That was more or less it.
I don’t want to pile in on him. There are several groups on this forum. Those who see doom in every corner and assume if it’s nkt done their way that it’s wrong. There is another group who would cheerlead you to jump off a bridge regardless of the risk. I try to straddle both. I am excited and jealous but also concerned. My biggest concern is how little we know about Dylan.
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FNQ, I think Dylan is single. Breaker has posted that he has seen his social media but he wasn’t totally sure it was him. I’m not sure what else he said about him because almost 90 pages it’s hard to remember everything.
She said he had more stamina. Maybe he could come back on and repost what he knows about him for some of thise who haven’t followed this since the beginning and don’t want to read everything.
She said he had more stamina. Maybe he could come back on and repost what he knows about him for some of thise who haven’t followed this since the beginning and don’t want to read everything.
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newaussiecuck
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Hi Breaker, I don't think anyone is wanting to say I told you so. I think we all care a lot about you and Mrs Breaker and hope that it all works out for the best. There's as many different opinions as there are people. We're all working off the limited information we have. Only you know the true situation (well at least better than us). However hopefully you'll be able to read all the opinions and advice and see how they fit your situation.
If it eases your mind at all, my take on what you've written is that she's REALLY shy about it all. She obviously LOVES it, but for whatever reason can't talk with you about it. Even the other night last week when she was wishing Dylan was there she didn't say something like "God I'm wet, I wish Dylan was here right now with his big hard cock to give me a good fucking". Instead she beat around the bush and after a rather long buildup with hinting about your gym routine she very shyly said "I wish you know who was here" while trying to hide herself with the sheets. She couldn't even say Dylan's name.
She knows you want her to see Dylan. My take is she's kind of telling you she's with him in her own extra shy way. She's being VERY obvious about seeing him from what it sounds like. If she was trying to hide it she'd skip out from work early and clean up properly before coming home. Make Dylan wear a condom etc etc etc. Instead she's taking 5 hours for a hair appointment and coming home soaked in cum. Not the behaviour of someone trying to hide infidelity.
This part is pure speculation so take it for what it is, speculation. Unfortunately I still think it's likely that she fucked Dylan on that first 5 hour date, and again all through the Xmas period. I think she just did a better job of hiding it. Why tell you about the Tuesday night and not all the other times? Because that Tuesday night she allowed Dylan to take her bareback for the first time. She came home full of his cum (and again on last Friday night by the sounds of it). I think she's so used to fucking him in secret without you knowing that she doesn't know how to do it while telling you. I think her old habits continue. I think the only difference now after the Tuesday is that she gets to fuck Dylan bareback now that it's partially out in the open. It's also possible she fucked Dylan or someone else a year ago when you smelled and tasted latex while eating her out. Again this part is all speculation, and even then I don't blame her as she's picked up on your desires to have her cheat that you wrote about in your very first post in the thread:
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She has said before that it would be easy for her to cheat and she knows I would love it. I find the thought extremely hot, I wouldn't care if she cheated and didn't tell me about it, as in I snoop through her e-mail or phone and find messages with a guy, I would probably keep the knowledge to myself and either wait for her to tell me, or simply me knowing would be hot enough and maybe even hotter knowing she was keeping it from me. "
Back to reality and the facts at hand, you probably need to explain to her that you need to be included more so this is something you're doing together. Even if you're not there with her while she's with Dylan, you'll feel included if you can talk about it afterwards. Somehow you can convey that it's not good for your relationship if you're not included more. At the moment she's driving this but you're not even on the bus. You don't want her to drive the bus away from you.
When you have the conversation, remember it's not a confrontation but you're just letting her know what you need so as not to harm your relationship. She indicated that she doesn't want it harmed either so hopefully she'll listen.
That's just my take on it all anyway. I'm not an expert at all, but that's just the feeling I get from what you've written. I'm glad you're doing OK though and were able to update your thread. We're all wishing the best for the both of you.
If it eases your mind at all, my take on what you've written is that she's REALLY shy about it all. She obviously LOVES it, but for whatever reason can't talk with you about it. Even the other night last week when she was wishing Dylan was there she didn't say something like "God I'm wet, I wish Dylan was here right now with his big hard cock to give me a good fucking". Instead she beat around the bush and after a rather long buildup with hinting about your gym routine she very shyly said "I wish you know who was here" while trying to hide herself with the sheets. She couldn't even say Dylan's name.
She knows you want her to see Dylan. My take is she's kind of telling you she's with him in her own extra shy way. She's being VERY obvious about seeing him from what it sounds like. If she was trying to hide it she'd skip out from work early and clean up properly before coming home. Make Dylan wear a condom etc etc etc. Instead she's taking 5 hours for a hair appointment and coming home soaked in cum. Not the behaviour of someone trying to hide infidelity.
This part is pure speculation so take it for what it is, speculation. Unfortunately I still think it's likely that she fucked Dylan on that first 5 hour date, and again all through the Xmas period. I think she just did a better job of hiding it. Why tell you about the Tuesday night and not all the other times? Because that Tuesday night she allowed Dylan to take her bareback for the first time. She came home full of his cum (and again on last Friday night by the sounds of it). I think she's so used to fucking him in secret without you knowing that she doesn't know how to do it while telling you. I think her old habits continue. I think the only difference now after the Tuesday is that she gets to fuck Dylan bareback now that it's partially out in the open. It's also possible she fucked Dylan or someone else a year ago when you smelled and tasted latex while eating her out. Again this part is all speculation, and even then I don't blame her as she's picked up on your desires to have her cheat that you wrote about in your very first post in the thread:
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She has said before that it would be easy for her to cheat and she knows I would love it. I find the thought extremely hot, I wouldn't care if she cheated and didn't tell me about it, as in I snoop through her e-mail or phone and find messages with a guy, I would probably keep the knowledge to myself and either wait for her to tell me, or simply me knowing would be hot enough and maybe even hotter knowing she was keeping it from me. "
Back to reality and the facts at hand, you probably need to explain to her that you need to be included more so this is something you're doing together. Even if you're not there with her while she's with Dylan, you'll feel included if you can talk about it afterwards. Somehow you can convey that it's not good for your relationship if you're not included more. At the moment she's driving this but you're not even on the bus. You don't want her to drive the bus away from you.
When you have the conversation, remember it's not a confrontation but you're just letting her know what you need so as not to harm your relationship. She indicated that she doesn't want it harmed either so hopefully she'll listen.
That's just my take on it all anyway. I'm not an expert at all, but that's just the feeling I get from what you've written. I'm glad you're doing OK though and were able to update your thread. We're all wishing the best for the both of you.
My current situation: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=65904
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This. And I think it was something similar that led him to edit that post, which apparently had some relevant details, because of his shyness or concern about the feedback he was getting.
Good luck Breaker!
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newaussiecuck
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Hi Breaker, I almost let this one slip by in all of the other news from today. However, to focus on the part you find exciting for a while.
The upcoming dance night out that you suspect Dylan will be attending (she hinted at it but doesn't seem to have come out and directly said he will be there). I'm assuming the girlfriend she's going with is her girlfriend that knows Dylan? The one who Mrs Breaker had lunch with shortly before the Tuesday meet up with Dylan? The one who is married and is even more slutty than Jennifer? It sounds very much like her friend knows that Dylan is fucking her, and it's quite possible that her friend may have even encouraged it.
If I remember correctly her friend has slept with quite a few men other than her husband? Do you think it's possible her friend may have even slept with Dylan at some point before? Maybe she told Mrs Breaker how good he was and encouraged her to go for it.
This upcoming evening could go in a very interesting direction. Wouldn't it be exciting if they ended the night in a 3-some? If in fact her friend has already fucked Dylan, then it's not totally out of the realms of possibility.
The upcoming dance night out that you suspect Dylan will be attending (she hinted at it but doesn't seem to have come out and directly said he will be there). I'm assuming the girlfriend she's going with is her girlfriend that knows Dylan? The one who Mrs Breaker had lunch with shortly before the Tuesday meet up with Dylan? The one who is married and is even more slutty than Jennifer? It sounds very much like her friend knows that Dylan is fucking her, and it's quite possible that her friend may have even encouraged it.
If I remember correctly her friend has slept with quite a few men other than her husband? Do you think it's possible her friend may have even slept with Dylan at some point before? Maybe she told Mrs Breaker how good he was and encouraged her to go for it.
This upcoming evening could go in a very interesting direction. Wouldn't it be exciting if they ended the night in a 3-some? If in fact her friend has already fucked Dylan, then it's not totally out of the realms of possibility.
My current situation: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=65904
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I also have to admit I'm a little confused. Excuse me if I getting on someone's nerve, but maybe someone could help me. So, there was the "official" date with Dylan on 29th January. But since then it seems or it's suspected that Mrs. Breaker did see Dylan twice more, behind Breaker's back so to say. On a 5h hair appointment and on a 8h visit to the gym (last Friday?). Or am I completely wrong. I would be immensely grateful if you Mr. Breaker or someone else could bring me up to date. Excuse for the inconvenience.
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Ok, Max. She went to the gym last week Tuesday, I think and was gone a long time. Then on Friday, she went to get her hair done and was gone 5 hours. She came back and her hair was a mess. So she got it from Dylan twice last week. He posted a bunch of detail this morning and then later deleted a lot of it. (I didn’t think that was possible on here to physically do that but apparently it is.)
So what a lot of the guys are referring to in some of the specifics isn’t there anymore. He said he “edited” his earlier post.
I hope this helps clear it up a little.
So what a lot of the guys are referring to in some of the specifics isn’t there anymore. He said he “edited” his earlier post.
I hope this helps clear it up a little.
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Agreed a few questions need answering.
With regards to the upcoming dancing night with the girls, it's been inferred that Dylan or whoever's she is seeing will be there. This would worry me the most Breaker, she is happy to have him in attendance with her friends leading to my thoughts that they have been an item for way longer than you think or what she has told you.
With regards to the upcoming dancing night with the girls, it's been inferred that Dylan or whoever's she is seeing will be there. This would worry me the most Breaker, she is happy to have him in attendance with her friends leading to my thoughts that they have been an item for way longer than you think or what she has told you.
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I also didn't think you could edit a post after it has been replied to, Ive tried and can't. Why did he need to edit it out anyway.
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So obviously the communication needs to be much better and I hope you guys talked things through last night
With that said—everything about this (yes even the sneaking around) is so hot to me as someone who has come close to this in a previous relationship.
Grand scheme of things here? Your piece of ass, smoking hot wife is actively fucking a bigger, stronger, more virile physical specimen of an alpha male....and she LOVES IT.
YOU ARE LIVING THE DREAM.
Praying you guys are able to work this out!
With that said—everything about this (yes even the sneaking around) is so hot to me as someone who has come close to this in a previous relationship.
Grand scheme of things here? Your piece of ass, smoking hot wife is actively fucking a bigger, stronger, more virile physical specimen of an alpha male....and she LOVES IT.
YOU ARE LIVING THE DREAM.
Praying you guys are able to work this out!
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She seemed to open up much more when you communicated by texting. If you are finding it difficult to communicate directly with her again, why don't you get things going by texting again.
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One's head could easily spin multiple rpms with all the in bounds. Might be advisable to slow down the concerns and all the different inputs allowing Breaker to get his foundation back so to speak.......
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Well we had our conversation last night and I would say it went really well, we got a lot of things out in the open. It was actually rather easy to roll right into the conversation as she got home and immediately started trying on an outfit for her night out where the plan is to go dancing with a girlfriend. As she checked herself out in her outfit of leather pants and heels she knew I was loving the outfit she had chose and teased me a bit reminding me again that the night when she would wear this outfit was about her and not about me. More on the clarification of that later...
After she gave me a little tease of this upcoming date night I saw it as an opening to bring up things that had happened. The long gym trip and her response to it, and the hair appointment. I just decided to jump in and figured what the heck why not? I told her I couldn't believe how hot she looked and suddenly how jealous I felt checking her out and knowing the night wasn't about me. I could tell she enjoyed hearing that and she gave me this sexy pose and raised her eyebrows. With my heart racing I just blurted it out, because right then and there it was obvious what she was teasing me about and I figured lets have the conversation. So I flat out brought up in a gentle way and asked why she didn't tell me more about the gym night or Friday night with her hair appointment. She gave me this short laugh like what? and a confused look. I told her, I told her the long time at the gym and when I hinted she was at the gym a long time, fully knowing what I was referring to, she never said and just replied with the several haha's and letting me know she was no running errands. "Well..." she paused before continuing and telling me she thought I got the hint back. I told her I assumed the answer but that sort of response would not cut it and that I need direct responses or a direct heads up of what is going on. Then I went straight into Friday night and letting her know how obvious it was that something was up.
She agreed that the response about the gym was not the greatest and she should have been more direct, and for Friday she put it out point blank. She talked to me about not wanting this to dominate our relationship, she went back to feeling guilty and feeling bad after their date on Tuesday and told me she felt bad because she had such a good time and she had fun doing it, but she also felt bad because even though she knew I wanted it and wanted to know details and was happy she did it and enjoyed it, she still felt bad about telling me how great it was. She basically simply said she didn't want to hurt my feelings, even though she knew what I wanted, because it was now real and wasn't some teasing humiliation talk in fantasy land. This lead to Friday night with the hair appointment. She said they hooked up and she was going to tell me when the time was right. She said looking back, and now that I brought it up, it was not the right way, but she gave a reason as to why she went about it that way and I understood it afterward. She went back to saying she didn't want this to dominate our relationship, but she is surprised herself with how enjoyable and fun it is, but she doesn't want each time to be a big deal like it was on that Tuesday night. Which brought her to her upcoming dance night where she said that was why she reminds me the night is about her and not me, because she doesn't want to have to have this huge build up and having these high expectations while she is out or when she returns. Or me asking and pestering for details of everything. It made sense to me, I tend to get carried away and will have the build up or knowing of it take over the entire day or days leading up to it that I probably do make it a consuming deal. So Friday was a way to do it without having that build up and without having the pressure of how to act when she got back. I did bring up when she was going to tell me since this was Friday and it was now Tuesday, and she acted like, "I know!" and let me know she was in the wrong and apologized. I replied that it was fine and I was just happy we were talking about it now.
So it seemed we were at a crossroads, she was enjoying her time, she was really enjoying this whole thing now, but still found it hard to tell me. But obviously I needed to be given a heads up. So me being a sub, I wanted to let her decide. I told her, as she already knew, I was fine and wanted her to do what she wanted to do, but I did say I needed to know, someway somehow I needed to know what was going on. I told her I didn't need detail after detail and told her if she just told me what she was doing, no matter how small, that would be hot for me, but I just need to know. I let her know I wouldn't make it a big deal each time. I added that it also helps with communication and keeping that going which is important. She agreed too that communicating was important and was lacking. So after explaining what I needed out of it I waited for her response. She gave a short laugh and said she did want to keep doing it, but paused afterward waiting to see my response. I asked, "Really?" and she said yes and added a little more to why. Basically going back to the role playing and the build ups, for her she sees it as satisfying sex, she doesn't want it to consume us that it takes over our relationship and it becomes our relationship. I told her if I am not kept in the loop it's hard to not think about it, and if I was made aware I wouldn't make it a big deal. She agreed and that made sense to her and again said she'd let me know. But I understood what she was wanting and it made sense to me too.
There was more to our talk but that was basically the meat and potatoes of it. Afterward it was like flood gates of positive emotions opened up and I felt extremely connected to her and by her reception she did too. Things got cleared up and it was absolutely a conversation that needed to be had.
After she gave me a little tease of this upcoming date night I saw it as an opening to bring up things that had happened. The long gym trip and her response to it, and the hair appointment. I just decided to jump in and figured what the heck why not? I told her I couldn't believe how hot she looked and suddenly how jealous I felt checking her out and knowing the night wasn't about me. I could tell she enjoyed hearing that and she gave me this sexy pose and raised her eyebrows. With my heart racing I just blurted it out, because right then and there it was obvious what she was teasing me about and I figured lets have the conversation. So I flat out brought up in a gentle way and asked why she didn't tell me more about the gym night or Friday night with her hair appointment. She gave me this short laugh like what? and a confused look. I told her, I told her the long time at the gym and when I hinted she was at the gym a long time, fully knowing what I was referring to, she never said and just replied with the several haha's and letting me know she was no running errands. "Well..." she paused before continuing and telling me she thought I got the hint back. I told her I assumed the answer but that sort of response would not cut it and that I need direct responses or a direct heads up of what is going on. Then I went straight into Friday night and letting her know how obvious it was that something was up.
She agreed that the response about the gym was not the greatest and she should have been more direct, and for Friday she put it out point blank. She talked to me about not wanting this to dominate our relationship, she went back to feeling guilty and feeling bad after their date on Tuesday and told me she felt bad because she had such a good time and she had fun doing it, but she also felt bad because even though she knew I wanted it and wanted to know details and was happy she did it and enjoyed it, she still felt bad about telling me how great it was. She basically simply said she didn't want to hurt my feelings, even though she knew what I wanted, because it was now real and wasn't some teasing humiliation talk in fantasy land. This lead to Friday night with the hair appointment. She said they hooked up and she was going to tell me when the time was right. She said looking back, and now that I brought it up, it was not the right way, but she gave a reason as to why she went about it that way and I understood it afterward. She went back to saying she didn't want this to dominate our relationship, but she is surprised herself with how enjoyable and fun it is, but she doesn't want each time to be a big deal like it was on that Tuesday night. Which brought her to her upcoming dance night where she said that was why she reminds me the night is about her and not me, because she doesn't want to have to have this huge build up and having these high expectations while she is out or when she returns. Or me asking and pestering for details of everything. It made sense to me, I tend to get carried away and will have the build up or knowing of it take over the entire day or days leading up to it that I probably do make it a consuming deal. So Friday was a way to do it without having that build up and without having the pressure of how to act when she got back. I did bring up when she was going to tell me since this was Friday and it was now Tuesday, and she acted like, "I know!" and let me know she was in the wrong and apologized. I replied that it was fine and I was just happy we were talking about it now.
So it seemed we were at a crossroads, she was enjoying her time, she was really enjoying this whole thing now, but still found it hard to tell me. But obviously I needed to be given a heads up. So me being a sub, I wanted to let her decide. I told her, as she already knew, I was fine and wanted her to do what she wanted to do, but I did say I needed to know, someway somehow I needed to know what was going on. I told her I didn't need detail after detail and told her if she just told me what she was doing, no matter how small, that would be hot for me, but I just need to know. I let her know I wouldn't make it a big deal each time. I added that it also helps with communication and keeping that going which is important. She agreed too that communicating was important and was lacking. So after explaining what I needed out of it I waited for her response. She gave a short laugh and said she did want to keep doing it, but paused afterward waiting to see my response. I asked, "Really?" and she said yes and added a little more to why. Basically going back to the role playing and the build ups, for her she sees it as satisfying sex, she doesn't want it to consume us that it takes over our relationship and it becomes our relationship. I told her if I am not kept in the loop it's hard to not think about it, and if I was made aware I wouldn't make it a big deal. She agreed and that made sense to her and again said she'd let me know. But I understood what she was wanting and it made sense to me too.
There was more to our talk but that was basically the meat and potatoes of it. Afterward it was like flood gates of positive emotions opened up and I felt extremely connected to her and by her reception she did too. Things got cleared up and it was absolutely a conversation that needed to be had.
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Re: progress story
Super stoked to hear it went well Breaker! Your updates give me more courage and hope for my own situation every day. Way to go!
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Great information Breaker. Just would be interested in her response if you casually asked her what her estimation would be of her hooking up percentage wise, regarding sexual or emotional with Dylan. An aggressive approach, but it would potentially plant the seed that for your understanding of how she sees her relationship with him. She is capable enough to reflect on her assessment of her “play time.” She owes you that.
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Re: progress story
You were brave to have this conversation! I'm sure you felt like you had to or you would go crazy! Stay brave and keep communicating. Don't let too much time pass between conversations. You usually have intensified feelings when you've had too much time to think about them without some way of allaying your fears.Breaker445 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:35 amWell we had our conversation last night and I would say it went really well, we got a lot of things out in the open. It was actually rather easy to roll right into the conversation as she got home and immediately started trying on an outfit for her night out where the plan is to go dancing with a girlfriend. As she checked herself out in her outfit of leather pants and heels she knew I was loving the outfit she had chose and teased me a bit reminding me again that the night when she would wear this outfit was about her and not about me. More on the clarification of that later...
After she gave me a little tease of this upcoming date night I saw it as an opening to bring up things that had happened. The long gym trip and her response to it, and the hair appointment. I just decided to jump in and figured what the heck why not? I told her I couldn't believe how hot she looked and suddenly how jealous I felt checking her out and knowing the night wasn't about me. I could tell she enjoyed hearing that and she gave me this sexy pose and raised her eyebrows. With my heart racing I just blurted it out, because right then and there it was obvious what she was teasing me about and I figured lets have the conversation. So I flat out brought up in a gentle way and asked why she didn't tell me more about the gym night or Friday night with her hair appointment. She gave me this short laugh like what? and a confused look. I told her, I told her the long time at the gym and when I hinted she was at the gym a long time, fully knowing what I was referring to, she never said and just replied with the several haha's and letting me know she was no running errands. "Well..." she paused before continuing and telling me she thought I got the hint back. I told her I assumed the answer but that sort of response would not cut it and that I need direct responses or a direct heads up of what is going on. Then I went straight into Friday night and letting her know how obvious it was that something was up.
She agreed that the response about the gym was not the greatest and she should have been more direct, and for Friday she put it out point blank. She talked to me about not wanting this to dominate our relationship, she went back to feeling guilty and feeling bad after their date on Tuesday and told me she felt bad because she had such a good time and she had fun doing it, but she also felt bad because even though she knew I wanted it and wanted to know details and was happy she did it and enjoyed it, she still felt bad about telling me how great it was. She basically simply said she didn't want to hurt my feelings, even though she knew what I wanted, because it was now real and wasn't some teasing humiliation talk in fantasy land. This lead to Friday night with the hair appointment. She said they hooked up and she was going to tell me when the time was right. She said looking back, and now that I brought it up, it was not the right way, but she gave a reason as to why she went about it that way and I understood it afterward. She went back to saying she didn't want this to dominate our relationship, but she is surprised herself with how enjoyable and fun it is, but she doesn't want each time to be a big deal like it was on that Tuesday night. Which brought her to her upcoming dance night where she said that was why she reminds me the night is about her and not me, because she doesn't want to have to have this huge build up and having these high expectations while she is out or when she returns. Or me asking and pestering for details of everything. It made sense to me, I tend to get carried away and will have the build up or knowing of it take over the entire day or days leading up to it that I probably do make it a consuming deal. So Friday was a way to do it without having that build up and without having the pressure of how to act when she got back. I did bring up when she was going to tell me since this was Friday and it was now Tuesday, and she acted like, "I know!" and let me know she was in the wrong and apologized. I replied that it was fine and I was just happy we were talking about it now.
So it seemed we were at a crossroads, she was enjoying her time, she was really enjoying this whole thing now, but still found it hard to tell me. But obviously I needed to be given a heads up. So me being a sub, I wanted to let her decide. I told her, as she already knew, I was fine and wanted her to do what she wanted to do, but I did say I needed to know, someway somehow I needed to know what was going on. I told her I didn't need detail after detail and told her if she just told me what she was doing, no matter how small, that would be hot for me, but I just need to know. I let her know I wouldn't make it a big deal each time. I added that it also helps with communication and keeping that going which is important. She agreed too that communicating was important and was lacking. So after explaining what I needed out of it I waited for her response. She gave a short laugh and said she did want to keep doing it, but paused afterward waiting to see my response. I asked, "Really?" and she said yes and added a little more to why. Basically going back to the role playing and the build ups, for her she sees it as satisfying sex, she doesn't want it to consume us that it takes over our relationship and it becomes our relationship. I told her if I am not kept in the loop it's hard to not think about it, and if I was made aware I wouldn't make it a big deal. She agreed and that made sense to her and again said she'd let me know. But I understood what she was wanting and it made sense to me too.
There was more to our talk but that was basically the meat and potatoes of it. Afterward it was like flood gates of positive emotions opened up and I felt extremely connected to her and by her reception she did too. Things got cleared up and it was absolutely a conversation that needed to be had.
When one person is given the responsibility to care for the needs of two, the burden of freedom should be assumed by the empowered partner. This why I believe it takes an exceptional woman to juggle her personal pursuits and while still nurturing her shared responsibilities to her relationship that fosters this lifestyle. You care about what she thinks and feels don't you? Probably more now than ever I would guess. It just seems odd to me that so often I read here (probably posts from men mostly) how men will actively work to make this happen and when the wives get their opportunity they are typically depicted as uncaring or ambivalent towards the feelings of their spouse. NRE is no excuse for ignoring a partner!
Hope is not a strategy but it's still good to have! Especially if you don't have a strategy!
I get my denial the old fashion way, I married vanilla!
I get my denial the old fashion way, I married vanilla!
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hornedhubby
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Re: progress story
Seems to me that you always tend to give in to her perspective. She wants to compartmentalize her HW hobby as something only for her. You, like most men who desire an FLR and cuck relationship, probably want to feel like you are deeply involved in her play from anticipation, to helping her get ready for dates, to the welcome home worship of her used pussy. Or getting to watch. If indeed what I've described is what you want from this, then either you are not expressing your needs well, or she is not hearing what you want and need, or both.
The positive is that she is enjoying it. But she isn't sharing or giving you much. Are you willing to accept the current compromise? My concern is that it's going to be troubling for you to deal with it unless she involves you in the game much, much more.
The positive is that she is enjoying it. But she isn't sharing or giving you much. Are you willing to accept the current compromise? My concern is that it's going to be troubling for you to deal with it unless she involves you in the game much, much more.
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FNQLivin
Re: progress story
She still hasn’t told you much. She now seems to have reluctantly agreed that she will at least tell you when she’s seeing him. And you have happily accepted that. To me, she’s still not giving you anything really in return. And the lack of information about him, what he’s like,what he does, what they do is a big big worry. She’s basically free to form this emotional attachment to this man and you’re totally in the dark. She’s having an affair and the only difference between this and conventional infidelity is that you know she’s doing it.
I’m happy for you if that’s what you really want, but it seems that each time it’s always you doing the most of the compromise.
I’m happy for you if that’s what you really want, but it seems that each time it’s always you doing the most of the compromise.
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FNQLivin
Re: progress story
Put it another way. You’re wife is seeing another man secretly for sex and nights out. You don’t know where she is or how long she’ll be away. She looks to be having bareback sex with him but you don’t know for sure. When you ask for the slightest detail she is reluctant to tell you. And her excuse is that she doesn’t want it to dominate your relationship and that she’s shy talking about this stuff. But she’s having sex with another man!
For someone I don’t know, you’re stirring emotions in me. I am genuinely concerned that she will form an emotional attachment to this man and you’ll be left picking the pieces up.
When was the last time you were intimate with your wife? Have you had sex since? Do you still need to wear a condom?
Sorry for so many questions, I don’t want to be seen to be berating you, I am genuinely worried.
For someone I don’t know, you’re stirring emotions in me. I am genuinely concerned that she will form an emotional attachment to this man and you’ll be left picking the pieces up.
When was the last time you were intimate with your wife? Have you had sex since? Do you still need to wear a condom?
Sorry for so many questions, I don’t want to be seen to be berating you, I am genuinely worried.
Re: progress story
^^^^^^^
Excellent post FNQ
This forum should have a 'like post' tab
Excellent post FNQ
This forum should have a 'like post' tab
Re: progress story
FNQ. She very likely had bareback sex at the hotel and this past Friday as well. He confirmed Friday but then amended the post from yesterday morning leaving that part out.
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JeffBingham
Re: progress story
Hi Breaker, If you're totally cool with how the conversation went last night and have no lingering concerns, please disregard this entire post. If you're happy and like where this is going, that's all that matters in the end.
Please believe me when I say I'm not trying to criticize you. But damn, you're a pushover. This is probably the single most predictable situation that occurs in these pages. A husband and wife get started down this path, and even though the husband is not getting what was agreed upon, he's so scared of blowing things up or hurting his wife's feelings, he just submits to the situation and doesn't speak up. He subsists on the hope that things will improve the "next time". By the way, not speaking up about your true feelings is lying by omission, just like her not telling you about her trysts with D.
Her actions are what matter, not the few words she actually provides. (And even those words are only grudgingly shared when confronted) Her words say she doesn't want to hurt your feelings, but going back for rounds 2 and 3 behind your back suggests she's hiding something that she believes will hurt you, or she wouldn't have hidden it in the first place. As if lying to your spouse doesn't hurt their feelings.
She says she doesn't want it to dominate your relationship. How can something dominate your relationship if you, the husband, has no involvement other than imagination and guesswork? I'd say that based on the 2 clandestine meetings that it's already dominating her mind and emotions.
She told you before she would keep you in the loop and agreed to tell you if and when things happened but she still didn't admit to anything until you cornered her. Would she ever have come clean on her own? who knows.
She says she understands and cares about your feelings, but she has done this entirely on her own terms and has violated agreements she made about communication. So it's uncomfortable talking with you about how much Dylan rocked her world. Boo hoo. It's time for her to grow up and communicate like a married adult with a husband who would give his everything for her.
I've loved following your journey and I'm grateful you have shared it with us. I just don't think it sounds like you two are anywhere near being totally honest with each other. And while that may not necessarily spell trouble, it sure ain't going to improve your odds.
Please believe me when I say I'm not trying to criticize you. But damn, you're a pushover. This is probably the single most predictable situation that occurs in these pages. A husband and wife get started down this path, and even though the husband is not getting what was agreed upon, he's so scared of blowing things up or hurting his wife's feelings, he just submits to the situation and doesn't speak up. He subsists on the hope that things will improve the "next time". By the way, not speaking up about your true feelings is lying by omission, just like her not telling you about her trysts with D.
Her actions are what matter, not the few words she actually provides. (And even those words are only grudgingly shared when confronted) Her words say she doesn't want to hurt your feelings, but going back for rounds 2 and 3 behind your back suggests she's hiding something that she believes will hurt you, or she wouldn't have hidden it in the first place. As if lying to your spouse doesn't hurt their feelings.
She says she doesn't want it to dominate your relationship. How can something dominate your relationship if you, the husband, has no involvement other than imagination and guesswork? I'd say that based on the 2 clandestine meetings that it's already dominating her mind and emotions.
She told you before she would keep you in the loop and agreed to tell you if and when things happened but she still didn't admit to anything until you cornered her. Would she ever have come clean on her own? who knows.
She says she understands and cares about your feelings, but she has done this entirely on her own terms and has violated agreements she made about communication. So it's uncomfortable talking with you about how much Dylan rocked her world. Boo hoo. It's time for her to grow up and communicate like a married adult with a husband who would give his everything for her.
I've loved following your journey and I'm grateful you have shared it with us. I just don't think it sounds like you two are anywhere near being totally honest with each other. And while that may not necessarily spell trouble, it sure ain't going to improve your odds.
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Breaker445
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Re: progress story
Sorry this may not be an ideal situation for some, but it works for me and it works for her. Maybe I failed in portraying our conversation, but she wasn't reluctant in her agreement to tell me about future meet ups. But I don't think in this lifestyle is everyone's situation the same. For me, it is very exciting to think about what is going on. Has that changed from my initial fantasy years ago? Yes, but it works for me and it is something that works for her. Have I compromised? Sure, and why not? I think if we continue to communicate, which certainly feels will be the case after last night, and again maybe my writing failed, because last nights conversation brought us together really close and I think we both saw what good communication can do, that as we move forward that communication will continue and open more things up.