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Thanks a lot for your suggestions and concern.
We had a long chat yesterday about how things were during the past two months. I am not going to list the whole one hour conversation here but here is the cliff notes version of it.
I did express my concern over her behavior towards me for the past couple of months. I told her that her lack of communication was upsetting and I was not sure where our marriage was heading. I couldn't ask her why she changed the passcode as I didn't want to give her an impression that I was snooping.
She told me that the past two months have been very confusing for her. She reiterated that she loved me more than anything but then I asked her about treating me like a stranger the past two months. She was initially mad at me after the James debacle, for suggesting the whole cuckolding thing and just wanted to compose herself for a couple of weeks. She told me that she mostly thought about some conflicting feelings. She said the texting phase was very exciting and felt unreal but when she met James in real life, she had second thoughts and really didn't want to proceed. I then asked her about the online affair. She told me that she had huge crush on him while she was attending her highschool (He is 42 years old now) and she mentioned that she just flirting with him in the beginning. He knew that she was married to me and I saw in the chats that they both admitted to have dead bedrooms. I asked her why she did not mention that she was talking to Tom (her teacher) to me during the past month. She was a bit quiet and then mentioned that she just wanted it to be a texting thing and never intended to meet him in person. She just liked the feeling of texting and she was sure that she would never meet him. I told her that she didn't even let me hug her and she didn't reply anything to that. Finally she admitted that she felt very weird dealing with two men at the same time. She was beating around the bush but finally admitted that she felt that she would be cheating on Tom if she had done anything with me. I was dumbfounded and reminded that she was cheating on me with him in the first place. She didn't say anything after that.
I asked her what are we going to do now. She told me that she enjoyed the thrill of texting but when she meets people in real life, she freaks out and tries to end things. She says that she gets very anxious when things get a bit physical. She told me again that she loved me and she will communicate and be more open in the future. I asked her if she wants to continue the affair with Tom. She said no. she told me that she wants to meet someone different in future but she needs to focus on work till the end of the year as she kind of slacked off during the past month.
I do not think she was 100% honest with me. I still don't know why she didn't want to touch me while she had the affair. But she has been pretty open with me since last week. She even teased about cuckolding once (she asked me if I would like to see her date some hollywood actor). I also learnt that she has no qualms about dating an older man and that too a conservative guy (Tom seems to be a gun nut).
We had a long chat yesterday about how things were during the past two months. I am not going to list the whole one hour conversation here but here is the cliff notes version of it.
I did express my concern over her behavior towards me for the past couple of months. I told her that her lack of communication was upsetting and I was not sure where our marriage was heading. I couldn't ask her why she changed the passcode as I didn't want to give her an impression that I was snooping.
She told me that the past two months have been very confusing for her. She reiterated that she loved me more than anything but then I asked her about treating me like a stranger the past two months. She was initially mad at me after the James debacle, for suggesting the whole cuckolding thing and just wanted to compose herself for a couple of weeks. She told me that she mostly thought about some conflicting feelings. She said the texting phase was very exciting and felt unreal but when she met James in real life, she had second thoughts and really didn't want to proceed. I then asked her about the online affair. She told me that she had huge crush on him while she was attending her highschool (He is 42 years old now) and she mentioned that she just flirting with him in the beginning. He knew that she was married to me and I saw in the chats that they both admitted to have dead bedrooms. I asked her why she did not mention that she was talking to Tom (her teacher) to me during the past month. She was a bit quiet and then mentioned that she just wanted it to be a texting thing and never intended to meet him in person. She just liked the feeling of texting and she was sure that she would never meet him. I told her that she didn't even let me hug her and she didn't reply anything to that. Finally she admitted that she felt very weird dealing with two men at the same time. She was beating around the bush but finally admitted that she felt that she would be cheating on Tom if she had done anything with me. I was dumbfounded and reminded that she was cheating on me with him in the first place. She didn't say anything after that.
I asked her what are we going to do now. She told me that she enjoyed the thrill of texting but when she meets people in real life, she freaks out and tries to end things. She says that she gets very anxious when things get a bit physical. She told me again that she loved me and she will communicate and be more open in the future. I asked her if she wants to continue the affair with Tom. She said no. she told me that she wants to meet someone different in future but she needs to focus on work till the end of the year as she kind of slacked off during the past month.
I do not think she was 100% honest with me. I still don't know why she didn't want to touch me while she had the affair. But she has been pretty open with me since last week. She even teased about cuckolding once (she asked me if I would like to see her date some hollywood actor). I also learnt that she has no qualms about dating an older man and that too a conservative guy (Tom seems to be a gun nut).
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I had felt this before when you first described her behaviour once her date went bust.
She lost respect and confidence in you as "the man in her life". She has a certain degree of fondness and attachment towards you now.
Tom was a dead end. He is an elderly married man. But there will be other men (and in her mind, you put her up to this LS). She is a one man woman. She can't be intimate with 2 men.
If you want to keep her, you need to blow this cuck thing for the foreseeable future and expressly tell her that you want to secure your mutual relationship and intimacy first. It's no good just "not bringing it up " now. You have to actively and passionately woo her back.
She lost respect and confidence in you as "the man in her life". She has a certain degree of fondness and attachment towards you now.
Tom was a dead end. He is an elderly married man. But there will be other men (and in her mind, you put her up to this LS). She is a one man woman. She can't be intimate with 2 men.
If you want to keep her, you need to blow this cuck thing for the foreseeable future and expressly tell her that you want to secure your mutual relationship and intimacy first. It's no good just "not bringing it up " now. You have to actively and passionately woo her back.
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I had written a pretty long comment but I'll just cut it short and say: I don't trust Lauren. And be prepared to be denied sex totally if she ever becomes a hotwife. Are you up for that?
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Something doesn't add up here. Keep your eyes and ears open and continue to work on your communication together. I'd listen to Sandy. Work on your relationship first.
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I think RunDanny knows "the score" without everybody having to tell him over and over. Hope the two of them end up in a better spot, together.
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Well, I am glad he keeps returning here and updating us. I am happy to hear that they are not at this time getting divorced.
Very difficult for me to figure her out. She’s pissed at him because of a bad experience with the first guy. Then she basically shuts her husband out of her life but at the same time initiates an online affair with an old teacher from her past. And then meets up with him.
I wonder if she really knows what she wants at this point. I hope they can resolve their issues, remain married, and move forward.
Hopefully the next post will provide some more positive news.
Very difficult for me to figure her out. She’s pissed at him because of a bad experience with the first guy. Then she basically shuts her husband out of her life but at the same time initiates an online affair with an old teacher from her past. And then meets up with him.
I wonder if she really knows what she wants at this point. I hope they can resolve their issues, remain married, and move forward.
Hopefully the next post will provide some more positive news.
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from all i've seen over the course of danny's reporting, i am of the opinion lauren is not a hotwife, not going to be a hotwife, but is a cheater ! and we all know on this forum that there is world of difference between a fucking hotwife and a fucking cheating wife, i.e. a strong thriving, erotic and successful marriage and a marriage that dies from lack of trust.
i actually had had hopes and expectations for lauren, but i have to agree with small............i don't trust her either.
i actually had had hopes and expectations for lauren, but i have to agree with small............i don't trust her either.
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Im having a hard time wrapping my head around all this. Danny i think you need to think deeper because her behavior is not consistent with everything that happened. This is another reason i warn any couple going into this to take baby steps and don’t dive in the deep end right away.
Let’s backtrack, first she flips out when you initially bring up hotwifing and gives you the cold shoulder, slowly she warms up to it and she is the one to bring it up to you. Most of us had that same experience actually and its a pretty normal response. She goes on a date and “makes out” and gets a little physical and suddenly has buyers remorse and is mad at you for it and shuts you out. Ok, but in this time she changes her phone password and starts an online affair while still not communicating with you and makes out with the guy, feels more guilty that he is married than she does about going behind your back?
I hate to be the one to point out the elephant in the room, but did you stop and consider that she is only giving half the truth? Perhaps she slept with the first guy or more likely ended up having sex with the second guy and now feels guilty? I am not being judgmental at all but being realistic and objective.
It is paramount for any hotwife or cuckold relationship to work your marriage needs to be on 200% solid ground. Communication is the utmost important facet of all of this and it clearly lacks.
You need to sit down with her and talk to her, she owes this to you now. You may have brought up a fantasy that seemed odd to her and she made you feel bad for it but she acted in it behind your back. Come from a place of empathy and tell her you love her no matter what and express to her no matter what the truth is it won’t change how you feel. You also need to be prepared to handle the shock if you do find out she had sex with either guy or both behind your back, and you need to resolve what your reaction and path forward will be if that does come to light.
Ive been in the lifestyle a while now and ive seen a lot of scenarios when this stuff takes off, often times when a woman has complete freedom to be intimate outside her marriage and still choses to hide it from her spouse, its no longer about sex but about control. I wish you luck my friend. Marriage always comes before the lifestyle, its not for everyone.
Let’s backtrack, first she flips out when you initially bring up hotwifing and gives you the cold shoulder, slowly she warms up to it and she is the one to bring it up to you. Most of us had that same experience actually and its a pretty normal response. She goes on a date and “makes out” and gets a little physical and suddenly has buyers remorse and is mad at you for it and shuts you out. Ok, but in this time she changes her phone password and starts an online affair while still not communicating with you and makes out with the guy, feels more guilty that he is married than she does about going behind your back?
I hate to be the one to point out the elephant in the room, but did you stop and consider that she is only giving half the truth? Perhaps she slept with the first guy or more likely ended up having sex with the second guy and now feels guilty? I am not being judgmental at all but being realistic and objective.
It is paramount for any hotwife or cuckold relationship to work your marriage needs to be on 200% solid ground. Communication is the utmost important facet of all of this and it clearly lacks.
You need to sit down with her and talk to her, she owes this to you now. You may have brought up a fantasy that seemed odd to her and she made you feel bad for it but she acted in it behind your back. Come from a place of empathy and tell her you love her no matter what and express to her no matter what the truth is it won’t change how you feel. You also need to be prepared to handle the shock if you do find out she had sex with either guy or both behind your back, and you need to resolve what your reaction and path forward will be if that does come to light.
Ive been in the lifestyle a while now and ive seen a lot of scenarios when this stuff takes off, often times when a woman has complete freedom to be intimate outside her marriage and still choses to hide it from her spouse, its no longer about sex but about control. I wish you luck my friend. Marriage always comes before the lifestyle, its not for everyone.
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Mkliny,
Great insight. I hope he returns, reads your post, and talks to her.
I didn’t think of the possibility that she may have fucked one or both of those guys. Interesting take.
I guess we will know a little more going down the road.
Great insight. I hope he returns, reads your post, and talks to her.
I didn’t think of the possibility that she may have fucked one or both of those guys. Interesting take.
I guess we will know a little more going down the road.
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Danny - just curious how all this has impacted you and your fantasies of being cuckolded. Now that you know she was attracted to this guy and even made out with him does that feature in your fantasies or your masturbation at all or is it too painful?
Not to be too crude but: When you picture her naked and on her back below him and him on top of her thrusting away - how do you feel given the betrayal and lies?
Not to be too crude but: When you picture her naked and on her back below him and him on top of her thrusting away - how do you feel given the betrayal and lies?
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Hey folks. Nothing to report. We are both busy with work. I am having some mental health issues reappearing (not related to this whole cuckolding thing) and I am just taking it easy with work and at home. Lauren has been very supportive the past few days and she reminded me again the person whom I fell in love with. If anything significant happens, I will let you folks know.
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Take good care of yourself - don't worry about us, you can catch us up when you get back.
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Hey folks. Adam is back at our house. He needs to stay for a few weeks again with us. Lauren was okay with the move.
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So, what are your thoughts on the situation?
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Thanks for the update Dan
I can’t help but feel that this is an opportunity for all three of you and it’s one that will get taken.
A small remark by you to Adam that Lauren is frustrated due to your ED will get him making his plans. And then giving them the opportunity to be alone together, preferably in the evening could well give him the chance to take things forward. In view of everything this has gone on in the last couple of months, Lauren might well be thinking on the same lines and succumb to any advance by Adam.
Adam may ask you for permission to make an advance on Lauren.
You can consent but protect yourself by making sure that nothing can be traced back to you.
I can’t help but feel that this is an opportunity for all three of you and it’s one that will get taken.
A small remark by you to Adam that Lauren is frustrated due to your ED will get him making his plans. And then giving them the opportunity to be alone together, preferably in the evening could well give him the chance to take things forward. In view of everything this has gone on in the last couple of months, Lauren might well be thinking on the same lines and succumb to any advance by Adam.
Adam may ask you for permission to make an advance on Lauren.
You can consent but protect yourself by making sure that nothing can be traced back to you.
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Howdy folks!
I do not have any updates yet. Sorry for being boring.
I already told a few people in PMs but Lauren I had sex only once in the past couple of months. I had a series of panic attacks reoccur (I had a similar episode a few years ago early in our relationship) and I am on some SSRIs which kind of killed my sex drive. Lauren has been very understanding about this. Being in a swing state we have been overwhelmed/busy with volunteering for the upcoming election. Lauren has been super wired in the past couple of weeks due to this.
Our communication is back to where it was. We go for runs together again just to get rid of her anxiety. We made lot of dinners together and even went to a couple of movies (anything to keep us distracted till tomorrow).
I think she and I will have a sense of relief after tomorrow. I am just feeling bad about my performance issues which inturn fuels my anxiety. I think this is just a blip and things will get back to normal soon.
Adam said he might have to stay for a couple of months this time, as he had exhausted his savings completely.
I do not have any updates yet. Sorry for being boring.
I already told a few people in PMs but Lauren I had sex only once in the past couple of months. I had a series of panic attacks reoccur (I had a similar episode a few years ago early in our relationship) and I am on some SSRIs which kind of killed my sex drive. Lauren has been very understanding about this. Being in a swing state we have been overwhelmed/busy with volunteering for the upcoming election. Lauren has been super wired in the past couple of weeks due to this.
Our communication is back to where it was. We go for runs together again just to get rid of her anxiety. We made lot of dinners together and even went to a couple of movies (anything to keep us distracted till tomorrow).
I think she and I will have a sense of relief after tomorrow. I am just feeling bad about my performance issues which inturn fuels my anxiety. I think this is just a blip and things will get back to normal soon.
Adam said he might have to stay for a couple of months this time, as he had exhausted his savings completely.
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Thanks for the update. Any chance that Adam staying over could move things along with your wife? Are you ready for it if there's some progress?
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Hey folks,
Some news that is probably interesting for all of you.
We went to a nice breakfast place today morning and I saw the teacher that she was talking to with two of his kids. It was a coincidence and nothing happened but there was a surprised look on his face when he saw me. He just said "Hi" to Lauren and me, and introduced her to his kids and then just left us to continue with our breakfast. I just gave a smile and we finished our breakfast. We took this whole week off and i am glad we did. We walked around a bit and I decided to lay all my cards down.
For the past couple of days, I was a mess and I decided to just express my desires to her about Adam without beating around the bush. I first thanked her for being understanding about my medical issues and being my rock. I told her that she should have sex with Adam. She asked, "What do you mean?"
I don't want to write down exactly what I told her here as it would be too long but she surprised me a bit again when she mentioned that she has been doing more research into cuckolding. I was more surprised that she still didn't put up any objections to my "Adam" suggestion.
She was the one who told me that for a successful cuckold marriage, communication is key. I agreed with her whole heartedly.
I asked her about what's gonna happen now. She told me that she doesn't mind sleeping with Adam but she wants to do it on her terms. I didn't exactly understand what that meant. She elaborated that she would like to take things at her pace and she doesn't want me to force her to do anything. No directions or any kind of pressure from my side. In return, she said she will tell everything that is happening between them.
She also told me that she might stop stop sleeping/trying to sleep with him at any point of time and I wouldn't have any say in that matter. She also mentioned that if I am uncomfortable with their relationship, I should speak up. She told me that our marriage comes before anything that will happen/ happens with Adam and if anything threatens our marriage, she said she will stop her relationship with Adam immediately. She told me that I also have to honest with her about how their relationship is affecting me.
I asked her when is she going to put her plan into action and she said that I failed her conditions immediately (no pressure/directions). She then told me that she will tell me everything in detail if/when something happens.
I always knew her to be very decisive but I had never seen her this confident and clear.
So thanks for being with me for the past few months and listening to my diatribes. I think I am going to be a cuck soon. I will also update you folks her journey with Adam. `
Some news that is probably interesting for all of you.
We went to a nice breakfast place today morning and I saw the teacher that she was talking to with two of his kids. It was a coincidence and nothing happened but there was a surprised look on his face when he saw me. He just said "Hi" to Lauren and me, and introduced her to his kids and then just left us to continue with our breakfast. I just gave a smile and we finished our breakfast. We took this whole week off and i am glad we did. We walked around a bit and I decided to lay all my cards down.
For the past couple of days, I was a mess and I decided to just express my desires to her about Adam without beating around the bush. I first thanked her for being understanding about my medical issues and being my rock. I told her that she should have sex with Adam. She asked, "What do you mean?"
I don't want to write down exactly what I told her here as it would be too long but she surprised me a bit again when she mentioned that she has been doing more research into cuckolding. I was more surprised that she still didn't put up any objections to my "Adam" suggestion.
She was the one who told me that for a successful cuckold marriage, communication is key. I agreed with her whole heartedly.
I asked her about what's gonna happen now. She told me that she doesn't mind sleeping with Adam but she wants to do it on her terms. I didn't exactly understand what that meant. She elaborated that she would like to take things at her pace and she doesn't want me to force her to do anything. No directions or any kind of pressure from my side. In return, she said she will tell everything that is happening between them.
She also told me that she might stop stop sleeping/trying to sleep with him at any point of time and I wouldn't have any say in that matter. She also mentioned that if I am uncomfortable with their relationship, I should speak up. She told me that our marriage comes before anything that will happen/ happens with Adam and if anything threatens our marriage, she said she will stop her relationship with Adam immediately. She told me that I also have to honest with her about how their relationship is affecting me.
I asked her when is she going to put her plan into action and she said that I failed her conditions immediately (no pressure/directions). She then told me that she will tell me everything in detail if/when something happens.
I always knew her to be very decisive but I had never seen her this confident and clear.
So thanks for being with me for the past few months and listening to my diatribes. I think I am going to be a cuck soon. I will also update you folks her journey with Adam. `
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Thanks for the update Danny. Looks like Lauren is a confident woman who knows what she wants and when she wants it. Good on her to keep comms open and letting you know that she will decide the pace and course.
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Very exciting development
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i personally find this news absolutely thrilling for you and lauren !!!
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and furthermore, when lauren finds herself coming on adam's dick, or somebody else's for that matter, i'm sure i'm not the only one here looking forward to you telling us how hot it all makes you for her wanton naughty pussy. thrilling is an understatement. what you have coming your way is miles beyond thrilling !! wow!! can't wait !!!
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one more thing danny ..... once lauren starts fucking adam, ask her if you can send us a pic of her riding adam's dick ??