Young married guy here

[ticklemang]

I think Lauren being upset at Adam over this, and angry to the point where Danny has to specify that she “wasn’t crying” clearly means she’s catching some feelings for Adam.

[eventfire]

This keeps getting better and better. Once this secret gets out, Adam isn't the type to keep his trap shut, so the family will know eventually. Yikes.

[Rogueuser1]

Sorry to hear you are not sleeping well. A fight between them isn't the worst thing, hopefully she is ready for it a little rough the next time they are together though.
She is probably just hormonal since she claimed she was ovulating at Thanksgiving.

[sandy691196]

This keeps getting better and better. Once this secret gets out, Adam isn't the type to keep his trap shut, so the family will know eventually. Yikes.

Adam will be vengeful after all the "unfair" judgment (from his POV). He initially was very uncomfortable with "cheating" Danny.
He is the kinda guy who is into "slut shaming" women, even if he himself has been a "partner in the crime"!

[Jujube]

Adam is Danny’s half brother.

[RunDannyRun]

Adam is Danny’s half brother.

Sorry he is not a blood relative. He is my stepbrother (well ex-stepbrother as my mom left his dad like a decade ago).

[DavaoMike]

My wife, Maricel, occasionally has a spat with her longtime boyfriend (who lives with us). She’s a very jealous Filipina, so she gets upset if her boyfriend even glances at another girl. But invariably, once she settles down, they spend hours alone together making love.

DM

[sandy691196]

I think Lauren being upset at Adam over this, and angry to the point where Danny has to specify that she “wasn’t crying” clearly means she’s catching some feelings for Adam.

Isn't this how Lauren would react if she caught Danny cheating with a stripper?
So what's the difference in relationship status between
Adam-Lauren and Danny-Lauren?
Issue is that Lauren tries to evaluate everything through the prism of theories and doctrines and definitions, rather than living them through felt reality.

So even if she is feeling all the romantic - emotional things with Adam as is normal between lovers, her book of theories doesn't allow her to accept it as such. That's typical cognitive dissonance.

It's a bit dangerous if not handled correctly. Like she had blamed Danny in her heart, when that first dating experience had blown up. She tends to externalise the "blame" when her feelings and theories clash with each other.

Danny needs to talk to her on this today, rather than let it sit in her mind and fester..

[Midnight Joker]

I'm not sure if her reaction is funny or concerning. Seems she doesn't want to share Adam with other women. Plus, she is trying to change him by getting him to stop drinking. To me this means a deeper connection for her than just sex.

[sandy691196]

certainly not funny..
It's visceral.

[nutjob]

Isn't this how Lauren would react if she caught Danny cheating with a stripper?
So what's the difference in relationship status between
Adam-Lauren and Danny-Lauren?

It could literally be nothing than if she’s letting him not use a condom, she doesn’t want him to bring home any diseases from being with someone else, especially from someone who engages in riskier sexual behavior (like a stripper who lets strangers finger her). This is completely explainable without turning it into OMG LAUREN’S GOT FEELINGS.

[sandy691196]

Catching stuff from a lap dance? Remember the sequence.
Danny never told her that Adam fingered the stripper..Just told her that there was a stripper in the party.

Lauren went all green eyed with jealousy and lover's angst just by hearing that part. When Adam came to kiss her in the kitchen, she had already gone cold turkey.
Then she did the typical lover's interrogation and got him to admit the fingering part.

This has history and context. She had freaked out even when she saw tinder message pop up on his phone in the early days.
You don't catch STIs from Tinder messages.

[Coolcalm]

She’s jealous…you don’t get jealous over a fuck buddy. She is developing more and more feelings for him.
And while he is a shit, Adam is right that she has the gall to be mad at him as they are both already cheating (well L with D’s consent but A doesn’t know that).
I’m wondering if they’ve both already said “I love you” to each other?

[DLD]

Of course she’s developed feelings. It’s her first time having mind blowing sex at this level. Her first time squirting. Her first time going multiple rounds for hours at a time. It’s completely unrealistic to think that would not affect how you feel. It doesn’t mean it’s love, but yes, there are certainly feelings of caring for Adam and perhaps affection.

Plus, she’s coming from a monogamous lifestyle. So naturally, she’s going to view things through the lens of monogamy. Given her background, that’s completely normal. Of course she cares about Adam, she has given her body to him and they have fluid bonded. She’s only gone bareback with one other person, her husband. So that means something to her.

My point is I don’t think everyone saying she’s in love with him is hitting the correct mark. She views the relationship as a friendship with benefits, or probably more accurately a closed poly Triad.

[sandy691196]

Friendship with benefits and Poly Triad are at the opposite poles of the feelings spectrum..
FWB is Friendly sex.. not cold sex but warm and friendly.

Poly is love and entitlement and possessiveness..

She has equated love and romance and sex all her life. Before this her relationships started with romance and spending time and then sex.
Here she started with the sex end of the equation and the other two fell into place.
But it's a package of all three for her.
It's likely the L word was said by Adam at some point to which she at least didn't say no explicitly..

Maybe that's why she didn't wanna go to a hotel with him? She thought that the Love talk would become unmanageable with the freedom there? And she didn't want to be emotionally cornered to say it or acknowledge it in some form just yet?

Did she charge him with that in the kitchen? To which he reacted with the "cheating your husband" jibe?

Did she angrily say- " you cheating scumbag.. you told me you love me while I was in your arms and then you go fingering stripper pussy!"

To which he reacted with - "you never discuss where we stand and you cheat Danny and accuse me of cheating!"

[Coolcalm]

Friends don’t get jealous to the point of crying. She is falling for him.
I do get the cuck thing but oftentimes we see the cucks go to masochism and self flagellation. I get a sense that this may be happening here. D sees what’s going on (so does L for that matter) and they both don’t seem to want to admit it to themselves.
I like reading Angela of “Angela Plays” and she is so insightful. She is the woman who gets all this mind blowing sex and great experiences as well but she keeps things in perspective and even she senses this is going in the wrong direction. Plus mind blowing sex or not she sees that A is a shit. Angela has been in L’s shoes.

[Angela Plays]

Thanks Cool!

I don’t judge anyone for their sexual lifestyle, kink, fetish, or choices. My big hangup with this whole situation is my belief, from what I’ve read, that Adam is simply a user, a taker, and an all-round bad human being. Like my father used to say….the people you associate with be they good or bad will impact who you are and how you behave. Not 100% but for the most part, I’m my experience, good people lead to good experiences and bad people the opposite way.

Run, don’t walk, as fast as you can away from this Adam creep!

[sandy691196]

Reverse Ventures

[Midnight Joker]

Well, I don't think she's in love with him. Women can be possessive even when not in love. I was with a girl I dated while her boyfriend was away in college. Although we had sex often, there was a period where she was trying to be good and not fuck around behind his back. We still went out, but as "friends", which I enjoyed. One night we went to a club. At this point I'm thinking we're just friends now, so I'm free to hook up with whomever I want. I started kissing a girl we met at a bar (I knew her) and the FWB girl freaked out and dragged me out of the bar to take her home. Crazy.

[Luigical1931]

I think the rage at the situation probably comes from her own self worth. She’s probably thinking ‘am I not enough for you?’

I don’t think it’s a love thing, I think it’s a want to be desired and to be the only person he desires.

Have you guys discussed if they will get together again? I’m just thinking will she trust him now to go bare, or will she insist on a condom? I know originally she didn’t trust him despite the test, presuming this is a worry again now? Or do you think she’s hooked on the feeling of him going in raw and cumming inside her?

[sandy691196]

Well, I don't think she's in love with him. Women can be possessive even when not in love. I was with a girl I dated while her boyfriend was away in college. Although we had sex often, there was a period where she was trying to be good and not fuck around behind his back. We still went out, but as "friends", which I enjoyed. One night we went to a club. At this point I'm thinking we're just friends now, so I'm free to hook up with whomever I want. I started kissing a girl we met at a bar (I knew her) and the FWB girl freaked out and dragged me out of the bar to take her home. Crazy.

In your case, the girl was poly with you to start with..Then she artificially tried to be "good" as per normative behavioral code.
That didn't mean her feelings towards you had gone away.

In this case too, most of us are agreed that Lauren herself may not have articulated the L word. Maybe Adam said stuff like that while cuddling. Lauren's thing may have been limited to silent permission through non verbals..

But her attitude and approach to this relationship is certainly lover like..

[SlapHappy]

It’s early days. We don’t know what the dynamic will ultimately be. Playing fire somewhat though here.

[parmaham55]

So much chat, but we all know that Lauren just wants Adam to give her a good seeing to. She'll be down there at night the first opportunity.

[wannabecUKold]

Happy Christmas to you and Lauren, Danny.
Thank you for sharing this adventure with us. Hope all goes well for you both.

[Jujube]

Some women are attracted to bad boys and n’er do wells. I really think Lauren doesn’t take him too seriously, and the dumb admission to fingering a stripper just reinforces the fact that he is a dumbass.