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by bubbajack » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:32 pm
I am concerned about the recent developments in the Jane/David household.
The facts seem to be that Jane was very very horny and contacted Sam, the "self-described bull", with whom her previous contacts had made her feel, in her words "over her head" and in David's description at one time had gone "too far". A review of the stories from those episodes will confirm why that might be so. Extremely, extremely hot.
On Monday she asked Sam to her house for the first time, apparently with no prior notice either to David or to Sam (who just happened to be available) and without having made prior arrangements for toddler-sitting (although that was handled in time so we can presume the event would not have proceeded if that had not worked out.) Evidently her desire to get black bull-fucked NOW was very intense!
Predictably, Sam required that she perform displays and behaviors for him which fall into the "black cock slut" category. She complied fully (and very appealingly - I loved the answer-the-door-naked-in-high-heels touch!) with his demands, notwithstanding that (or because?) it made her feel "out of control." What he asked her to do and what she did for him and what they did together would not be out of place on any of the myriad "white wife/black bull" porn sites that are copiously represented around the web (and, I have to say, are some of my personal favorites!).
I would have a hard time believing that what happened between them was anything but what Jane wanted, intended, and thoroughly enjoyed. And, as she said, she told Sam only that she is "not sure" she wouldn't do it some more with him when he asked. Because Sam is absolutely a bull, he will, if given the chance, almost certainly be pushing further to dominate her in the entirely predictable ways that she finds both scary and enormously exciting.
When it was over, she got right on line and told us all about it in delicious detail and said she is "spent" in, I infer, a very good way. It was a stupendous post!
Then David comes home and posts, "in answer to a question" posted earlier by someone else on the thread, expressing "shock". He discloses that the couple are arguing - Jane calls it a "slight disagreement". She speaks equivocally about a "boundary" that "maybe" she crossed. There has been silence since.
As Mr. Bear very sanely suggests, OK, shit happens and people talk things out. I sincerely hope they do. I also thought Suzy Wild's expression of concern for David being OK was interesting and intuitive.
I just have some questions I hope someone, preferably David himself, can help enlighten me on.
The main thing I don't get and never have gotten, I guess, is what are David's real views on all this?
I had thought that, much like other husbands of hotwives who post here, because he was instrumental in getting Jane going in the lifestyle, he must be enjoying her adventures. But it is not easy to tell much about the subjective character of his feelings from his posts. He never says that he has reclaimed her or that he jacks off waiting for her and thinking about her being out getting fucked, or that he loves listening to her fucking, or that he pesters her for her stories, or that he feels thrilled, jealous, humiliated or degraded or even that he loves her for what she does.
Instead, he portrays himself as hesitant and unsure and often taken by surprise by things that happen when she is hotwifing - "shocked". Or he finds something that happens to be strange, or says he doesn't really understand.
Then there is whatever it is he feels that makes him unable to endure watching her fuck, which seems unusual to me for the husband of a hotwife. For most of the husbands who post about their wives' exploits, watching or listening is a pinnacle of the experience (except for those of us who love fucking her after she has been fucked - for those of us who do, that's the pinnacle experience). For her part, Jane does not demand that he not be there - in fact it seems she either does not mind or seems positively to enjoy sucking and fucking other men in his presence.
But after everything that's happened in the last several years, I do wonder how he can still be shocked or surprised. Does he tell himself that this is a phase that will be over soon? Or does he think that maybe this time she has finally stopped wanting extramarital sex with fuckbuddies from club cruising and black guys? Has she said so to him?
It does seem sometimes that David is getting more "used to" having a very hot hotwife. However, it seems from what little he says that he still basically tolerates Jane's adventures but does not really enjoy them or feel himself to be part of them. I certainly could be wrong; or maybe I am simply uninformed, because the couple do keep a lot of their relationship to themselves.
I think if I came home to the news about Sam's visit, I would be all over my wife, probably cumming multiple times, all over her insides and her outsides, if not immediately in my trousers. I do recognize that there are differences among people and couples in how they react to hotwifing episodes, especially "unexpected" ones. But "big shock?" About something sexual Jane did??!?
It is hard to see how a hotwife lifestyle can endure if the husband is actually suffering while trying to tolerate behavior that he cannot stop or change. The essence of successful hotwifing marriages, in all their many manifestations, seems to be that both spouses are getting something they desire and value out of the wife fucking others. I don't see how it can work if that is not the case.
I really hope David can find a way to love what his extraordinarily beautiful and super-highly-sexed hotwife does and to benefit from it. She is something wonderful and if he can not only let her be who she is but also learn to love what she does in this aspect of their marital life, he will be much, much better off and so will she.
There is testimony from some longtime successful hotwifing couples that mutual accommodation can take a long time to arrive at but can ultimately be very successful - I cite rypmar and Lynda as an example. In that case, if I understand the story rightly, the husband was able to adjust his ideas and expectations so that not only did he hang on to the extraordinary woman that was his wife, he also benefited greatly, as his accounts depict in most exciting ways!
If I am missing something or am out of line on this, I will be happy at least to have elicited some response, even if it be only that I have no idea what I am talking about or that I should mind my own fucking business. But after all this is a Forum and we do and, in my opinion, ought to care about each other. (I know, that's the nosy neighborhood gossip's typical defense, but in this case it's sincere!!)
All the best to everyone here. I love this Forum and hope it continues to be the valuable resource we enjoy so much.
Seriously, I hope you are both okay!!!!
I don't know, either way, I hope they let us know if they are okay.
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