Thoughts On the Cuckold-Bull Relationship

[dreamer72]

Ive read about bull drop, when the bull feels empty after sex. Do you know about it?

That is probably a good description of what I experienced after awhile. It was empty and unfulfilling, took to much energy output for what I got back and just left me feeling drained after a while. It makes for nice fantasies but the reality is never as good.

[bradisalpha]

I would probably say that I am USING the couple for sex.. and the couple are USING me for sex, which makes for a mutual very exciting relationship.

Exactly.

There are a number of people on this forum who preach that "It's all about the girlfriends/wifes enjoyment and pleasure".

Wrong, wrong, wrong. You are trying to tell me that, out of the three people involved in a cuck relationship, only the wife's pleasure is of importance? Only one persons pleasure, out of three, is paramount? That is a relationship that is never going to last.
What Brad has described is more like a working, ongoing basis for the relationship. EVERYONE is getting the maximum possible out of it.
However, Brad, though you aren't advocating being 'best mates', with the husband, I think you are missing a trick. What 'athlete915' is describing, is actually a system where, as well as being socially friendly with the husband (as well as the wife), he is finding out more about what makes the husband 'tick'. And by finding out more, he's better able to 'press his buttons'. And if he can press his buttons, the husband gets more of a thrill. And the wife sees the husband getting the maximum thrill from her infidelity, which reassures her about the situation. She is more relaxed, she is more comfortable with her bull/boyfriend.

And, if the bull gets a thrill from fucking another mans wife, surely that thrill can be enhanced by playing up to the husbands fantasies and desires. By being friendly, people are more likely to open up and be candid about what they want, what they would like to happen. What 'athlete915' describes, strikes me as someone who has pride in their work.....a professional, almost.

Of course, regardless of the type of relationship, what's wrong with being friendly about it? There's enough hate in the world already. Be nice to people. It normally works out better for everyone.

There are tons of great points here, as expected.

I agree that there are definitely people who take the "It's all about the girlfriends/wifes enjoyment and pleasure" mindset to the extreme. I will say that her pleasure should be the primary focus, but that is simply because if she isn't enjoying herself, the cuck and bull won't be able to either (or at least shouldn't). But just because her pleasure is the primary focus doesn't mean it should be the only focus. The cuckold's pleasure matters, too. If he is unhappy, he will stop supporting his wife and bull. Finally, if the bull isn't satisfied, he can take his talents elsewhere. None of that is good.

On the other hand, if the wife, cuck, and bull are all happy and satisfied, that's awesome. That's the virtuous cycle where everyone's pleasure and happiness feed off and support one another. No one feels like a third wheel or undervalued.

And you're spot on that the relationship between the husbands and me is about altruism. Like you said, the better I get to know the husband, the better I can tailor my approach to him. The better I tailor my approach, the happier he will be. The happier he is, the more supportive he is. The more supportive he is, the more I will have her.

Additionally, the husband knows his wife far better than I do. If we have a good relationship, he will give me insights into her that it would be a challenge to gather independently. That similarly lets me tailor my approach to her, improving my ability to please her.

In the end, taking a couple of hours to grab some beers and watch a with the husband can pay huge dividends. Sure, we don't need to become BFFs, but we can and certainly should be friendly.

Finally, sometimes people think just because there is sex and/or dominance involve that all manners can be cast aside. I very much disagree. You can be a bull and not an asshole (excuse my language). You can be dominant and not a jerk.

I might be slightly misunderstood… I enjoy having a beer with a cuckold and am friendly.. I certainly am not an asshole or a jerk.. that is not my DNA !! I just do not need or want to be socially connected with him in other interests… only sexual connections. That is what I am there for.

I also prefer to find a wife’s “hot spots” and desires myself.. not from a husbands point of view. I find they are normally a lot different than she exposes or shares with her cuckold when she is with her BF. My greatest satisfaction is to hear from a cuckold “I can’t believe she did that” or “wants that”. “You have opened up desires I didn’t know she had” !!! A wife has a tendency to open up a lot different when not being in the wife/mother/family/work mode. She has no standards to uphold and can totally let herself go.. to the point of sometimes being unrecognizable to her cuckold. This is the excitement that draws me in as a BF.

Just sayin…

Brad

[trecital]

I might be slightly misunderstood…

Possibly, possibly not.

I think that there is a difference between what you've said and what athlete915 has said. But I think that it's just a difference of degree.
I don't think all cucks are interested in a social connection (like sharing a hobby interest, or going to a game) with their bull. That can sometimes feel awkward, I'm sure.

The most important points are that you are also saying that you are friendly and sociable. The word 'sociable' covers a wide range/depth of interaction.

Though I said that "You might be missing a trick", it's clear from what you replied that you have your own method of finding out what makes the wife and the cuck 'tick'.

Some 'bulls' are just not interested in more than getting to fuck a married woman. To them it's "job done, I'm out of here". And it has to be said, there are cucks that prefer that. There are cucks that prefer their wife's bull to be "an asshole or a jerk". That could actually turn them on more, and press more of their cucky buttons.

As they say, "It takes allsorts".

I think the thread is useful to remind us that there are bulls that take their 'job' seriously. And that there can be benefits from that.

And that there are bulls that are not jerks or arseholes.

[bradisalpha]

I might be slightly misunderstood…

Possibly, possibly not.

I think that there is a difference between what you've said and what athlete915 has said. But I think that it's just a difference of degree.
I don't think all cucks are interested in a social connection (like sharing a hobby interest, or going to a game) with their bull. That can sometimes feel awkward, I'm sure.

The most important points are that you are also saying that you are friendly and sociable. The word 'sociable' covers a wide range/depth of interaction.

Though I said that "You might be missing a trick", it's clear from what you replied that you have your own method of finding out what makes the wife and the cuck 'tick'.

Some 'bulls' are just not interested in more than getting to fuck a married woman. To them it's "job done, I'm out of here". And it has to be said, there are cucks that prefer that. There are cucks that prefer their wife's bull to be "an asshole or a jerk". That could actually turn them on more, and press more of their cucky buttons.

As they say, "It takes allsorts".

I think the thread is useful to remind us that there are bulls that take their 'job' seriously. And that there can be benefits from that.

And that there are bulls that arenot jerks or arseholes.

trecital,


Very well said… thank you.

Brad

[Scias]

I don't consider my wife's Bf a bull. He's her boy friend. We get along really good. He fucks my wife whenever he wants or whenever she wants. He includes me in activities sometimes. Sometimes we play golf together but I also understand he is my superior. My wife does allow him to spank me if I'm naughty and he will make me suck his cock if my wife isn't feeling well and he needs a release. I really like him a lot and hope they remain together for a long time.

Wow, that is so hot... Would it be cool if you went more into that or if I could PM you to talk about it? I'd love hear your thoughts and learn more about your dynamic with your wife and her bf

[little sissy Benita]

You are right, every cuckold relationship is different - Fortunately.

Each of us grew up differently - even marriage without cuckolding was different for most of us

I must say - i don´t like the words "Bull" or "Slut" - it shows no respect.
Maybe is the word "Lover" or "Housefriend" better, but i don´t know it, also the wife should seen as a Queen.

Since my former wife is living with him as married couple - they are husband and wife.
And after my feminizing into a little girl (little daughter) and my regression into babyhood started - i must call them with mommy and daddy.
That was not easy at begin, but later it become normal.

For me it is to show the new husband of my former wife (mommy) respect - and her of course too, when i call her mommy.

It may sound strange to some, but since I became "her" child, I think things have become easier.
I have strict bedtimes, for example - and mostly she made me ready for bed at 7:00 pm (sometimes later) and so both have time for themselves.

As my mommy she don't need permission from her little baby daughter to get pregnant by her new husband.

It's much easier when they all accept new roles in the family

little Benita

[AZPainter]

In my past cuck/Bull/wife life, now both wife and lifestyle gone due to it was happening during the late 1960's and early to mid 1970's and long before the terms we use today were even thought of. I have mentioned what was happening in other threads here, so I won't retell it here. I also am nota fan of the term Bull. I called them my wife's lovers or boyfriends. Now days I prefer the term " Alpha " or "Alpha Male" or boyfriend to "Bull."

My wife was fucking a lot of guys before we married. Mostly co-workers and band members at the club where she worked as a cocktail waitress and scheduling manager of other waitress's. This continued after we married and we made an agreement once I found out what she was doing. After our agreement was made, she usually brought her boyfriend of the night home with her and rarely went to their place anymore. Most spent the night with her in our other bedroom as I would be sleeping in ours since she didn't leave work until 1:30 or 2 am.

I knew most of them as I did posters for many of the clubs in the city where we lived, but now and then there would be one or two I did not know. Maybe from another one of the clubs or a regular customer of the club where she worked.. Over time I got to watch a few of her friends with her and of them, some I got to clean her up after they finished and there were a few that liked me to clean them up also. I became friends with a lot of her co-workers and when I went to the clubs delivering or taking an order for a new poster, all in her club knew I was her cuck. They respected me for the most part, but there were a couple who just wanted sex with D (my wife).

Of the ones that liked having me orally clean them up at times would come by and if D was asleep still or unavailable for whatever reason sometimes I would give them head and taking care, somewhat of the need their need/ desire of the moment. So I guess I had a bit of both friends/ respected lovers/ more Dominant/ and last the ones just there for sex with D. The club owner, who was one of her owners even became a collector of my paintings I did for galleries, as well as a feeder to me as well as one of D's lovers. It worked just fine for quite a few years.