Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
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My ballspanking friend. You are so correct, I am damn lucky.
I love the fact that my wife has taken on her own identity in my forum.
Some of you guys are so generous with your advice and support...thanks!
My watchman, you too are one lucky guy/ Mrs.W seems like she is doing an incredible job of cucking you.
We all know that I still fight the cuckold thing. I am too aggressive to be dominated. I never was turned on by an aggressive woman...but cucking me the way my wife does is kind of cool!
She is learning.
I am nervous about being involved with L. SHE is such a beauty! I am not sure how to go about this one with my wife!
I do know that I have no problem being cucked by both of them. I actually prefer it this way....by taking this role, I know my wife will be more comfortable with my indulging upon L's tasty butt/pussy/breasts.
She is a lot like my wife. Looks........both are blondes with hot bodies/ cucking me........L likes this side of a man. She was in a miserable relationship where hubby cheated on her...and sex with him was once a month when he was drunk and not too hard( per L).
Anyway.................hope everyone had a fun weekend.
I will be talking soon,
I love the fact that my wife has taken on her own identity in my forum.
Some of you guys are so generous with your advice and support...thanks!
My watchman, you too are one lucky guy/ Mrs.W seems like she is doing an incredible job of cucking you.
We all know that I still fight the cuckold thing. I am too aggressive to be dominated. I never was turned on by an aggressive woman...but cucking me the way my wife does is kind of cool!
She is learning.
I am nervous about being involved with L. SHE is such a beauty! I am not sure how to go about this one with my wife!
I do know that I have no problem being cucked by both of them. I actually prefer it this way....by taking this role, I know my wife will be more comfortable with my indulging upon L's tasty butt/pussy/breasts.
She is a lot like my wife. Looks........both are blondes with hot bodies/ cucking me........L likes this side of a man. She was in a miserable relationship where hubby cheated on her...and sex with him was once a month when he was drunk and not too hard( per L).
Anyway.................hope everyone had a fun weekend.
I will be talking soon,
Reese!!!!
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
Mrs. Reese & Reese-you 2 are lucky you found each other. I get tired just reading these stories. With regards to L, I'm sure you'll figure it out.
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
Reese,
I think you will find when you are involved in an FMF with Ms Reese and L, that sex with Ms L will happen quite naturally. I think Ms Reese is being extremely cool about this and trying to provide you with a little bit of the fun and freedom she is enjoying, as well as providing L with some good hard cock, which she so badly needs.
I thought it would be cool if Ms L could be included in more of Ms Reese's love-play, both going solo with Ms Reese, and attending some stag parties with Ms Reese, that way they can keep an eye out for each other, and/or please each other if the mood suits them!
I think you will find when you are involved in an FMF with Ms Reese and L, that sex with Ms L will happen quite naturally. I think Ms Reese is being extremely cool about this and trying to provide you with a little bit of the fun and freedom she is enjoying, as well as providing L with some good hard cock, which she so badly needs.
I thought it would be cool if Ms L could be included in more of Ms Reese's love-play, both going solo with Ms Reese, and attending some stag parties with Ms Reese, that way they can keep an eye out for each other, and/or please each other if the mood suits them!
Schwiiiiing ... Thud! (Projectile erection becomes vicious uppercut KO!)
Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
Reese,
I know you have difficulty submitting to the cuckold role with Mrs R. She is offering you to be with L because you have allowed her to cuckold you and because L wants to be a Cuckoldress as well. She will get to practice with you so set a good example. There are a lot of wannabes, there are a few lucky cucks who have a wife that lovingly cuckolds them, you'll be the only one who is cuckolded by two hot women at the same time! It's worth every moment of denial, teasing and frustration for the reclaiming and clean up fun you'll be having!
O2
I know you have difficulty submitting to the cuckold role with Mrs R. She is offering you to be with L because you have allowed her to cuckold you and because L wants to be a Cuckoldress as well. She will get to practice with you so set a good example. There are a lot of wannabes, there are a few lucky cucks who have a wife that lovingly cuckolds them, you'll be the only one who is cuckolded by two hot women at the same time! It's worth every moment of denial, teasing and frustration for the reclaiming and clean up fun you'll be having!
O2
Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
To really show Mrs. Reece how devoted you are to her, would you perhaps consider thanking her kindly for her generosity, but turning down her offer of sex with 'L'. Wouldn't this make your wife feel more appreciated, adored and loved?
I somehow think a sacrifice such as this would eventually pay off massive dividends for you, and would certainly make Mrs R feel more confident, secure and loved, especially within the frame work of this hotwife/swinging/cuckolding lifestyle.
I don't presume to speak for Mrs R, and I might be speaking out of turn, but thuis is just my gut reaction to the offer made to you, for which you have a choice to accept or graciously decline.
Food for thought, atleast....
Hwc
I somehow think a sacrifice such as this would eventually pay off massive dividends for you, and would certainly make Mrs R feel more confident, secure and loved, especially within the frame work of this hotwife/swinging/cuckolding lifestyle.
I don't presume to speak for Mrs R, and I might be speaking out of turn, but thuis is just my gut reaction to the offer made to you, for which you have a choice to accept or graciously decline.
Food for thought, atleast....
Hwc
Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
Hwc,
Thanks, I never thought about that perspective.
More soon, I have a lot of work to catch up on.
I appreciate the advice.
Thanks, I never thought about that perspective.
More soon, I have a lot of work to catch up on.
I appreciate the advice.
Reese!!!!
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"I think therefore I am"
Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
I did discuss to my wife that maybe I should back off L.
She asked why? She thought that I would be wild with this opportunity.
I told her that I am somewhat nervous about this. I know how jealous my wife is...and telling her that...i told her that I wasnt sure if this would be a good idea.
SHe was persistent about doing this for me!
We both agreed to take it very slowly..and if i was uncomfortable with anything, then i could tell her to back off.
It's thursday, it has been quiet this week. We both needed a well-deserved break from hw play.
Back to the normal husband and wife role for both of us.
This weekend, we will be going out on Saturday night for a dinner.
My HW plans on meeting up with L at a fun martini bar.....with me present.
At this point....she wants to cuckold me with L.
We will be spending Saturday night together................the 3 of us. It will be L's first real overnight visit to our home.
I can not tell you how excited I am...........Saturday night should be wild!
More later.
She asked why? She thought that I would be wild with this opportunity.
I told her that I am somewhat nervous about this. I know how jealous my wife is...and telling her that...i told her that I wasnt sure if this would be a good idea.
SHe was persistent about doing this for me!
We both agreed to take it very slowly..and if i was uncomfortable with anything, then i could tell her to back off.
It's thursday, it has been quiet this week. We both needed a well-deserved break from hw play.
Back to the normal husband and wife role for both of us.
This weekend, we will be going out on Saturday night for a dinner.
My HW plans on meeting up with L at a fun martini bar.....with me present.
At this point....she wants to cuckold me with L.
We will be spending Saturday night together................the 3 of us. It will be L's first real overnight visit to our home.
I can not tell you how excited I am...........Saturday night should be wild!
More later.
Reese!!!!
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
I for one think it’s a very good thing, an EXCELLENT thing that you fight the cuckold thing, while in many parts embracing it. For example you love her denying you – but only for a few days, not weeks or (shudder months) at a time, as more than a few cuckolds slide into. As well, you DENY her. And that has real meaning because of how much she wants you. Well your ability to deny her, your at times dominant personality (while still allowing her to be sexually in control during your cuckold times before you reclaim her) are it seems to me what keeps your HW thing so intense and so uniquely the two of you. It really is a marvelous thing you two have worked out. What I'm saying is don't blow it by getting TOO cuckold. And yeah that's more than possible, and often encouraged by many (over far or fairly far on the cuckold side of things) on boards like this. (Others don't but there's an ethic of not saying anything negative or too negative, etc .....)“We all know that I still fight the cuckold thing. I am too aggressive to be dominated. I never was turned on by an aggressive woman...but cucking me the way my wife does is kind of cool!
She is learning.”
To me yours is fundamentally a hotwife, rather than a cuckold, relationship. First you have lots of great full on fucking sex with your wife and in fact both more and better than before beginning. (Far over cuckolds after a while can only claim "better" because they've become addicted to long term denial, humilation and submission, in some combination.) You remain not only partly in ultimate control but completely there according to Mrs. R. You may chose to tell her she can fuck anyone she wants, and she can love telling lovers or men/women she’s flirting with that, but I think in reality you ultimately do have a veto. I sure as hell know you SHOULD if you want yours to remain ultimately and on balance a hotwife relationship, though indulging in some very hot for you cuckold scenes and periods (again before reclaiming, which you always do). Friends or at least some friends on a situational basis you should be not only formally able to veto, but you should resolve to in fact veto, should she want to go there. You don’t want status with your circle of friends and acquitances and ultimately workmates to plummet, do you? It would, generally speaking (there are exceptions). Work colleagues too. Same reason.
Same thing goes with spending too much time with one lover such that that becomes more and more a full blown romantic affair. I realize that can create cuckold (submissive) thrills in some, and that they will take enough comfort in their wife’s pledge that she will never love you her husband less because she has growing love feelings for another man, and certainly won’t leave you. Well even if she wouldn’t ever leave you there are lots and lots of examples, it sure looks to me like a strong majority of the cases, where a cuckolding (as opposed to hotwifing) wife DOES loose lust and yes romantic love for her husband because of falling in love with a lover, while still being affectionately "in love" with him for reliable long term emotional security, companionship, and financial security. I know you don’t want that.
Retaining lots of your own overall control (rather than giving complete and unreclaimable carte blanche to your wife, according to whatever feels right to her in the heady moment), successfully retaking your wife after her trysts, and cutting off things with any particular lover if she is becoming too romantically attached to him (or starts only wanting to fuck him and not much you any more) are crucial to keeping this at the intense and empowering level it’s at for both of you.
One other thing, I think you DEFINITELY should take Mrs. R up on her offer to let you fuck L. (For one thing I imagine she has in mind making you feel somewhat attached to L under her constant control, and then having L cuckold you as well as herself. I mean with another man such as D, not just girl girl.) But as well I think just as it’s VERY good for you to sometimes deny your wife as well, it’s also good for you to make her jealous and to realize that other similarly gorgeous women really love to fuck you too. Yeah she may know that but there’s nothing like seeking it or hearing about it in detail. I’m not suggesting even steven swinging or anything close. I’m just saying you getting some elsewhere too once in awhile is likely to be VERY good for the heat between you too, in light of all the confidence building her HW activities have done for her.
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
Mrs R
For similar reasons you SHOULD let him fuck L, initially at least under your up close and personal supervision. It will be GOOD for you to feel jealous. It will make you all the more mad for your husband if you approach it in the right way, and know he isn't cheating / going behind your back -- and that you can call a halt. But you shouldn't call a halt.
You really don't want to make your husband into a real full on cuckold. I'm not at all sure you can, but there are always things pulling in that direction for any man that gets into this lifestyle and feels how much more desireable his wife is to him when she fucks other attractive men of her own accord.
Always leave him with ultimate veto power over any particular lover, to not start with, or to end things with if they are going too far for the health and intensity of the sex between the two of you.
That's KEY (one key) to your husband remaining sexually irresistable to you.I am signing off, I need to spoil my man again, I am craving him so much. I hate when he rejects me like he did yesterday.
For similar reasons you SHOULD let him fuck L, initially at least under your up close and personal supervision. It will be GOOD for you to feel jealous. It will make you all the more mad for your husband if you approach it in the right way, and know he isn't cheating / going behind your back -- and that you can call a halt. But you shouldn't call a halt.
You really don't want to make your husband into a real full on cuckold. I'm not at all sure you can, but there are always things pulling in that direction for any man that gets into this lifestyle and feels how much more desireable his wife is to him when she fucks other attractive men of her own accord.
Always leave him with ultimate veto power over any particular lover, to not start with, or to end things with if they are going too far for the health and intensity of the sex between the two of you.
Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
odyexplorer.
Wow, thankyou for taking the time to share some insightful thoughts regarding my hotwife and L.
It is very helpful to both of us when we read comments from our readers.............this one in particular.
I know cuckolding is a very hot subject in this forum. I fight it at times....I deny it all the time...and I never want to lose complete control to my wife. It is exciting at times...to give up control........to watch my hw throughly push the buttons of cuckoldress and get off doing it.
I can not ever give up control of my sex to my wife. I am the man in our relationship...WE all have our own beliefs and values within a relationship............and there are some in here that will accuse some of being cucked or feminized or bi or gay or whatever.........and I DO NOT BELIEVE LABELING ANYONE IS FAIR! WE HAVE FREEDOM WITHIN OUR OWN RELATIONSHIPS......WHATEVER WE CHOOSE TO DO IS OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT!
Thank-you.......odyexplorer for having a gentle and mature explaination of my relationship with my wife.
Thank-you for not labeling me................as a Metallica song talks about "labeling me and labeling you"...what is the title of that song............UNFORGIVEN I believe. I think it is sad when we have opinions of others that belittle a person.
Anyway...........your belief that I should encounter L and share myself with her........I will make sure that my wife reads your post.
Denying my wife...........I do it more that anyone would believe.
Tonight........she works late.........she encouraged me to call L on the phone...............she encouraged me to have phone sex with L. MY HW told me that she told L the same thing..............."get my husband off on the phone"
In our bedroom........she left me a goodie bag...........She asked me to promise NOT to open it until I call L at midnight tonight.
She did tell me that there is something that L was wearing inside the goodie bag along with other hot items from L.
THIS WILL BE FUCKING HOT TONIGHT!!
Wow, thankyou for taking the time to share some insightful thoughts regarding my hotwife and L.
It is very helpful to both of us when we read comments from our readers.............this one in particular.
I know cuckolding is a very hot subject in this forum. I fight it at times....I deny it all the time...and I never want to lose complete control to my wife. It is exciting at times...to give up control........to watch my hw throughly push the buttons of cuckoldress and get off doing it.
I can not ever give up control of my sex to my wife. I am the man in our relationship...WE all have our own beliefs and values within a relationship............and there are some in here that will accuse some of being cucked or feminized or bi or gay or whatever.........and I DO NOT BELIEVE LABELING ANYONE IS FAIR! WE HAVE FREEDOM WITHIN OUR OWN RELATIONSHIPS......WHATEVER WE CHOOSE TO DO IS OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT!
Thank-you.......odyexplorer for having a gentle and mature explaination of my relationship with my wife.
Thank-you for not labeling me................as a Metallica song talks about "labeling me and labeling you"...what is the title of that song............UNFORGIVEN I believe. I think it is sad when we have opinions of others that belittle a person.
Anyway...........your belief that I should encounter L and share myself with her........I will make sure that my wife reads your post.
Denying my wife...........I do it more that anyone would believe.
Tonight........she works late.........she encouraged me to call L on the phone...............she encouraged me to have phone sex with L. MY HW told me that she told L the same thing..............."get my husband off on the phone"
In our bedroom........she left me a goodie bag...........She asked me to promise NOT to open it until I call L at midnight tonight.
She did tell me that there is something that L was wearing inside the goodie bag along with other hot items from L.
THIS WILL BE FUCKING HOT TONIGHT!!
Reese!!!!
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
What I most want to convey is the idea that there can be a slippery slope into greater and greater cuckoldry => a lot less full spectrum and esp. male dominant sex with your wife. You avoid that in lots of ways that I’ve partly alluded to above, but I’m hoping to convey to you that it’s a real danger and to be aware. A danger that is if you don’t want to end up rarely fucking your wife, for example. I’m not trying to put down full on cuckolds who are happy being that. I’m rather trying to point out the gravitational pulls that exist. What feels good in the moment can sometimes be a problem if taken too far, depending on your goals.
I’m quoting this well written and interesting comment way up near the start of this thread partly because it’s insightful, but doesn’t go all the way – doesn’t really alert all the true dangers, and partly because you’ve obviously read the principal Tom and Maria thread, or at least were back then in April:
Yet you can slide into it – by giving up all sexual power and control to your wife. (Also being a lousy lover is an important factor but Tom doesn’t sound like he is really, just not as dominantly thrilling as Maria’s other (true) sexual lovers. She even has one that fills the affectionate, softer and more romantic love making role (Jonny, who posts on this board a little).
I know you clearly aren’t a lousing lover and also that you’re a high testosterone and good looking male that’s very attractive to other women, albeit you are 13 years older (though in excellent shape). So all that helps.
But the thing is, your wife is naturally sexually submissive to men that can thrilling dominate her, after seducing her. She also loves dominating you now, in a sense, by teasing you and denying you and taking charge of her sexual agenda by announcing she’s gonna be gang banged by five young studs and you can’t be there and watch and so on. It’s so thrilling to her in large part because she’s turning the tables on her normally dominant, studly, high testosterone husband. It will be a whole lot less thrilling to her if you let her sieze complete sexual control all the time. She might even lose her sexual attraction for you, her desire to have you fuck her lots and lots, if you on any kind of overall basis, as opposed to play interludes, cede all sexual control to her.
Some cuckoldresses have a strong dominant streak and really want a submissive husband. They also usually derive their real high octane sexual thrills from dominant lovers – who they can’t control and wouldn’t want to live with. That leads very often to weeks and weeks (like Tom now) and even longer periods of denial, and often to limiting sex most of the time to the husband orally servicing his wife in a submissive way. Your wife however as at core a pretty far over there sexual submissive would not thrill so much sexually in doming and cuckolding you if you weren’t her strong, dominant stud husband any more. You’ve got biology working for you but don’t give up too much overall control either. Only temporarily with always the right to pull it back. Which you should sometimes do, I think.
Actually the single biggest danger I see for you at the moment is allowing your wife’s relationship with D to get too intense and emotional. Her simply promising (and at the moment generally desiring) not to fall in love is not enough and not remotely safe by itself. Women are emotional creatures and lots of great male dominant sex with a man that they also enjoy spending time with can have a real effect over time on lots and lots of women’s emotions. The more naturally monogamous she is, and most women are to a fairly but varying high degree (in the sense often of serial monogamy), the greater the danger.
http://ourhotwives.org/forum/posting.ph ... =5&p=49272mrs_hotwifecplsa wrote:and this is where the excitement/fear come into play. in a sense, you DO lose her, or a part of her anyway. when she opens herself (with your encouragement) to wanting another mans sexual affections and attention, you lose her sexual exclusivity and open up the pandoras box of her openly desiring other men. in wanting her to go a night alone with her lovers, youre also giving up all control and oversight to her and him. her passion and sex are no longer only yours, but something you must share and trust to her -and his- desires. youre crossing lines and pushing boundries, and that can be very scary and give you emotional ups and downs. its like letting a bird go hoping it will come back, lol. but, when she comes home and allows you to "claim" her back, then it will all be worth itreese wrote:I want her to do this...........i crave her doing this...........i am just afraid I am going to lose her one day!
I’m quoting this well written and interesting comment way up near the start of this thread partly because it’s insightful, but doesn’t go all the way – doesn’t really alert all the true dangers, and partly because you’ve obviously read the principal Tom and Maria thread, or at least were back then in April:
Whether like Maria’s bird your wife comes back to you is only part of the issue. That’s essentially the danger that she’ll leave you for someone else. She also as Maria alludes to, has to allow you, and I’ll I think critically add, continues to desire you to fully reclaim her. Or close enough to fully to keep everything between the two of you. If she only wants oral sex with you, and infrequent, relationship maintainly fucking sex – if she basically only wants affection, companionship (just intimate friends) cuddling, emotional and financial security, oral sex – but sometimes, say every two or three weeks or maybe sometimes only once a month, gives you penetrative fucking sex as her gift to you (rather than her hot desire for you to fuck her hard and well or anyway real well) – would you be happy? How about if your wife only allowed you to fuck her with the above infrequency and then only soon after other, considerably or much more endowed men had fucked her and she couldn’t feel you nearly as much – to increase your growing feelings of humiliation and sexual inadequacy? (There is always someone much bigger. She cn find them.) Now look at this from Maria, one of her latest postings, though it’s not on her and Tom’s saga thread but rather in a thread entitled “How Often Do You Fuck Your Wife”:reese wrote:mrs hotwifecplsa......you are like a rock star to me...have read your posts...and they are simple magnificent...reading your hubbys posts...in a weird way..i admire him...personally, thanks for your words of wisdom....
The thing is, I have my doubts if this really what Tom wants - I mean as far as it's gone into his missing out on her sexually desiring him. Yeah he wanted hotwifing and he enjoyed certain cuckolding thrills. But having his wife consider him as really not sexually thrilling or even needing him sexually anymore? I think he feels stuck, maybe I’m wrong though. I strongly suspect YOU’D hate being in that position. Certainly I'm not trying to put anyone down who's happy with their choices. I'm just trying to point out dangers for those who see the end result as a danger to avoid. Avoiding isn't necessarily all nature - going exclusively with one's gut. There's also an art to it / knowledge it's become pretty clear to me. After all there's a reason people come to forums like this one. At least to me it sometimes seems like the pull / push towards greater cuckoldry is bad advice for many people, such as, it seems to me, you. Again I could be wrong.mrs_hotwifecplsa wrote:in answer to the subject, since coming to the conclusion that my husband is cuckold, i deny him regularly now and only allow him to make love to me after another man has had me. so i give him sex once a week at most, but more like once every 2 weeks, and sometimes less often. we do a lot of talking, cuddling and i get all the affection i need from him, but really all of my sexual needs are met by my 5 lovers. when i have sex with my husband it is for intimacy, affection and love. he is well aware of this.
i bet she only started hotwifing after you did a lot of talking and/or playing with her about it, and she was sure that you knew what you wanted.
this is what i tell my husband when he looks like he's missing out: youve got what you wantedsince his dick is hard everytime we talk about it (and everytime im acting on it), i know im doing the right things.
Yet you can slide into it – by giving up all sexual power and control to your wife. (Also being a lousy lover is an important factor but Tom doesn’t sound like he is really, just not as dominantly thrilling as Maria’s other (true) sexual lovers. She even has one that fills the affectionate, softer and more romantic love making role (Jonny, who posts on this board a little).
I know you clearly aren’t a lousing lover and also that you’re a high testosterone and good looking male that’s very attractive to other women, albeit you are 13 years older (though in excellent shape). So all that helps.
But the thing is, your wife is naturally sexually submissive to men that can thrilling dominate her, after seducing her. She also loves dominating you now, in a sense, by teasing you and denying you and taking charge of her sexual agenda by announcing she’s gonna be gang banged by five young studs and you can’t be there and watch and so on. It’s so thrilling to her in large part because she’s turning the tables on her normally dominant, studly, high testosterone husband. It will be a whole lot less thrilling to her if you let her sieze complete sexual control all the time. She might even lose her sexual attraction for you, her desire to have you fuck her lots and lots, if you on any kind of overall basis, as opposed to play interludes, cede all sexual control to her.
Some cuckoldresses have a strong dominant streak and really want a submissive husband. They also usually derive their real high octane sexual thrills from dominant lovers – who they can’t control and wouldn’t want to live with. That leads very often to weeks and weeks (like Tom now) and even longer periods of denial, and often to limiting sex most of the time to the husband orally servicing his wife in a submissive way. Your wife however as at core a pretty far over there sexual submissive would not thrill so much sexually in doming and cuckolding you if you weren’t her strong, dominant stud husband any more. You’ve got biology working for you but don’t give up too much overall control either. Only temporarily with always the right to pull it back. Which you should sometimes do, I think.
Actually the single biggest danger I see for you at the moment is allowing your wife’s relationship with D to get too intense and emotional. Her simply promising (and at the moment generally desiring) not to fall in love is not enough and not remotely safe by itself. Women are emotional creatures and lots of great male dominant sex with a man that they also enjoy spending time with can have a real effect over time on lots and lots of women’s emotions. The more naturally monogamous she is, and most women are to a fairly but varying high degree (in the sense often of serial monogamy), the greater the danger.
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
OK, I'm reading back through your thread. Before I'd read a lot of more recent posts, and a few from further back.
Her hot (short term) denial of you in favor of another man or men and your giving up to her teasing and taunting control for a period during which she announces she will be exclusively with one or several other lovers and you have no say -- well keep that always a kind of play acting and limited in time, like the one or two day things you've done so far. Very real in many ways, but only real in the moment. Well the hot sex is very real, but I'm talking about the transfer of total sexual control. You've got to retain some. A whole lot in the veto sense, actually.
She's so turned by YOU when doing that because she's playing against type -- hers AND yours. She playing against her normally mostly charged up submissive sexual nature with you, while submitting wholehardly to other men and tormenting you. But you must always remain ultimately in control. You must retain the POWER to PERMIT her to do those things. You must always ensure that what's normally the way she is with you sexually remains that way normally, or at the very least a good lot, and something you can always insist on reasserting.
If she ever comes to realize that really you have not power or control to limit her playing with any one man with dangerously deepening emotions, or spending too much time away from you, and so on -- you're in real steep sliding slippery slope cuckold land. In other words, it CANNOT really be all up to her, and entirely what she wants. Sure, that's fine when it's all good, but only on a provisional, temporary basis. In reality you both need to be considered.
The canary in the coal mine is how hot she is for fucking type sex with you, and also, for doing just as much (or more) sexually with you as any of her lovers. If she only does anal with a lover, danger sign. Danger of increasing pretty much one way cuckoldry (damn hard to turn around anyway), I mean.
I see you walking this tightrope, more so than many or most primarily hotwifing as opposed to cuckolding couples. Also you and your HW and very intense and obviously very attractive. So its way more than usually interesting - but also somewhat concerning to me.
This is so key to the core sexual dynamics of your relationship. DO NOT lose sight of the utter key importance of your retaining all this in her eyes - if you want her to keep on madly desiring you sexually -- as opposed to the way it ends up in a whole lot of more cuckold relationships.reese wrote:...I didnt want to beg for her...I didnt want to ASK her again to spend some time with me....all along with this HW play, I have not ever acted desperate or needy. Her big turn on is that I act very manly......that I act like I am in control.......that I act like SHE is the one who has to work for me...............that I act non jealous.
She is so turned on by the way I am HER man...........my wisdom, love making, fatherly qualites with children. my career, the way I interact with people and MOST important.....she is so turned on by the way I fuck her and make her cum!
Her hot (short term) denial of you in favor of another man or men and your giving up to her teasing and taunting control for a period during which she announces she will be exclusively with one or several other lovers and you have no say -- well keep that always a kind of play acting and limited in time, like the one or two day things you've done so far. Very real in many ways, but only real in the moment. Well the hot sex is very real, but I'm talking about the transfer of total sexual control. You've got to retain some. A whole lot in the veto sense, actually.
She's so turned by YOU when doing that because she's playing against type -- hers AND yours. She playing against her normally mostly charged up submissive sexual nature with you, while submitting wholehardly to other men and tormenting you. But you must always remain ultimately in control. You must retain the POWER to PERMIT her to do those things. You must always ensure that what's normally the way she is with you sexually remains that way normally, or at the very least a good lot, and something you can always insist on reasserting.
If she ever comes to realize that really you have not power or control to limit her playing with any one man with dangerously deepening emotions, or spending too much time away from you, and so on -- you're in real steep sliding slippery slope cuckold land. In other words, it CANNOT really be all up to her, and entirely what she wants. Sure, that's fine when it's all good, but only on a provisional, temporary basis. In reality you both need to be considered.
The canary in the coal mine is how hot she is for fucking type sex with you, and also, for doing just as much (or more) sexually with you as any of her lovers. If she only does anal with a lover, danger sign. Danger of increasing pretty much one way cuckoldry (damn hard to turn around anyway), I mean.
I see you walking this tightrope, more so than many or most primarily hotwifing as opposed to cuckolding couples. Also you and your HW and very intense and obviously very attractive. So its way more than usually interesting - but also somewhat concerning to me.
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
REALLY a bad idea. Some emotional feelings for her lovers, ok. But all that? It usually ends badly. Might not mean she'll leave you as in pack up, but it might well mean she'll never love you as much again. Oh, she may APPRECIATE you just as much or more for all the freedom, but -- will she want to have full on sex with you as much - to pick a hardly unimportant for instance.reese wrote: Tonight.............I am going to tell her how badly that I hope one day that she has a fulltime BF........where she can go away with him on vacations......live or stay with him for weekends......and have a fulltime love affair............
Just because you find it thrilling to contemplate doesn't mean it's likely to turn out as you hope or imagine. What you're doing is sexualizing intense emotions, like severe jealous (which you then call something else, perhaps). Some of that is what a HW lifestyle is all or importantly about -- it makes you desire you wife madly more.
Great. You also want to ensure that you wife KEEPS desiring you more, even if a bit less madly than the reverse. Just make sure it's not wildly less if you want to avoid little full spectrum sex cuckoldry.
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
What your wife was telling you about were of course feelings, premonitions. She may or may not have been able to fully analyze it -- probably not. What she was telling you is that she's afraid she may be loosing the dominant you - sexually and otherwise. She likes the counter play (cuckolding power) but doesn't want to lose your fundamental primary control over her life and yours.reese wrote: I need to tell all of you something that my HW shared with me last night.
She told me that she is afraid of losing me. She told me at times she thinks that this fantasy and lifestyle is ruining our lives together. She is afraid that I am becoming addicted to the intense feelings that overcome me everyday.
I assured her that I might be an emotional wreck at times...but that I am still that man that she fell in love with.
She's afraid of losing her deep sexual attraction to you.
Don't let that happen because of the YES very addictive jealous=> massively heightened desire by you for her rushes that your getting. Don't go to far and esp. not too fast. As I've tried to sketch out above.
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
I'm going to disagree; I think what Mrs.Reese was expressing was the fear that the extreme excitement of the fantasy would overwhelm her husband, as it has done to others on occasion, such that their own one-on-one sex life would not be possble without the imagery of other men involved; she was afraid not about her response, but her husband's - that there would always be phantoms in their bedroom, never just the two of them. That has happened, I'm sure you've also seen the posts about husbands who get so wrapped up in this that they lose sight of the couple aspect of this lifestyle and it becomes a fetish for them. The wives do not like this, not at all.What your wife was telling you about were of course feelings, premonitions. ... She's afraid of losing her deep sexual attraction to you.
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
One of the people you time and again thank for their helpful advice to you is watchman.
Are you aware that he had this to say on the thread "How Often Do You Fuck Your Wife"?
Are you catching my drift here?
Are you aware that he had this to say on the thread "How Often Do You Fuck Your Wife"?
Hey, if that works for him, fine. Good for him. But does that work for you?watchman570 wrote:Not at all since she's exclusive with 'D'. She spent last night and today being fucked by him. Can you say watchman is horny.
Are you catching my drift here?
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
Likesharing--
It could be both what you suggested and what I did. But I'm quite (somewhat less than 100%) certain that what I suggested was there.
It could be both what you suggested and what I did. But I'm quite (somewhat less than 100%) certain that what I suggested was there.
Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
You are correct...it is all about "whatever works for you"!
LAST NIGHT........as instructed, I called L at around midnight.
She told me that my wife is really into watching me have sex with L.
L told me that is is really hot to watch the way my hotwife cuckolds me.
L asked me if I am really into that....I explained to her my idea of this hotwife relationship....telling her that my wife and i share fantasies and we both are eager to allow each other to indulge in those fantasies to satisfy each other.
L was horny............she told me that she wanted me to open the goodie bag..get in bed and strip naked.
L told me that is was very impt for her to control me. SHe liked the fact that I would give in to her demands. Explaining to me that she liked this control...........a control that she has never experienced over another man.
Inside the bag................panties....the scent was pussy....not a bad scent..but that sexy pussy scent...there was also a pair of panties that my wife had worn.........and of course....nylons.....my wife mustve told L that I have a footfetish...nylons/hose fetish.......L had a vibrator going.....and her voice is almost as sexy as my wife's.........we talked for about 1o minutes..........L would ask me how her panties tasted....her scent...telling me to put her panties in my mouth..to clean them.....i orgasmed right away...
it was probably due to the fact that L is gorgeous...and knowing that my wife was hot for this to happen..........listening to L talk to me on the phone...i envisioned how she would feel.......fucking her marvelous pussy..........and knowing that my wife would be taking on my role....she would be cuckolded by me....
L orgasmed...telling me that she wiped her cum all over her panties that she will be saving for me on Saturday.
That was my night...........my wife came home and told me that L called her and left a voice message...telling her that I was perfect.....and all about our phone sex session.
My hw told me that SHE Is so excited about Saturday night.
I am suprised...............my wife is cuckolding me into fucking her friend L.
More later.
LAST NIGHT........as instructed, I called L at around midnight.
She told me that my wife is really into watching me have sex with L.
L told me that is is really hot to watch the way my hotwife cuckolds me.
L asked me if I am really into that....I explained to her my idea of this hotwife relationship....telling her that my wife and i share fantasies and we both are eager to allow each other to indulge in those fantasies to satisfy each other.
L was horny............she told me that she wanted me to open the goodie bag..get in bed and strip naked.
L told me that is was very impt for her to control me. SHe liked the fact that I would give in to her demands. Explaining to me that she liked this control...........a control that she has never experienced over another man.
Inside the bag................panties....the scent was pussy....not a bad scent..but that sexy pussy scent...there was also a pair of panties that my wife had worn.........and of course....nylons.....my wife mustve told L that I have a footfetish...nylons/hose fetish.......L had a vibrator going.....and her voice is almost as sexy as my wife's.........we talked for about 1o minutes..........L would ask me how her panties tasted....her scent...telling me to put her panties in my mouth..to clean them.....i orgasmed right away...
it was probably due to the fact that L is gorgeous...and knowing that my wife was hot for this to happen..........listening to L talk to me on the phone...i envisioned how she would feel.......fucking her marvelous pussy..........and knowing that my wife would be taking on my role....she would be cuckolded by me....
L orgasmed...telling me that she wiped her cum all over her panties that she will be saving for me on Saturday.
That was my night...........my wife came home and told me that L called her and left a voice message...telling her that I was perfect.....and all about our phone sex session.
My hw told me that SHE Is so excited about Saturday night.
I am suprised...............my wife is cuckolding me into fucking her friend L.
More later.
Reese!!!!
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"I think therefore I am"
Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
My man got off WITH L last night. I orchestrated the entire set up. Finally, I get to play the role of my hwhubby.
This will be a very interesting weekend for us. I will finally go thru the same sensations of my husband when I play hotwife to my bf's and gf's.
I have often wondered how he gets so excited by watching another person make me cum, or by being denied, or sitting back while I flirt with men at a bar.
L is perfect for me, I trust her, she is my lover and she is willing to play by my rules.
Baby, you are so lucky to have a hw like me
I love you/ see you later today.
Oh, no sex for you, I need to save you for L tomorrow!
This will be a very interesting weekend for us. I will finally go thru the same sensations of my husband when I play hotwife to my bf's and gf's.
I have often wondered how he gets so excited by watching another person make me cum, or by being denied, or sitting back while I flirt with men at a bar.
L is perfect for me, I trust her, she is my lover and she is willing to play by my rules.
Baby, you are so lucky to have a hw like me
I love you/ see you later today.
Oh, no sex for you, I need to save you for L tomorrow!
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
What you will feel is some degree of jealousy, perhaps a whole lot. The key is to sexualize that. Realize it will make you sexually desire your husband all the more, because after all he isn't betraying you, instead he's flexing his sexual muscles by demoing his great attractiveness to another woman -- all the way through the act.mrs_reese wrote: I have often wondered how he gets so excited by watching another person make me cum, or by being denied, or sitting back while I flirt with men at a bar.
L is perfect for me, I trust her, she is my lover and she is willing to play by my rules.
Baby, you are so lucky to have a hw like me![]()
Suppress any anger, or any feeling of threat - because you know perfectly well there isn't any. Even if you feel that AT THE MOMENT he desires her even more than you, that's because of novelty and he's not remotely about to prefer her overall to you, or leave you. You couldn't have L any more sewed up, just for good measure. She's thrilled at the prospect of further sex play with you and other men, besides your husband (and yeah in a flirting, taunting quasi cuckolding way towards him.)
Suppress anger/threat/panic - but bask in the (can be) sweet pain of the (safe) jealousy, and convert that, feel that, is huge desire for Reese.
Oh, and there ARE quite a lot of (primarily) hotwifing couples that allow some male play, without that becoming the primary driver or even steven sort of deal. Esp. if you want to keep your husband virile and confident and your stud/MAN for you, as I think you do, just with lots of sexual power over him (and yourself), then I think it's a great move.
Make it work hotness.
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
This is a new and exciting world of eroticism for me...thank you Mr & Mrs Reese
'Whatever you give a woman, she will make greater. Give her sperm, she'll give you a baby. Give her a house, she'll give you a home. Give her groceries, she'll give you a meal. So, if you give her any crap, be ready to receive a ton of shit.'
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
Reese...,
You are one lucky, lucky......., LUCKY guy!
You are one lucky, lucky......., LUCKY guy!
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
It starts very soon.
L is coming over in the afternoon.
We have a nice pool, the weather is still nice.....my hubby is working out and not sure when this will all start.
I plan on asking him to hang out with us.
Skinny dipping? You betchya!
We will put on a show for my man.
I thought that L and I would take our time with him, torment him all afternoon at the poolside.
We plan on going out for an early dinner share a few drinks and back to our home for fun.
I do not plan on having anyone else over.
Just my man, me and L.
02 has suggested that I have my hubby call D and ask him to cuckold him with L and myself.
I like that idea...maybe next week before the weekend.
I love the idea of D having his pussy(me and giving L to him as well) and having my hubby cucked by all 3 of us.
I asked him last night if he would love to clean up L after D cummed in her....his cock grew at that thought
gotta go and get ready for our day.
xoxoxo,
we will talk to you later
xoxoxo
L is coming over in the afternoon.
We have a nice pool, the weather is still nice.....my hubby is working out and not sure when this will all start.
I plan on asking him to hang out with us.
Skinny dipping? You betchya!
We will put on a show for my man.
I thought that L and I would take our time with him, torment him all afternoon at the poolside.
We plan on going out for an early dinner share a few drinks and back to our home for fun.
I do not plan on having anyone else over.
Just my man, me and L.
02 has suggested that I have my hubby call D and ask him to cuckold him with L and myself.
I like that idea...maybe next week before the weekend.
I love the idea of D having his pussy(me and giving L to him as well) and having my hubby cucked by all 3 of us.
I asked him last night if he would love to clean up L after D cummed in her....his cock grew at that thought
gotta go and get ready for our day.
xoxoxo,
we will talk to you later
xoxoxo
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
I think the L,D, Ms Reese scenario would be most cool. Even better if Reese spent the night in the guest bedroom as you girls feasted on D's cock (and each other!!). 
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Re: Hotwife going out alone/why is it too difficult for me?
Hope everyone had fun!
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