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[Breaker445]

I guess I've developed a contrarian view of what's happened so far here. I don't think Breaker's wife has done anything sexual yet, with Dylan or anyone else.

For instance in the latest post, 90 minutes there and back again from a gym workout is not that long a time. I doubt his wife is going out for quickies at this point. Also, a woman wanting to shower after a workout and before bedtime is to be expected, not an obvious sign of washing off evidence of infidelity.

I think she is still getting used to flirting and making herself appear available and that she still has a ways to go before she'll go all the way with this. You noted awhile back that you are the only guy she's ever had sex with, which means she has never done this before.

BTW, Breaker, have your discussions about cucking included condoms vs. bareback for your wife? Unless it's the latter, her used panties aren't going to tell you much.

I'm not bringing this up to be a bummer. You two are having fun exploring and learning and nurturing your sex life. Maybe she'll continue to make progress. Certainly it is a huge positive that you have cucking as a mutual goal.

But I would not proceed, were I in your shoes, under the assumption that she's already having sex with Dylan.

I am with you, I too dont think they've hooked up, but I think the longer times at the gym could mean they are in each others company. I think you are right that she is still getting used to the flirting and being available as I am the only one she's ever been with. Along with that, she's talked about that and how she is still getting used to the whole thing and that is part of the reason she doesnt want me pestering her all the time about it. I do think it's more of her developing a relationship.

Thanks for bringing up the condom/bareback thing. And a good point to the underwear question, I haven't brought that discussion up. But I completely forgot a comment she made last week while we were watching a movie. She did make a comment after a scene where a guy gets an STD and realizes he had unprotected sex with a woman. My wife said, "See babe, that's why you always use protection." I remember thinking that comment from her was a bit odd, like it was an educational moment she was giving me, but obviously not in a way she was telling me to use protection. It may have be irrelevant, but that reminded me of that comment she made and I do remember at the time thinking it was a bit odd of her to say that the way she did.

Also, your comment isn't a bummer at all, it's more of the side I've been leaning on which is why I haven't brought anything like that up to her.

[BallSpanking]

Interesting that she should make that statement, considering the strong taste of latex when you went down on her a couple of months back... It is not proof of anything, but is quite curious.

[Tryn]

I personally think the sporadic showers after going to the gym holds meaning. It could be she actually had sex or maybe something else. Inconsistencies in routine are usually related to something though.

An idea that came to me while reading your latest updates is, would she be receptive to you texting her & asking for a screenshot of some previous texts she thinks you would find hot? Perhaps you promise something in return, such as special chore or buying her something? Often times texting feels less intrusive than in person. It also gives her complete control over things.

[BallSpanking]

I don’t think anyone enjoys pestering, although she does enjoy you being inquisitive, and reeling you in at will, whenever she dangles a possibility in your face. It sounds like she might let you in on her text messages sometime, and that would be huge. Not yet, means it is too early.

She is moving forward, and you are giving her the space she needs, although it drives you crazy. Keep doing what you’ve been doing, don’t crowd her, and she will soon cuckold you.

[Breaker445]

Tryn - The texting idea is a great idea! I will bring that up to her, maybe more than just getting screenshots of texts, but she can update me with things more through texts.

BallSpanking - That taste of latex was certainly interesting, but I highly doubt she did anything back then only because we have had so many conversations since that night that I am sure she would have told me about hooking up, had she hooked up. I just think if we are at this point in all this she would have said something to me by now about any sort of previous hook ups, especially knowing that I'd love to hear that. But that night was still really interesting to me.

Yesterday before going home she sent me a text that she had invited our friends over for dinner. I really wasn't looking forward to it because I'd really like a night to ourselves as it seems like we haven't had a night to ourselves of just a normal relaxing night in weeks. But I got home first and immediately started cleaning up as I knew she'd appreciate less work to do when she got back in preparation for dinner. When she got home and saw me cleaning she gave a sigh of relief and said, "Oh thank you so much for doing that!" A little later I was still cleaning up and she walked by me and gave me this smile and said, "You're like my bitch aren't you?" I gave her a excited reaction and let her know I loved hearing that along with happily telling her I was.

As we waited for our guests to arrive I remembered her telling me she wanted these pairs of tight black jeans that had holes in them, but she wasn't going to get them. I was also thinking I didn't know how late the night was going to be and so I didn't know if I would have time to check in about things, but I was still excited from her comments the night before and my wanting of checking in to see what was going on. So I figured the jeans would be a perfect lead in to checking in. Also remembering how she didn't seem to like the pair of jeans she was trying to wear to their previous date night and that seemed to derail any plans for that night. I brought up to her that I thought she should get the jeans she wanted. She asked excitedly, "really!?!?" I told her I thought she should and figured the next time she went out with "you know.." they may be useful. Yes I couldn't quiet say his name oddly enough. I referred to him and brought him up to her as "you know..." with a pause following. She obviously knew exactly who I was referring to and what I was referring to, but as soon as I was saying that to her and his name was about to come up in the sentence I froze and couldn't get his name out. To be honest I felt nervous and I felt awkward in that moment. Her expression turned to a glow and she got a big smile and told me excitedly, "Yes for sure!!"

I about melted right there in the kitchen, a rush of excitement overcame me and I immediately became aroused, but at the same time the fast paced beating of my heart I got the thought of, 'Wow this is really happening??' I took a moment to check her out, admiring her legs and how well her hair and makeup were and I just thought what a sexy Goddess. As I stood there stunned in the moment my curiosity overcame me about them and I asked her, "Speaking of you guys, I haven't heard anything in awhile, how are things?" She produced this smile and she raised her eyebrows, her expression was telling, but she wasn't saying anything, at least not saying anything fast enough for me so I shot in, "Babes!!" She gave a short nervous chuckle and said things had been good. I asked her with a hint of shyness and nervousness if anything had happened. She kept her smile and shook her head telling me nothing had happened and before I could even bring it up she reassured me she would tell me if something had happened. I took a deep sigh of relief, not so much that they hadn't done anything, but maybe relief of I didn't want that moment to be the moment she told me I was a cuckold. I asked, "So everything's good though?" Her response was still with a smile telling me, "Oh yeah." I said, "Good." and gave her a kiss, but it was light as to not mess up her lipstick. Few minutes later the door knocked and our guests arrived which took up the rest of the night for us.

So it seems things are still going, but at a molasses pace, and that is understandable. The last two days of just getting a little bit of insight has been hot but the whole thing still seems so surreal. I like the idea of sharing more through texts as she may be more open to sharing things in texts. I think I'll suggest to her sending me either screenshots of texts she's sent, or if she's sent him any photos sending them to me too. It would be hot if she sent me a photo of the selfies she took while we were driving last week. But overall maybe keeping some of the conversation to texts until she gets more comfortable openly talking about it could be best and may get me invovled more. And I'll be honest, I too feel the awkwardness and nervousness of talking about it in person with her, which was apparent when I froze in bringing up his name to her.

[BallSpanking]

Everything you mentioned points to forward movement, particularly her excitement in wearing those jeans (for him).

The new year is just getting underway, it would be a good time to suggest to her she could adapt her routine and schedule to new, more useful times, so she can pursue her interests more readily. You, of course, would be happy to adapt.

[newaussiecuck]

Well done Breaker, that was perfect! Nice and casual but you got the info you needed. You reassured her you're still good with it all. You also conveyed your nervousness and apprehension about it through freezing and not being able to mention his name. This was all natural, real and unrehearsed. I'm sure she took note and it would have been very reassuring for her, showing you care enough about her to be shaken and unsettled (remember she had previously conveyed her wish that you be more jealous), yet you also reassured her you are excited for it to continue and find out more.

I have an idea. You could let her know that you're still really excited and on board about all this, but you're also still feeling your way and coming to terms with it all yourself. That you've dreamed about and wanted it for so long, but it's all still new to you in reality also. Something along those lines anyway in your own words just building off your earlier conversation.

Here's the idea though. You could then say that it would really help you to process it all and become comfortable with it if she were to include you more. Even if it's just little things or showing you occasional texts or something. Just say you want to keep in the loop and want to talk with her about him more often as it will help you come to terms with it so that it won't be as big a shock or harder to deal with once it happens for real.

Reassure her that you very much want it still but it would feel more real and easier for you in the end of she includes you along the way. It won't be such a shock to your system once it happens if you're more prepared for it along the way. Ask if you can talk with her about it each day, even if briefly, and don't pressure her to share anything she's not comfortable with. I think she'll be receptive to this. Show me a wife that doesn't want to talk to her husband more.

Just some ideas you can take and adapt as you see fit.

I think at this point it's OK to show your vulnerable side, it will give her the power and confidence over you to continue. I'm not saying you're like this, but you won't come across as cold with a 'just fuck him already' attitude. Instead you'll be her excited yet vulnerable "bitch" that she can enjoy toying with. She can have fun including you in her own way. I think talking about it even briefly each day will help it to become real and OK for both of you.

[Breaker445]

newaussie - that is a good idea! and I think you are right. I'll have to think of a way to bring that up because I think that would be helpful.

Yesterday she again got new workout clothes that I had to find rather than her showing me. I found a bag in our room where she was hanging out and I asked her what was in it. From what I could see in I got really excited because it was black and looked shiny so I thought maybe it was leather pants or something leather, so my question came across as excited. She said, "Oh! It's some workout stuff" She pulled a black jacket and a t-shirt out of the bag and asked, "You like?" I said I did and told her they looked good. She tried on the jacket and she was already wearing these other workout pants that I love. They're an interesting grayish/green color and are ultra tight so it shows off her lower body incredibly. I dont know if it's the unique color that makes it look tigther and more form fitting than her other spandex pants, but these remind me of the leg portion of my gimp suit I have they are so tight. Anyways, she tried the jacket on with these pants and I couldn't hold back my reaction as the jacket just barely covered her waistband leaving her entire legs and butt exposed in these tight pants. She laughed and asked if I liked it. She later went to the gym wearing a completely different outfit, but the noteable thing about her gym trip last night was the time frame, not only did she go earlier in the evening, but it was for a short time.

I brought up to her the texting idea. Nothing specific, I didnt come out and say text me screenshots or any photos you guys send, but it was very broad, like asking if she would want to talk about things more over text, or give me an update through text. She was very open to the idea and told me she liked that idea. So hopefully this means she'll go with it and maybe bring it up more about what's going on through texts? She really did seem to like the idea and of course the hope would be over time it just becomes more comfortable for both of us and it rolls over into more conversation in person. I could see it working well!

When she got back from the gym we finally had a relaxing night to ourselves, but the problem was finally having a down and relaxing night I was exhausted. So when we got to bed she made a comment that it had been awhile since we had done anything and I agreed, it's been more than a week now, but I came across as being tired and I was. She was a little disgusted in knowing I was too tired and knew there wasnt going to be any bedtime play. But I laid there, my back to her and she laid there for a minute or two but I could tell she was awake. Then I heard her grab her phone and she slightly sat up in the bed. I continued to lay there with my back facing her, but I wasn't laying too far from her. I suddenly felt the sheets slowly move behind me and I could tell there was an arm motion from her, she paused and I could feel and hear her lean over and look at me as to see if I was asleep yet. At this time I was pretending to be asleep because I was very intrigued to see if she was doing what I thought she was doing. I heard and felt her lean back after glancing at me and again felt the sheets slowly move and her breathing get a little more heavy. I could also hear her thumb tapping her phone screen from time to time and the movements from her arm and sheets became more noticeable. I laid there so badly wanting to turn around and maybe peak at what she may be looking at, but I knew any movement from me she would stop. So I laid there enjoying the whole thing. Suddenly she was done, the moving stopped and she stayed on her phone for a few minutes more before putting it down and going to sleep herself. It was a very hot and exciting moment, several things ran through my head, like was she looking at pictures? what pictures? pictures he sent or pictures of him? or pictures of hot guys online? Was she looking at porn? Or simply texting him? It all ran through my head and was exciting.

Hopefully the texting suggestion takes off. Everytime I get a text from her now my heart races in anticipation before I open it.

[BallSpanking]

It is not clear from your description whether her 'arm movement' implied she was masturbating, or texting. Also, texting would be more interactive than just scrolling through pictures. Either way, it's probably a positive sign she was 'occupying herself' after checking you were asleep. It would be exciting indeed if had been masturbating while texting Dylan, but maybe she was just scrolling through photos. In any case, that is definitely progress, and there is no longer any question as to whether she is into it. She is.

[Breaker445]

It is not clear from your description whether her 'arm movement' implied she was masturbating, or texting. Also, texting would be more interactive than just scrolling through pictures. Either way, it's probably a positive sign she was 'occupying herself' after checking you were asleep. It would be exciting indeed if had been masturbating while texting Dylan, but maybe she was just scrolling through photos. In any case, that is definitely progress, and there is no longer any question as to whether she is into it. She is.

From what I could hear and felt she was rubbing herself with one hand and holding her phone with the other.

[BallSpanking]

Shopping is an aphrodisiac for her, take her to VS, and suggest baby-dolls for her to wear for Dylan.
She will pee with excitement.

[hornedhubby]

You should be offering to eat her pussy every night before she goes to sleep, rather than letting her masturbate. She actually rebuked you for not enough oral a couple weeks ago. C'mon, man!

[newaussiecuck]

My very strong feeling is that she was horny and really wanting a good fucking. She was disappointed and "disgusted" she couldn't get it from you so was wishing she could be getting it from Dylan instead. I believe she was looking at photos of Dylan while getting herself off to thinking of him sliding his cock in and out of her pussy.

I've been there in your shoes pretending to be asleep while my wife has gotten herself off discretely while laying beside me. As I'm sure you realise it's as hot as fuck! In my case though it was after purposely denying me. She wasn't getting herself off because she didn't get my penis. My hard penis had just been in her hand. She knew I was hard and ready for her, but she didn't want it. She was getting herself off because she was horny from keeping me denied and wanting her.

Great progress and these are all great signs.

[joel68]

Since it appears that things are moving in the right direction I was wondering. Does anyone here have any odds or idea about how long it will be until she actually gets fucked?

[Goodboy66]

I'm thinking Valentine's day, it's only 6 weeks to wait.

[jps18]

I think if Breaker keeps letting her down , she's going to say fuck this , I'm fucking Dylan . With a craving for cock , and not getting any , she will take what is available to her . Dylan is definitely available ! Good luck Breaker ! Better luck Mrs. B. !

[frenchy]

I think my bet would be that she fucks Dylan before January is out.

[Tryn]

I mean no disrespect, Breaker, but I think she’s already fucked Dylan & hasn’t admitted it due to conflicted feelings. I think that she knows she can (and I think she has) but also feels she doesn’t have to disclose that if she doesn’t want to. She’s in control of disclosure, and everything else for that matter. I think she feels awkward about admitting it to Breaker out of fear of damaging what she has. I think she prefers it to be her fun & fears bringing Breaker in on her fun will diminish her fun. I don’t think she’s trying to hurt Breaker, rather preserve her new erotic thrill for a while, justifying it by thinking it’s what Breaker wants. I just think in her mind she has full autonomy without any obligations of full disclosure. Again, not in a cruel way or anything negative, but rather in a “I get what want because my husband likes it that way” sort of way. If I’m wrong, I think it’ll be before V-day when their schedules allow for it.

[newaussiecuck]

I mean no disrespect, Breaker, but I think she’s already fucked Dylan & hasn’t admitted it due to conflicted feelings. I think that she knows she can (and I think she has) but also feels she doesn’t have to disclose that if she doesn’t want to. She’s in control of disclosure, and everything else for that matter. I think she feels awkward about admitting it to Breaker out of fear of damaging what she has. I think she prefers it to be her fun & fears bringing Breaker in on her fun will diminish her fun. I don’t think she’s trying to hurt Breaker, rather preserve her new erotic thrill for a while, justifying it by thinking it’s what Breaker wants. I just think in her mind she has full autonomy without any obligations of full disclosure. Again, not in a cruel way or anything negative, but rather in a “I get what want because my husband likes it that way” sort of way. If I’m wrong, I think it’ll be before V-day when their schedules allow for it.

I tend to agree and I'm not blaming Mrs Breaker, more likely a miscommunication. I also believe she was given the green light with no requirement for full disclosure. Breaker even said as much on the very first post of this thread:

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She has said before that it would be easy for her to cheat and she knows I would love it. I find the thought extremely hot, I wouldn't care if she cheated and didn't tell me about it, as in I snoop through her e-mail or phone and find messages with a guy, I would probably keep the knowledge to myself and either wait for her to tell me, or simply me knowing would be hot enough and maybe even hotter knowing she was keeping it from me. Don't know, the entire concept just is incredibly hot and has been a fantasy for years that I hope one day comes true, or at the very least, she is open enough about the idea that she finds it a hot fantasy as well and just fantasizing plays along.
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She may have even been confused and thought it was an open marriage type thing where "don't ask don't tell" is a common requirement.

I think she was fucking Dylan a year ago when Breaker tasted latex while licking her pussy a full week after they last had sex. I think she broke it off for whatever reason soon after. Maybe after the January 2018 comment when she might have thought she'd been found out.



22nd January 2018:
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"Too bad I could easily have a boyfriend and you'd never know about it." I looked at her with a bit of confusion and told her, "No you couldn't babe." She shot back at me, "It would be so easy, I could easily hide it." I chuckled at her comment and told her there was no way she could hide it and that I would find out. I looked away from her after I made the comment that I would find out. I could feel her giving a smile and she made this uncomfortable type laugh. The uncomfortable type laugh was followed up with an awkward silence. I kept quiet myself, with my mind racing around the excitement of this awkward moment she had created. After a moment of the awkwardness she tried to change the subject, but as she started to talk she stumbled over her words. She was literally stuttering her words as she tried to change the topic. I sat there, trying to not make a big deal out of the whole thing I let her work through the change of topic and when she got onto the new topic I followed along trying to act like I didn't notice that entirely awkward moment.
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I think the reason that Dylan knows that Breaker knows and is OK with it is because she had to convince Dylan as to why she wanted to fuck him again after breaking it off. I think she broke it off with Dylan telling him she didn't want to cheat on Breaker anymore, maybe even suggesting she's worried Breaker has found out. I think to get him back she's had to tell him that Breaker is OK with her fucking Dylan.

It may even be that she hasn't fucked him yet this 2nd time around (but probably has), but I think she's still struggling with how to do it with Breaker's knowledge.

It would also explain why she's finding it hard to disclose things to Breaker, she's not sure what she can disclose without revealing that she already fucked him a year ago.

Just my thoughts, and I could be wrong. Either way I think you have to accept it without putting the blame on Mrs Breaker. She was only doing what you wanted. Hopefully you can work towards getting it all out in the open, and this can be something you share together.

[Breaker445]

Thanks everyone, Tryn and newaussie bring up some interesting points that sometimes I find myself thinking that way, but then I just can't wrap my head around how if she has done something why she hasn't at least teased it in the bedroom to test my reaction. Granted there hasn't been any bedroom time for more than a week, but I would have just thought by now after all the talks we've had, her saying she'll do it and going on a lunch date and having at least one known meeting at the gym she would have hinted or teased at something. At the same time maybe all these years I've gotten my hopes up for something to happen only to find out I was way off, but that was back then and things are different now. I know in your guys' last posts you sort of explain reasons she may not, but still my hunch is she'd at least hint or tease toward something.

Yesterday I had hopes we'd have a night in, but shortly after we got home she asked if I wanted to go hang out with some friends as we were invited. I was hesitant to say yes just because it has felt like we have been on the go every night for weeks and I'd love just alone time at our place, and we had plan to go out tonight as well, but of course I said sure because it sounded like she wanted to go. She got ready and absolutely stunned me when she came out. The plans ended up being going out for dinner with a couple friends and than going over to one of their places, but she came out with a pony tail, dark red lipstick, a black sweater, tight jeans and her black leather pointed toe boots. But she looked conservatively dominant and sexy. We went out had dinner with our friends and went back to one of their places to hang out. Wine was being served and since I was the designated driver I didn't have anything, but my wife had a glass or two, or three and the conversation started to get very interesting as more wine glasses were being poured amongst everyone. There were two of us there that didn't have anything to drink, but the rest of the party didn't seem to have a limit. Like I said the conversation got interesting many times and I don't know exactly how it got brought up, but one of the women started talking about being on vacation at a beach and some guy commenting on her feet and offering to massage and kiss her feet. As she was telling the story she told it like it was a crazy story and there was an implied undertone that she obviously thought this guy was weird for asking and suggesting such a thing and she thought feet were gross. Well my wife blurts in like she couldn't believe she didn't take the guy up on the offer. She said, "I'd go ahead and let him lick my feet if he wanted to!" she added with a little chuckle, "Why not?" I was stunned sitting there as everyone in the room started laughing and I noticed some of the wives were like rooting my wife on with her stance.

As the night went on the conversations got even more adult and unpredictable. A conversation about BDSM popped up and my wife was leading the conversation with her knowledge about it, even getting into a little debate about some details about it with another wife there. I noticed when my wife talked about it she conveyed it as no big deal. It was an interesting night to say the least. Maybe at this stage of where we are at these little moments and details are really not much or that big of a deal or meaningful, but I definitely find them interesting.

As it got close to midnight the party that it had become started to dissolve and we headed back to our place. We headed straight to bed after we got back and practically right after we got into bed she grabbed my dick and started rubbing it, giving me wet kisses. I was very excited at this point thinking it was leading somewhere. She asked super sexy, "You want it?" and I begged to her that I did. Still rubbing me and periodically squeezing it she said, "Mmmmmm." She listened to my body language change into full on in the mood and then she told me, "I don't know, maybe we shouldn't, I'm tired." I asked disappointedly if she was sure and she said, "Yeah, I'm really tired." She was still rubbing me and at times squeezing it. I suggested we could save tonight and just make tomorrow really naughty. She excitedly replied that was a good idea and said if I was lucky enough we could do it in the afternoon too. We laid there as I assumed trying to fall asleep but she kept a tight grip on my crotch. I don't know if she intended it to be, but that was one heck of a tease and denial. I woke up this morning excited what the day may bring knowing tonight we have another get together to go to, but so far absolutely nothing in the naughty department.

[seydonar]

She really seems to be into the BDSM stuff. You gotta put your balls on the line and start submitting and do everything in your power to make her life easier. It’s just a thought, it’s been a fascinating story to follow.

[Breaker445]

She really seems to be into the BDSM stuff. You gotta put your balls on the line and start submitting and do everything in your power to make her life easier. It’s just a thought, it’s been a fascinating story to follow.

Thank you. Really to me she's never been into the BDSM stuff, which is why I was a bit surprised at her stance and undertone, but I think she associates BDSM to femdom in many ways, so that was why she seemed to be for it and express all this knowledge she had about it. But even though a night we had together that was centered on femdom/BDSM type theme was no doubt one of the hottest nights she's had she isn't one to bring up a D/s session for us. It seems like for a night like that to happen it's always me that suggests it. I also have a chastity cage that she never tells me to wear. So as far as her being into BDSM, I wish, and if she was I wish she'd bring it up more and I guess in the context of D/s she demand we do that more. But I think it may just be her thought that BDSM and femdom go together and she certainly enjoys a lot of the femdom aspects.

[BallSpanking]

I get the feeling she would like a new (sexier) wardrobe...

[newaussiecuck]

I think you need to be spending some serious time on your knees between her legs. You were tired the other night and couldn't get it up, but she was horny. Perfect time to get on your knees. No matter how tired you are you can still perform with your tongue. Doesn't matter if you don't feel like it. That isn't your concern. Your Goddess wanted your service and its your duty as her self-proclaimed submissive to provide it in any way that you're capable, and as long as it's what she wishes, it's her choice. Tongue, fingers, dildo or a combination of the these (fingers and tongue).

You need to perfect your oral skills so that she has something she needs from you. I have a feeling you won't be able to compete with Dylan in the fucking department (she's already expressed many times disappointment in your performance), but I'm sure she would love to be getting good oral, and she's already expressed her desire for this. You, as her submissive and loving husband, need to listen and take note.

It would be helpful to keep your penis out of her vagina as much as possible, unless and until she indicates that she wants it. However, each and every night you should offer to provide oral.

[corey22901]

Breaker, rather than wait for her to tell you to put on your chastity device, you put it on yourself.

Let her discover that you are wearing it while you are playing on the couch and she will ask why now?

Suggest you let her know that you would like to make it a week where she is orally served and you are denied. Let her know that one of your new years' resolutions is to become MUCH better at orally serving her and the only way you can get better is to practice.

With all the BDSM now, say that at some point she will make you a cuckold and that you would expect some form of denial when she is with him. The chastity device serves as your mutual training device.

Make it light and fun. Give her the key and let her know she can end it anytime. Remind her she bought it and it seems now is the best time.

Just my suggestion, get a better cage too. The one you have is way too big and there are so many better ones on Ebay/Amazon.