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Re: Jane' adventure

Unread post by aemn711 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:54 pm

jane wrote:....Right now, i'm feeling a little lost though. Every now and then this lifestyle just leaves me feeling out of sorts. I feel really stressed out about who i am and how i am changing.
It sounds like your husband needs to take a stronger role in comforting you and reassuring you - am I right? It sounds like you need a bigger emotional connection if you are going to have great multiple Os but this guy is not sophisticated enough to realize your needs

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Unread post by mrs_palmetto » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:30 pm

Jane, All I can say is men on the net behave one way then in person can be another way.. I don't get it either.. I'd be pissed about the experience too, I mean what would've turned me off simply by what you described was the guy telling you to do stuff... I don't dig on that.. I feel like it's like "barking orders at me" No thanks really.. I'm all set!!! "Touch my cock" Whatever man, I think I know what I'm suppose to do to turn a person on... I don't need some kinda air traffic controler flagging my way the whole damn time.. Dinner wasn't that great asshole to put up with all that noise.. lol, Please.. Men are seriously retarded.. If you wanna treat a lady like that buy a pro really!!! They will do everything you say BUT don't be treatin open minded people like that I didn't get that $500 or whatever some hoe charges and I will so call you out on your shit in a fast way... That's total Bullshit. See now that's why it's hard to meet ppl online if you're a woman.. They wanna act like you're some kinda hoe or something.. Whatever.. I think your new motto's gonna work!!! Play the role of the "cheating wife" whocares right? And maybe less INFO will improve the behavior.

And as far as confusion goes, don't get confused.. It's like this babycakes, for every chick there's like 20 dudes lined up to his #1!!! Remember that. Men are the whores, not us.. This is why we win.. Most men will screw just about anybody their standards change depending on lack off ass.. Keep yours high too. Too many of those kinda guys around and I'm not trying to make a loser douche bag apart of my memory of people I layed down with.. That's for the special people.. I understand honey I do.

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Re: Jane' adventure

Unread post by jane » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:21 am

MrsP the guy didn't really do anything that bothered me. He was a little dominant but that's okay. He's not what's been bothering me.

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Unread post by allengt » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:24 am

jane wrote:MrsP the guy didn't really do anything that bothered me. He was a little dominant but that's okay. He's not what's been bothering me.
Jane, you need to get the religious and moral things out of our mind and look on this as recreational sex only. If you are really having issues with the religious part then I have a group that you should join and talk to the members there.
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Re: Jane' adventure

Unread post by mrs_palmetto » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:49 am

I don't understand how any religious or moral issues are causing you grief if you and ur hubby are completely fine with what you decide to do.. In your original post it sounds like the isssue was more with the person you picked that's why I said what I said about the "barking orders" There is being dominant and there is being disrespectful.. Maybe the way he was behaving put you off a little then in turn made you feel bad about the experience because he somehow cheapened it and now it's making you question your morals and values? I think a ploy thing would work great for you personally if guilt issues are a problem. Guilt issues can stem from putting up with something you didn't want to put up with.. You said in your OP "I couldn't wait for it to be over" Maybe the issue is you didn't stop the situation and now you feel used because you didn't wanna really do it. The thing to remember is lovers, BF's, FB's or whatever you label them aren't your spouse and you don't have to toss them booty because "they're horny" if you aren't into it. It's your body if you choose to share it with someone don't just cause someone makes you feel like you were "excepted" to.. Maybe that's the issue?

And if I were you Jane I wouldn't consider married men, I think the guilt issues will get in the way too much for you.

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Unread post by zhershey1082 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:06 pm

Janes husband and Jane,
Thanks for bringing us into your new experiences. My question is directed to your husband. Do you think your marriage should solidify a few years before embarking on this hot wife journey? Your kids are very young and you obviously haven’t been married very long. Jane is careful about her time away from her kids.

Many on this board have been married 20-30 years and needed some excitement in their lives. Some started right marriage but that might be the exception.

Point is, Jane appears confused at times. She has met some self-centered guys and had some bad experiences. But she may just want to be a mother and wife for a few years and re-enter the HW style at a later date. As usual, I am probably wrong, but that is the message that came through in her last post. Don’t continue this activity just to please the horny guys on this site. You have to decide what is it that Jane and janes husband both want together.

Thanks and Good Luck

P.S. How did you and hubby spend Valentine’s Day?

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Unread post by mrs_palmetto » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:36 pm

jane wrote: He isn't really someone i can see as a "boyfriend", but the sex was something else. Yesterday i went back again...

Sounds like you are considering the possiblity of him being BF material if you've even thought about it... But I maybe wrong.. Is this the same guy from the OP?? I haven't read all 10 pages of this thread to get all the facts lil busy lately..

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Unread post by Janes Husband » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:33 pm

No this is a different guy.
As to whether we should wait. We've talked about whether this is a forever lifestyle for us, or just relatively short term thing. It's evoleved for us over time. Not real sure really . Jane isn't always sure what kind of a guy she wants, and we don't always agree. But i'd guess most couples have issues . She has several different issues at once going on, let alone our "regular " life.

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Unread post by Matt2 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:34 am

zhershey1082 wrote:Many on this board have been married 20-30 years and needed some excitement in their lives. Some started right marriage but that might be the exception.
I couldn't let this go by without saying I'm one of the "exceptions". Our first child was born within days of our first anniversary, and our first shared petting session with a "friend" occurred within days of our second anniversary. We were around 23 at the time and much fantasy and soul-searching happened between our first and second year, enough to make us want to experiment with the "promised highs" of taboo sex. The marriage didn't need it, we just wanted a little "taste" to see what it was like. I thought it was pretty great but it frightened my wife - she wasn't prepared to enjoy it as much as she did. With us at so young an age it wasn't about re-invigorating the marriage: it was about getting high on sex. I think we both realized that someday in the future we'd take it all the way. She couldn't decide whether that was a good thing or not.
Janes Husband wrote:We've talked about whether this is a forever lifestyle for us, or just relatively short term thing. It's evoleved for us over time.
After a few years, after she finally took the plunge, I was of the mindset to just follow her lead: whatever she wanted (or could accept ) in this arena I'd be happy with. But she was occasionally troubled by the "bad girl syndrome" - one of her "selves" didn't much care for the other "self" and by this time she'd become a doting mother of two who increasingly slept with one of our closest friends at home (when her juices were flowing it was all good.) Try as I might, I couldn't quite convince her 100% to enjoy her body's urges as naturally human and healthy. Sometimes she simply felt crestfallen. We weren't 30 yet.
Long before the Internet, long before dating sites and support groups... we found that her doing a close friend now and then was kinda hot!

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Unread post by cum4me2 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:44 am

Chiming in now that I'm sort of back?! I think hubby is doing the correct thing by being supportive and not trying to hard to influence her either way. It ultimately will have to be something Jane has to work through and hopefully come out the other end with a better sense of "whole" self. The wife, mother, lover, hotwife, good girl and spiritual and who you are as a person for and of yourself.

It's an ongoing battle to reconcile all the aspects of who we are and how were suppose to be. We all struggle from time to time with this issue from a social, moral or cultural perspective. That some of the things that make us happy and who we are as a person seem in direct conflict to who or what were percieved as being by others. ie a married women that takes other lovers, a business exce. that enjoys wearing panties.. We are so used to being judged that we begin to judge ourselves rather than accepting, embracing and loving all that we are. The good wife, a doting mother, a faith driven soul, a devoted daughter, a dedicated friend and insatiable lover and Hotwife rolled up into one terrific if not conflicted person...ok. We all are, that not always bad. It gives us a measure of interspection that cleansing sometimes.

At some point we "find ourselves".... I always hated that term but as I get older, hopefully somewhat wiser I've come to understand it. We discover who we are, sadly most people on a core level don't have a clue. They believe only what they've been told, taught or labeled at home, school or church and that suffices for a while until something challenges those beliefs good or bad. My wife still struggles with negetive self images to this day regardless what how she is as a person, which flies in the face of what she believes. But because it's so strongly held it's hard to break from that kind of stinking thinking no matter how good or kind or loving she really is. In the end there's only two roads a person can take with this struggle. 1, is to keep on believing it and live your life with fractured or splintered happiness. 2, discover all of you that you are the good and the bad, the flaws and the shortcomings and also the wonderful and limitness person that you are. Now strive to understand and accept all those things that coexist together inside of you and relish each of those moments for all that they are, part of who You are.

As to when a person or couple comes into this, everyone is different. Depending on their sexual comfort level and life circumstance it can be early on, in the later years, somewhere in the middle or not at all. To think that a couple is more secure and better able to handle the issues that can arise from this when they're more settled or when they are empty nesters or have 20 years under their belts is not always true. Young people experiment sexually too, they know what interest them, what works for them. Communication no matter what age is the key. For both husband and wife to be on the same page, neither pushing the other into something they don't want or aren't emotionally ready for. What does age have to do with that? Having that kind of commitment and trust in one another comes mainly from love not a certain amount of years married.
As her interest in a new guy rises so do I begin to rise...

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I thought it appropriate given the subject in hand...

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Re: Jane' adventure

Unread post by pasadena95 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:45 am

Conflicted feelings and emotions are not uncommon. The highs of sex release endorphins and provide an adreneline rush that can be intoxicating. In the light of day, when pretty much everything else in your life is conventional (work, kids, bills, the house etc.) you might struggle with your reactions to the hotwifing adventures and possibly even feel somewhat guilty or morally confused. This is a sign of rational thinking and cannot be easily dismissed. That is why it is so critical to take baby steps first and proceed only at a pace with which you are comfortable. It is especially important that every step along the way be taken without any external pressure or coaxing. You must feel comfortable, safe and ultimately receive sufficient enjoyment from your experiences to make them worthwhile.
Your partner can be supportive in every way, and even encouraging, but only the wife can decide if she is really suited to this lifestyle. In truth, most women are not.

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Re: Jane' adventure

Unread post by mrs_reese » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:35 am

I love reading about your life right now Jane.
You know I completely support you.
I also know that it is very difficult to deal with the dueling emotions.
Remember that family comes first. The rest is all about having fun!
I am here for you. xoxo

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Unread post by jane » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:24 am

Last week was pretty wild. I was feeling out of sorts, so i saw a guy i had been seeing in january. Then on saturday night i went to a club with the new "bull". Without saying too much, it was a wild night.
So i'm sort of trying to be a bit less of a hotwife this week, and process everything.

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Unread post by panzer969 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:38 am

Hi Jane,
I hope things are settling down for you. Would things be better if you did MFM with your husband and one of your lovers? It's the only way we play so we can process everything together and there's nothing hidden from one another.

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Unread post by jane » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:42 am

I don't know. We've always felt that would be a bit too much for us. I know some couple feel more comfortable that way. I think i'd feel self conscious with him watching, and he has always expressed he'd feel extra jealous watching.

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Unread post by panzer969 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:05 am

I can understand that. It's taken forever for Mrs. Panzer to become comfortable with her body. Even when we first got married and she was an incredibly fit aerobics instructor she always felt like she should be in better shape somehow. Judging from all that we have of you, your tiny little avatar, (hint, hint!) I would have to assure you that you have nothing to feel self conscious about. I'm sure that you, like Mrs. Panzer, are a joy to behold while making love.

For me, it is SUCH a pleasure to see her with our friend, T. She is a delightful lover, giving and passionate. Your husband has nothing to worry about. If you were going to leave him for another it seems you would already have done so. For myself, my jealousy would kick in if I wasn't present while she was being ravished.

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Re: Jane' adventure

Unread post by Aynsley » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:06 am

Hi Jane,

Thanks for the updates. As a prelude to an MFM, you might
have Hubby arrange for an erotic massage; that's what we did.

Iris had the same worries, and we were already talking to someone
about an MFM, and she felt the massage was a good middle step.

So, one Sat., I got the hotel room, and made the arrangements.
The massage was awesome, Iris got to see that I wasn't going to freak out,
and she told me to go full steam ahead on arranging the MFM.

Now, finding a masseur that gives an erotic massage is another challenge,
but if you can.... ;)

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Unread post by kcmarriedcouple » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:11 am

Hi Jane,

My husband and I have been experimenting with the HW lifestyle for about 10 months now, he reads alot of these blogs and shows them to me and I have to say yours is the first one I have really been able to relate to. We seem to experience alot of the same emotions/struggles with this lifestyle. I have had about every feeling you have talked about along the way and have to admit some days I wonder why I'm doing this but then I talk to someone that interests me or see how excited my hubby is by it and suddenly I want to do it again, it is SO confusing sometimes! lol Anyway I appreciate your posts-I cant really relate to most Ive read because like you I tend to be shy and really NEED to feel an intellectual connection to these men before I can sleep with them. Sometimes when I read other posts and the women seem SO confident and REALLY onto it ALL the time and are so comfortable just meeting people and going at it and I feel like wow-I really dont belong in this lifestyle-like maybe its not right to make these men impress me or "pursue" me before I'm interested in sleeping with them. I know I'm not making much sense-its all hard to comprehend let alone explain to someone else lol.Again I appreciate your posts because its good to know I'm not the only one that has these types of feelings or struggles
MrJ

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Unread post by Matt2 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:16 am

jane wrote:I don't know. We've always felt that would be a bit too much for us. I know some couple feel more comfortable that way. I think i'd feel self conscious with him watching, and he has always expressed he'd feel extra jealous watching.
That seems strange to me, but everyone seeks their own balance in this hobby. Our very first time was together, albeit just a make-out session. When it finally happened for real it was together. I wrestled with immense jealousy when I was NOT there, but enjoyed extreme highs when I was. Again, everyone must really be different :up:
Long before the Internet, long before dating sites and support groups... we found that her doing a close friend now and then was kinda hot!

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Unread post by jane » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:18 am

If we did ever do mfm, i think it would have to be someone we were BOTH super comfortable with. Maybe if i ever let my poly tendency come out more.

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Unread post by panzer969 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:27 am

jane wrote:If we did ever do mfm, i think it would have to be someone we were BOTH super comfortable with. Maybe if i ever let my poly tendency come out more.
Yes, that is the key. The only way it's going to be any fun for anyone is if everyone is in tune. I get the feeling that you and kcmarriedcouple and Mrs. Panzer are all fairly similar. Lovemaking is so much more fun than simply fucking.

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Re: Jane' adventure

Unread post by Matt2 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:49 am

panzer969 wrote:
jane wrote:If we did ever do mfm, i think it would have to be someone we were BOTH super comfortable with. Maybe if i ever let my poly tendency come out more.
Yes, that is the key. The only way it's going to be any fun for anyone is if everyone is in tune. I get the feeling that you and kcmarriedcouple and Mrs. Panzer are all fairly similar. Lovemaking is so much more fun than simply fucking.

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At the risk of sounding redundant... I concur. Lovemaking is so much more fun than simply fucking.
Long before the Internet, long before dating sites and support groups... we found that her doing a close friend now and then was kinda hot!

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Re: Jane' adventure

Unread post by jane » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:52 am

So am i like double redundant??
Yes, i much prefer lovemaking. I've rarely used the f word, and rarely just call it sex .

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Unread post by Matt2 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:54 am

jane wrote:So am i like double redundant??
Yes, i much prefer lovemaking. I've rarely used the f word, and rarely just call it sex .
We found it much nicer when she had a warm, caring set of eyes to gaze into.
Long before the Internet, long before dating sites and support groups... we found that her doing a close friend now and then was kinda hot!

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Unread post by jane » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:08 am

Very much so. I found it can be dangerous to start caring for someone, but i have to like the man in order to be with him.
It seems like my thread is the chatroom today!

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