Young Wife May Start Again

[gwwkjt]

Sorry for a free paraphrasing and putting this in quotes, but I think it would be very funny if she actually said that:

Hon I know we just got married and you are given this promotion opportunity, but leaving my friends, my part-time bar job and my website design upstart to live in an expat community, spending my days in front of my laptop coding, either in the apartment or some bullshit Dubai shopping mall is just not for me.

I know it will a sacrifice for both of us since you will be away months at a time, coming back for a weeks holidays now and then, but the huge increase in your pay is well worth it. Besides since you brought it up I think it will be a good opportunity for the development of my sexual life. Here is the shortlist of candidates that I can think off the top of my head: Billy, Tre and Mr Grey…

[mundyman]

The question I have is, can she really keep up this pace long term?
At some point doesn’t it lose its thrill unless she keeps pushing the envelope? And then what does that look like?
It seems she’s filling in her free time while you’re away with sex. When your travel schedule does settle down, I would think you two will want to spend more time together and less time with her getting fucked multiple times a day by different men.
Thanks for taking the effort to share your story.

[perradeplaya]

https://youtu.be/uApjpJfAQ8Y

[gwwkjt]

OP: maybe you need to bring some order in all this and why not to use the same tools that we use in our corporate life, such as planning?

Perhaps you and Brandi should have a development plan consisting of 3 parts
1. Family development – things like planning children, buying a home etc
2. Career development. Brandi will have hers, and you will have your own
3. Sexual development (hers and yours)
Plan consists of goals and planned actions with timelines. There need to be a 360 degree feedback and action follow up

Of course will be an overlap, family career and sex partially be related, but it is good to have it written separately.

Depending how much you will be apart you have to realize that most of your wife’s sexual development will have to be separate from yours. Here you need to agree together on goals, promises, red lines, actions and timelines. Put in in writing and follow up. You see now that in just few months many promises were broken and Brandi is going ahead breakneck speed with you grabbing the steering wheel now and then. Have a plan and stick to it

You will have a big decision ahead whether to leave Brandi at home and to take her with her. Either way is very tricky

[Serrand]

Hello, you thread is definitely one of the most intriguing ones on this forum.

I think you got some good advice, especially from XYalpha. Some development are a bit concerning, and if I interpret your posts correctly you also have some worries, at least about some aspects of the latest developments.
You mentioned, that you think you can't tell Brandi to stop now, well, I think nobody said Brandi should stop being a Hotwife completely and once and for all. It was only hinted that it certainly wouldn't be a bad idea for the future, if, every once in a while, there will be some longer periods of time, in which Brandi will take a break from her "Hotwife-activities" and only concentrate on you and her. It shouldn't be a problem to talk with Brandi about something like this. But that you think, at least in this way I have understood you, it could be a problem to talk with Brandi about this, is a rather concerning development, in my opinion. In general, I really believe you should tell Brandi, the person you love, about any potential concern or worry you might have about this all. Not to do it, because you don't want to dampen the general mood, isn't the wisest choice. Like others already have said open communication between you and Brandi is the key. By the way, I'm also relatively sure that also Brandi wants know, if there is something that's concerns you regarding this "Hotwife-fantasy/lifestyle", or whatever you want to call it.

Look, I can comprehend that it doesn't make so much sense to tell Brandi now, when you're at the other end of the world, she should take a longer break from hooking-up with Tre, Chris, R and all the other guys, and let's concentrate only on each other for a while, because you aren't with her anyways at the moment. But I think there really should be a break from hotwifing when you have returned from your extented trip, and not only for the duration of the vacation, you say you and Brandi plan to go on after your return, also for some time after that vacation. And if it's for no other reason than to validate that she "can", like someone other already has formulated.

The following is of course only my opinion. But I personally believe that here many couples engaging in this are making mistake here.
You and Brandi are obviously very much into this "Hotwife-fantasy/lifestyle". I understand it excites and thrills both of you. Generally, that's not a problem, as long as you don't go overboard with this and you and Brandi keep communicating openly with eachother. I guess the question is to find the correct "dosis" or "formula" of Brandi engaging with other men.
Of course, there is no standard answer to this. But in my opinion, this whole "fantasy/lifestyle/game" or whatever you want to call it, should always only be a supplement to your very own sex life you have with your wife, an exciting one, but again, only a supplement, nothing more. Exactly the same applies to any lover of her. This all should never become the core of your or her sex life or the main purpose of it, like it is for Brandi currently, also because of your absence at the moment. The core should always be the "love-making" and sex between you and her.

I know I already said this so please excuse me if I repeat it again. But one the most important things is, in my mind, if you're engaged in such intense affairs, like you and Brandi, I would think that every once in a while, it's absolutely crucial for a married couple to step back and take a break from this kind of "lifestyle" and solely concentrate on eachother for a period of time, I don't know, maybe a few weeks without any interference from or any other a third party.

But like I already said, that's only my opinion.

[brandiandme]

Hmmm. Some good points. No, I don't think this pace is sustainable. At some point she will slow down, but she has hit her stride right now. I agree that us sitting down and coming up with a "plan" is a good, for lack of a better word, plan.

Quick update.  Brandi never cease to amaze me and Mr. Gray was a dud.  Add 3 new guys to her list in the last day. It's hot, but a little hard to believe that since picking up hotwifing 3 1/2 months ago, 24 different men have been inside Brandi, including 21 in the short time I've been gone for this trip. I never in a million years thought I'd be saying that so soon. I would have thought, and been happy with, if she had sex with 2 or 3 men by now.

Last night.  Brandi had an unexpected one night stand.  Yesterday, she worked during the day and was out early.  She planed to stay in with her friend and watch a movie, resting up for Sunday, as she had her dates planned.  Her best friend rallied her and convinced her she needed to go out, so instead of staying in and watching movies they went out to a club.  Brandi loves to dance and is good at it.

Brandi and her friend brought two guys back to our place.  It did not go down as you might think as her friend just started dating someone she really likes and did not want to hook up.  Brandi had met a guy she liked and his friend at the club.  She told her friend, Kate, that she wanted to have sex with the guy she liked and Kate was to be her wingman.  They brought the guys back to smoke and have another drink.  Brandi thought Kate might be down for a foursome of some kind, but she really likes this guy she's dating and did not want to do anything.  Brandi brought the guy she had picked into our bedroom while her friend and the other guy hung out.  I am sure the other guy was disappointed because he was getting nowhere with her Kate. 

The guy was just average, and didn't last long.  Brandi was disappointed.  She did not cum and was still horny and a bit drunk.  When they came out not terribly long after going into our bedroom the other guy and Kate joked about him not lasting long.  The second guy said he could do much better and Brandi asked him if he wanted to prove it.  I can imagine everyone was stunned when Brandi grabbed guy #2 by the hand and pulled him into our bedroom.  This guy did if for her.  He was hung, and lasted, and got her off.  I can't imagine the embarrassment of the first guy when he was a one pump chump and then his friend showed him up.  She took his info and may try to see him again.  I did not think when I challenged Brandi to go pick up a stranger to fuck she'd do it immediately, let alone 2 strangers.  Just a side note but it turns out they were both only 21.  


She slept in, took a shower and ate something just in time for Mr. Gray to come over.  He assembled the table quickly for her and made a move immediately.  Only one way to sum this up.  Disappointing.  Brandi said he was much smaller than he claimed, a selfish lover, and did not last long.  He did not make her cum and could not get it up again.  She couldn't get ride of him fast enough.

She just left for Tre's place (super horny btw) for her afternoon date and will check in with me after.  I won't be able to sleep until she does.  

[gwwkjt]

I am eagerly waiting with a bated breath for the continuation of what happened on Sunday

[Terrycart79]

Hope I’m not the only one but it would have been cool if she finished off the night by fucking her girlfriend too

[afagehi7]

Brandi should consider making porno. She has the looks and the sexual appetite. Might as well make some good money instead of Tre making money at it.

[gwwkjt]

Brandi should consider making porno. She has the looks and the sexual appetite. Might as well make some good money instead of Tre making money at it.

Totally agree. She would be perfect for blacked.com All it takes is a weekend off in CA to get started. Doing porn full time in CA in pro setting would be a way to keep the thrill going, at the same time extracting her from her current environment, while giving you an opportunity to focus on your career overseas for few years. This might actually be safe for her in terms of STD. You might of course lose her completely, but you have that risk even now

One soft way of going forward is contacting Sean Michael on twitter. He is a huge star and he runs "hotwife training" where women wear masks for privacy

We know you said she is against porn, but did you get to the bottom of it why? Whose opinion is is concerned about? Her father's? Maybe it is time to talk about it

[afagehi7]

One soft way of going forward is contacting Sean Michael on twitter. He is a huge star and he runs "hotwife training" where women wear masks for privacy

Damn. That sounds hot. I can't find these videos anywhere. Can you PM me a link or more information?

[gwwkjt]

Here you go, pal. Look up on twitter @seanmichaels42 the info is the pinned tweet. Videos are behind paywall at onlyfans (probably a good thing for beginners)

[Xalar11]

Brandi should consider making porno. She has the looks and the sexual appetite. Might as well make some good money instead of Tre making money at it.

Totally agree. She would be perfect for blacked.com All it takes is a weekend off in CA to get started. Doing porn full time in CA in pro setting would be a way to keep the thrill going, at the same time extracting her from her current environment, while giving you an opportunity to focus on your career overseas for few years. This might actually be safe for her in terms of STD. You might of course lose her completely, but you have that risk even now

One soft way of going forward is contacting Sean Michael on twitter. He is a huge star and he runs "hotwife training" where women wear masks for privacy

We know you said she is against porn, but did you get to the bottom of it why? Whose opinion is is concerned about? Her father's? Maybe it is time to talk about it

Excuse me, but some persons here should maybe tune down a little with their talk how great it would be if Brandi would do porn, while he should concentrate on his career. I'm not sure if the OP really appreciates this. Maybe he feels offended by this and will stop posting. I don't think anybody wants this to happen.

[mooncucky]

Brandi should consider making porno. She has the looks and the sexual appetite. Might as well make some good money instead of Tre making money at it.

Totally agree. She would be perfect for blacked.com All it takes is a weekend off in CA to get started. Doing porn full time in CA in pro setting would be a way to keep the thrill going, at the same time extracting her from her current environment, while giving you an opportunity to focus on your career overseas for few years. This might actually be safe for her in terms of STD. You might of course lose her completely, but you have that risk even now

One soft way of going forward is contacting Sean Michael on twitter. He is a huge star and he runs "hotwife training" where women wear masks for privacy

We know you said she is against porn, but did you get to the bottom of it why? Whose opinion is is concerned about? Her father's? Maybe it is time to talk about it

Excuse me, but some persons here should maybe tune down a little with their talk how great it would be if Brandi would do porn, while he should concentrate on his career. I'm not sure if the OP really appreciates this. Maybe he feels offended by this and will stop posting. I don't think anybody wants this to happen.

Totally agree with Xalar11. They already said they aren’t interested in doing porn.

I believe It’s not very well mannered when you impose things this way.

[gwwkjt]

I am "one of those people". If OP is offended please PM me

It is a forum where things are discussed, opinions aired and different options are explored

[gwwkjt]

I was reading you latest posts again and I changed my mind. Do not pump breaks. Everything is going really well. She does everything according to your wishes, everything you wished for and more (perhaps except for pics and videos). There was a crazy time of her going behind your back and that visit to your home town with fucking the guy in the basement. Since when you caught her cheating she never given you any reason to doubt in her. There never been a single slip up and she has been amazingly exceptional hotwife so far. She loves her new lifestyle

Look below the quote from you on Jan 14:

We narrowed it down to a few basis rules that cannot be broken.  I told her our entire relationship going forward depends on these, especially #1.  1) Honesty.  She tells me everything no matter how bad, dirty, or naughty she thinks it is.  2) Safety First.  Do not have risky sex and condoms are a must unless they have a recent test and she also trusts them.  3) Do not put herself in a situation where she may be abused or raped.  4) If she feels like she is developing feelings for someone she needs to tell me ASAP (she assures me this will not happen but I know nothing is guaranteed). 
 
It was a strange feeling leaving her this time knowing that I have given her the green light to do whatever she wants.  I honestly have no idea what will happen in the few months when I'm gone. She already has plans to hang with Tre tonight. It's been a week and a half since they've been together and I know she could not wait.

She has gone far since you left, but ALL 4 promises seem to be intact. She has done well

What you need to do is to work on yourself, find out what you need, make a plan and be consistent as I previously commented.

Something you can take up with Brandi is how to handle new guys who lie about the size or otherwise inadequate. She had already three such occasions just recently: Joe's colleague, Guy 1 from the club and Mr Grey. She handled Joe’s colleague with exceptional finesse by using him for DP with Joe. She did say to you she is more interested in quality than a number

[MaxCargo]

The following is of course only my opinion. But I personally believe that here many couples engaging in this are making mistake here.
You and Brandi are obviously very much into this "Hotwife-fantasy/lifestyle". I understand it excites and thrills both of you. Generally, that's not a problem, as long as you don't go overboard with this and you and Brandi keep communicating openly with eachother. I guess the question is to find the correct "dosis" or "formula" of Brandi engaging with other men.
Of course, there is no standard answer to this. But in my opinion, this whole "fantasy/lifestyle/game" or whatever you want to call it, should always only be a supplement to your very own sex life you have with your wife, an exciting one, but again, only a supplement, nothing more. Exactly the same applies to any lover of her. This all should never become the core of your or her sex life or the main purpose of it, like it is for Brandi currently, also because of your absence at the moment. The core should always be the "love-making" and sex between you and her.

I know I already said this so please excuse me if I repeat it again. But one the most important things is, in my mind, if you're engaged in such intense affairs, like you and Brandi, I would think that every once in a while, it's absolutely crucial for a married couple to step back and take a break from this kind of "lifestyle" and solely concentrate on eachother for a period of time, I don't know, maybe a few weeks without any interference from or any other a third party.

That are words of wisdom in my opinion Some very good advices

[friskynrisky]

Interesting read.
We have found the rules have changed over the years but the one we have firmly stuck to was to never play at home.
It's our sanctuary and our children's home, we wouldn't want people randomly turning up and knocking at the door...lol

[Cuckoldme]

well I'm extremely disappointed in Mr gray. mostly because he reminded me of me. with that said I'd probably be quick to nut with brandi, also. haha.

She's definitely full throttle and loving it, I can't imagine how hot this is for everyone involved, especially hubby.
her bulls taking all her holes over and over. just incredibly hot. I'm thinking she loves having a hubby with a smaller dick that she's deeply in love with. She probably thinks about him a lot while she's being drilled by big cocks and that's what gets her off. and knowing she's making his dick hard while she's getting drilled is definitely hot too.

Hopefully there's been a couple phone calls during her sessions. As I recall there's probably a app to record for replay pleasures. haha.

[gwwkjt]

I am bit concerned there have not been any updates since Sun Feb 16. OP left it with a cliffhanger and since then nothing

Hopefully it is just his busy work schedule and not a new crisis.

I miss OP's new style of smaller, more real-time updates. It feels more raw compared to earlier posts. I am totally captivated by the story

[Cuckoldme]

I'm sure he's busy. he's written some great posts and I'm sure there time consuming, too.
I can't even begin to think how open Brandi's pussy must be by now. I loved fucked my HF after she's had a big dick inside her. can't hardly feel anything but it's so hot I still cum right away. yummy! freshly fucked pussy

[afagehi7]

I am bit concerned there have not been any updates since Sun Feb 16. OP left it with a cliffhanger and since then nothing

Hopefully it is just his busy work schedule and not a new crisis.

I miss OP's new style of smaller, more real-time updates. It feels more raw compared to earlier posts. I am totally captivated by the story

He's logged in yesterday but no posts. Wondering what is going on too.

[gwwkjt]

It’s been almost 2 weeks, which does not bode well. Whatever has been going on I hope we will get an update, preferably without losing the details.

If this thread gets abandoned at some point perhaps I will write up a post mortem with a summary and my 2 cents. I will refrain from speculations for now

[brandiandme]

Hmm.  Interesting speculation.  I logged on to check in on comments and with the intent to update, but did not have the time or feel like updating.  Other than the big weekend a few weeks ago, it has been kind of slow.  A natural ebb I guess.  I got busy at work and with the lack of happenings didn't get around to posting.  The big news is that we've moved on from R rather quickly.  Not a good guy.  

As for porn.  I like the idea, but only if Brandi could remain anonymous (I told you all I am a total perv).  Nothing is off limits for me.  Porn, prostitution, you name it.  If she did some of the things on camera that she's been doing lately, she'd make some serious money.  I cannot be married to a porn star though.  It would have a negative impact on my career for sure if found out.  It doesn't matter anyway.  Brandi is dead set against it.  She would not want that to follow her around for the rest of her like.  Hence her caution with any pics or vids.  We want a family someday and it would be tough in 15 -20 years having our kids discover "Mom" did porn.  Plus it would make it hard to impossible to start and advance her career if she was forever linked to some porn she did when she was young.      

I might as well start with a continuation of my last post.  When Brandi got to Tre's place in was actually 4 guys, Tre, his roommate, gym friend, and another new friend that gym friend brought along.  After a fucking these guys she went home to take a nap.  It was less porn-starish than some of her gangbangs and the guys mostly took turns on her.  
  
Brandi was a bit tired after staying up late to fuck the two guys the night before, and then having just fucked 5 guys already on the day Sunday.  She went home to take a nap and then shower before R came over.  

Here is where it gets interesting.   After they were done fucking, R said he wanted her to be the entertainment at a going away party for his friend the next weekend and he'd pay her $500.  He said it would be 5-6 guys and he'd want her to dance and strip for them and give sexual favors.  

I know this is where we are going to lose some people, but the thought of Brandi being a paid girl really turns us both on and raises the dirtiness to a whole other level.  At first she thought she might want to do the party for R.  He's very dominant and controlling and it turns her on to be his slut.  After a long discussion about R, we've both agreed it is time to get away from him.  We decided her doing R's party for $500 was too risky a proposition.  Plus she ended up having her period over that weekend anyway.  

Think about it from his perspective.  He knew Chris got to fuck Brandi by trading some weed.  He knows she's a slut and has been fucking many men, and she is submissive to him.  He basically got to fuck her for $100, and since has been doing it for free at his beckon.  He then proposes that she have sex with a group of guys she doesn't know for money, while undoubtedly keeping some profits for himself, and really sells it to her.  She's nothing but a cheap whore to him and he is trying to take advantage.  I don't know if he's a full on pimp, but he's trying to act like one.  

What if she had said no to R when he came to fuck Brandi for the first time.  In his mind he had paid Chris $100 to go fuck this slut.  Would he have raped her?  He's an outsider that she barely knows, and is a rough guy according to Brandi.  I'm not saying he's a rapist and he would have, but this is the exact situation we pledged to avoid.  Also, there have now been a handful of strange men in our house that know where we live. 

While we have talked and fantasized about Brandi trading sex for money, we never thought we would consider it under these circumstances.  As hot as the thought it, these are not the right conditions with R.  I thought the doomsday sayers were being ridiculous when they warned of this shit.  Guess not.  

She got her period a few days after the R incident and we took a bit of a break to think and talk through what our hotwife relationship looks like moving forward.  At first I maybe over reacted and thought I wanted her to stop everything all together.  That did not work out last time I demanded she stop as she ended up cheating.  I kept my emotions in check and now that I've had time to think about it, I'm quite turned on by Brandi's behavior and remind myself that this is what I want.  99% of the time I'm loving her being a slut.  The other 1% of the time is hard.  

Since Brandi had her period she took a break from playing for about a week.  We've talked it over and how important the rules, even though there is only a few, are for her safety and my being okay with all of this.  We decided a short cool off period would be good.  As exciting as it is for both of us, it seemed a good time to at least take a short break from the random new guys and gangbangs.  Things had been building up and Valentines weekend was the explosion.  Think about this.  She fucked Joe and his co worker Thursday night, then fucked R after.  Saturday night she brought home 2 strangers and had sex with both of them.  The next morning she fucked Mr. Gray.  She then fucked 4 guys at Tre's place, including one new guy, and then R at our place after.  That was a total of 10 guys including 5 new guys in a span of 3 days.  

We thought it'd be a good idea to ease back into things and she was eager to have sex with Billy and Tre again, which she did this past week.  She talked with Chris who knew nothing of the developments with R.  She  ended up meeting up with Chris so they could talk things over.  Chris apologized about R and said that R was over the top.  He regretted bringing R to her.  They made up and Brandi had sex with him.  

So, since "easing" back into things and has had sex with Billy solo, Chris solo, and Tre solo this past week.  No gangbangs or new guys in a few weeks now since the R incident. She is planning a date with Billy today and also planning to go to Tre's after work for a threesome with him and his roommate tomorrow. This will be her first group play of any kind in weeks.

She's fucked a total of 22 different men in the 7 weeks I've been gone.  It's been hard to keep track (but I'm doing it).

I can't wait until I'm home and I get to stick my dick in her slutty pussy.  This turns me on.  Especially when I look at her stats.  

Current hotwife stats

Total all time 33 men 18 White and 15 Black
since starting hotwifing on 11/2/19 she's fucked 25 men 15 - Black  10 - White  
10 total gangbangs 
since I left on 1/13/20 - 22 men including 12 new

[XYAlpha]

I think the cooling off time and slowing down is a fantastic plan!
And IMO the vacation should be just the two of you enjoying each other.

Hold your position in her heart and be her husband first. Plenty of time for crazy threesomes and moresomes later. Come home, enjoy your WIFE! Again, my opinion, but she needs to know that she is YOUR wife and you need to show her. Reconnect / reclaim. Reset...

Then share her later!

XY