of this.......mouthwateringly described outfit by chance?
Monday she had errands and I had meetings, then the business dinner with her eye-popping mint green outfit which also made her breasts stand out. She did not wear a bra, rather just gummy nipple sticky covers. They make it look like she has bigger, puffy nipples rather than covering up. I suppose they do cover up her natural pokies
I don't suppose you posted a picture of this.......mouthwateringly described outfit by chance?