My Wife's Hotwife History - Will eventually be everything

[afagehi7]

Des,

Not much time for me to write now, but I wanted to respond to your update. I, too, believe her reverting to the one sided sex arrangement was without doubt a clear retaliation for having to stop with Weldon!! And that is a great disappointment to me. Those are not the comments or assertations I expected from a woman of clear thinking as we have come to understand about her. Someone has said that this shows the imbalance of power in your relations ship with Gigi, I find it just the opposite!! I think your justified demand that she stop and her acceptance of that demand shows that you have had significant power in your relationship but have exercised it very sparingly. Personally, I would have countered her retaliation with a modification to allow you some sex with limited women. It is a bit of a push back but she is the one who is pushing the power game. You demanded that she stop with him which was you exerting a power on her, her demand to return to original rules was simply her reasserting HER power back again. I know that my thoughts are of no value in this, but that needs to be a subject of a further discussion. She has been given very WIDE permissions by you to enjoy herself, YOU should now be given some of those permissions as well. Maybe not as frequent as she, but you should not be cut off completely. After all, you could have called for ALL of her extramarital play to end!!! You two need a good talk!!!

Just my 2¢ worth!

Rascal

Thanks for the input, Rascal. I need to think this one over. (But I'm not into blaming her.)

Des

After Weldon perhaps a temporary moratorium on external play would make sense even if only for a month or two in order to recenter and realign. I think it's a small price to pay to get closer and let the storm pass

[Tracey52]

I don’t think that’s going to happen though judging by what Des has said in his last post afagehi7.

[solstice]

My reading of how the episode panned out: Gigi was torn between the pull of new love and not being willing to ruin her marriage, I am sure your decisive reaction was not what she expected, but she did not doubt your unwavering stance and made the call to relay the joint decision.
She is a clear thinking woman, but many hotwives would not have acted as she did. the lifestyle generally makes the woman the dominant partner and the ultimate decision maker.
As to her wish for you no longer to have partners, It could be the recent change of mind to allow you to fuck quite a few of your friends has been a battle of a desire for fairness, coupled with a deeply held unease of you fucking others. this is not an act of Quid pro quo. but reverting to a position she is happier with.

[Des 31]

My reading of how the episode panned out: Gigi was torn between the pull of new love and not being willing to ruin her marriage, I am sure your decisive reaction was not what she expected, but she did not doubt your unwavering stance and made the call to relay the joint decision.
She is a clear thinking woman, but many hotwives would not have acted as she did. the lifestyle generally makes the woman the dominant partner and the ultimate decision maker.
As to her wish for you no longer to have partners, It could be the recent change of mind to allow you to fuck quite a few of your friends has been a battle of a desire for fairness, coupled with a deeply held unease of you fucking others. this is not an act of Quid pro quo. but reverting to a position she is happier with.

In my opinion, Solstice, you have it just right. I'm not disappointed at reverting to our previous position. I was happy with our arrangement then and don't mind the restriction at all. Good insight on your part.

~ Des

[solstice]

The hotwife lifestyle is fluid, and ever evolving, yours's is steadier than most, something to be appreciated.

[rascalnvixen]

Des,

Not much time for me to write now, but I wanted to respond to your update. I, too, believe her reverting to the one sided sex arrangement was without doubt a clear retaliation for having to stop with Weldon!! And that is a great disappointment to me. Those are not the comments or assertations I expected from a woman of clear thinking as we have come to understand about her. Someone has said that this shows the imbalance of power in your relations ship with Gigi, I find it just the opposite!! I think your justified demand that she stop and her acceptance of that demand shows that you have had significant power in your relationship but have exercised it very sparingly. Personally, I would have countered her retaliation with a modification to allow you some sex with limited women. It is a bit of a push back but she is the one who is pushing the power game. You demanded that she stop with him which was you exerting a power on her, her demand to return to original rules was simply her reasserting HER power back again. I know that my thoughts are of no value in this, but that needs to be a subject of a further discussion. She has been given very WIDE permissions by you to enjoy herself, YOU should now be given some of those permissions as well. Maybe not as frequent as she, but you should not be cut off completely. After all, you could have called for ALL of her extramarital play to end!!! You two need a good talk!!!

Just my 2¢ worth!

Rascal

Thanks for the input, Rascal. I need to think this one over. (But I'm not into blaming her.)

Des

My comments were not about blame, Des, they were about her as a strong woman who felt a need to recenter what she FELT was a shift in the marriage. Although Gigi is a strong woman with a good head on her shoulders, she is still a woman who feels things without fully knowing or understanding what triggered those feelings. (as we all do) I didn't mean to indicate that she was vengeful in her returning to the original agreement. Retaliation was probably a poor choice of words in my haste to write quickly. I was trying to say the forced break up with Weldon made her feel things she had not felt before. Yes, you had told her you were not happy with her fucking the psychologist who you knew in college and ASKED her to not play with him, but in this case you commanded her to break off with Weldon. That can cause all kinds of ripples in the psyche for a person who is used to being in charge of her own wishes and wants. I feel sure she didn't want to penalize you for your demand but that she probably felt unsettled by it and didn't even know it was that demand the made her feel that the right place was back to the original deal. I'm sure she didn't see that as a retaliation but just trying to get back to a solid place that was familiar. I hope I did a better job at explaining my view than the last comment by me. She enjoyed your playing with other women, even if she doesn't right now, or she would never have allowed that to happen. Given a little time for things to settle and you guys talk a little more as a COUPLE, I get the feeling she will allow you more privileges with other ladies again, because she enjoyed it as well!!

Rascal

[johnstevens555]

Des,

Not much time for me to write now, but I wanted to respond to your update. I, too, believe her reverting to the one sided sex arrangement was without doubt a clear retaliation for having to stop with Weldon!! And that is a great disappointment to me. Those are not the comments or assertations I expected from a woman of clear thinking as we have come to understand about her. Someone has said that this shows the imbalance of power in your relations ship with Gigi, I find it just the opposite!! I think your justified demand that she stop and her acceptance of that demand shows that you have had significant power in your relationship but have exercised it very sparingly. Personally, I would have countered her retaliation with a modification to allow you some sex with limited women. It is a bit of a push back but she is the one who is pushing the power game. You demanded that she stop with him which was you exerting a power on her, her demand to return to original rules was simply her reasserting HER power back again. I know that my thoughts are of no value in this, but that needs to be a subject of a further discussion. She has been given very WIDE permissions by you to enjoy herself, YOU should now be given some of those permissions as well. Maybe not as frequent as she, but you should not be cut off completely. After all, you could have called for ALL of her extramarital play to end!!! You two need a good talk!!!

Just my 2¢ worth!

Rascal

Thanks for the input, Rascal. I need to think this one over. (But I'm not into blaming her.)

Des

My comments were not about blame, Des, they were about her as a strong woman who felt a need to recenter what she FELT was a shift in the marriage. Although Gigi is a strong woman with a good head on her shoulders, she is still a woman who feels things without fully knowing or understanding what triggered those feelings. (as we all do) I didn't mean to indicate that she was vengeful in her returning to the original agreement. Retaliation was probably a poor choice of words in my haste to write quickly. I was trying to say the forced break up with Weldon made her feel things she had not felt before. Yes, you had told her you were not happy with her fucking the psychologist who you knew in college and ASKED her to not play with him, but in this case you commanded her to break off with Weldon. That can cause all kinds of ripples in the psyche for a person who is used to being in charge of her own wishes and wants. I feel sure she didn't want to penalize you for your demand but that she probably felt unsettled by it and didn't even know it was that demand the made her feel that the right place was back to the original deal. I'm sure she didn't see that as a retaliation but just trying to get back to a solid place that was familiar. I hope I did a better job at explaining my view than the last comment by me. She enjoyed your playing with other women, even if she doesn't right now, or she would never have allowed that to happen. Given a little time for things to settle and you guys talk a little more as a COUPLE, I get the feeling she will allow you more privileges with other ladies again, because she enjoyed it as well!!

Rascal

I thought your were closer to the truth before you softened your stance. IMO it was retaliation pure and simple. That does not make her an evil person just a human with emotions like the rest of us. I believe this post is correct in all the reasons that she retaliated but it was her counter punch. A punch that was meant to reeestablish control of the ring and to cut.

[Des 31]

I thought your were closer to the truth before you softened your stance. IMO it was retaliation pure and simple. That does not make her an evil person just a human with emotions like the rest of us. I believe this post is correct in all the reasons that she retaliated but it was her counter punch. A punch that was meant to reeestablish control of the ring and to cut.

I'm at the office awaiting a couple of other partners to come in for assistance on their project, so I don't have time to go into detail.

But yeah, no problem with any of that or your previous comment. I always look forward to your views as I'm sure you know.

I'm 100% certain she's over Weldon now anyway. Another developing relationship seems to be ongoing over the past three weeks. It hasn't yet resulted in sex, but I think that's a'coming. I'll get around to explaining that tonight if she has nothing planned to keep me out of the computer room. Her thoughts are more on this new guy and little or none about her past with Weldon.

One observer here suggested he believed it likely she and Weldon might again get together anyway. That has happened before when she and a couple others broke up. And going back to years ago when she had her first affair, he and she couldn't resist getting together once or twice more after it ended (my memory is fuzzy now about whether it was just one or two times) to fuck. I didn't mind at the time and I hadn't thought it was necessary they break up anyway after I learned about it. If that should happen this time, I'm understanding about how it could come about. It's a part of, and failing of, human nature. I haven't suggested that to her, but I'm sure she will tell me if she has that urge - and I won't stop her as long as it's just once or twice over a lengthy period between.

~ Des

[afagehi7]

I don’t think that’s going to happen though judging by what Des has said in his last post afagehi7.

I'm not suggesting that the original hotwife arrangement is bad, I'm suggesting that the reason for return (retaliation) is not a good reason to return. Had she asked a different time, I would have thought nothing of it.

[Des 31]

Now that things have calmed down at home, I can get back to offering another issue that has been going on in our lives. My wife said tonight she needs a break from sex with others for a few weeks. What she meant as “a few” is unresolved. Her reason isn’t what some may think.

The following isn’t about sex - at least not yet. It’s just an update but needs some background to make sense of an example of how my wife meets guys. In my opinion, I think her newest attraction is developing rather fast - or maybe I’m just hoping it is.

Three weeks ago, her boss assigned her to give a talk at an educational meeting to be held in the ballroom of a banking customer’s hotel. The hotel’s owners had requested four local institutions to provide speakers for a management seminar for which they placed ads for local companies who wished to enhance their managers’ acumen. Each company’s management personnel paid a fee to attend, and the revenue collected is intended for a local charity. The speakers - like Gigi - received no fee for their services, but the exposure of each presenter presumably benefits their companies.

The attendance was greater than anticipated and almost every available seat was filled. At the lunch break, Gigi sat with several men and women attendees. A man sitting alongside my wife expressed his admiration for Gigi’s achieving her current position as the bank’s “operations director.” The rubric is actually somewhat vague and not common for banking officers. Her official position is VP, but banks have a lot of VPs. The term was designed to exhibit a broad range of responsibilities and offers an assumption of greater authority than all but the bank’s president and comptroller.

She turned aside to respond to the man who gave his name as Caden. He said his position with his company for the past two years has been middle management. He hopes to advance. He asked Gigi how she would handle a troublesome employee working for his department. She inquired what he meant by “troublesome” and a few more details, then offered her solution. The guy liked it and asked if she could occasionally be free for lunch. He added, “You have good ideas.”

My wife handed him a card and said he could phone her if occasional questions like that should again come up. He did, two days later.

I haven’t met Caden. Gigi describes him as 31 years old but one of those rare people whose hair is gray at a young age, blue eyes, and moderately slender. She considers him to be a pleasant conversationalist. They have now met for lunches four times. He phoned her the first of this week to ask if she’s free for lunch with him on Friday.

On their first two luncheons, the relationship had been no more than conversation, geared mostly to his company and what he does on a daily basis. On their third meeting, the conversation took a more personal turn. Although Caden says he’s able to hide his feelings rather well, he admitted what he felt are personal vulnerabilities in dealing with others. He asked Gigi if she had advice on how to enhance his confidence. Having once felt the same way, she told him much of what she has learned. Her principal advice for anyone who wants to be an effective leader is to become the “most normal” person of the group, no matter where he or she happens to be. It’s a learnable process for almost anyone, but for some, not necessarily easy.

That luncheon turned into a two-hour conversation. His admission allowed them to talk about other personal matters and Gigi realized they were becoming friends. She detected a physical attraction to her; and she had already recognized she was similarly attracted to him even before this meeting.

She told me about each encounter with Caden. The night she told me about that day’s meeting, I asked if she wanted to sleep with him. She chuckled and said, “Yeah, it would be nice. But he would need to make the first move.” I opined that, since they’re already talking about “personal” matters, she could tell him I had been pressing her to date another man. I went on, “You don’t have to tell him you want to fuck him. Let him make the decision.”

She grinned and said she would think about it. They will be meeting again tomorrow - but what is different this time is that when phoning her cell phone at the office, he asked if she could meet after work for drinks tomorrow. She told him she would get back to him on that and called me for my opinion; I agreed. She said she would phone me about when to expect her home tomorrow night. I teased her by saying she can expect his dick in her tomorrow. She chuckled and said, “We’ll see.” She then left for shopping at the local supermarket where she is at the moment.

Last week, Gigi said she suspects the casual relationship could become sexual, but that could be some time off. She added she wasn’t yet prepared to take the step I suggested and wished to probe his likely attitude and desire to fuck a married woman.

For all those reasons, she resolved “not to have sex with others for a while.” The longer she does without, the more turned on she becomes. Her manifest exception with anyone but me is her boss. That ongoing union isn’t like any she has had in the past. It’s uncomfortable turning down a boss who for years has been fucking her on demand.

Each time she informs me of an update about their meetings is most often at the kitchen table as it was late this afternoon. As she went on about remarks each has made to the other, the more aroused I became. I urged her to the living room couch. She unzipped my fly and reached for my burgeoning dick as she went on about what he’s like. I pushed her onto her back and fucked her and asked her how much she wanted Caden to fuck her. She muttered, “A lot. He seems to want it too.” Perhaps some comments were embellished for my pleasure, but her mutterings were effective, and I was cumming hard within two minutes.

He hasn’t been obvious about his perceived physical attraction, but their conversations have become more personal, if not yet intimate, each time they meet. Taking into account her flourishing arousal and his reported responses, I think it’s possible either or both might offer subtle hints at tomorrow night’s meeting. She is reluctant to personally instigate it and isn’t sure where, when, or how it might happen. I’m hoping it’s soon and that it’s hot for both. It’s clear to me she wants it.

(Just received a beep to let me know our entry gate just opened, meaning she’s back, so I’m signing off now.)

~ Des

[ericsacto]

Interesting development with Caden. Is she worried that he knows where she works? Also is Caden married?

[Tracey52]

O rest for the wicked. What happened to Gigi saying she was reducing her hotwifing a while ago?

[Scotch98]

Des, great update and sure sounds like to that Caden will have his dick in Gigi very soon. Love these build ups, especially loved you getting so turned on at the Kitchen table when she was talking about their meetings you took her to the couch and fucked her. Awesome...

[johnstevens555]

O rest for the wicked. What happened to Gigi saying she was reducing her hotwifing a while ago?

That was when she was wanting to focus all of her attention on Weldon.

[Mack555]

Des your great at writing .Keeping to the details . I have followed your thread up from it's 1st pages. You are 1st class in journaling your hot Gigi's hookups. I was sorry to hear about the Weldon incident. But you both are a strong couple and will be stronger in the wake out it. You are also a great and encouraging husband to allow you Gigi her freedoms. I wish I was younger and had not divorced my own wife ,if I allowed her freedoms as you have done ,we might have still be together . Keep your posts unedited they are great no matter what length you make them . Love both of you Mack

[Des 31]

My wife had an interesting morning, but I’ll get to that after writing about some catch-up on her more recent adventures. I’ve been busy this past month, having been tasked by other agency partners to represent some local small business owners on several issues; all that worked out fine in the end, so my work responsibilities are back to normal - at least for now.

* * * * *

My wife’s date, as last mentioned with her newest friend, didn’t turn sexual as I had anticipated. Instead, their dinner out together fit more in the social-friendship category as it had in their frequent lunch-time hookups. Gigi had told me he would need to make the first move.

Some “life changes” come about slowly. Until my wife mentioned it, I hadn’t noticed. She has recently become less socially involved with as many as in the past. She and I were sitting a night at our kitchen table and talking, at which time she mentioned she feels she no longer has any close friends. As her position at the bank has become more obvious to banking personnel and others outside the bank, those who know her no longer see her in the same way. Even Beau has become more deferential to her, seeing her not a sexual being but as a superior. Her boss, the bank’s president, has begun leaving major decisions to her discretion and makes virtually no decisions until first conferring with her.

She looked up from her cup of hot tea, and said, “I suppose those are good things in a way, but I’m feeling more alone.” She said that, other than me, she no longer has anyone with who to talk about personal matters but Caden, the guy with who she has been going out. I thought a sexual relationship would soon be developing, but it didn’t come about as soon as I thought.

But finally, they’re now fucking, but how that came about is in some ways unique in her experience.

Caden is said to be a rather ordinary guy in many ways. They talk about his job when out, but she rarely tells him anything about her own work. I can see differences in her now as opposed to the woman I married. She has often said that all she has learned throughout these years have made her better as a banker. And that includes to some degree her sexual experiences. Successful banking requires skills from many other professions and labor. She has taken classes of passing interests throughout the time of our marriage. One of her passing interests, that of which she learned in Private Investigation school, was the last I would have thought could help her at her job. When coming to an important decision or solving problems most others cannot. she uses a PI textbook’s “five W’s.” – Who, What, When, Where, and Why. Evidently, all of that and more has created a distance between her and most others.

And it isn’t just at the bank or the club. At monthly board meetings, the chairwoman and members with new ideas first turn to Gigi for her thoughts. She asks for details, considers the suggestions, and offers her opinion, which is rarely challenged. Her boss privately told her he’s happy they ask her before him; he had always been uncomfortable giving board members opinions that differ from theirs. When the chairwoman visits her boss at the bank, she stops first at my wife’s office and invites her to join them.

Perhaps I shouldn’t have been surprised at any of that. More than one our advertising clients’ CEOs have told me theirs is a lonely job. One confided to me he had worked like a racehorse to get to where he was; but now, he said, “If my competitors who wanted this job could know what it’s actually like, they would be happy I beat them in the race.”

Since that first night out with Caden for dinner, the two have met up once weekly evenings and one or two luncheons whenever possible.

* * * * *

A night some weeks ago, Caden picked her up after work hours at a shopping center where she left her car and rode with him to their usual restaurant. When walking to his car, he said, “You have become my BFF.” She agreed, responding she feels she has no “real” friends. When he dropped her off at her car, she leaned into the driver’s side window to talk another minute or so and pecked him on the cheek, offering a “thank you” for joining her that night.

But - finally - on a follow-up date, they met up again with the same pick-up, drop-off routine. At dinner in a booth distant from other diners, he placed a hand on hers as they talked. She didn’t move her hand away. When later he pulled up to her car in the shopping center’s parking lot, she turned to him and said, “I agree. You’re my BFF too.” She leaned toward him and kissed him again, but this time it was on the lips. Brief, but more intimate. They stared a moment at the other. He reached an arm behind her back, pulled her close, and their lips again met in a long, lingering kiss.

As he pulled away from her, he breathed deeply and said, “I suppose it’s difficult for a man and woman to become friends and it not to turn into something else.” My wife nodded affirmatively in agreement and said, “I know. I realized that last week.” He looked at his watch, then said, “Does your husband expect you home soon?” She said “Maybe not,” pulled her iPhone from her purse, and punched in our home phone number.

I answered. She said, “I have some things to do. I’ll be home late, so don’t wait up.” I suppressed a laugh and said, “Not a problem. Don’t wake me if I’m asleep.” She typically phones me when arriving at a man’s place or when she is on the way home. This call didn’t require that, and I would be asleep when she returned around three-thirty p.m.

I would need to wait until the following evening after work until hearing all that happened after she phoned. I decided to go out for a sub sandwich at the local mall. When parking in the lot outside the diner, I looked up to the night sky and spotted a cloud shaped like a slightly up-curved dick, complete with an out-sized scrotum. I grinned and uttered, “How ironic is that?” When I walked out of the shop to take the sandwich home, the cloud had dissipated into no particular shape I could imagine.

When Gigi had clicked off her iPhone, Caden cast her a questioning glance and asked how it was possible that her husband didn’t ask what she was doing. My wife smiled, saying, “As I mentioned, he knows you and I are out together at times for meals.” She went on to tell him I had suggested we have an open marriage. “I didn’t agree but settled on a contract that it could be ‘half-open.’ If I were to do that, he would need to promise he wouldn’t have the same freedom.”

Caden shook his head in wonderment. “I had no idea,” he said. Gigi didn’t confess her past experiences. Because Caden and she had formed a close relationship as friends, she had anticipated something would develop beyond that. She added, “So he can figure it out. The way I see it is that I’m about to do just what he claims to want.”

Still, as he drove her to his home, he was still processing all she had told him.

My wife has taught me a lot about her feelings toward other men. Most married women find that becoming friends with a man before engaging in sex with him is far different from the passion in casual encounters like being picked up at a bar. It’s more likely to manifest as the ultimate culmination of the relationship. The lust has been growing for a while. When the man’s cock finally enters her married cunt, their emotions reach an apogee of feeling. They’re united as one in a way that just isn’t the same a woman experiences in ongoing marital sex. It’s fucking at its best.

Caden ushered her into his pad, a one-story, two-bedroom, cement-block home four blocks off the main highway. The furnishings are simple but adequate for a bachelor, and all walls are painted in what my wife calls “real estate beige.” “I like it,” she said.

He pulled her close and kissed her deeply. She responded with arms encircling his neck and whispered in his ear, “I assumed this would happen but didn’t know when.” He unzipped the back of her knee-length gray dress and pulled it over her head. She removed her bra and panties as he unbuttoned his open-collar, blue-striped shirt and unbuckled his belt.

Their clothes puddled in lines onto the floor as he led her to his bedroom. Then naked, she urged him onto his back on the single bed. Kneeling alongside him, she stroked his semi-tumescent cock. No words passed between them. She leaned to take his manhood into her mouth. Her head bobbed, slowly at first and increasing in tempo until his dick swelled to its full dimensions. He moaned in response. Gigi sighed, laid on her back, and pulled him atop her.

He pressed her lips to hers as he guided his stick to her cunt. She gasped as his cock slid in but cannot now recall her words to him as he began fucking her. Whatever she said resulted in his pummeling her wildly. Her heels dug into the mattress. She doesn’t think either said a word as his hips thumped against her groin. She uttered Oh’s, Mmm’s, and Uhhh’s. Caden groaned in passion. He urged her about to her knees and my wife eagerly complied to his wish.

She screamed as he fucked her pussy from behind. Her head rotated in response to his rear assault and she cried out, “You fuck so good!”

When she later told me about their first sexual union, I was fucking her madly but didn’t last as long as Caden - maybe six minutes at the most. I wailed, “Ohmigod!” at the moment my sperm spurted into her tunnel. She giggled, saying, “I didn’t finish my story.” But she told me the rest as I was laying alongside her with the feeling my body was nothing more than a rain puddle on our sidewalk.

* * * * *

He was coming about a minute before she screamed in a mind-blowing climax. According to her Mickey Mouse watch, all this lasted about twenty minutes, but she isn’t sure how much of that was in their missionary position. They lay side by side. Caden glanced over to my wife and said, “Are you sure you will have no guilt?”

Gigi grinned and responded, “Not at all. The way I see it is that anyone should be free to do anything they wish that isn’t illegal and hurts no one.”

When he queried, “But you’re denying him the same freedom,” she said, “No, it’s what he wants. He wanted me to have sex with someone else and agreed he wanted that more than him being with another woman. I wanted to be with you. You wanted the same, and this is just what my husband wants. He has the freedom to change his mind, and so do you and I.” Still, Caden couldn’t wrap his head around it, so she invited him to meet me at our home on their next date. She went on to say they could fuck at our home, in our marital bed, the next time. And then, she said, he could better understand.

I’m unsure whether Caden actually looked forward to meeting with me, but he agreed to come to our home the next time they fuck. They set their next date for next Saturday night, September 3. When telling me this, Gigi realized when telling me this she had not suggested the time he should arrive. She will phone him sometime next week and tell him seven p.m. would be best for her.

* * * * *

And then, as of this morning, another probable arrangement is evidently soon to come about. My wife had noticed an ad in our local paper by a masseur seeking new clients. At one time, she was seeing a masseur or masseuse regularly, but circumstances changed and she hasn’t sought another since. She mentioned the ad and told me her intention to contact him for an appointment.

She phoned an evening I was working late and told him weekends work better for her than after-work appointments. He said he typically doesn’t work weekends for the reason he’s studying at those times for chiropractic school but would make an exception for Gigi if she is available on Saturday mornings. She agreed to arrive at nine.

He works from his home. His work area is an upstairs room in a townhouse located at the southern fringe of the downtown business district. She agreed to weekly appointments her first three weeks, then about once a month thereafter. I didn’t anticipate this might turn into a sexual connection; all I then knew about him was what my wife mentioned after her first appointment. She said, “He’s 25 and a rather average guy. I think he’s nice looking.”

Her routine as suggested by the masseur is to shower before leaving home or at his place if she doesn’t, He added that she may wish to shower again at his home to wash away any oils used in the process; he went on, “But that’s your decision.”

On her first rubdown session, her breast and groin were covered by a towel and was a pleasant but ordinary massage. Both were pleasantly conversational throughout the rubdown’s hour. The second week, he asked if she preferred to be “draped or undraped,” meaning covered by a towel or not. She grinned and responded, “I’m not shy. Undraped is always fine with me.”

He began with her feet and worked his way up her body. Although he carefully avoided her groin, she noticed his eyes roaming her body. He wore light cotton, green scrubs like those of medical assistants. As he massaged her hands and arms, she noticed his stalk beginning to form a bulge in his pants but was sure he hadn’t noticed her glance. When the treatment ended an hour later, he offered to leave the room as she dressed. Gigi remarked that wasn’t necessary, reached to her purse, and added a $10 tip for his services. When later narrating this to me, she said, “That’s the thing about a guy that young. It doesn’t take much to get him excited.”

He walked her downstairs to the front door. She thanked him, gave him a hug, a quick peck on the cheek, and said, “See you at nine next Saturday.”

Her third appointment this Saturday morning was golden. The routine was about the same as before until he began massaging a breast. He had not done that on her two prior sessions. Gigi hummed, “Mmmm, feels nice.” Given her green light to proceed, he kneaded both breasts, taking his time and stroking her nipples that were now standing up like spikes. Aroused, she breathed her gratitude and glanced down to see he was again hard as he had been during her previous session. She reached a hand out and slid it down his erection with the back of her hand. She said, “It would be nice if you were nude too.”

With a tremor in his voice, he said, “That seems fair.” He pulled his top over his head and shucked his pants and shorts. His dick popped out like a sword ready for battle. He stood near her head but leaned aside to reach her groin. A finger massaged her clitoris. My wife turned her head aside, grasped his stalk, and took the rigid member into her mouth. Her head bobbed furiously as his hand speedily worked her clit.

He trembled, warning her he was about to cum. His goo spurted into my wife’s throat. She swallowed but continued sucking until she too climaxed. She released his dick and cried out passionately. She looked up at him and said, “Thank you. You just became my newest best friend.” He blushed and said, “I have never done that before with a client.” She asked if it was okay with him if she continued as his “client.” He responded, “I was hoping you would.”

His tip this time was $20, which he protested, but Gigi insisted. As she stood at his front door to leave, she turned to kiss him fully on the lips. “I won’t be able to make it next Saturday, but I’ll see you the second Saturday if you’re free that morning.” He has no plans but suggested she could stop by any evening after she gets off work at the bank. She said she could probably do that and would call him after checking her schedules. She told me this afternoon she will phone him this week and offer to stay overnight next Friday, but she isn’t sure which nights he has classes.

I reminded her Caden is coming to our home that Saturday night, but she shrugged that off. I would have enjoyed some wild sex with her after her morning with the masseur but didn’t mention that to her. I’m assuming she and her massage guy will be fucking Friday night through Saturday morning. Caden’s dick will most likely be in her through Sunday morning. And two guys in just 24 hours doesn’t leave time or energy for a husband fucking her in between those encounters.

That’s okay, though. I told her to be ready to fill me in on those fuckings sometime Sunday. She laughed and said, “You’re going to have a nuclear meltdown on that day.” Actually, that isn't a bad analogy for the way her narratives affect me.

~ Des

[afagehi7]

Adults don't really have close friends. All friendships are transactional and utilitarian... For example, if you run you'll have running friends, stop running they're gone. In your age bracket those with kids are friends taking kids to activities and commensurateing about being a parent. Since you don't have kids those people are now gone. Happened to me too in late 20s Early 30s and then I moved and what friends remained dissolved over a few months to a year.

We have each other, family... And work friends are just that, work friends.

IMO, it's a normal evolution. We're not in high school anymore. It was a bit depressing when I realized that I didn't have friends anymore but was devistating to my wife. My sister also crossed that threshold and it was hard on her as well.

Not saying that no one has close friends in adulthood but it's still usually transactional... BBQ with the kids playing in the pool etc.

Maybe someone else has a different perspective but I think it's normal.

[Des 31]

Adults don't really have close friends. All friendships are transactional and utilitarian... For example, if you run you'll have running friends, stop running they're gone. In your age bracket, those with kids are friends taking kids to activities and commensurate about being a parent. Since you don't have kids those people are now gone. Happened to me too in late 20s Early 30s and then I moved and what friends remained dissolved over a few months to a year.

We have each other, family... And work friends are just that, work friends. IMO, it's a normal evolution. We're not in high school anymore. It was a bit depressing when I realized that I didn't have friends anymore but was devastating to my wife. My sister also crossed that threshold and it was hard on her as well.

Not saying that no one has close friends in adulthood but it's still usually transactional... BBQ with the kids playing in the pool etc. Maybe someone else has a different perspective but I think it's normal.

That makes sense to me.

[Mack555]

Des and Gigi , I'm glad your back to posting . The last two hookups sounded like on fire hot. Keep posting Des and Gigi keep going the way you are . Hot On Fire! Hope the best for both of you. Mack

[afagehi7]

Adults don't really have close friends. All friendships are transactional and utilitarian... For example, if you run you'll have running friends, stop running they're gone. In your age bracket, those with kids are friends taking kids to activities and commensurate about being a parent. Since you don't have kids those people are now gone. Happened to me too in late 20s Early 30s and then I moved and what friends remained dissolved over a few months to a year.

We have each other, family... And work friends are just that, work friends. IMO, it's a normal evolution. We're not in high school anymore. It was a bit depressing when I realized that I didn't have friends anymore but was devastating to my wife. My sister also crossed that threshold and it was hard on her as well.

Not saying that no one has close friends in adulthood but it's still usually transactional... BBQ with the kids playing in the pool etc. Maybe someone else has a different perspective but I think it's normal.

That makes sense to me.

Not having kids is the big separation. You don't want to hang out with others snotty kids and listen to them tell you how special little Jonny and Sally snotwad are and most people in your age group have kids .. dinks are few and far between (dual income no kids dink).

[rascalnvixen]

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just spent over 30 minutes writing a response to your update Des, only to have the damned board tell me to log in when I tried to post it and then I lost the whole posting!!!! I'm too fucking tired to rewrite my thoughts now as I need sleep. Just wanted to let you know that I saw your update and I find value in A7's comments about our friends. More later if I have the chance.

Rascal

[Tracey52]

Glad you have time to write again Des. Interesting developments and also Gigi’s thoughts regarding friends. I agree to some degree with comments above but you can still have friends you can have deep and meaningfuls too especially women do I think.

While we only get a blinkered view of your life, Gigi’s hobbies and recreational activities do make it more difficult for her to socialise with women, especially since you have no children. That precludes you from many activities where you would meet friends. Hobbies like shooting, PI investigations, astronomy, martial arts, bowling, golf especially when she seems only to do it with men make it difficult. As for male confidants, she seems to end up in bed with them all. Complicates things as you recently found out.

My closest friends are from my senior school and especially University days. But I still live in the same state unlike you and Gigi. Samantha and Sherry could be those friends but I expect there is strain on Gigi becoming close to them because she no longer wants you to sleep with them.

Finally regarding the new masseuse, I thought Gigi already had a masseuse whom gave her special attention. These last couple of guys seem so ordinary also. It’s like Gigi is avoiding another Weldon or can’t she help herself but end up in bed with any male she spends considerable time with? Maybe some self reflection is in order. Perhaps if Chase was kept in the friend zone, he could have become a close friend?

[Des 31]

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just spent over 30 minutes writing a response to your update Des, only to have the damned board tell me to log in when I tried to post it and then I lost the whole posting!!!! I'm too fucking tired to rewrite my thoughts now as I need sleep. Just wanted to let you know that I saw your update and I find value in A7's comments about our friends. More later if I have the chance.

Rascal

I get it - That's also happened to me at times here and elsewhere. That part about the falling away of my wife's former friends shouldn't have been a surprise to me. I have met with many CEOs in my two careers as a reporter and ad man. More than one has told me it's the loneliest job in the world. A few months ago, another went on to remark how hard the rise up the ladder had been. His competitors were many, but he now thinks if they knew what the "prize" was like, none would have wanted it. There's something about the image that causes those around them to maintain a distance.

A7, though, and you are right about the transactional relationships in all our lives. We know a few who still have the same best-friends from high school as is true with Tracey. That's a rare treasure. Gigi says that had we never moved from her hometown to here, that would probably still be true for her. But we're still pleased our lives have worked out in the way it has.

Thanks to all for writing.

~ Des

Added on a minute later: The mention of Sherry and Beau reminded me of an update I could add. The two are considering buying some sort of boat but haven't yet made up their minds about the size or type. So Sherry signed up for marine mechanics classes two nights each week and occasional Saturday mornings. She ranks as a good mechanic on cars and airliners and tells us the principles of mechanics are all the same, but with several practical differences. That puts her at the top of her class in the marine mechanics' classes and she says she's learning a lot. If and when they get around to purchasing a boat, we're invited to join them whenever we want.

We still socialize with them at our church and most often for lunch after that but, otherwise, it isn't the same as before.

[rascalnvixen]

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just spent over 30 minutes writing a response to your update Des, only to have the damned board tell me to log in when I tried to post it and then I lost the whole posting!!!! I'm too fucking tired to rewrite my thoughts now as I need sleep. Just wanted to let you know that I saw your update and I find value in A7's comments about our friends. More later if I have the chance.

Rascal

I get it - That's also happened to me at times here and elsewhere. That part about the falling away of my wife's former friends shouldn't have been a surprise to me. I have met with many CEOs in my two careers as a reporter and ad man. More than one has told me it's the loneliest job in the world. A few months ago, another went on to remark how hard the rise up the ladder had been. His competitors were many, but he now thinks if they knew what the "prize" was like, none would have wanted it. There's something about the image that causes those around them to maintain a distance.

A7, though, and you are right about the transactional relationships in all our lives. We know a few who still have the same best-friends from high school as is true with Tracey. That's a rare treasure. Gigi says that had we never moved from her hometown to here, that would probably still be true for her. But we're still pleased our lives have worked out in the way it has.

Thanks to all for writing.

~ Des

Added on a minute later: The mention of Sherry and Beau reminded me of an update I could add. The two are considering buying some sort of boat but haven't yet made up their minds about the size or type. So Sherry signed up for marine mechanics classes two nights each week and occasional Saturday mornings. She ranks as a good mechanic on cars and airliners and tells us the principles of mechanics are all the same, but with several practical differences. That puts her at the top of her class in the marine mechanics' classes and she says she's learning a lot. If and when they get around to purchasing a boat, we're invited to join them whenever we want.

We still socialize with them at our church and most often for lunch after that but, otherwise, it isn't the same as before.

Des and All,

I apologize for my frustrated venting earlier this morning. I was very tired and was really pissed off at that failure to post. I intended to delete that post when I awoke today but since it has been quoted there is no real reason to do so. The gist of my failed comment was that although A7's comment is very true, there are in my circle a hand full of what I do consider TRUE friends, two of which are women, that have been close friends and even one lady who was a lover who was a fantastic lover that would have made a donkey wish he had a larger dick!! These are the people you KNOW you can count on when you need them for anything, legal, at the drop of the hat!! These friendships have lasted decades, 30, 40 and even 50 years or more. Vixen is traveling with her BFF girl friend this week end and could not attend the social function we were invited to at the local baseball team with dinner and drinks in the VIP area. She suggested I call one of my oldest dear friends who was my actual first date in high school and to whom I introduced her to my best friend at the time and they got married!!! Unfortunately, she is now widowed and we occasionally go to lunch or dinner together. (no she was never a lover!) So true friends do exist in our lives but sometimes it is hard to find the good ones in a forest of others in our lives.

Gigi, I think, is simply growing into her maturity and contemplating her place and what she wants going forward as your wife and as a very visible corporate officer who is now having that realization that people see her differently than they did 5 or 10 years ago. There are probably some biological changes going on within her as she now moves into her mid and later 30s. It is totally normal for her to start to see things differently, as I am sure you, Des, are seeing things differently than you did 10 years ago. Will she have a dramatic change in her life??? I don't think that is the case but I do think she will likely begin the process of protecting her private life and who she allows to join it. I believe the friends she will play with now will be more like Martin, guys who have a good quality of life about them and who she can respect more as a person in her circle of friends than guys who look HOT and have awesome dicks and can fuck her silly. That is not to say that she hasn't had men she's fucked that don't fit that description (the astronomy professor as an example) but that her men now might be more about the brain than the dick, if you know what I mean. That may also provide some new thoughts for you, Des, as she finds men that are more suitable on a personal level than just a FB and which may make you consider your arrangement with her and some possible changes that would allow you more comfort with her lifestyle should you have concerns as a new Gigi emerges. Of course all of this is purely speculation on my part as a result of some of my life experiences. No matter what, I hope you and Gigi will continue to love and respect each other as much as you have in the past. I'm pretty sure that will happen.

That is most of the thoughts that got lost at 0200 this morning!!!

Rascal


Rascal

[anonymister1948]

Des and All,



Gigi, I think, is simply growing into her maturity and contemplating her place and what she wants going forward as your wife and as a very visible corporate officer who is now having that realization that people see her differently than they did 5 or 10 years ago. There are probably some biological changes going on within her as she now moves into her mid and later 30s. It is totally normal for her to start to see things differently, as I am sure you, Des, are seeing things differently than you did 10 years ago. Will she have a dramatic change in her life??? I don't think that is the case but I do think she will likely begin the process of protecting her private life and who she allows to join it. I believe the friends she will play with now will be more like Martin, guys who have a good quality of life about them and who she can respect more as a person in her circle of friends than guys who look HOT and have awesome dicks and can fuck her silly. That is not to say that she hasn't had men she's fucked that don't fit that description (the astronomy professor as an example) but that her men now might be more about the brain than the dick, if you know what I mean. That may also provide some new thoughts for you, Des, as she finds men that are more suitable on a personal level than just a FB and which may make you consider your arrangement with her and some possible changes that would allow you more comfort with her lifestyle should you have concerns as a new Gigi emerges. Of course all of this is purely speculation on my part as a result of some of my life experiences. No matter what, I hope you and Gigi will continue to love and respect each other as much as you have in the past. I'm pretty sure that will happen.

That is most of the thoughts that got lost at 0200 this morning!!!

Rascal


Rascal

Very well said. I have detected a difference in the narrative about Gigi's lovers. They're more Poly? I'm not sure but there has clearly been a difference over the past couple of months. The last one surely was and this one, maybe also. And Poly people can have significant relationships with a couple of people, STILL, fuck purely for fuck's sake. Like the masseuse.