Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:09 am

superb101 wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:22 am
Its kind of like starting into a threesome but not really! LOL
I was thinking of it because it does at least three things:

1) She has told him that I'm okay with her having fun with another man "what happens in [enter name of US State here] stay in [State]" etc. If I were the guy, I'd accept that as a green light from the woman, but not believe it on its face. He and I have met and therefore it's not as much of a stretch for him and me to have a conversation set up by SW.

2) I could then allay any concerns about my approval, and also give him some coaching on how to best "get in" with SW.

3) This sets up a path to a possible threesome, since I'm no longer an unknown.

Of course, the risk of his freaking out is present, and I do agree is too great to chance it (at least at this point).

slenderfish

Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:34 am

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In your post you say that SW was withholding information from him about Mr S. I think it's obvious that the real secret she is keeping is Mr. B.
I would bet the ranch that she is having an affair with him has been for a long time and her girlfriends know it. Her heating things up with Mr. S is a payback to B for the woman he's screwing. There is no way any woman happens to invite a man over to have drinks with her girlfriends then keeps him for the night unless she's fucking him. This is after they have had incidents where her tit just happened to pop out of her bra.
Why keep that a secret from the OP? Assuming the story is real, because she looked at B as a long term investment to replace the OP but wants his divorce to be finalized before any public announcement is made. In the meantime, it could destroy the business relationship between the OP and B. Also, it's more fun this way.
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I'm one to try and consider all possible outcomes (at least all that I can conceptualize) in advance and attach risk values to each. I've thought about this path and outcome a number of times, and as time goes along it diminishes as a possibility. There is no energy between SW and Mr. B at this point, and no contact. Literally.

So I think the reality is that Mr. B was getting this energy from SW and was thinking he was leading to an affair with her. He was probably getting some energy from me on the matter, to be honest. I was expecting this to become an affair, her first HW affair that she then admits, etc. when pressed and when shown the evidence. Nope. What happened is that when SW realized (after I pointed it out) she had been leading him on for so long, and was called on it after she told him (on her own volition) no physical sex contact or even kissing allowed, she snapped back all attentions and energy. He temporarily settled on Ms. R for any variety of reasons, and then fully disappeared from SW's radar.

And partially from my radar, with respect to social matters having involving SW. He and I remain social, and the business element continues.

Of course, he may reappear when she's ready. I do hold out hope that the two of them may get together one day, if she embraces being a Hotwife at some point and then decides that he previously earned it and will earn it on a go-forward basis. I'm not concerned about her leaving for him. His face is not handsome in the way she prefers (e.g. not her "type" in that way). He has a lot of marriage baggage (more than five kids!), etc.

All I have now is the ongoing business relationship, which I hope does not suffer because of the above. But of course there is an impact. Just gotta move through it. I remain sufficiently confident that it's gonna be fine.

I respect and admire your narrative on this element. Very dramatic, also adds just the right edge of risk in the sense of "what if?" because everything I said above could also be consistent with the two of them really laying low until the smoke clears. If they did it (I'll allow for the sake of my analysis 45% odds that they did/55% they didn't though if pressed I'd probably not go above 25% that they did), I'll either (a) never know (80%) or (b) find out if/when SW becomes a hotwife and is more willing to come clean (15%), or (c) find out if/when she leaves me for him (5%) and I'm proven to be the schmuck. So my handicapping yields (45% times 5%) = 2.25% that version (c) comes to pass. I can and will live with these odds. As I said above, in this paragraph, just the right edge of risk of unknown.

It's another subject for another time, but the concept of "mystery" in an ongoing long-term relationship (from a couples psychology standpoint) is an important element to keep the relationship feeling fresh. I think the above, and this whole adventure, more than covers the mystery element for us.

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by tojanman » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:33 pm

Is Mrs SF on her was to Mr S right now? Or does she leave tomorrow? Don’t know why I’m so excited since it’s not my wife but I’m invested vicariously through you and your excitement. Her face and her peach are prepped for Mr S and hopefully he will be able to deliver a fantastic experience to her in return!

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by afagehi7 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:54 pm

slenderfish wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:34 am
In your post you say that SW was withholding information from him about Mr S. I think it's obvious that the real secret she is keeping is Mr. B.
I would bet the ranch that she is having an affair with him has been for a long time and her girlfriends know it. Her heating things up with Mr. S is a payback to B for the woman he's screwing. There is no way any woman happens to invite a man over to have drinks with her girlfriends then keeps him for the night unless she's fucking him. This is after they have had incidents where her tit just happened to pop out of her bra.
Why keep that a secret from the OP? Assuming the story is real, because she looked at B as a long term investment to replace the OP but wants his divorce to be finalized before any public announcement is made. In the meantime, it could destroy the business relationship between the OP and B. Also, it's more fun this way.
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I'm one to try and consider all possible outcomes (at least all that I can conceptualize) in advance and attach risk values to each. I've thought about this path and outcome a number of times, and as time goes along it diminishes as a possibility. There is no energy between SW and Mr. B at this point, and no contact. Literally.

So I think the reality is that Mr. B was getting this energy from SW and was thinking he was leading to an affair with her. He was probably getting some energy from me on the matter, to be honest. I was expecting this to become an affair, her first HW affair that she then admits, etc. when pressed and when shown the evidence. Nope. What happened is that when SW realized (after I pointed it out) she had been leading him on for so long, and was called on it after she told him (on her own volition) no physical sex contact or even kissing allowed, she snapped back all attentions and energy. He temporarily settled on Ms. R for any variety of reasons, and then fully disappeared from SW's radar.

And partially from my radar, with respect to social matters having involving SW. He and I remain social, and the business element continues.

Of course, he may reappear when she's ready. I do hold out hope that the two of them may get together one day, if she embraces being a Hotwife at some point and then decides that he previously earned it and will earn it on a go-forward basis. I'm not concerned about her leaving for him. His face is not handsome in the way she prefers (e.g. not her "type" in that way). He has a lot of marriage baggage (more than five kids!), etc.

All I have now is the ongoing business relationship, which I hope does not suffer because of the above. But of course there is an impact. Just gotta move through it. I remain sufficiently confident that it's gonna be fine.

I respect and admire your narrative on this element. Very dramatic, also adds just the right edge of risk in the sense of "what if?" because everything I said above could also be consistent with the two of them really laying low until the smoke clears. If they did it (I'll allow for the sake of my analysis 45% odds that they did/55% they didn't though if pressed I'd probably not go above 25% that they did), I'll either (a) never know (80%) or (b) find out if/when SW becomes a hotwife and is more willing to come clean (15%), or (c) find out if/when she leaves me for him (5%) and I'm proven to be the schmuck. So my handicapping yields (45% times 5%) = 2.25% that version (c) comes to pass. I can and will live with these odds. As I said above, in this paragraph, just the right edge of risk of unknown.

It's another subject for another time, but the concept of "mystery" in an ongoing long-term relationship (from a couples psychology standpoint) is an important element to keep the relationship feeling fresh. I think the above, and this whole adventure, more than covers the mystery element for us.
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Somebody has studied corporate finance...

slenderfish

Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:08 pm

tojanman wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:33 pm
Is Mrs SF on her was to Mr S right now? Or does she leave tomorrow? Don’t know why I’m so excited since it’s not my wife but I’m invested vicariously through you and your excitement. Her face and her peach are prepped for Mr S and hopefully he will be able to deliver a fantastic experience to her in return!
Glad to have excited comrades. She leaves tomorrow. I checked her in for the airline, got her the seat she prefers, and printed the boarding pass. This was my excuse to intrude on her preparing her wardrobe, etc. and I got some images that I'll post in the Hotties section in a short bit.

I am also excited, and I learned from the last time (September) that it's a best for me to keep myself busy and motivated with projects, etc. I have a lot of computer-based work projects to complete for the balance of this week during the day. I also ordered a new stud and joist drill with clutch, etc. from Amazon (it arrived today), stocked up on Sunday from Home Depot some romex and electrical conduit also lumber and also 2" pvc x 10 ft and connectors, and stopped by the local hardware store today to pick up some additional items (hole saws, etc.). I'm project ready for several home improvement projects for the nights and weekend. Also planning a substantial road bike ride for Saturday morning.

slenderfish

Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:12 pm

And I'll also be spending time writing and posting updates. That's budgeted into the time mix.

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by Long Lurker 34 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:32 pm

I hope you can keep focused on, what sounds like quite the home electrical project.

I'm a Sparky, so I want to know as much about your project as Mrs SF's adventures.

slenderfish

Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:22 pm

Long Lurker 34 wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:32 pm
I hope you can keep focused on, what sounds like quite the home electrical project.

I'm a Sparky, so I want to know as much about your project as Mrs SF's adventures.
1) Routing electrical to (new) exterior outlet on the wall to power "smart" auto sprinkler controller. Prior exterior outlet was in the wall but was eliminated when a 4x8 post went inside the wall at that spot. Cutting into drywall from interior to complete this effort, drilling with hole saw from exterior stucco and through water shield, using 1/2 inch gray pvc through wall into exterior outlet to keep water from getting into the box. Will use copious amounts of silicone sealant.

2) Re-routing 2-inch black PVC pipe from rooftop deck drain after the old route was eliminated with remodel, and reconnecting downstream. Using 3 5/8" hole saw for joists. Will use the new professional-grade drill that arrived today. My old right-angle drill was fine for small holes in framing, for running ethenet cable, but not up for this heavy job (the 3 5/8" holes in the joists) and the gears got scrambled (e.g ruined).

3) Pulling down remaining old drywall from ceiling and walls in remodeled "great room" to prepare for new drywall installation later.

4) I may run some 1/2" copper pipe up a the same wall as (1) above (while it's open and exposed) to the middle floor and out through the wall (using same hole saw as (1) above), drilling holes in the framing along the way, and then sweat soldering the joints and installing a bib faucet up on the top floor. This will replace a faucet that was eliminated on the other side of the middle-level deck as part of our remodel. Need this faucet for water to hose down that deck from time to time and to clean the new glass deck railing that will be installed.

5) Also completing final layer of thinset in downstairs bathroom and laundry room where the ceiling was broken open in order to accommodate new joist hangers installed in the floor above. Previously repaired the drywall and taped it, put down the first layer of compound, etc. Then sanding to prepare for base coat of paint.

I probably will not have time to complete all of these, but this is my hit list for now.

whenwillshe

Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by whenwillshe » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:54 am

Your list sounds a lot like mine. They just keep growing longer too.....
If you haven't worked with pex and sharkbites, you might wanna try. I will never solder copper again!

slenderfish

Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:03 am

whenwillshe wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:54 am
Your list sounds a lot like mine. They just keep growing longer too.....
If you haven't worked with pex and sharkbites, you might wanna try. I will never solder copper again!
I may move over to those solutions but probably not this time, it's an easy run very accessible etc.

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Unread post by Mark K » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:58 am

slenderfish wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:03 am
whenwillshe wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:54 am
Your list sounds a lot like mine. They just keep growing longer too.....
If you haven't worked with pex and sharkbites, you might wanna try. I will never solder copper again!
I may move over to those solutions but probably not this time, it's an easy run very accessible etc.
You know how to sweat copper. Bravo. A disappearing skill set. We are all here to keep you company this week/weekend too. haha.

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by coastalkid » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:08 am

I hadn't realized the home improvement aspect to the lifestyle. There is an inordinate amount of "down" time for the HWH/cuck (insert as needed). It only makes sense that a "skilled" husband will naturally distract himself with productivity to occupy that time!
Hope is not a strategy but it's still good to have! Especially if you don't have a strategy!
I get my denial the old fashion way, I married vanilla!

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:03 pm

So I delivered her to the airport this morning and received a text that she arrived safely. She will spend a day at her sister's house and then transfer to the hotel beginning Thursday night. I don't expect much of note until we land on the weekend.

It'll be interesting to see if Mr. S will be out of town as he originally noted, or if his plans have changed and they end up going out on Fri or Sat. At this point Sun evening is set aside for them. Her flight back departs early afternoon on Monday.

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Unread post by whenwillshe » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:36 pm

slenderfish wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:03 am
whenwillshe wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:54 am
Your list sounds a lot like mine. They just keep growing longer too.....
If you haven't worked with pex and sharkbites, you might wanna try. I will never solder copper again!
I may move over to those solutions but probably not this time, it's an easy run very accessible etc.
You know what they say, "Once you go Pex, you never go back"

slenderfish

Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:10 am

When we arrived at the airport we were at the curb and I helped pull the luggage and set it up for her to roll it inside to bag drop, etc. She was digging through her handbag for her little zipper wallet that holds her identification and credit cards and just couldn't locate it right away. She put her handbag on top of one of the roller luggage items and kept digging, and suddenly about 10 pairs of panties spilled out and started falling to the concrete sidewalk. I grabbed them and had a quick look and smile. She shyly noted that as she was running out of the house she realized had not packed any panties and just threw a pile of them in her handbag.

I told her I really liked the black satin-looking one with the red hearts, that she might consider wearing on her special date.

She smiled and located the identification and credit cards zipper clutch, and then smashed everything back into her bag, gave me a kiss and off she went!

afagehi7

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Unread post by afagehi7 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:55 am

slenderfish wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:10 am
When we arrived at the airport we were at the curb and I helped pull the luggage and set it up for her to roll it inside to bag drop, etc. She was digging through her handbag for her little zipper wallet that holds her identification and credit cards and just couldn't locate it right away. She put her handbag on top of one of the roller luggage items and kept digging, and suddenly about 10 pairs of panties spilled out and started falling to the concrete sidewalk. I grabbed them and had a quick look and smile. She shyly noted that as she was running out of the house she realized had not packed any panties and just threw a pile of them in her handbag.

I told her I really liked the black satin-looking one with the red hearts, that she might consider wearing on her special date.

She smiled and located the identification and credit cards zipper clutch, and then smashed everything back into her bag, gave me a kiss and off she went!
You should have counted so you know if any souvenirs are left behind.

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by coastalkid » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:23 pm

afagehi7 wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:55 am
You should have counted so you know if any souvenirs are left behind.
I love your unquenchable thirst for the thrill! You find it in the most innocuous things! I dig that about you, you are an incurable "horn dog" like I am in my heart!
Hope is not a strategy but it's still good to have! Especially if you don't have a strategy!
I get my denial the old fashion way, I married vanilla!

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by afagehi7 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:45 pm

coastalkid wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:23 pm
afagehi7 wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:55 am
You should have counted so you know if any souvenirs are left behind.
I love your unquenchable thirst for the thrill! You find it in the most innocuous things! I dig that about you, you are an incurable "horn dog" like I am in my heart!
I think we're both living vicariously through fish.hahshshs

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by CarstonMathers » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:06 pm

slenderfish wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:10 am
When we arrived at the airport we were at the curb and I helped pull the luggage and set it up for her to roll it inside to bag drop, etc. She was digging through her handbag for her little zipper wallet that holds her identification and credit cards and just couldn't locate it right away. She put her handbag on top of one of the roller luggage items and kept digging, and suddenly about 10 pairs of panties spilled out and started falling to the concrete sidewalk. I grabbed them and had a quick look and smile. She shyly noted that as she was running out of the house she realized had not packed any panties and just threw a pile of them in her handbag.

I told her I really liked the black satin-looking one with the red hearts, that she might consider wearing on her special date.

She smiled and located the identification and credit cards zipper clutch, and then smashed everything back into her bag, gave me a kiss and off she went!
This sounds like a scene out of a rom-com. Pretty adorable actually.

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by CarstonMathers » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:09 pm

slenderfish wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:08 pm
I also ordered a new stud and joist drill with clutch, etc.
Of all the things you've posted this might be the hottest.

I hope your ride Saturday is good. Although as one cyclist to another, we both know that boners on rides are super annoying. Hopefully your mind won't wander too much.

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by BallSpanking » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:27 pm

That sounds about right ... Nine pairs of shoes ... 🤔 Ten pairs of panties ...
Schwiiiiing ... Thud! (Projectile erection becomes vicious uppercut KO!)

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by CanadianHardwood4Ass » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:11 pm

slenderfish wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:10 pm
INTROSPECTION/ANALYSIS/COMMENTARY/EDITORIAL pause:

[something different, I try to detach myself sometimes and take a look from broader perspective, it's just my way]

A bit of analysis here. I continue to be reminded of this recurring situation where I've been consistent and clear with her that I support and encourage her taking a boyfriend or a one-nighter with a man of her choice. This has been my mantra for some years now. I understood from the outset that she would/could be uncertain of actually trusting this, since it is so unusual. Not trusting this might be the reason she would foray a bit into the territory but then retreat and try to cover her tracks, as opposed to being straightforward with herself and with me. To trust herself and to trust me.

This is why, after most recent grand cycle of Mr. B, I challenged her to take the trust up a level, to trust me with her honesty, to trust that I will be honest with her, to trust when I assure her I will love and adore her even more if she decides to take the Hotwife plunge, etc. It was this conversation that spurred her to finally assert she is ready to give it a try and that has been converted into the present trip and starting up with Mr. S.

I also have to reflect that there was something unusual about her that attracted me so powerfully to her at the outset, and which became stronger over the following years. I do believe at some deep level I saw a potential Hotwife in her, based on so many different aspects of her looks, her personality, how she carries herself, how she catches the attention of men, etc. She can at some times be quite submissive, and I believe at some level she wishes to be submissive, but her normal mode is dominant (although subtle on both of these). I've been with her long enough to have observed and confirmed these in my mind. She of course wishes I was more dominant, more of the time, but I'm really more comfortable in the laid back role, letting and having her take the lead and the control. It does express in our sex; I'd prefer her to be on top but she'd prefer me to be on top.

In sex she wants to be enveloped by the man, and missionary position is her favorite for that. The man is on top, covering just about all of her body, and she disappears under him while he is inside of her, he becomes part of her, the protective outer shell. She is in the warm and safe cocoon.
Really well explained analysis of her desire to be submissive and surrounded by you while in the missionary position!

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Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by Lensman2000 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:15 pm

The airport scene with the underwear falling out of her handbag would certainly be amusing to witness, but also seems premeditated. First: Under the circumstances, leading up to the trip she surely gave some thought to the panties she was taking - some probably newly purchased. Second: if you're racing out the door to get to the airport and realized you hadn't packed your toothbrush, socks, whatever; wouldn't you just partially unzip your suitcase and throw it in?

I doubt her intent was to titillate a TSA screener. Was she teasing you or sending you some sort of message with the panty slip-up?

slenderfish

Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:58 am

CarstonMathers wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:09 pm
slenderfish wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:08 pm
I also ordered a new stud and joist drill with clutch, etc.
Of all the things you've posted this might be the hottest.

I hope your ride Saturday is good. Although as one cyclist to another, we both know that boners on rides are super annoying. Hopefully your mind won't wander too much.
I laughed out loud on this one.

slenderfish

Re: Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

Unread post by slenderfish » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:00 am

Lensman2000 wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:15 pm
The airport scene with the underwear falling out of her handbag would certainly be amusing to witness, but also seems premeditated. First: Under the circumstances, leading up to the trip she surely gave some thought to the panties she was taking - some probably newly purchased. Second: if you're racing out the door to get to the airport and realized you hadn't packed your toothbrush, socks, whatever; wouldn't you just partially unzip your suitcase and throw it in?

I doubt her intent was to titillate a TSA screener. Was she teasing you or sending you some sort of message with the panty slip-up?
Never thought of it this way. I don't know her as being that clever, but we are in new times for us. I like it, will chew on it.

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