Wife and friend behave like a couple in pub - the start

[ocean]

You all very kind, but as I said earlier, we only did what you guys would have done, Dawn on a crusade, I’ve filled a vacancy and Shelley is out of a nightmare. I like to think someone would do a kindness for my kids.

In the mean time I eventually saw one builder last night who was only interested in rebuilding the old wall. No flare, no vision and not what I want and half a job. 3 more quotes to get to knock down that other half of the ugly monolith and see what wonderful ideas are to be put forward to replace it. I also have to deal with my insurance company and the vans insurers, I hope she doesn’t poke the bear too much.

This morning, Saturday 11am the cat dragged something in, it kissed me on the cheek, slipped upstairs, showered and is currently snoring in bed. Oh yes, she does snore. I’m sure we will get a blow by blow update.

2nd builder turned up this morning at 11.30, suggested pull down the other wall and rebuild exactly same in different brick. Apparently, the walls are over 30 years old and the same brick (colour) is almost impossible to get to match, which is what I was hoping to hear, better news. Cost? I need to sit down.
Here’s a little quiz? Have a guesstimate of how much the quotes are? Info - total of 40 x 6 feet, single skin brick wall with two 4 foot wooden gates in the middle. Answers on a post card.

Michael (son) came round to have a laugh at my predicament, nice.
However, Nuala got in at 7am this morning the worse for wear - a girls night in Brighton. I’ll get Dawn on the case. I told him mum was in bed after having a very bad night, (or perhaps good night). Time for tea.

More to follow.

[skoot1958]

It not the cost it what the customer will pay, value costing, insurance job add 25%

10k

[ocean]

1st quote. £41k. I think he goes to Edinburgh Fringe

[ResponsibullCummings]

If the brick can't be matched insuranance should be covering the full cost I would expect.

[venus-can99]

Thanks for the wonderful update Mark. Looking forward to details on Dawn’s night with Kit.

[boobman987]

Thanks for the wonderful update Mark. Looking forward to details on Dawn’s night with Kit.

Hear, hear, I’m with Venus on this. I’m also looking forward to Dawn’s write up of Nuala’s Brighton exploits.

[skoot1958]

And Friday night with Kit

[ocean]

Dawn. Where to start. Firstly I got out of bed around 2pm Saturday, caught up some sleep and shake a little bit of a buzz in my head from over-indulging.

Mark and I were having a bit of us-time lunch for a change when Kit rang. Mark was OK with me taking the call. Kit wanted to meet up, also to discuss a couple of business opportunities. We arranged to meet at a really lovely lodge/restaurant somewhere westish of Petersfield, it was as easy for him travelling from Winchester. He said there'd be a couple of friends to do with some business, so be decent, or maybe not.

Back in the office, I updated my secretary about the Shelley business and got the ball rolling with Shelley’s case, letters to fire the starting gun. Then slipped away home to change around 4.30.
What to wear. I thought I want to feel sexy, but if there were strangers there?? I opted for a lovely black with small gold patterned, pleated skirt, knee length and swirly. On top, a black long sleeve, no collar, cross over blouse. No buttons just tucked into my waistband. It was a kind of semi sheer material, my nipples made themselves conspicuous and not just to see. Ah well. I felt good. Black heels, nice watch and jewellery, perfume. Not an easy place to find apparently so address in the sat nav and off we go.

Kit had obviously been here before (I’m sworn to secrecy of where it is, it is a hidden gem) tucked out of the way. It was like a mountain cabin type boutique hotel, lovely staff and soo cosy. Loved it, definitely bringing Mark here. Kit’s colleague's were there, the land agent guy I’d met before and his strangest companion. She wore a gold shimmery micro dress with her arse hanging out one end and her tits the other, and they weren’t all hers, sorry bitchy. Mark would have loved her, but no class whatsoever, and thick as a plank too. All I can imagine is she must be an amazing fuck. The other guy was a tall well built guy called Christopher, he said his father was Caribbean and mother was white, so does that make him brown? I asked and he said Black. That’s cleared up. Really nice guy and a looker. But; his companion, an attractive woman around my age (all touchy feely), wearing a slightly longer dark green, strappy mini dress, obviously a competition as to who could show the most tit, - turns out to be Kit’s wife’s sister. Weird and worrying. Do I have the meeting then head home? I did wonder if Kit was ‘acquainted’ with his SIL, for later. Both blonde, but were really as brunette as me. I told Kit I felt uncomfortable. I cannot afford a scandal, either domestically or professionally, if his wife finds out via SIL. He said it’s not a problem. Chris has been seeing her for 3 months on and off and neither her husband nor Kit’s wife are aware as they don’t speak.

We went from the subdued lighting of the reception lounge into the harsher lighting of the bar. Standing in the glare I might as well have been topless. Chris was very kind and paid me quite bit of attention which I lapped up, my nipples letting me down badly, which he commented on. I responded by saying ‘Ditto,’ and glanced at the front of his beige trousers. Yes, we were going to be friends. We went into dinner after everyone had scrutinised my tits. At least mine were subtly covered - and stood up for themselves without the help of a surgeon.

The meal was fantastic and the evening actually flowed. Business talk dominated - Kit and Chris are about to buy a number of large parcels of land to build houses, assisted by Labours scramble to build etc. hence the Land scout guy’s involvement. It’s a long term venture, all been kept quiet. It needed very discrete and quick handling, in order to steal the march on other developers. Could our firm handle the legals, speed? 'Yes. It’s specialist commercial, but Yes, I would get our specialist team would be involved. Everything would be catered for with utmost discretion'. I didn’t admit it, it’s bigger than I could handle, but we did have people who could do this in London. Both bloody women looked surprised that I was actually an educated solicitor and not a bloody bimbo like them. Give me strength. The conversation went onto other aspects I wasn't involved in.

We were staying over, except land guy and titsy, but my cat’s out of the bag. The rooms were seriously olde worlde and comfortable, again lovely. We took more wine up with us and I tried to have a half serious conversation with Kit about the project but also my concerns about his family arrangements. He sat on the bed, pulled the front of my blouse apart like curtains and kissed my boobs while he slipped both hands under the back of my skirt to firmly grip and pull apart the cheeks of my backside, opening my pussy. So goood and so wet. He admitted he still got a huge buzz over me not wearing underwear. His clothes, my clothes - on the floor. For the next 2 hours, we worked up a sweat. He is good and inventive. He said I’m hot and adventurous. He commented I’d got on with Chris, who clearly liked me. Hmm. Chris was a player, who I might find interesting. He could text and invite him over if I liked? Not tonight. ‘What about you and your sister in law, ey?’ He admitted he had. I bloody knew it. Then told me; him, her; and Chris. Not seen that coming.

I was astride him and squeezing him with my pussy, which I called my cunt - I swear he grew another inch, him almost pulping my nipples. He asked if I had any kinks I’d admit to? I told him about Ray and me - Mark - Tony. I said he’d love Ray, dusky Indian beauty, randy as fuck and wild.That’s as far as I got. He was actually shocked, turned me over and proceeded to fuck me doggy, very hard indeed. Don’t ask how many orgasms tonight. I lost count but I was covered in sticky come, him insisting on coating my belly, chest and backside, as well as pussy and mouth. I know he takes a pill but he must have a huge come reservoir somewhere. I needed a shower before I could drift off to sleep.

I woke with a nipple being beautifully sucked and fingers sliding over my pussy. So, a gentle good-morning fuck, shower, breakfast. Despite my hangover.
There was something else - he’d kept it back, but in his main business realm he is arranging a C-level meeting and presentation to propose several firms offering various services to his colleagues, in my case legal, HR, conveyancing etc., there were other different areas of service from other companies at a formal presentation. A Southampton hotel in a few weeks time.

Two things, 1) There’s no two firms in the same profession/industry, so no clash of company offerings,
2) Would Mark like to present his firm’s services? My mouth was full of scrambled egg, which nearly re-appeared. Oh yes he’d checked us both out alright, personally, Companies House, everything. He said, ‘Dawn, It’s business, for him, for us. You two would both benefit personally’. ‘He need, and frankly must never know about us. Ask him’. I said I’d give it some thought. Breakfast finished, still in a daze we kissed and groped good bye and I drove home in the pissing rain, the ibuprofen was kicking in.

A quiet Saturday - and the usual Sunday morning swimming at the local swimming baths. A few lengths to get rid of the toxins and keep the pecs tight.

Mark and I have a bit to talk about, oh and now there’s Nuala’s antics. That’ll be fun.

[skoot1958]

Dawn great update, Kit sound was wild as you and Ray

Would you play with Chris, Kit and SIL sound like it could be fun, maybe you would be popping SIL cherry

Mark will enjoy watch Kit at the presentation, I assume Phillip will also have to attend, that could be interesting

[venus-can99]

WoW Dawn - great to hear your (s)exciting evening with Kit, Chris, SIL, titsy and the developer. Hope the presentation with Mark (services) and your own firm's at Southhampton goes well !

[54321]

and now there’s Nuala’s antics. That’ll be fun.

Always good to end on a cliffhanger...

54321

[Florgasm]

The multi partner evening deserves a video upload to simultaneously watch different interactions

[Freemans892]

I wonder if Kit and his wife are not as bad as he makes out. Some hotwives don’t want to play with married men, and some female affair partners don’t want to touch a man in a healthy relationship. I wonder if Kit has put up a smokescreen to protect his relationship with his wife. Clearly, Kit was shocked and turned on about hearing Dawn and Mark play with another couple. I think part of the shock was that Kit realised he was playing with a swinger wife, not your traditional affair partner (AP).

Kit has been trying to work out Mark because, after Dawn’s first night with Kit, Kit and Dawn discussed, “Was I going to tell my husband? … ‘It won’t trouble him. Do you want me to?” Dawn mentioned to Kit that she’s in her first marriage, all is going well and allowing a little latitude with each other (Dawn and Mark) has helped. The reason why I mention this is Kit has sent an invite to Mark via you to present his business to like-minded C-level members at a Southampton hotel in a few weeks. In a traditional affair arrangement, the spouse will keep the AP and spouse as far apart as possible. Clearly, Kit is fishing. My recommendation is for:
- Dawn to mention to Kit before the presentation that Mark has a married lover/girlfriend that he sees once a fortnight and this arrangement allows me to have some flexibility.
- Mark met his married lover through his business network.
- Clearly, Mark and I make our marriage the number one priority.
- We enjoy the current arrangement.
- Mark and I both like ongoing external relationships, as long as the other partner doesn’t get too clingy.
- Just say to Kit, I know Michelle exists but I don’t know who she is and this should keep Kit happy. What I do know is that Michelle is intelligent and classy and Mark picked well.
- At the end of the day, we are just a couple with a high sex drive and are a bit kinky. For example, Mark’s loves his women (his wife and girlfriend) not wear underwear when they are out and show off some skin.

The reason for my recommendation is that it will put Kit more at ease if Mark and Kit happen to get talking to each other, and Kit will treat Mark with more respect, as he has own fun as well. In addition, Kit will be confident that Mark will fit into the C-level get-together and not get too bent out of shape with his wife playing with other members. Kit will probably think that Mark may also like to have some fun with some of the female members. How knows, Kit may scheme an introduction or two for Mark.

Clearly, there is a tough selection criteria for this C-level club, which is: be a C-level executive or major business owner, be attractive and be open for some extramarital fun. Kit knew you were up for it and had a feeling so is Mark, based on previous discussions. James probably played a role was well. James did mention that the ‘C Club’ was “Quite select! James explained it was keeping the money and power in the family. Keeping a common interest and support for each other.”

Finally, it’s clear that Kit is setting things up for a foursome with Dawn, Kit, Chris and SIL. Slow and steady wins the race where everyone is fully onboard before hand.

[boobman987]

Thanks for such a detailed update Dawn. I really appreciated the description of your choice of clothing for this meeting. It turns out that your semi-sheer top becoming transparent in strong light was the right one as it put titsy and Kit’s SIL obvious tit exposure to shame.

I am a little concerned that Kit knew so much about Mark’s business because as far as I can remember you hadn’t mentioned Mark’s name or business to Kit. I wonder if he “deep dived” you by means of a private investigator?

The sounds of this Southampton meeting seems a perfect opportunity for your and Mark’s businesses. I presume that a senior representative from the London conveyancing arm will need to be present.

I think that despite Kit’s assurances that his wife and her sister do communicate. So to put your mind at rest why not question the SIL at a trip to the ladies or over coffee at Southampton? You can then judge for yourself whether the information you have is true, thus protecting your personal and business lives.

I am hoping for another update once Nuala and you have had a chance to talk.

[ocean]

Dawn:
Guys, Mark just showed me your concerns and comments. Please don’t worry;
I think we might be overthinking things, or of course I could be wrong. I’m told I have to respond.

Kit’s friend Chris was coming on strong, which I was actually enjoying and rather tempted, perhaps something with Kit and he going forward, but definitely not SIL. For one thing I don’t think she’s ‘the full shilling’ and probably volatile and definitely dangerous. She clearly didn’t like me anyway. If Kit wants to play that close to home without an arrangement with his wife, either good luck or he doesn’t care at home, just don’t involve me.

Kit is aware of who Mark is, haha we aren’t always at it you know, we do talk sometimes. Hence I know about his marriages and he knows about mine. Knowing the guy I have no doubt he’s checked Mark out, but Mark is so squeaky clean in business, tax etc. especially after seeing two of his friends businesses catch a cold with the taxman. And yes, Mark checks out all my ‘friends’; Companies House, gossip etc, he calls it reconnaissance. ‘Know your enemy’. Very Boys Own.

Again as lovers do, I told him about Ray, that certainly peaked his interest and I think about including Chris, Christ if I told him about Remi it would blow his mind. Mark would hate to be called a swinger, as our individual relationships are just that, and the only joint involvement is Ray and Tony. I haven’t mentioned the lovely Michelle. So as far as Kit is aware it’s us, Ray and a wonderful understanding husband, hers and mine. Especially as Cheryl is no longer on the scene; she and her husband are living under the same roof as her boyfriend - his friend, as a thruple. Don’t know how that works? her husband was always weak and wet.

Yes I do think Kit might want to involve and help Mark’s business, or you could be right and he’s just nosing around Mark. I have no doubt that Kit has involved me outside the bedroom, and in his two businesses, the main one being two plastic extrusion factories and some other tech firm, whatever that is, and now this iffy land purchase deal with Chris, as I suspect he thinks he has some form of control over me, as if?

Would Mark get involved in the C Club? He is at C-Level, he is the sole share holder of his own high value company, so he does qualify. But, do they want him?
I’ve told him I’d tell him all over dinner tonight. It would be his decision. His business is doing really well, does he need more, would he prosper from this venture? Maybe. Is there a risk? I think yes. That’s never caused him a problem. We will never be at risk as a couple. I would hate to lose my job, but it wouldn’t be the end of the world, we'd be very comfortable.
Southampton is an opportunity. James will be there, he’s my knight protector. I must arrange to see him!

I am touched you guys feel concern and appreciate the heads up. I’ll dig around about Nuala, we’re both intrigued.

[boobman987]

Thanks for the update and detailed explanation Dawn.

Sorry for being concerned but I was worried for you, your lovely relationships, Mark and his relationship. I hope it hasn’t dented your willingness to share your adventures from your viewpoint

Please accept my sincere apologies.

[ocean]

Hi Boo, Please don't apologise, it was so kind of you to help and I do appreciate it, and I know Mark does too, it makes us who we are. I feel so bad if I've upset you.
we're just going through the situations now and it's always good to have input from others, you may see something I missed. so many thanks.
I know you asked for some more photos, but I am told that when any are posted they go straight to google through the cloud, for ever and can be traced. So I am very reluctant. Sorry.
Once again a sincere thanks Dawn xx

[boobman987]

Hi Boo, Please don't apologise, it was so kind of you to help and I do appreciate it, and I know Mark does too, it makes us who we are. I feel so bad if I've upset you.
we're just going through the situations now and it's always good to have input from others, you may see something I missed. so many thanks.
I know you asked for some more photos, but I am told that when any are posted they go straight to google through the cloud, for ever and can be traced. So I am very reluctant. Sorry.
Once again a sincere thanks Dawn xx

Thanks Dawn, and you haven’t upset me at all.

I understand about the photos, so discretion is not posting any.

Thanks to you and Mark for posting your (s)exploits!

[Freemans892]

Hi Dawn,

So Cheryl, Dave (Cheryl’s husband), and Steve (Cheryl’s boyfriend) are now in a throuple. I’m assuming that Steve is separated from his wife and is in the process of getting a divorce? Did Steve’s wife find out about his affair with Cheryl, or did Steve want to have a separation? Based on Dawn’s feedback, it looks like Dave gets the spare bedroom.

As for Kit’s SIL, tell him I can’t afford the drama.

I would say that Mark is not a swinger, except for one event, Mark becomes a voyeur. Tony is more of a natural swinger. You and Mark fit more into the non-monogamy type of person, with individual relationships and one joint couple you play with. Kit and James are your traditional people who have affairs behind their spouse’s backs, so they wouldn’t know about ENM; their understanding would probably be either affairs or swinging. I guess you can tell Kit that you and Mark have a bit more relaxed attitude, and a “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” arrangement is allowed between both of you. What is most important is that everything must be discreet to protect Mark’s business, and nothing is done, in any shape or form, to humiliate Mark. You can mention that you feel that Mark casually catches up with someone when you are not around. This tells Kit that Mark is not a cuckold husband and could fit in nicely into the ‘C Club’.

If you and Mark are present at the’ C Club’, confirm with James and Kit that everything is above board. Mark does love to enjoy life and have fun, but he’s ‘squeaky clean in business’. By the way, Mark doesn’t need my help to network as long as there are interesting people to talk to.

Freemans892

[skoot1958]

Freemans892, good summary, not that our views of Mark and Dawns relationship is important, IMHO I think the value of the group is to share hard won experience and to support others so they know they’re are not the only one ones enjoying this life, I read recently in the US 4-7% are now ENM, the world is changing

Cheryl is the one I have concurrent for, if she is not on a group like this she will struggle to really understand the life style, BF split with wife, BF move in, Dave is pushed out, is a very possible outcome and one, maybe that’s what Cheryl wants maybe not, if she has no one to talked to then she will stumble along and maybe regret her decision in a few years

Dawn as Cheryl is a life long friend, maybe a chat would be helpful, get Cheryl to join this or other groups for support

I think Freeman covered all C club options, just see where it goes

as for photos, as OHW is behind a password system goggle should not be able to just pick up you photos, but they will get out, people will share them, no face, nothing that can identify you, backgrounds, like in your own home, hotel rooms are as safe as it can be

Dawn As for Kit an Chris, buy now I and sure Kit has discussed this with Chris the possibility of a 3sum, the things with a 3sum is it can be lots of fun as you know, one man after man both giving pleasure to you, or it can be a man’s power thing, where you are just the fuck buddy in the middle, split roast, DP etc, all can be fun

You know Kit and Chris will be next, why not be proactive and arrange for both of them to take you out

[54321]

but I am told that when any are posted they go straight to google through the cloud, for ever and can be traced.

It's something to do with additional information like time stamp, geographical location etc.
There are people on here, far more techy than I am, who will tell you how to clean your pix
of all data so that they are not traceable.

Or am I wrong? Perhaps some other OHW members could contribute on this one?

54321

[Yorkguy]

Good on you for sorting out the courier firm, sounds like Shelley was bullied both individually, and collectively by the firm. Ironic that what she thought was her worst day at work turns out to be life changing. I like the irony and also the fact that you were able and willing to equalise the odds for someone who was struggling.

Shame about Cheryl. I found the friend to bi lover transformation highly erotic.

[Yorkguy]

Good on you for sorting out the courier firm, sounds like Shelley was bullied both individually, and collectively by the firm. Ironic that what she thought was her worst day at work turns out to be life changing. I like the irony and also the fact that you were able and willing to equalise the odds for someone who was struggling.

Shame about Cheryl. I found the friend to bi lover transformation highly erotic.

[skoot1958]

54321, Da I am stupid, yes the photos you post could hold meta data about location etc, maybe one of the techs could tell use if that info is removed on upload, yes it is possible to strip that info before uploading

[boobman987]

54321, Da I am stupid, yes the photos you post could hold meta data about location etc, maybe one of the techs could tell use if that info is removed on upload, yes it is possible to strip that info before uploading

Hi Skoot,

See this post in the Hotties forum
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37104