It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[Chrislydi]

Whether everyone thinks it is so or not, submission is often used in the description of the act.

So as in one of the posts above...'it is an act of submission and worship.. it doesn’t mean you’re gay ir bi..it’s the ultimate submission to her sexuality.'

It is for me even as someone who hasn't or ever wanted to do it, the ultimate sign of acceptance of her actions, doing something that at least on the surface is so demeaning and humiliating, an admission that the other man has in effect taken your place in her bed for PIV sex and is now lording it and dominant over both of you. That he is all that she really now needs sexually, not withstanding her loving after care and real emotional connection that's left unchanged. For a submissive cuck it's an act of great LOVING and reclaiming so there are many facets to it and not just the perceived submissive part. I could and perhaps should qualify the point about him being all that she needs sexually as being more about symbolism than actual fact, as of course there will still be loving reclamation sex, and that won't ever fade completely, even if the way you go about it might in time alter substantially.

Exciting and thrilling as the prospect might be on some level, if you still have qualms about it, stick to your tried and tested and more natural approach of taking things in stages after consideration. There's no need to do it the first time and maybe never, if you remain uncomfortable. Never feel forced into anything by popular demand, it has to be a personal choice as it will psychologically change things perhaps permanently for both of you.

In.my opinion, psychologically there's a whole world of difference between having seconds and licking her cum filled pussy, and if you do it there's no reason why he should be in the same room or even house. There's no right or wrong answer just go with your own impulses and feelings, and don't get too caught up about it if you go ahead as it might be what you both want. Taking it in stages though is not wrong and might even be better.

Chris

[william70]

Basically what Chris is saying is...It's easier to take poison in small doses than all at once. But the results are the same.

[trecital]

A couple of things I'll mention.

Firstly, a page or two back w770 said "There was the one instance so far with Shawn where he pounded her so mercilessly that we had to resort to her giving me a handjob"
It would have been better, and more appropriate, if she'd insisted that it was your hand that was used. That way, you masturbating yourself, is more humiliating, in my opinion. Could you handle that?

Secondly, the talk of clean up. This is very hot, and, as others have said, probably the ultimate cuckold humiliation.

For me 'clean up' wasn't something that I knew I wanted beforehand. In fact, I never even knew it was something that people did.
In my case it started some time after we were having regular threesomes. I say 'threesomes', but I rarely ended up having PIV sex on those occasions. I just used to enjoy watching them.
One time, after her boyfriend had finished, she disconnected from him and then straddled my chest, facing me. I could feel her wetness on me, but quickly realised that what I could feel, mainly, was his spunk on my stomach. With her still sat on me I had no hesitation in moving my hand to my cock, and masturbating. I was looking at her face, and she was looking at mine. I couldn't prolong my masturbation for as long as I would have liked, lasting only a minute or so.
Days later I asked her about what she did. We had a bit of a conversation about it. Then, without me really thinking about it, I told her that I wanted her, at the next opportunity, to sit on my face immediately after he'd fucked her. She was a bit unsure, but I told her just to do it, and not hesitate.
So that's exactly what she did.
For me it just seemed a natural progression. I wanted her to wipe my face with the evidence of her infidelity.
The first time I was passive, and just laid there while she did it. Passive, except for masturbating, of course.
A few times later, and I started to lick. It just seemed the right thing to do.

So, w770, if you are at all hesitant about taking the initiative, and going down on Lana, after Sman/Shawn has just cum in her pussy, then have a word with Lana beforehand. Tell her that you would like her to sit on your face afterwards. Whether you lick or not, is up to you. But the symbolism is still there.

[FadermanL20]

In anticipation of SM's upcoming party, I thought I'd relate another story. In the 90's I worked at a company doing phone tech support. There were about a dozen of us, the rest of the company did sales. We had full timers and part timers. If you worked 4 hours on Saturday, they credited you for a full day. They'd usually schedule two people on Saturday morning.

N was a swinger lady who I often got paired with. She had an ok body, not a great face, but what made her sexy (to me) was her attitude and demeanor. She made it clear that she just loved sex. When we weren't taking calls, we'd talk. She was trying to recruit me into her swinger circle. If I'd known then what I knew now...

Any, one Saturday morning, I arrived about 15 minutes before starting time, got the lights on, and logged into our phone system, so that at 9 we'd start taking calls. Then I stepped outside to grab a smoke. I was close enough so that if the phones rang, I could get to our office to take the call. One of those 90's conversion vans pulled up and parked. They were a ways away, but I could see through the windshield. I could see some kind of activity inside, it looked like someone was dribbling a basketball. WTF is this?

About 3 minutes before 9, the side doors opened and I saw a pair of female legs come out. It was N, She was wearing a kind of cocktail dress, and not much else. As she walked towards me, she smiled, but didn't say anything. When we were about 5 feet apart, she stopped and opened her mouth. Holy crap, I thought. What is that in her mouth, is that what I think it is??

She closed her mouth and visibly swallowed. Then she winked at me and walked by. She went into the break room to get her coffee. Right then the phones started ringing.

We were fairly busy so I didn't get a chance to talk to her right away. But-She'd come from her swinger's party, some guys had given her a ride to work. She had been having sex most of the night, and her husband had already gone home, so she needed a ride. She blew the last guys in the van on her way to work.

To me, at the time, that was one of the sexiest things I'd ever seen.

[hubudig2]

As usual, there's so many different ways of thinking about it to fit however it turns you on.
Having a girl sit on your face could be seen as submissive, so could going down on her [missionary?].
You could argue that it depends whether you initiated the act or she did or told you to.
I went down on my girl after I cum in her, I considered that she might think less of me but then I thought "fuck it, she'll enjoy it", it's not even something I wanted to do, just something I wanted to experiment with for her pleasure.
Was it submissive? I don't think either of us thought so, she probably wouldn't have enjoyed it if she thought it was. I probably could've done it in a submissive way but I wasn't trying to convince anyone it was one way or the other, just engaging in a sexual act for the fun of it.
Not saying it's the same thing btw, just the closest experience I can relate to.
If you're horned up, I doubt you'll be weighing up the pros/cons/psychology of the situation and will do whatever turns you on in that moment.
I hope you both enjoy whatever you choose to do, without any regrets either way.

[SixInchDick]

I’ve only ever eaten a creampie one time. It was my own mess and it was a little over 5 years ago. My wife was possibly 7 months pregnant at the time. Obviously not quite the same situation but it was still a big turn on for me for a few years after that. I was so glad I did it, but I haven’t gained the courage to do it again. I don’t get to cum in my wife too often (she’s not on birth control) but when I do, I chicken out. To be honest, it wasn’t even a bad experience at all. Then again, I’m not a stud like SuperDildoMan, nor do I fuck my wife multiple times in a given session. So just one average load from an average penis.

[Aynsley]

Look w770.
You can tell Lana she’s inspired a new TV Show.

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/stat ... rFuRSL8rzQ

(although I think what you 2 have going on would get
far higher ratings )

[w770]

I tried to sleep it off, but that was unsuccessful in every way, as I woke up with a giant erection. Got swamped with a ton of emergency client matters for work even though it was supposed to be a day off, so I'll try and respond to all of your comments and suggestions later this afternoon. A bit difficult working with a hard on that won't quit though. I'm feeling major angst right now but we're resolved to not have sex until after Shawn's had her pussy first, so I can't fuck my way out of this wave of anxiety.

[hubudig2]

What's on your mind?
Got thoughts that you can't shake?
How's Lana? She coping with having to wait another day?

[w770]

What's on your mind?
Got thoughts that you can't shake?
How's Lana? She coping with having to wait another day?

I think the week off of Shawn brought along some inertia and a false sense of relative calmness in the waters, but I think I'm feeling the angst of not only him taking Lana on our bed again, but the elevated state of this experience with me being there when it happens. It's a heightened form of humiliation in that he'll be literally showing me how much better he fucks her than me. We were always able to play it off before this as me being the clueless husband, as much as that wasn't the case, but as of this weekend, it will be something entirely different in the dynamic between the three of us. Couple that on top of the idea of licking her pussy after he's had it - it becomes a bit overwhelming.

[gulfcpl]

Hang in there buddy. You’ll be fine whatever happens.

[Dharmadude]

I know it seems overwhelming. But, so were the other ones in the last couple weeks because they were new. In time, they will become not necessarily routine but ones you will look forward to and miss if they are not there.

With the way Lana has taken to this lifestyle, I think you will get to experience these encounters a lot more often. I hope you do. It is an exciting lifestyle.

Find the aspects you like and those you do not. You have a loving wife that is willing to make those desires come true for you and will shut down those you dislike. That is amazing.

[chastity_boi]

hang in there. It may seem daunting at the outset but the payoff will be incredible. It's one of those things you just need to lean into and you'll be doing it with an incredible partner who loves you very much. The fear is of the unknown and making yourself vulnerable. But Lana already knows what turns you on, she already knows how you fuck her and how Shawn does too. She is very much aware of the size difference and of how much more alpha he is compared to you sexually. Shawn also knows you know now and, at least on some level, have submitted to Lana's wishes to allow her to continue playing. It's a leap of faith but in this instance, with Lana by your side, given how you communicate and are with each other, you have a parachute, secondary chute and safety net all in place. The first time for most things anyone does in life can be nerve wracking and in this particular scenario a total head fuck, but this is just the next first in a series of very intense firsts you've both experienced over the past couple of weeks or so. As far as I can tell you're both still with us and your relationship is stronger than ever. Sometimes it's best not to overthink these things and make that jump.

[johnstevens555]

you have a parachute, secondary chute and safety net all in place.

That is debatable at best.

[w770]

Okay that's nice to hear that perspective. In fact if Superman were the one telling me to do it, I would outright reject it, no matter how much I actually wanted to do it.

Dont let that fucker watch you do it either. That dirty little deed needs to stay just between the two of you.

Oh for sure. It's a line I've already drawn in the sand.

Many wives love for their hubbies to lick up the evidence of their naughtiness. It’s the mind game of what you are doing which causes the mind blowing orgasms. She is offering up direct evidence of her infidelity, and you are experiencing it first-hand at the source! There is no more intimate act in cuckoldom.. it is an act of submission and worship.. it doesn’t mean you’re gay ir bi..it’s the ultimate submission to her sexuality. The symbolism is strong, her orgasms will be deep, and you may cum without touching yourself!

I think it really is the mental aspect of the act that turns women on so much, as Lana squeezed my head so hard that I thought I was going to suffocate the night I licked her pussy after she was FaceTiming with Shawn, and in turn, I was rock hard.

I think at this point, listening might be a far as I go this weekend.

Remember, when he is gone in January, you will only regret what you did not do.

I have this in the back of my mind constantly.

Guys, I REALLY hate that I like this.

Yeah I went through that stage

I feel like every stage of this whole thing is marked by waves of anxiety and angst, which probably makes the rush even more intense.

I feel like the party idea is skipping ahead in the progression too fast. You haven't really interacted with him directly since he learned that you are aware, right? I wouldn't want that encounter to involve third parties. Just because their relationship has an end date on it shouldn't be reason to go further than you are ready.

Well the party isn't until next week, so hopefully by then, I might be in a different head space. Also, if I'm feeling too overwhelmed, I can always just walk up a flight of stairs and I'll be home.

Whether everyone thinks it is so or not, submission is often used in the description of the act.

So as in one of the posts above...'it is an act of submission and worship.. it doesn’t mean you’re gay ir bi..it’s the ultimate submission to her sexuality.'

In.my opinion, psychologically there's a whole world of difference between having seconds and licking her cum filled pussy, and if you do it there's no reason why he should be in the same room or even house. There's no right or wrong answer just go with your own impulses and feelings, and don't get too caught up about it if you go ahead as it might be what you both want. Taking it in stages though is not wrong and might even be better.

Chris

Basically what Chris is saying is...It's easier to take poison in small doses than all at once. But the results are the same.

This is good advice. Although I feel that Lana and I have been really fast at adapting to each new circumstance so far, so I'm fully aware that the space between only being able to stomach listening in on them fucking and hypothetically licking her pussy after he's filled her up may only be a week or so.

A couple of things I'll mention.

Firstly, a page or two back w770 said "There was the one instance so far with Shawn where he pounded her so mercilessly that we had to resort to her giving me a handjob"
It would have been better, and more appropriate, if she'd insisted that it was your hand that was used. That way, you masturbating yourself, is more humiliating, in my opinion. Could you handle that?

Secondly, the talk of clean up. This is very hot, and, as others have said, probably the ultimate cuckold humiliation.

So, w770, if you are at all hesitant about taking the initiative, and going down on Lana, after Sman/Shawn has just cum in her pussy, then have a word with Lana beforehand. Tell her that you would like her to sit on your face afterwards. Whether you lick or not, is up to you. But the symbolism is still there.

I think I could handle masturbating myself to it, however, I think Lana would prefer to do it for me in the instance where she was too sore for reclaiming sex. She always feels an urgency to reconnect after she's been with him, even if it's as simple as touching me and getting me over the edge.

Her and I have talked about this quite a bit in the last 48 hours. Although we know that I have my reservations with cleaning her up, we're also aware that this seems to be a fluid (pun haha) situation, and that things may and likely will change in short order, so we're additionally mentally preparing for that eventuality.

As usual, there's so many different ways of thinking about it to fit however it turns you on.
Having a girl sit on your face could be seen as submissive, so could going down on her [missionary?].
You could argue that it depends whether you initiated the act or she did or told you to.
I went down on my girl after I cum in her, I considered that she might think less of me but then I thought "fuck it, she'll enjoy it", it's not even something I wanted to do, just something I wanted to experiment with for her pleasure.
Was it submissive? I don't think either of us thought so, she probably wouldn't have enjoyed it if she thought it was. I probably could've done it in a submissive way but I wasn't trying to convince anyone it was one way or the other, just engaging in a sexual act for the fun of it.
Not saying it's the same thing btw, just the closest experience I can relate to.
If you're horned up, I doubt you'll be weighing up the pros/cons/psychology of the situation and will do whatever turns you on in that moment.
I hope you both enjoy whatever you choose to do, without any regrets either way.

I definitely agree that as much planning as we're doing, Lana and I will likely just give into the moment and all of this could be for nothing, lol.

I’ve only ever eaten a creampie one time. It was my own mess and it was a little over 5 years ago. My wife was possibly 7 months pregnant at the time. Obviously not quite the same situation but it was still a big turn on for me for a few years after that. I was so glad I did it, but I haven’t gained the courage to do it again. I don’t get to cum in my wife too often (she’s not on birth control) but when I do, I chicken out. To be honest, it wasn’t even a bad experience at all. Then again, I’m not a stud like SuperDildoMan, nor do I fuck my wife multiple times in a given session. So just one average load from an average penis.

I've never tasted my own cum now that I think about it. I've had friends tell me that they've gone down on their wives after cumming in them and have all said it wasn't as bad as they assumed it would be.

Look w770.
You can tell Lana she’s inspired a new TV Show.

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/stat ... rFuRSL8rzQ

(although I think what you 2 have going on would get
far higher ratings )

I'm definitely going to show her this, lol.

Hang in there buddy. You’ll be fine whatever happens.

I know it seems overwhelming. But, so were the other ones in the last couple weeks because they were new. In time, they will become not necessarily routine but ones you will look forward to and miss if they are not there.

With the way Lana has taken to this lifestyle, I think you will get to experience these encounters a lot more often. I hope you do. It is an exciting lifestyle.

Find the aspects you like and those you do not. You have a loving wife that is willing to make those desires come true for you and will shut down those you dislike. That is amazing.

hang in there. It may seem daunting at the outset but the payoff will be incredible. It's one of those things you just need to lean into and you'll be doing it with an incredible partner who loves you very much. The fear is of the unknown and making yourself vulnerable. But Lana already knows what turns you on, she already knows how you fuck her and how Shawn does too. She is very much aware of the size difference and of how much more alpha he is compared to you sexually. Shawn also knows you know now and, at least on some level, have submitted to Lana's wishes to allow her to continue playing. It's a leap of faith but in this instance, with Lana by your side, given how you communicate and are with each other, you have a parachute, secondary chute and safety net all in place. The first time for most things anyone does in life can be nerve wracking and in this particular scenario a total head fuck, but this is just the next first in a series of very intense firsts you've both experienced over the past couple of weeks or so. As far as I can tell you're both still with us and your relationship is stronger than ever. Sometimes it's best not to overthink these things and make that jump.

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm glad Lana has been willing to play into the things that she's learning about what turns me on. She's done this even when we started dating by doing things such as wearing her short red schoolgirl skirt with no underwear out to dinner one night when I told her I had a thing for those types of skirts, she's participated in the role play scenarios I've talked about when I first told her about how I wanted to see her with another guy, and now she's leaning into my attraction for humiliation. I know that should my feelings change, she'll adapt along with me. I'm really lucky in that way.

Slight Update: I finished me work earlier and we're just planning on spending the day around the house as it's raining pretty heavily here. Shawn's texted her about this weekend, and it looks like it's happening tomorrow night. She also told him that she denied me sex yesterday because it's "his pussy" which he responded with a picture message of him completely naked, sporting a massive erection with the caption, "good girl, Lana."

[hiki]

She also told him that she denied me sex yesterday because it's "his pussy" which he responded with a picture message of him completely naked, sporting a massive erection with the caption, "good girl, Lana."

Wow! Is this the first time you're seeing his 'equipment'?

[w770]

She also told him that she denied me sex yesterday because it's "his pussy" which he responded with a picture message of him completely naked, sporting a massive erection with the caption, "good girl, Lana."

Wow! Is this the first time you're seeing his 'equipment'?

Yep. Lana's told me about it and has compared it to her toy, but this is the first time I've seen it. It's hard to come up with a word to describe it, but "intimidating" comes to mind.

[william70]

We as readers, in all reality, have no idea in what mental state you are really in. IMHO I feel you have some instability going on. I feel like your wearing a suit drenched in gasoline and are about to play with fire. The train engine has jumped the tracks and the carnage and destruction is about to happen. Does Lana know how some of us feel? I would really like to see you and Lana seek out a LS therapist before you continue on with Shaun.

[Wifesharing]

Just remember you don't have to eat the cream pie you do not have to do anything you are not comfortable with doing. You seem to understand this

The feelings you having are normal and common amongst men that have shared their wives. I have to say though thtat sharing thoughts of what you might do and the encouragement is leading to some of that pre game jitters same as when your playing sports and a big game is coming up or you have a no play to try out. The over thinking can really get to you for sure

[w770]

We as readers, in all reality, have no idea in what mental state you are really in. IMHO I feel you have some instability going on. I feel like your wearing a suit drenched in gasoline and are about to play with fire. The train engine has jumped the tracks and the carnage and destruction is about to happen. Does Lana know how some of us feel? I would really like to see you and Lana seek out a LS therapist before you continue on with Shaun.

Just remember you don't have to eat the cream pie you do not have to do anything you are not comfortable with doing. You seem to understand this

The feelings you having are normal and common amongst men that have shared their wives. I have to say though thtat sharing thoughts of what you might do and the encouragement is leading to some of that pre game jitters same as when your playing sports and a big game is coming up or you have a no play to try out. The over thinking can really get to you for sure

I tend to think Wifesharing is right here. I appreciate the concern william70, and I think my description of the current state of angst is coming off as a breakdown in mental health, which I can definitely understand you interpretating it that way. I feel like this is the familiar angst feeling but elevated because of what the next steps entail. But as Wifesharing and others have said, I will take this in manageable steps and make sure I'm comfortable with everything happening during the process.

[hiki]

Is there any way to break down the 'big event' into smaller, more manageable steps? For instance minimizing interactions with him the first time around, maybe go out with the dogs before he arrives, then come back in after the 1st round, listen to the 2nd round and just briefly say bye to him as he leaves your home?

I can't imagine how awkward it would be to greet him at the door, shake hands welcoming him to your home and have a drink and discussions before they go into the bedroom.

[gulfcpl]

This isn’t rocket science. Do what’s comfortable and have fun. This is nothing more than what my wife and I call sport fucking.

[Wifesharing]

This isn’t rocket science. Do what’s comfortable and have fun. This is nothing more than what my wife and I call sport fucking.

this is the super simple way to put it and it is right

[w770]

Is there any way to break down the 'big event' into smaller, more manageable steps? For instance minimizing interactions with him the first time around, maybe go out with the dogs before he arrives, then come back in after the 1st round, listen to the 2nd round and just briefly say bye to him as he leaves your home?

I can't imagine how awkward it would be to greet him at the door, shake hands welcoming him to your home and have a drink and discussions before they go into the bedroom.

This isn’t rocket science. Do what’s comfortable and have fun. This is nothing more than what my wife and I call sport fucking.

I think he's going to come over and there might be a short talk to go over some boundaries again, although Lana's already had that talk with him a week ago. There won't be much interaction between him and myself and so I'm not anticipating much of a preamble to their time together.

She's also informed him that after he's done, she wants him to leave and so her and I can spend time together. He responded with, "Awww that's cute."

We have plans for a dinner date tonight, where I'm expecting both of us to drink a bit, which causes her to be a little frisky. It'll be hot to see her deny me when her inhibitions are down.

[johnstevens555]

When he’s leaving shake his hand and tell him to enjoy his lonely night. Poke the bear a little bit. Lol