Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[regular3]

When you say silence mode, do you just wait for her to bring it up or do you ask but she avoids?

[slenderfish]

Wasn’t there another younger guy she conversed with out in that area? Could be a plan C.

SW has been kind of complaining about the limitations because of COVID, lamenting that there is nowhere to go but hotel room. This is kind of what took her over the cliff with Mr. S, in that he's not really a conversationalist and apparently only wants to fuck. She said she can't see spending hours with him on Wed a) because they don't have real history of conversation and banter, and it's not his strong suit, and b) she doesn't want to envision a bump-and-run kind of scenario where he is there and gone within an hour.

For example, SW had asked Mr. S if he has any guy friend for her closest single girlfriend who lives in the area. There was a tentative plan to do a double date next week. That's now eliminated because of scheduling and COVID limitations. There is talk of a backup plan, of going over to this buddy's house for drinks with just the three of them (apparently his buddy can be trusted to keep a secret from Mr. S' girlfriend).

And according to SW (after her hour-long call with Mr. M yesterday), he is not offering to get together on Wed because he has a buddy coming into town and they are planning to have beers and commiserate at Mr. M's place. SW actually invited herself over to hang with them, and is waiting for Mr. M to change his mind and agree to have her join them.

You may recall that she introduced phone sex to Mr. M about two weeks ago. I'm not sure if they have continued that (she says not) but they have been in pretty significant communication over the past two or three weeks (60 min call then 135 min call to include phone sex then 70 min call yesterday).

So my best guess for now is that she is waiting for Mr. M to get back to her, after which she will let Mr. S know when (on Wed) she has open time for him, if at all.

I like your memory and the point you make. Because SW has gone mum, I have been thinking (my imagination, of course, has run wild scenarios) and here are my stretch concepts:

- Your "new guy" (props for this one)

- She only has an hour or so for Mr. S on Wed afternoon and meets him at her hotel with the intention of no physical but has a change of heart when she sees him and after a half hour or so plus a glass of red wine decides she is down to fuck. They go a round or (he was promised two rounds) and then he's out of there and she prepares to go over to Mr. M's place.

- She gets to Mr. M's place and the guys have already started the beers, and SW has already had a glass of wine or two (with Mr. S) so she is happy and relaxed and has told me she will see Mr. M for a hotwife reason, so perhaps she gets relaxed and with her intention of seducing Mr. M and the open conversation about her now in the hotwife lifestyle, the friend and Mr. M inquire deeper and things start to get randy and the guys challenge her to get naked, etc. and she ends up with MMF.

- She previously told Mr. S that she is disappointed the double date for Monday is cancelled and that she would still like him to plan something away from the hotel, as she figures she will feel too cooped up, stuck there because everything seems closed. He already said they could still plan to go to the friend's place on Monday night even without her girlfriend. Mr. S may well have told his friend about this sexy hotwife he is seeing on the side, and wants to show her off to his friend. If Mr. S is the sex-only mindset kind of guy we think he is, then there is a fair chance he may be thinking about putting on some level of show for his friend, and who knows where it may lead from there?

All of these scenarios work for me. Any other possibilities come to mind? Do share if you will.

[slenderfish]

When you say silence mode, do you just wait for her to bring it up or do you ask but she avoids?

We are new to this and learning about ourselves and each other.

She has been getting more consistent with sharing but really only does so in real time when she needs help with interpreting a text or in composing a text or working out a plan. She knows I'd rather be more in real time and therefore uses these times as a win-win which is kind of true.

Her normal process is to never share in real time (because it cramps her style, etc.), and that she'd rather keep almost everything to herself for some time (days even) and then share after the fact, to the degree that suits her, and I believe solely because I've been consistent in reminding her that if she does this in secret it's just an affair with permission which is not the arrangement. As expected, she is getting more used to the concept of sharing, but there is a lot of improvement to achieve on this.

I also know that in the day or two preceding a meetup, she naturally gets all up in her head, trying to manage the inner conflict of values and her self-image. This cycle (it's only the second cycle of true hotwifing) seems to be going better on that.

Today will tell a lot. She is effectively fully packed and ready to go. Her flight is mid-afternoon, so there is plenty of time for us to have conversations about the developing plans.

Yes, if she doesn't volunteer, I will ask her and will a) perhaps find out her plans, and b) ascertain the extent to which she is willing to share.

[Aureus]

Has she packed one of the buttplugs/is one missing from the set?

[afagehi7]

Fish,

1. It seems entirely plausible that SW is entertained by both Mr. S and Mr. M. Would she entertain them both or is it an one or the other situation?

I firmly believe that Mr. M doesn't realize she intends to give him pussy. He would have her over if he knew such was a strong possibility. He doesn't want her over because no guys want a female just hanging around during guy time unless sex is involved. If he knew she would be putting out he'd certainly have her over. Maybe he's thinking it's too good to be true?

2. What are the odds of an anal adventure? We haven't heard much about the "training" and toys you introduced.

3. Have you made any progress on finding out what her attraction to Mr. M is?

[54321]

I also kindly reminded her not to overlook the man standing in front of her, with his desires and needs. It took her a minute to readjust her morning plans but she did so and we had a satisfying short encounter, mutual orgasms, etc. She asked for us to go "old school" and have it just be about us, between us, and leave the concept of another man out of this morning's intimacy.

That's nice

54321

[slenderfish]

Has she packed one of the buttplugs/is one missing from the set?

She went out for morning coffee so I made a quick look (I also did this yesterday while she was organizing) and was not able to see anything conclusive one way or another.

I'd also previously looked to ascertain the location she put that set after I presented it to her, for the obvious reason of monitoring whether they might ever by moved around for any purpose, but was not able to find them.

So I got nothing on this.

My plan at this point is to ask her outright, at some point between now and when I take her to the airport in a few hours.

[slenderfish]

Fish,

1. It seems entirely plausible that SW is entertained by both Mr. S and Mr. M. Would she entertain them both or is it an one or the other situation?

I firmly believe that Mr. M doesn't realize she intends to give him pussy. He would have her over if he knew such was a strong possibility. He doesn't want her over because no guys want a female just hanging around during guy time unless sex is involved. If he knew she would be putting out he'd certainly have her over. Maybe he's thinking it's too good to be true?

2. What are the odds of an anal adventure? We haven't heard much about the "training" and toys you introduced.

3. Have you made any progress on finding out what her attraction to Mr. M is?

A1. I think her preferred plan (if she can pull it off) at this point is a) Mr. M on Wed and b) Mr. S on Monday and/or Tuesday. This is what she asked me to help accomplish with the texts from yesterday morning.

A2. She has remained fully standoffish with respect to anything anal or anal conversation. But I have been teasing it in a bit when I can, without it being obtuse (pun intended).

A3. She has a history with Mr. M (affair with him for a couple of years starting when she was around 26 yrs old) and has kept in touch with him. She (as women sometimes do) kept in touch back with him and assumed it is a true platonic friendship, that he stays in touch solely because of of his loyal friendship. Of course I know there is big dose of "I've been there and it's possible I might get back in there so why not keep in touch?" and she denied it until she recently lobbed the phone sex at him and he was immediately into it. She now believes me that he is open to being "back in" when she gives the correct hint or invitation, assuming he is in a place (mentally) to do so. But to answer your question more directly, I believe her ego is driving this one. Mr. M is dating a much younger (18 yrs younger) woman (compared to Mr. M) and is put off that he didn't proffer himself as her hotwife stud. She originally thought he might do so when she first mentioned it to him in late August and they continued the discussions into early September (and have continued ever since), but he did not. She chuckled at the time that she would have rejected him anyway (not aged well, etc.). But she since found out from sources not Mr. M that a) his wife filed for divorce b) he has his own place and c) he has this much-younger girlfriend. He is presenting himself as this friend whom she can talk all about her hotwife stuff but he never mentioned his own stuff? So she is a bit pissed (mostly her ego) at this, and now has a bit of a desire to prove she can lure him into bed despite his professed commitment to the girlfriend. She already tested it with the phone sex, so it's ready for the real thing when she decides, if she can get him in the right circumstance.

Mr. M is an interesting subject because he was the first hotwife dabble that I attempted (total fail) to guide SW into around six years ago. She has always defended his pure friendship and that she would "never" go there anyway. I always observed a certain energy and his ongoing willingness to be secretive about SW with respect to his regular life, that it's still like their affair from way back when, but just not much in-person and also no physical stuff. And after the total-fail hotwife effort, she resumed contact with him but in a very hidden and secret way, and then (inevitably) stumbled and got found out. It was a big mess.

Given our history (as noted above) and after I tried to get her to realize that I'm not a jealous type, but rather am seriously averse to being "made the fool" I told her she should test it out, that she is always free to communicate with him (phone or in person) as long as it doesn't fall within what someone outside of our marriage would consider furtive or secretive. So beginning about four years ago, she resumed contact with him and has been consistent in not attempting to hide it, and generally (and appropriately) mentioning it before or after fact.

I'll also remind that the night I came home and she was having phone sex with him, she said it was a sudden change in conversation with him (after 120 min of regular talking) when she realized I'd come home, that it was just for me. I'm still not convinced, and we may never know. But I will observe that she has, to a great degree, moved more over to the place where she is in contact with him in a much bigger way than she tells me at the time. It comes out in later conversations, and when I ask her, she knows better than to fib. At this point, she has had at least two long (over an hour) phone calls with him and not mentioned these to me.

The most recent one was yesterday. Have a look at my next posting below, where I'll go deeper into this one.

[slenderfish]

More on Mr. M. Not sure if this is worth mentioning, but it's been nagging at me even after I mentioned it to SW last night, and there's this continuing weird energy this morning from SW that I can't quite get my head around to understand it.

Let's start with my request to SW, yesterday first thing in the morning when I saw her, to have a dinner date because it's the last night "for us" here where we live, before she travels for eight nights during which time we may not get much relaxed alone time together. She readily agreed, said it's a great idea, etc. She had some errands to do, picking up dry cleaning, etc. and had budgeted her plan to get most of her packing completed during the day. And off we went, each on our own programs.

I don't think she knows I've deduced this, but yesterday just after lunch she spent over an hour on the phone with him, while in her car in our driveway. I put two and two together because she had taken our dog to a vet appointment and at around 12:30 I heard her car pull up, and as usual the dog came bounding into the house. But no SW following. I didn't think anything of it, figuring she had another errand or something. But I was finishing my lunch about 15 min later and went into the garage to throw something away, and heard the idling of a car in the driveway (her car). Again, I expected her to enter the house within a minute or two but about a half hour later I realized she had not come in, so I popped my ear into the garage and her car remained idling. She did come in not too long after that, but was definitely over an hour since the dog came home. I laughingly observed to SW that I was wondering if the dog had taken the bus home on her own, and SW gave a nervous chuckle.

The day went on and at around 5:30 SW asked where I might want to do our dinner. I said I was open an flexible, if there is a place she prefers we can go there. I said I was wrapping up my workday and would the shower, etc. and be ready by 6:30. She said she is super hungry, having pretty much eaten nothing all day, and would prefer to accelerate that as much as possible.

I was ready before 6:30 and asked her if she was ready. She said that she can't go after all, that she must focus on packing, etc.

I didn't mention anything about any long phone call with Mr. M or anyone earlier, but I did reply:

"We had a firm dinner date planned and agreed. It was important to me, important enough to schedule with you in advance. Apparently other things today ate up your time and now those things have proven to be more important than spending time with me, resulting in your breaking our date plan."

She of course hadn't seen it that way, and kind of stumbled over her reply. I said:

"If you look back at the totality of the day, if there was something you spent an extra hour or so with, outside of your original plan, then that thing stole the time we should have had for our dinner date."

She then said, "Fine, I'll go to dinner with you and just pack my bags after, into the wee hours of the morning."

Of course I wasn't going to press her to do that, and she and I both knew it even as it came out of her mouth.

She then started something about "If you want a hotwife then you have to be more flexible and understanding."

I said "No, the marriage is paramount and although you are doing the hotwife for me at one level, you are also doing it for you at another level, and I want you to remember that this is not a cuckold thing, where I'm going to agree to all manner of slights that may grow into other things. I'm the husband and pulling the big train we know as SW (as well as her and my extended families to a great degree, and irrespective of hotwifing) and as such I remain tall and proud and insistent on the respect and position that I've more than earned."

So I went out and got a takeout salad that she specified and brought it back to her, and then went and did some of my own errands and had dinner along the way by myself.

She has had some calls and texts from her suitors and has not shared any with me as of this moment. To be honest, I have no idea her plans for Wednesday (whether with Mr. S or Mr. M or ???) at this point.

I observed to her this morning that she has not communicated any updates on her trip to me, for example (and at the very least), has she established her timing for the airport departure? If she still is planning on my driving her, she needs to let me know the timing so I can clear conflicts or she can hire a taxi if I have any immovable conflict in my business day. Obviously, there was the other elephants standing in the corner during this exchange, but I figured I'll wait to see if she mentions any other updates on her own volition.

We are leaving for the airport in 90 minutes. It's presently my plan to ask all the questions before we get into the car, as follows:

- Do you have any texts or phone calls from the past couple of days that you may share with me to supply me with some of my side of the hotwife benefits?

- Is there any reason I had to ask for you to share these (any reason why you wouldn't share them and apparently are only doing so when asked)?

- Have you developed a final plan/schedule/commitment for Wednesday?

Let's remember that I offered my usual spot in bed Wednesday night at the hotel to SW and her Mr. S as an enhanced hotwife encounter, in that I'll be in the same city and will be able to see her shortly after (either immediately that night, or first thing in the morning, or early afternoon at Thanksgiving dinner with the family) rather than waiting for day or days for her to return home like we did in October). She at the time had latched onto it and said "yes, then you can have your proper reclaim" and this theme and conversation continued until two days ago, when she started her negative thinking about Mr. S for Wednesday.

My point here is if she is not doing hotwife stuff at the hotel on Wednesday night as offered and accepted, then wouldn't we fall back to our normal pattern? If she is instead going to Mr. M's place to hang out and have a glass of wine with his buddy, that's perfectly okay but it doesn't keep me from checking into my hotel room, does it?

I have a feeling it is important at this point to assert myself.

Any thoughts on this specific point? I have 90 minutes.

[samlowen]

It makes sense to me to fall back to the normal pattern.

[afagehi7]

Don't know if you're going to see this in time. I would just ride the wave this last time. Let her do it her way and from the point you return from holiday, assert yourself and, if it does not work, time to cut off hotwifing for the present and immediate future. It's too close to DDay to start making demands at this point.

Just what I would do and I certainly wouldn't let it continue this way. She had her first time last trip and now this one. She's eased into it and now it's time to decide on boundaries moving forward.

Perhaps suggest she pack her plugs just in case butt playfully (pun intended).

We'd all like to know about the Mr. M fiasco from 6 years ago. I don't remember reading about this. After all you'll have some free time later.

[happystrife]

I’d stick to the plan and let her do her thing / let her have her space. Maybe something will change. but also let her know you’re happy to check in with her if she’d prefer given the change of plans. but clearly no right or wrong answer here lol.

[slenderfish]

Thanks for the thoughts. SW running late (a usual) so we're off to the airport.

I'll update later today.

[regular3]

What I like reading is your knowledge of your wife's thought patterns. You obviously know her really well and think about her constantly, whether from a hotwifing scenario or just the fact she is the love of your life. You are also doing a really good job keeping a leash on things. It might appear be a really long leash but as your final evening conversation went, it can be reigned in pretty quickly as a reminder of the core business of hotwifing being for both of you. My meaning too is the leash is a metaphor for your marriage, not an ownership thing. By all accounts you have a well balanced, loving relationship.

[superb101]

I just wonder if there is anyone else who feels like there is a WHOLE lot more going on with SW than she is openly discussing???? Just seems like there is an entirely different side she is hiding...like sitting in the driveway for an HOUR talking on the phone with the engine running. Maybe Im just paranoid!

[slenderfish]

Communication is key! SW pulled a trump card on me, and when she finally was ready to talk, it was worth it.

This answers just about everything.

Apparently her tiring of Mr. S has reached its zenith. She remains open and willing to see him early next week as per their original plan, but she said that by now he has shown his style and won't be a long-term solution. She also reiterated that she won't be traveling to her hometown area again until next Spring, so Mr. S is pretty much done after this cycle. If he is able to change that between now and then, all well and good.

But SW now has an opportunity to refocus on a line of social introductions that may yield a better result. As such, she wants to pursue it. Read on.

She has been on the phone with Mr. M quite a bit, and I do agree it's not fully transparent what they do talk about, but I suppose it'll continue anyway. He is no level of threat. His soon-to-be-ex-wife is gonna clean his clock, financially. He hasn't aged well. If SW wants to throw him a mercy fuck to boost her ego, then she should do it. And that's presently her plan.

She wants to finagle her way into the guys' night at Mr. M's place, and hopefully tempt him into the bedroom to prove that he's not so "into" his younger girlfriend that he would pass up an opportunity to turn back time to when he was younger and she was younger, and they both were hot for each other.

At the same time, his friend Mr. R (according to Mr. M who also knows all about SW's hotwifing) is young, handsome, rugged, and just broke up with his girlfriend. It almost seems to me that Mr. M is tempting SW to make a change over to this Mr. R. SW is curious and interested, enough to doll it up and go over to meet them, to make an impression.

She is ready to bring an extra hotel room key for this purpose, so that if she does not see a path with Mr. M (and if Mr. R is everything promised), she can re-orient her target as Mr. R and can quietly slip him the hotel room key and ask him to subtly follow her over there after giving her 30 minutes head start "to get ready" etc.

So the answer to my question about taking back the hotel room that I'd offered up for hotwife action, is that she plans on hotwifing on Wed night in any case, if she can make it happen, and needs the hotel room to be free for one of the likely outcomes.

She also said that she now knows that if given sufficient physical (body) and mental (head) space from me, she is able to detach and reorient herself into this sexy hotwife mode and can enjoy it more. I guess I'll describe it for this purpose as an alter-ego mode. She said that arriving in the hotel and checking in by herself, then waking up in the morning and treating herself to a slow start in the morning and a hair appointment in the afternoon, gets her into this hotwife mindset wherein she can take charge and overpower the man's desires. She is also looking forward (and probably at this point needs) a bit of time by herself after the fact to transition back to the loving wife (sister, daughter, etc.). Therefore, the plan for Tuesday night (tonight), Wednesday morning, Wednesday night, and Thursday morning all follow this pattern and presently are the minimum time frames for her to make it happen in the way most comfortable for her.

She also said that I should clear some space in my voicemail so that she can leave me a hot recap of anything that happens/happened. That it's the best she can offer at this point (e.g. no images or video). But in any case she will sent text messages as she is able.

I thanked her for being clear on her intentions and for sharing with me. I also said that just this level of commitment, to making Wednesday night work out, is already a huge gift and that if nothing pans out I'm happy in any case because she has clearly made another mental leap at this point.

It's no longer "if" but when and whom.

I told her that one of the primary impediments to good hotwifing is finding the right guy. Glad she is motivated to be on the hunt for him.

I wonder if the adage about kissing (fucking) a lot of frogs before finding the prince holds true here.

[CuriousOne36]

Maybe it will turn out similar to the phone sex except mr. m will be forcing SW’s head down on mr. r’s young cock.

Any way can’t wait to her what happens.

Oh, and I wouldn’t give her a choice of when you reclaim.

[slenderfish]

I just wonder if there is anyone else who feels like there is a WHOLE lot more going on with SW than she is openly discussing???? Just seems like there is an entirely different side she is hiding...like sitting in the driveway for an HOUR talking on the phone with the engine running. Maybe Im just paranoid!

To be honest, I've always considered SW could be (and perhaps has been) much more of a (shhhh, don't let anyone know I'm saying this....) ....slut.... than she lets on. And that has always turned me on.

I mean, when we met she was dating another guy, yet she gave me her number and didn't let on there was anything like that. She went out with me a couple of times, we went to her apartment and straight to bj after the first real dinner date, and she even let me slip it in for a little while even though she said she never does that (really?). Turns out she was moving to NYC that week and did so, and at that point it became clear to me she was tempting me to pursue her in NYC. I saw her here and there for over a year after that, with no clue she had moved to NYC with her boyfriend. But I learned she was a) hot; b) used sex as a tool/weapon to keep a man (me) interested; and c) responds to material things, gifts of designer items (handbags, shoes, jeans, sunglasses, cool workout gear, etc.). She has been pretty consistent in this respect, all these years.

She was single until we married, in her 30's. Never a marriage or serious proposal prior to that. She moved to NYC to be Carrie Bradshaw (from Sex and the City). Literally. And so she did. She dated around, earned good money but spent it all on clothes shoes bags etc and working out. I guess in some ways I ended up being her "Big" from the show. But instead of moving to Paris she moved west.

And I accept that I like it. I had similar feelings back when I went a bit on the wild side and dated a stripper (very short time frame on that). So now I have the wild feelings and the fun and the hot wife who is now connecting (reconnecting?) with her slutty side, and who is otherwise always lovely and beloved by friends and family.

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Are you a lady in the street and freak in the sheets?
A lady in the streets and freak in the sheets is that babe who looks so presentable to the outside world, but totally cuts loose when she’s in the bedroom.

She gets wild and does sexual stuff guys only fantasize about, but you’d never think she’s such a ‘bad babe’ by just looking at her
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I mean, I'm really a heart a dirty dog and am okay with it. I'm shallow and went for the pretty and sexy blonde. I own it. I am not changing SW but I do believe it is an easy path for her to go down, once she is okay with it in her mind, especially now that it's clear that I'm not going to go bonkers and divorce her such that her material lifestyle is at risk. So far that's what it seems like we're seeing. And I'm quite gratified that these impressions about her are seemingly accurate, finally after all these years.

And I'll also be personally satisfied if and when she revisits the fucking with Mr. M because I always knew it was sitting right there for her, waiting to fall into place. Satisfied to have been right about that. Pat my own back. I've gone back and viewed the phone sex video of her with Mr. M from a couple of weeks ago, and listened for nuances and things, and there is one phrase that stands out to me, when she says to him (in reference to his present "younger" girlfriend) the following (I'll set it up by noting she is supposedly sitting on Mr. M's face and jerking him off with her hand while the girlfriend is sucking his cock):

"She's nobody, she's JV (e.g. "junior varsity"), I know what you need" to which Mr M says "Show her how to do it."

Pretty hot stuff. This comes from somewhere....

[slenderfish]

Maybe it will turn out similar to the phone sex except mr. m will be forcing SW’s head down on mr. r’s young cock.

Any way can’t wait to her what happens.

Oh, and I wouldn’t give her a choice of when you reclaim.

If I can drop this hint when we speak later tonight or tomorrow, I'll grant her extra points if she accomplishes either of the following:

- Fuck both the guys (separately) in the same night

- Fuck both guys (together)

I've already developed the lead-in conversation for her. It starts with a conversation about implants (I gotta give original credit on this one to Mr. B) and how she is contemplating swapping her saline for silicone, for better shape, more natural hang when braless, and pliability. Then she takes them out for show and tell. And it goes from there....

But I have to find an opportunity to communicate this to her such that she takes it in the spirit it's offered, rather than having it backfire. And there will be limited number of chances to do this.

As for reclaiming, I've already told her that I'll take her into a bathroom or spare room at her sister's house on Thursday when she arrives for the big Thanksgiving dinner.

[whenwillshe]

Wow
Wednesday will be a long day but there will be plenty to be thankful for
Sounds like SW will get more stuffing than the turkey

[CuriousOne36]

As for reclaiming, I've already told her that I'll take her into a bathroom or spare room at her sister's house on Thursday when she arrives for the big Thanksgiving dinner.

NICE!

I love it.

If I’m ever as lucky as you, I’d want to be the same way. Like you the cuckold aspect of this lifestyle doesn’t do it for me. I don’t mind taking a back seat and letting someone else drive for awhile but I’m taking the wheel back after “trip”.

My wife has a submissive side. I think yours might as well. Your post about when you were telling her about “a bull” telling her to do things got her very worked up according to the post. I’ve told my wife scenarios of losing her due to a wager and it worked her up. She had lost some simple wagers to me and had to be my sex slave which worked well. Any way I digress. If your interested PM me I’d love to run some of my situation by you to see what you think.

Can’t wait to read what happens with your situation over thanksgiving.

[BallSpanking]

I think she is doing just fine without guidance. You wanted her to take charge of her sexuality, here's her chance to experience that freedom. If she is assuming a more sexual persona, my guess is she will prefer Mr R, and leave Mr M for back-up, later, or some other time ... At best, a consolation prize (and by the sounds of it, rather uninspiring).

If she is still in her sexual power persona, she can have her way with Mr S, and toss him afterward.
In fact, it would serve him right if SW fucked and sucked the living daylights out of him, and then give him the cold shoulder. He would definitely be calling her for an encore, especially if she is as wild as she wants to be.
Then she can dump him, if she wants ... or keep him on a shorter leash.

[slenderfish]

SW called me tonight before retiring.

Apparently Mr. S sent the best possible text. SW called it the equivalent of a "hail Mary" text that may have hit its mark.

She has been putting off Mr. S in hopes that Mr. M will come through with a solid confirm for Wed night.

By way of background, she did send the text I'd suggested regarding not feeling connected to Mr. S in light of the weeks since she last saw him, etc. She also added that there is Covid concerns, our injured dog, etc. and she may not be able to get together on Wednesday after all.

He replied correctly on all points, and even took responsibility for his apparent inattentiveness even though he did note that he prefers live phone conversations vs. text messages.

SW said she now feels conflicted. Thinks she should see him on Wed after all.

I suggested she continue developing both lines and continue to keep Mr. S on hold until she decides whether or not she will be joining up with Mr. M and Mr. R instead.

She agreed. She is in any case still planning to see Mr. S on Monday. So the only question at this point is what she will do tomorrow.

I actually am presently rooting for Mr. S. She read his text and I'm impressed. Also because he truly does want to see SW and his desire and fondness does read through his text message.

Mr. M is being a "little pussy boy" as SW calls him. He was that way with his wife (when he was together with her) and now is acting the same way with this new girlfriend. SW wants to fuck him and put him in his place, reminding him of what he is missing, and also to achieve a one-up on the younger girlfriend. But Mr. M has not yet been willing to confirm with SW that she is invited to his place, again because he's being a little pussy boy, afraid of what his girlfriend might say if she found out that a woman was with the guys on Wed night.

I also am rooting for Mr. S for Wed night because it's more of a sure thing for SW. I'd offered up Wed night, and my place in the hotel room bed with SW, so that she can get properly fucked by Mr. S. I stand by that suggestion and offer. It was my idea, so I have a proprietary interest in that succeeding.

SW is now happier because all the guys are interested in her company. And Mr. S has clearly expressed his desire.

[afagehi7]

Go for the sure thing. Maybe schedule mr s earlier or later so she could still entertain mr m if it falls into place? She could always get rid of Mr s after saying that she has to talk to you about tomorrow's dinner plans. She could even cancel him saying that you showed up early to surprise her but are leaving Friday?

Mr Ms friend and the possibility that she'd slip him her room key is really hot but mr m is seeming like a long shot. Too many moving parts. But dayum, imagine how hot it would be when the friend said he had to leave and showed mr m the hotel room key. His jaw would hit the floor. Hot but long shot. She's not forward enough to pull it off.tge friend would have to be persuing her which is unlikely because if anything he won't want to jeapordize his friendship. Bros before hoes seems to describe this whole situation.

After all, mr m could be her next conquest.

If she made it clear that she was up to being a party favor for mr m and maybe his friend she'd get the invite but she's obviously not forward enough or ready to take this step into her slutty alterego. We need a name for her alter ego...maybe SS (slender slut)? Hahahaha. Her getting herself into the appropriate head space as you described does explain some things but not others. I'm sure that everything is going to be clear in the next couple of weeks when boundaries are discussed.

We're all on the edge here waiting to see what happens. I'll certainly be checking in while cooking tomorrow.

[Aureus]

Have you seen what she packed this time? any special outfits? Lingerie? Condoms? Lube? toys/the plugs?