Wife and my Dad

[wingman]

Dave -

Any updates??

[Jim_young]

Just read all your posts for the first time. You've got the makings of a book/movie there. My sympathy for what you e been through but man, you're my hero. Through all of this you've never lost your sense of self. I'm sure it was hard but David; you rock.

[elina]

Dear Dave,

Good to hear about you and Ann.

Must be good for you at the current state to be able to form a relationship with someone where you can both talk and enjoy sex without having to think to much about possibly committing for long term. Enjoy Her and be kind to Her, she must have our own challenges to deal with given that She is separated from Her husband but still wants to hook up with him again because of Her children.

Sincerely
Elina

[curiousdave]

Hi guys , I'll try and update things a bit for you.

As I mentioned before I've been very busy and in general very happy of late. No complaints at all actually. My contact with Jenna hasn't been very much of anything recently but honestly that's more because I have had my mind elsewhere ;-) But we have chatted here and there for short periods and we usually text each other a few times during the week to say "Hi", or "whats up", nothing too big. I do know that her salon is due to open at the end of this month and she is planning a "Grand Opening" get together/party whatever to celebrate it. And I have been invited to attend. She really seemed to hope I would come and I know it's a huge deal for her and her life so I most likely will go. I would feel like a real shit to not go to something that meant so much to her. I think it's the right thing to do. I'll fill you all in on this after it happens.


About them getting married... Still no date has been set. I have asked a couple of different times now and she always just says "Don't know" so I'm not asking anymore. I feel weird and pushy bringing it up so. I've also asked Paige about it, if she knows anything and she just says they have been very busy with this salon thing , so it probably isn't happening anytime soon. So that's that. Hey they will do it when they are ready I guess. I've seen her briefly like twice I think since the last time at my house. She still looks incredible (I'm sure she always will). And I still think of her everyday and yes I still masturbate thinking of her and our times together. But that has become less frequent lately with my current situation with Paige. Other than that stuff I can't think of anything to add. Anyone have any specific questions regarding her? Maybe it will jar my memory on something I may have overlooked or forgotten.

Ok now to a more fun topic, at least to me anyway lol. I finally had sex with Paige! And I was not disappointed. Not even a little! I hate to be so vulgar or whatever but in simple terms that girl can FUCK! It's completely different than sex with Jenna and I am trying not to compare it because frankly that's not fair to anyone involved. It's like apple and oranges , just two very different things. And I was madly and completely in love with Jen and I'm not with Paige. It's all lust with Paige and right now that's what I need I think. She's a dirty girl who loves to be and talk nasty and damit, that's just plain fun!

This all went down last weekend. I finally got her to take a night off from clubbing (I am burned out on that stuff already). I got her to come over and just "Hang" as I called it. We still drank (she always does) but other than that it was just a night in at my place and it's what I had really been wanting from the start. She came over not glammed up or anything, just wearing cut offs and a tank top, no make-up, nothing. She had been swimming at a friends house earlier in the day and hadn't gone home to shower or anything. All that said she still looked smokin hot to me and I was probably semi hard as soon as she got here. She is the kind of girl who just ooozes sex or sexual energy or whatever. Like I said numerous times already she's a self admitted slut so sex is always sort of hanging in the air when she's around. We watched a movie on netflix and she tried to convince me to smoke some weed with her (I can't because my job does random test ). So she smoked one which was cool with me because I know how it makes her feel and act when she's stoned. We ended up making out for a good while on the couch, her playing that little teasing, denial game like she always does. As the night went on and I could tell she was getting hornier and hornier herself I eventually got her upstairs to my bedroom. I went down on her I always do when given the chance and she was literally pouring out juices. I guess the combination of weed, booze and my tongue did the trick because this time when I climbed up on top of her she didn't stop me. She wasn't completely blitzed or anything, not even close. Just high and horny and I guess she was ready to finally give me what I've been begging for for what seems like so long now. I easily slipped right in and with her flowing juices and already wide open hole I was balls deep right away. Damn it felt good guys. I was able to last longer than I thought too because I had already jerked off a couple times earlier in the day and it paid off this night. I was so happy about that later lol. Anyway we fucked a good while, at least a good 10 minutes and she seemed to cum. It was hard to tell because she was so wet even before I got in there.

Afterwards we laid and talked and she kept me excited the whole time. She asked was it as good as I thought it would be (giggling while she asked) and I told her it was all that and better. She asked was that my first time since Jen and I told her about Ann. Not sure why I did but in the moment it just popped out. She laughed saying she thought we got it on but Ann told her we didn't so she wasn't positive. She asked how that was (sex with Ann) and I told her. She wanted details and I gave them but in the end I told her she was way better, which was true. In fairness to Ann I think it's a little bit because I had this fantasy built up over Paige and the Ann thing just happened. Plus Paige is far more sexual and like I said "dirty", which just makes it more fun for me. Like any woman she liked hearing she was better saying "Good answer", then proceeded to go down on me, licking all her juices and mine off my dick. It took me a minute to get hard again but her expert mouth got it up pretty quickly. She sucked me for several minutes (BTW she is by far the best cocksucker I have ever had). I guess like they say, practice makes perfect and I'm sure she's had a ton of practice. Jenna was very good at this but like I mentioned before it wasn't her very favorite thing to do. She preferred being on the receiving end of oral so. But she sucked me for a little while then just quit. Not sure why she quit like that (I didn't want to ask) but she came back up and kissed me a little then started back talking again.

After a little while we started watching tv and she laid her head in my naked lap and I stroked her hair (which she said felt good). She laid there lazily playing with her own tits and nipples while I played with her hair and watched. I don't even know what was on the tv now because I was only watching her lol. She ended up falling asleep for a little while and I tried too but with me sitting up and her head in my crotch I just couldn't. Not that comfortable and also kind of distracting. Later she woke up and we settled back into laying down beside each other. We talked some more and actually discussed Jen for a bit. Nothing big or anything but she reminded me she didn't want Jen knowing about us. I told her no problem and I didn't want that either really. I asked if she'd stay the night and she said ok. We went downstairs and ate some food and lounged around there for a little while. She walked around completely nude for a good while (big ass titties bouncing all over the place lol) but eventually put on one of m t-shirts. Oh one of the things I wanted to tell you about her colorful past is her big ass titties lol. Or more specifically how she came to have them. When she was 17 years old she got a fake id and started stripping. She has a fucked up home life history (I'll go more into that later I guess). But anyway she's stripping and meets this older guy (late 40's) and he basically became her sugar daddy. She wasn't having sex with him right away she said but he was buying her everything she wanted and doing anything to please her. Well a little later (after she turned 18) he bought her her fake boobies . She was a natural c-cup already she said but she wanted bigger and he wanted her to have em too so that was that. Now she is the owner of a gorgeous, very natural looking and feeling set of double D's. I think she said they cost like 8 grand or something so that guy really did want her bad. They didn't stay together long though because he wanted to totally own and control her and she wasn't about to settle down with an old man or any man right then she said. So that's the story of her tits lol.

So we end up back in bed. She had gotten stoned some more and was somewhat eager to suck me again. This time she finished the job and swallowed every drop. It was literally amazing. I felt like she drained my entire insides out from that bj. The girl knows what she's doing. For whatever reason she didn't want to fuck again but I went down on her after my bj and I ate her forever it seemed. She ended up rolling over on her stomach and poking her ass way up in the air and I ate her from behind that way, liking from pussy to asshole up and down, over and over. She seemed to really love that and after a while I dug in and put all my attention on her ass. I can't lie I love eating ass, always have. She's now only the second woman I've ever done that for though. She seemed to cum and cum from efforts so I felt really satisfied with my night. We both slept awesome after all that.

I've run out of time right now. I'll try and finish this tomorrow night if I can find the time. We had sex again in the morning and it was pretty hot too so I'd like to share it if everyone is interested? Anyway thanks for reading friends. See ya soon

[wingman]

Dave
Great update. Would love to hear more about Paige! Who knows, if she doesn't like monogamy, she might see others and tell u all about it!! Think she would have "girl talks" with Jen about the sex with your step-dad and story-tell u on the deck? She seemed to get off on hearing about ur past experiences, maybe she like being a storyteller as well?
By the way, have you told Paige any details on how Jen use to tease you with stories of her and Dad? From the background you describe, she might enjoy that.

At any rate, glad to hear u are enjoying yourself again!!!! Like we told u a long time ago, their is life on the other side, and its good(if not better) than before. At least this time, experience should help guide you to a better outcume and should help you manage you're own expectations. By the way, great comments and advice for jevason

Have fun... Can't wait to hear more.

Ps: So u don't appear solo at the grand opening, maybe Paige has a smokin hot friend, Jenna doesn't know, you can bring.

[Jim_young]

So glad you're doing better. I read a much healthier and happier Dave into your words. Enjoy life and I can't wait to hear about the morning sex!

[jthemanifest]

Dave, I am so glad that you are doing better. Get after it, stud.

[CuckedIn67]

Thank you for letting us share your life story Dave. It seems that I may be following yours with my own marriage now in jeopardy. My wife hit me with the "I don't love you the same way anymore" story now that she loves her bull. Life is a mystery.

[go2guy]

Thanks for the update, Dave. Many of us will be happy to hear how well you are doing.

[b_p]

Dave, as aways, thanks for the update!

I think you could use an interpreter. Here's my take on something you said.

<< About them getting married... Still no date has been set. I have asked a couple of different times now and she always just says "Don't know" so I'm not asking anymore. I feel weird and pushy bringing it up so. >>

Translation: The wedding has been put off indefinitely, for reasons that she may not want to discuss. I am guessing now, but I'll predict that they don't ever get married, for whatever reason. There are a lot of reasons why that could be, and I'm sure you can imagine a lot of them.

The reason you feel weird and pushy asking about it is that somehow, you're getting the message from Jenna that it's an uncomfortable topic for her. (See above.)

Also:

<< She asked was that my first time since Jen and I told her about Ann. Not sure why I did but in the moment it just popped out. She laughed saying she thought we got it on but Ann told her we didn't so she wasn't positive. >>

To be honest, I think you would have been better off saying something along the lines of "No, it wasn't my first time, but I don't share those kinds of things with other people."

I think the fact that she suspected it (which is quite plausible) may have been why Paige decided to have sex with you. She was one-upping Ann. I'm not saying she didn't enjoy the sex, that's a bonus for her too.

<< We had sex again in the morning and it was pretty hot too so I'd like to share it if everyone is interested? >>

Absolutely.

BP

[aguy4pleasure]

I keep wondering what would happen if your step dad was ever introduced to Paige.

[Max_Devli]

I keep wondering what would happen if your step dad was ever introduced to Paige.

Oh, the hilarity that could ensue if it happened again.

[curiousdave]

Where were we ... ;-)

So in the morning I woke up on my side facing away from her. She had thrown her leg up over me and was sort of like spooning me from behind. She leaned in and whispered in my ear that she wanted to fuck. As she said that she started humping my ass, like she was fucking me. I stayed in that position but looked back over my shoulder and moaned Mmmm. She started playing with my nipples and we shared a kiss, me still looking back like that. She was slowly grinding her already hot pussy on my ass/lower back. This was a totally new position for me to be in with a girl. It was weird but at the same time exciting.

I ended up rolling over onto my back and she climbed right on top immediately sliding down onto my super hard cock. She started slowly but gained speed rather quickly. Before long she was riding my dick with all that she had. Her heat and wetness were really something to be first thing in the morning with little to no build-up. She kept playing with my nipples and staring down at me with this smoldering gaze that conveyed pure Lust(at least to me it did). I didn't last very long at all, maybe 5 minutes. When I was close to cumming I told her so and she started bucking even faster and told me to cum in her which only turned me on more. She said "Fill me up baby" and I exploded all inside her. After I was fully spent she slid off me and went down and started licking all her juices and cum off my dick. She took me in her mouth and gently sucked and nursed on me till I shrunk completely. That was a brand new experience for me as well. Being sucked soft so to speak. All I know is the girl is hot and fucking fun and exciting beyond belief. I could totally get used to waking up beside her like this and starting everyday off this way

We hung around in bed for a little while watching tv and chit chatting. Nothing special just having a lazy morning relishing in what we just did ( I mean I was anyway). After a while she said she needed to go and we went downstairs and she collected her stuff. I offered to make her something to eat but she said she had some stuff to do early so. We did share a goodbye kiss at the door that sort of felt like a "relationship" kiss more than a "thanks for the fuck" kiss. To me it felt like there was real passion and caring to it more than just , well you know.

So this past week was a little different. I stayed in all but one night and on that night our wires got crossed up and we missed each other. We still texted a bunch and I would say she was sweeter than normal in her attitude. What I mean by that is normally we text or talk it's it's very laid back, sort of like buddies or whatever. This week it seemed a little different. Hard to explain. Where am I going with with all this? I'm not even sure myself. I mean I know what kind of girl she is. I never thought of this as a thing where I was hoping for a relationship (more than fuck buddies), but I can't lie now. After fucking her and spending some decent quality time like we did, I may be hoping for something more now. Maybe that's why I'm reading things into our goodbye kiss and our texts and stuff. Could be all in my head.

In most of our recent talks that went to the subject she's made comments about wanting to take time off from serious commitments and relationships. Something I 100% agreed and identified with myself. Apparently as wild and slutty as she is she did have deep feelings for her last boyfriend. She did cheat on him which I think I may have mentioned before but she says she loved him. You know when a girl like her is needing a good dicking and the boyfriend isn't there, well you can do the math lol. So he found out and they broke up. It's been over a while now though so who knows.

I would be happy if we could continue being friends with benefits . No problem with that at all. But at the same time I have entertained thoughts of something more. The girl has gotten under my skin a little and I catch myself thinking about her a good bit during the day. I'm probably barking up the wrong tree big time but we feel what we feel right?

So I haven't seen her all week which is now out of the ordinary and I have invited her to come over a couple of times already. She said we might could hook up tonight sometime. She's going out with friends downtown (one of those expensive clubs I hate) and I'm supposed to hang with some buddies doing something else. So I'm hoping we can meet up late or maybe she can drop by if I'm really lucky. We'll see and I'll keep you guys posted.


I think it was wingman who asked would she be willing to story tell with me her adventures or talk about Jenna's. That's a definite real possibility with her I'd say. The girl is very dirty minded and loves talking sexual. I've been tempted to go into my kinks but have held off mostly when it comes to the cuckolding thing and what happened with Jen. First off I was desperately trying to get her into bed myself so I didn't want to add any fuel to the whole "denial" thing that could go with something like that. Also when I'm with her I've tried not bringing Jen up too much because I didn't want to seem like she's always on my mind and I'm looking for a replacement or hoping to get info about her. I wanted Paige to feel like my attention was all on her (which it was for the most part). So we'll just have to wait and see what can come up with all this. I'd love to hear more from her perspective about Jen and Dad and find out what she knew or suspected, whatever. Just hear things from her side. But I'd rather not focus completely on that and distract from anything Paige and I may have going on here. I think there is some real potential for good times if nothing else with Paige , and I'd love to have some good times right about now lol.

Ok guys that's it for now. I'll write more when I know more(or think of anything else I forgot). Take care friends and thanks for all your well wishes and advice!

[curiousdave]

I keep wondering what would happen if your step dad was ever introduced to Paige.

You guys are crazy lol. Paige has met and been around my Dad a lot already. Jenna would probably kill them both if anything like that happened!

[curiousdave]

b_p you could be right about what you said about them getting married. I just don't have any real info to go so. I mean personally I don't know why they would be in a place like that now. Their relationship is still fairly new and they are living together and building a business together. If they have already hit a road block of this nature it would surprise me. But life is full of challenges and struggles so who knows. I am sure I'd be the last person she would want to share this type problems with considering our history so.

But I don't want to see them have problems at all. She's gone from me now and even though that stings and I know I have to live without her forever, I want nothing but the biggest form of happiness for her and him. Whats done is done and I wish them well. My love for her is still so deep that if she ever feels deep real pain it will hurt me too. I don't want that at all. So I have to say I hope you are wrong. But only time will tell so we'll see I guess.

[curiousdave]

Thank you for letting us share your life story Dave. It seems that I may be following yours with my own marriage now in jeopardy. My wife hit me with the "I don't love you the same way anymore" story now that she loves her bull. Life is a mystery.

I'm very sorry to hear that. I know we don't know each other but after going through that type thing myself I totally sympathize with anyone else feeling it. I wish you the best and can only offer a Hang in there attitude. Maybe there is still hope.

[rs480]

Dave, there is more hope for you than there is for RiasHub right now (sorry RiasHub) . He has loved and is losing.
You are learning to love again.
Even 'tho it's Paige (devilish grin), if she is agreeable, Paige may be the one for you. :-) I mean long term.
I can't believe I just typed that. Please consider the source. Me.
rs

[b_p]

Dave, I understand completely regarding your feelings and good wishes for Jenna and for the two of them together. While you said you don't have any information to go on, I think you are neglecting what you do know:

- You know that they haven't set a date for it.
- You know that it's an uncomfortable subject for her.

"But at the same time I have entertained thoughts of something more. The girl has gotten under my skin a little and I catch myself thinking about her a good bit during the day. I'm probably barking up the wrong tree big time but we feel what we feel right?"

You feel what you feel. But you are in control of what you *do*.

If you start telling Paige that you're fantasizing about being in a long term relationship with her, she will probably bail out quickly, sorry to say.

BP

[SFTMO]

Wow after reading all of this, I must say that everything happens for a reason, and I'm glad that you were strong and fought through as it seems like things are starting to get better!

[CuckedIn67]

Thank you for letting us share your life story Dave. It seems that I may be following yours with my own marriage now in jeopardy. My wife hit me with the "I don't love you the same way anymore" story now that she loves her bull. Life is a mystery.

I'm very sorry to hear that. I know we don't know each other but after going through that type thing myself I totally sympathize with anyone else feeling it. I wish you the best and can only offer a Hang in there attitude. Maybe there is still hope.

Thank you Dave, you really are a kind person with a big heart. You know I have been here before since i was first cucked by first sexual girlfriend. I was drawn to the same type woman through life after that. Each woman I married continued to train me and push me further into cuckoldry (without knowing a title). I still get cuckold angst and ride the emotional rollercoaster with each experience and to top it off, that angst becomes extreme when faced with losing a wife or gf to a stronger male bull. I don't recommend the life but I think you already are on the same road and know those feelings all too well. I wish you the best of luck with your new lady if she becomes very special then even more wishes are in order.

Thank you Dave.
W.

[curiousdave]

Dave, I understand completely regarding your feelings and good wishes for Jenna and for the two of them together. While you said you don't have any information to go on, I think you are neglecting what you do know:

- You know that they haven't set a date for it.
- You know that it's an uncomfortable subject for her.

Well to be honest I'm not letting myself worry about any of this right now. She seems happy from what I can tell and she isn't giving me any indication that she really wants to talk about it with me so. But for the sake of argument I will say they/she are very busy at the moment, that much I know is true. I mean how many people take on such big projects all at once (starting a new business, complete with construction while also planning a wedding? Not to mention they really haven't even been together as a "out" couple for very long. Not that it would be unheard of but do most people get married right away under such circumstances? I don't know. But this isn't meant to say I KNOW you're wrong or anything. I reall don't have a clue. But I think I may would get a sign or hear something from someone (Paige maybe) if something sour was in the air. Only time will tell.

"But at the same time I have entertained thoughts of something more. The girl has gotten under my skin a little and I catch myself thinking about her a good bit during the day. I'm probably barking up the wrong tree big time but we feel what we feel right?"

You feel what you feel. But you are in control of what you *do*.

If you start telling Paige that you're fantasizing about being in a long term relationship with her, she will probably bail out quickly, sorry to say.

BP

Can't say I disagree with you here. Actually seems like very good advice to me. But honestly I wasn't planning on telling her anything like that right now, maybe ever. I was just speaking of what has been going through my mind. Like I said she made it fairly clear she isn't thinking like that and I told her the same about myself too. It's just that I have enjoyed our time together so much I can't help thinking of having it more "full time". But I am keeping that to myself (except for here lol). Thanks though for the good advice.

About this weekend, we never hooked up But she said maybe we can sometime this week. I'll keep you guys posted.

[curiousdave]

Thank you for letting us share your life story Dave. It seems that I may be following yours with my own marriage now in jeopardy. My wife hit me with the "I don't love you the same way anymore" story now that she loves her bull. Life is a mystery.

I'm very sorry to hear that. I know we don't know each other but after going through that type thing myself I totally sympathize with anyone else feeling it. I wish you the best and can only offer a Hang in there attitude. Maybe there is still hope.

Thank you Dave, you really are a kind person with a big heart. You know I have been here before since i was first cucked by first sexual girlfriend. I was drawn to the same type woman through life after that. Each woman I married continued to train me and push me further into cuckoldry (without knowing a title). I still get cuckold angst and ride the emotional rollercoaster with each experience and to top it off, that angst becomes extreme when faced with losing a wife or gf to a stronger male bull. I don't recommend the life but I think you already are on the same road and know those feelings all too well. I wish you the best of luck with your new lady if she becomes very special then even more wishes are in order.

Thank you Dave.
W.

Thanks again man. I do know the feelings well. And as scary and painful as they are I am still drawn to it like a moth to a flame so to speak. I can still feel those feelings down deep when I think for very long about everything. And as uncomfortable as that is it's at the same time familiar and sort of "right" feeling. Hard to really put it into words. But I can certainly picture myself allowing all this to happen again if things go that way (with Paige or someone else). I just hope if I get into another relationship like that that it plays out much differently next time. The extreme feeling of losing out to the better man is exciting and erotic for sure but at the same time it's so final and in the end doesn't leave you with anything but the memories.

Hang in there friend!

[curiousdave]

Wow after reading all of this, I must say that everything happens for a reason, and I'm glad that you were strong and fought through as it seems like things are starting to get better!

Definitely! And thanks for the well wishes!

[CuckedIn67]

Thank you for letting us share your life story Dave. It seems that I may be following yours with my own marriage now in jeopardy. My wife hit me with the "I don't love you the same way anymore" story now that she loves her bull. Life is a mystery.

I'm very sorry to hear that. I know we don't know each other but after going through that type thing myself I totally sympathize with anyone else feeling it. I wish you the best and can only offer a Hang in there attitude. Maybe there is still hope.

Thank you Dave, you really are a kind person with a big heart. You know I have been here before since i was first cucked by first sexual girlfriend. I was drawn to the same type woman through life after that. Each woman I married continued to train me and push me further into cuckoldry (without knowing a title). I still get cuckold angst and ride the emotional rollercoaster with each experience and to top it off, that angst becomes extreme when faced with losing a wife or gf to a stronger male bull. I don't recommend the life but I think you already are on the same road and know those feelings all too well. I wish you the best of luck with your new lady if she becomes very special then even more wishes are in order.

Thank you Dave.
W.

Thanks again man. I do know the feelings well. And as scary and painful as they are I am still drawn to it like a moth to a flame so to speak. I can still feel those feelings down deep when I think for very long about everything. And as uncomfortable as that is it's at the same time familiar and sort of "right" feeling. Hard to really put it into words. But I can certainly picture myself allowing all this to happen again if things go that way (with Paige or someone else). I just hope if I get into another relationship like that that it plays out much differently next time. The extreme feeling of losing out to the better man is exciting and erotic for sure but at the same time it's so final and in the end doesn't leave you with anything but the memories.

Hang in there friend!

Dave, I will hang in there and I'm also well aware of the feelings you spoke of. We share a great experience you and I, that others may only talk about. Be safe my brother!

[b_p]

Thanks for the updates, Dave! They're very much appreciated.