It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[shawnm]

What if she fucked Evan? Without dickhead being present. She could tell him how he fucks her so much better than Adam ever has. She loves how his cock feels her up. That's the reason she took him on the couch that night while Adam was asleep. She just needed his cock more than anyone. So she would be cucking Adam in a sense. I bet he wouldn't like that. Probably tuck his tail and run off. I am definitely not saying this is the right thing to do. But if he is such a prick...it does kinda seem perfect. Just thinking out loud. Good luck w770

I think it's a good idea to mess with his head. Perhaps Lana can tell him that Evan was a much hotter fuck than him. Will surely give him something to think about!

[Gulfcpl]

What if she fucked Evan? Without dickhead being present. She could tell him how he fucks her so much better than Adam ever has. She loves how his cock feels her up. That's the reason she took him on the couch that night while Adam was asleep. She just needed his cock more than anyone. So she would be cucking Adam in a sense. I bet he wouldn't like that. Probably tuck his tail and run off. I am definitely not saying this is the right thing to do. But if he is such a prick...it does kinda seem perfect. Just thinking out loud. Good luck w770

I think it's a good idea to mess with his head. Perhaps Lana can tell him that Evan was a much hotter fuck than him. Will surely give him something to think about!

Yeah, have Lana fuck with a pissed off idiot’s head. Not good.

[sandy691196]

Adam is a sociopath swine with good muscles..Many folks here, including W and L have been cutting him way too much slack since the first time he tried being a pest after CT.

No one is calling out the elephant in the room that he can do enormous social harm. He is a grifter on the loose with nothing much to lose.

He needs to be dealt with punitively. The cuck thing is supposed to be a sexual kick not a self devouring, flesh eating virus. This here shindig can torpedo the normal life of this couple. With the baby coming that would be a shame.

The man needs to be given a lesson of a lifetime.

My 2 bits.

Sandy

[parmaham55]

I feel like I’m missing something that everyone else gets. Maybe I just see it differently. Everyone is painting him as such a villain.

But from his perspective, if I’ve got this sequence right, Lana embarked on a supposedly secret affair with him in CT, then cut him off, so he wound up W with messages and video clips (thereby showing he’d taken her bareback despite her denying that at first, so then Lana cut him off…..

…so he carried on contact, so then she relented and went on a crazy weekend of sex (including Alex and anal), then she cut him off…

…so he carried on contact and sending W stuff, so then she relented and went on a one-nighter…

…and now she’s cut him off again, so now he’s applying the same tactic.

No wonder he’s confused. He assumes she’ll come round eventually, if he presses the right buttons

….and maybe, who knows, she will in time. Let’s not forget, Lana is running this show and both men know that.

[r_h_nc]

w770

Adam knows both your legal names?

He does not. There's a way to structure cease and desist letters so that privacy is still intact but still push forward the essence of the letter. It's only after official legal proceedings begin that he could become aware of our legal names. Not preferred but hopefully the warning letter has some effect.

Update: He just messaged me "you know she begged me to cum in her, right? Remember that next Father's Day."

Lana has suggested she call him and tell him that I've known the whole time, but I feel like it'll just further antagonize him and the best course of action is to just let it be for now and let any communication go through the legal process.

Thoughts from the community?

Not sure how to frame a cease and desist letter without identifying who he needs to cease and desist contacting. Can you enlighten me. Sincerely curious.

[mundyman]

I feel like I’m missing something that everyone else gets. Maybe I just see it differently. Everyone is painting him as such a villain.

But from his perspective, if I’ve got this sequence right, Lana embarked on a supposedly secret affair with him in CT, then cut him off, so he wound up W with messages and video clips (thereby showing he’d taken her bareback despite her denying that at first, so then Lana cut him off…..

…so he carried on contact, so then she relented and went on a crazy weekend of sex (including Alex and anal), then she cut him off…

…so he carried on contact and sending W stuff, so then she relented and went on a one-nighter…

…and now she’s cut him off again, so now he’s applying the same tactic.

No wonder he’s confused. He assumes she’ll come round eventually, if he presses the right buttons

….and maybe, who knows, she will in time. Let’s not forget, Lana is running this show and both men know that.

Yeah, this^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[leander99]

O, this guys behaviour definitely of Lana's and w770 making. Lana and w770 should have stopped this nonsense the first time, honestly.

But that in no way excuses his behavior. It's dead wrong and stalkerish. No man should behave this wau, even if they had some mild encouragement initially.

He isn't being a bad boy, he's downright abusive. And he could potentially be dangerous, because he does know when to stop.

[w770]

I just came across this thread and w770 it is an understatement to say that it is captivating and addictive. You write very well and each one conveys your angst, jealousy, love, hope, lust and faith in Lana and your relationship. I am less than one-thord of the way thru - around the time of the Christmas party 2022 at Shawn's. Perhaps one day you and Lana may want to post some picture of the sexy hotwife that we have all imagined. If not, you have told us who she resembles closely.

I have subscribed for updates and hopefully complete this soon.

Venus

Wow the Christmas party seems like a lifetime ago. It might sound odd, but when I think about Shawn and our setup back then, it seemed like a much more simple time. Sure he was an ass, but there wasn't ever really a legitimate concern like with Adam, or at least on the same level.

It’s a pity, cuz Adam could have been the ultimate humiliating type of sex charged bull for you guys- if he had played his cards right. His actions reek of immaturity and insecurity unfortunately. Feels akin to a child throwing a tantrum till he gets his toy back. I am not even sure if a one-on-one talk with him will pacify him. If he was not this volatile, could have even played on this more -like you acknowledging that the revelations have been pretty damaging and Lana reaching out saying you guys have had the biggest fight. This feels more of final flail desperation outburst rather than an all consuming forest fire though.

I know, right? He seems like he's a tinder box, ready to explode at any moment that's so easily set off.

This guy is a cyber stalker and you both need to get a handle on this.
Maybe you and Lana need to meet him personally (if it doesn’t stop) and tell him together that this was you both doing this and you both were in on it the whole time. He was the actual cuck as you both played him.
But with an unstable man such as this you actually have to be careful. Best to deal with it legally.
In the Future you both need to be careful. No more of this game. Just have you both be involved in all aspects and never play alone (if you ever decide to do it again). You’re going to have a child and they don’t need to eventually see this somewhere online at some point. They don’t deserve this.

Good points, and to be honest, I don't really think they're any next times, but who knows what life will be like in a few years after kids and our priorities change.

He is also in a way kinda smart. He knows your weakness. His replies may be antagonistic but he also knows what makes you get off. You at one stage would enjoy and promote the scenes he is sending you. Hell I still found it arousing. But those days and that era were designed planned and implemented by you two and now he is playing you to get to her. Be strong patient and protective of your beautiful family. Keep Lana and your future child safe and throw the kitchen sink at him. He is finding rejection hard. Don't read his messages because he can see when you do. Just swipe him off the screen unread.

On top of it being intriguing - seeing how things played out - there definitely was an element of arousal in how he mocked me, but he really doesn't have a sort of regulator or sense of boundaries, unlike something Shawn seemed to inherently understand.

Just completely stop responding. He's getting his kicks out of every response you send

w770

Adam knows both your legal names?

He does not. There's a way to structure cease and desist letters so that privacy is still intact but still push forward the essence of the letter. It's only after official legal proceedings begin that he could become aware of our legal names. Not preferred but hopefully the warning letter has some effect.

Update: He just messaged me "you know she begged me to cum in her, right? Remember that next Father's Day."

Lana has suggested she call him and tell him that I've known the whole time, but I feel like it'll just further antagonize him and the best course of action is to just let it be for now and let any communication go through the legal process.

Thoughts from the community?

The sad part here is that this has all been lies from the start with this predator. You and Lana chose this route. Some of us advised against it. Lying always bites you in the ass. These days truth is not the rule but the exception.

Now you want advice. Totally ignore him. Should he contact people on your FB list, you’ll just have to face the music. Keep responding and he’ll keep antagonizing you.

What if she fucked Evan? Without dickhead being present. She could tell him how he fucks her so much better than Adam ever has. She loves how his cock feels her up. That's the reason she took him on the couch that night while Adam was asleep. She just needed his cock more than anyone. So she would be cucking Adam in a sense. I bet he wouldn't like that. Probably tuck his tail and run off. I am definitely not saying this is the right thing to do. But if he is such a prick...it does kinda seem perfect. Just thinking out loud. Good luck w770

I think it's a good idea to mess with his head. Perhaps Lana can tell him that Evan was a much hotter fuck than him. Will surely give him something to think about!

O, this guys behaviour definitely of Lana's and w770 making. Lana and w770 should have stopped this nonsense the first time, honestly.

But that in no way excuses his behavior. It's dead wrong and stalkerish. No man should behave this wau, even if they had some mild encouragement initially.

He isn't being a bad boy, he's downright abusive. And he could potentially be dangerous, because he does know when to stop.

All good advice and I went over it all with Lana on Thursday night after work. We ultimately decided to ignore for the weekend and see if he shows any signs of tiring himself out. Still didn't send the cease and desist, as we might further incite him, but it's still an option.

I feel like I’m missing something that everyone else gets. Maybe I just see it differently. Everyone is painting him as such a villain.

But from his perspective, if I’ve got this sequence right, Lana embarked on a supposedly secret affair with him in CT, then cut him off, so he wound up W with messages and video clips (thereby showing he’d taken her bareback despite her denying that at first, so then Lana cut him off…..

…so he carried on contact, so then she relented and went on a crazy weekend of sex (including Alex and anal), then she cut him off…

…so he carried on contact and sending W stuff, so then she relented and went on a one-nighter…

…and now she’s cut him off again, so now he’s applying the same tactic.

No wonder he’s confused. He assumes she’ll come round eventually, if he presses the right buttons

….and maybe, who knows, she will in time. Let’s not forget, Lana is running this show and both men know that.

You could be right in that she's running the show, but at least with her current mindset, she's pretty much called off any future meetups with him, primarily out of her focus on being pregnant.

Not quite. She's getting ready now. She took a shower, rubbed her flowery lotion on, straightened her hair, and picked out her sexy gray booty shorts to go with a tight black top over her pink bra and panties.

She'll probably be heading over there in 45 min to an hour is my best guess. Her call was pushed back so it's not a super early call tomorrow morning.

I am stull following along your incredible ride. Maybe this has been answered elsewhere or perhaps is a bit too personal... does Lana keep her pussy fully shaved or a landing strip? Do you help her "prepare" for her trysts - shaving her, applying lotion, selecting her lingerie and things to wear, etc.

I love your detailed descriptions that outline your emotions and near real-time updates...

Venus

Lana goes fully bare. She always has, even before we ever embarked on this journey. As to your other question, I mainly watched her get ready, never really anymore than that. She says she has a specific way she likes to do things like apply lotion and all that other stuff.

Update: He just messaged me - "How's everything at home? Lol, pretty bad I'm guessing. Me and my boy spent the whole weekend slutting your sexy little wife out. Took her bare too. Lol. Oh and I almost forgot - I took her ass. LOL."

Still ignoring him for now.

Did you respond to his comment to him taking her ass as it was virgin ass. Also, you might have perhaps responded saying that her ass is off-limits for everyone and will always stay that way. Since he is the only one in the whole universe to do that, he will surely go deep into that. Not sure, if this conversation will happen now.

I think if you don't respond to him sternly, he will take and treat you as a cuck on your face. Is that what you want? It's one thing behind your back, but currently he is openly challenging and trying to destroy your manhood.

This was something (or at least the sentiment that was expressed) back during Shawn - about him taking my manhood and how I'm ultimately viewed by him, or the guy Lana was "cheating" on me with. I remember likening it to some family gathering we went to where Lana's 16 year old cousin called me a nerd for talking about space and astrophysics. Ultimately, I couldn't care less about she thought because it's the thoughts of some teen girl. I see it the same way as with Adam and him thinking that I'm not a "man." I really don't care about his opinions of me because it doesn't really play a role in my life.

Update: sorry I wasn't able to address every post in the last few days. Time is a bit limited today as we're headed to Lana's grandma's place later.

Like I mentioned above, I went over the suggestions everyone posted with Lana after work on Thursday and we decided to just ignore Adam and see if he eventually gets bored. Every time I would block him, he would create a new profile and send me another video. He's even spent some time editing the videos to add in captions - such as a video of Lana on her back (no face) while he slapped her pussy with his cock, telling her to put it in her if she really loves it so much. He added in the caption "she's mine."

He also texted her from some unknown number telling her that he's in love with her, and that he "knows" she's in love with him too. It's impressive how easy it seems for her to simply read his text, block his number, and shrug it off like it's nothing. She counts at least 5 guys have told her that they were in love with her in the past, so it's nothing new, she claims.

We made love last night and she really just likes sweet sex, much like she did before we started into this life. After I gave her a few orgasms with her toy and oral, I got on top of her and, knowing what gets me off, she started to tease me, telling me how much of a slut she was for Adam, how he fucked her on every surface in his apartment with the windows wide open for everyone to see, how hard he made her cum in every position, etc. I didn't last long and we fell asleep after I came and rolled off of her, holding her.

We're leaving for her grandma's soon, and as I was writing this, I got yet another message from a new profile. I always check, however, as I don't want to miss legitimate messages. "How about this - you watch me and my buddy take turns on your pretty wife and I'll leave you alone after that. Promise."

He doesn't seem like he's tiring himself out.

[lovethis]

Lana needs a new number. She is not responding to his texts but still reading them. It sounds like blocking him doesnt work and I fear she still enjoys the attention. Shut down socials or change them to private only accessed by people of your choosing. Don't read or respond. Seek legal advice from your lawyer. Unfortunately he will have to know the details. A small price to pay for your freedom.

Now this is the hard part. Stop the fantasizing while being intimate. Pillow talk we all know where this leads us. This is how you got her into the lifestyle. There is only one direction this can lead to and that is back into Adam's arms. Tell Lana not to mention Adam's name while you make love to your wife. Hell his name should not be spoken by either of you from this point on. Past boyfriend's maybe, but Adam's name needs to change and both of you need to refer to him as shit face or something that emphasizes the ass he is to you both.

You both are mature enough compared to him, so I am sure at the end of the day you will take the appropriate action that is best for you.

And then why after all the advice that has been offered, how mature you are and how Lana is reading mothering books etc etc etc that I still have this inevitable feeling that it will all be in vain.

[Long Lurker 34]

W770 - In a way it;s really ironic that Adam, being the player he has been, in a sense has been played by you and Lana to the point where somehow he believes he's in love and that it's been reciprocated. I have to wonder how many women in the past he has seduced in some fashion, bedded them and then discarded even when they were genuinely in love with the guy. I guess turn about is fair play and he is learning first hand what it's like to be rejected, even thou Lana wasn't "in love" with him just his abilities and dick.

[airhorn]

O, this guys behaviour definitely of Lana's and w770 making. Lana and w770 should have stopped this nonsense the first time, honestly.

But that in no way excuses his behavior. It's dead wrong and stalkerish. No man should behave this wau, even if they had some mild encouragement initially.

He isn't being a bad boy, he's downright abusive. And he could potentially be dangerous, because he does know when to stop.

All good advice and I went over it all with Lana on Thursday night after work. We ultimately decided to ignore for the weekend and see if he shows any signs of tiring himself out. Still didn't send the cease and desist, as we might further incite him, but it's still an option.

You might check with a lawyer, w770. This behavior smells a lot like harassment: you've told him to stop contacting you, you've blocked him and he's taking steps to bypass those blocks. There's no question this is willful behavior on his part. A C&D might still be part of the process, it's a formal 'go away' message... but this boy could be getting himself into a heap of shit.

[user322]

It's amazing how adam clings

Maybe he is very much in love with lana??

[itsmagic1954]

My first response to your amazing thread. Adam’s behaviour brings to mind noted American psychologist B. F. Skinner, who developed the theory of operant conditioning. He devised an experiment with a rat in a box with a lever attached to a food pellet dispenser. If every time the rat pushed the lever, it would be rewarded with a food pellet. Subsequently the rat learned to only push the lever when it was hungry. If the rat was only rewarded with a food pellet occasionally, the rat pushed the lever feverishly and continuously, waiting to successfully get a food pellet.

Sound familiar?

[venus-can99]

I am finally fully caught up. First of all congratulations to you and Lana and hope and pray for a safe delivery.

With regard to the Adam mess I know everyone here seems to have an opinion, but ultimately you and Lana would have to decide the course of action. You (both) may want to seek some expert advice on this kind of behavior from a professional who will keep any information on the sexual side of the encounter confidential. I know most "normal" (?) folks may view her behavior as cheating or promiscious and that "you deserve waht you got" or "it all her fault".

I actually applaud Lana for taking what she wants and you for having an open communication with her and laying out what pushes your button. Most women (this community excepted) would likely conform to scoeital norms suppressing their desires.

Just my 2 cents ...

Venus

[trecital]

I feel like I’m missing something that everyone else gets. Maybe I just see it differently. Everyone is painting him as such a villain.

But from his perspective, if I’ve got this sequence right, Lana embarked on a supposedly secret affair with him in CT, then cut him off, so he wound up W with messages and video clips (thereby showing he’d taken her bareback despite her denying that at first, so then Lana cut him off…..

…so he carried on contact, so then she relented and went on a crazy weekend of sex (including Alex and anal), then she cut him off…

…so he carried on contact and sending W stuff, so then she relented and went on a one-nighter…

…and now she’s cut him off again, so now he’s applying the same tactic.

No wonder he’s confused. He assumes she’ll come round eventually, if he presses the right buttons

….and maybe, who knows, she will in time. Let’s not forget, Lana is running this show and both men know that.

Agreed. You reap what you sow.

[trecital]

You (both) may want to seek some expert advice on this kind of behavior from a professional who will keep any information on the sexual side of the encounter confidential. I know most "normal" (?) folks may view her behavior as cheating or promiscious and that "you deserve waht you got" or "it all her fault".

Personally, I don't feel that this situation needs escalating to the degree that it requires professional help.

As has been pointed out, Lana and w770 both encouraged this situation, and were less than honest with this guy (as they were with others). And now the guy is being a bit of a pest, that's all. Give it time and ignore him, and he'll almost certainly get bored. Although I'm not convinced that w770 actually wants that.

I doubt very much that many people on this forum would take the view that cheating or promiscuous behaviour, that produces some very mild unwanted consequences (pestering by Adam) is a case of "you deserve what you get". Like we are making some moral judgement about promiscuity.
The only "deserve what you get" aspect that is being suggested, is regards to the fact that Adam, et al, were all used to further w770's cuckold desires, in a less than open and honest way.
If he'd been upfront with any of them, then a lot more fun could have been had.

[Gulfcpl]

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I doubt very much that many people on this forum would take the view that cheating or promiscuous behaviour, that produces some very mild unwanted consequences (pestering by Adam) is a case of "you deserve what you get". Like we are making some moral judgement a
The only "deserve what you get" aspect that is being suggested, is regards to the fact that Adam, et al, were all used to further w770's cuckold desires, in a less than open and honest way.
If he'd been upfront with any of them, then a lot more fun could have been had.


I’ve been saying the same thing since this thing started.

[venus-can99]

Personally, I don't feel that this situation needs escalating to the degree that it requires professional help.

As has been pointed out, Lana and w770 both encouraged this situation, and were less than honest with this guy (as they were with others). And now the guy is being a bit of a pest, that's all. Give it time and ignore him, and he'll almost certainly get bored. Although I'm not convinced that w770 actually wants that.

I doubt very much that many people on this forum would take the view that cheating or promiscuous behaviour, that produces some very mild unwanted consequences (pestering by Adam) is a case of "you deserve what you get". Like we are making some moral judgement about promiscuity.
The only "deserve what you get" aspect that is being suggested, is regards to the fact that Adam, et al, were all used to further w770's cuckold desires, in a less than open and honest way.
If he'd been upfront with any of them, then a lot more fun could have been had.

My apologies if my words implied that the folks in this forum hold the view that Lana (or W) is at fault for promiscous behavior. If anything everyone here has been very supportive and served as a sounding board for W as the situations evolved - many times a bit out of their control.

I just hope Lana gets her wish for a dominant bull who is respectful of her as well as the marriage and family, while W gets his wish of humiliation and cuckold experience in a safe way.

Venus

Venus

[trecital]

Personally, I don't feel that this situation needs escalating to the degree that it requires professional help.

As has been pointed out, Lana and w770 both encouraged this situation, and were less than honest with this guy (as they were with others). And now the guy is being a bit of a pest, that's all. Give it time and ignore him, and he'll almost certainly get bored. Although I'm not convinced that w770 actually wants that.

I doubt very much that many people on this forum would take the view that cheating or promiscuous behaviour, that produces some very mild unwanted consequences (pestering by Adam) is a case of "you deserve what you get". Like we are making some moral judgement about promiscuity.
The only "deserve what you get" aspect that is being suggested, is regards to the fact that Adam, et al, were all used to further w770's cuckold desires, in a less than open and honest way.
If he'd been upfront with any of them, then a lot more fun could have been had.

My apologies if my words implied that the folks in this forum hold the view that Lana (or W) is at fault for promiscous behavior. If anything everyone here has been very supportive and served as a sounding board for W as the situations evolved - many times a bit out of their control.

I just hope Lana gets her wish for a dominant bull who is respectful of her as well as the marriage and family, while W gets his wish of humiliation and cuckold experience in a safe way.

Venus

Venus

No problem. I did think your comment was a bit odd, on a forum talking about cuckolding. It seemed more aimed at what a 'conventional' group might think.
I think maybe your wording left some ambiguity. Sorry if my reading of your comment is incorrect. Anyway, no harm done either way.

Your second paragraph is spot on. I know that not everyone is able to be up front with others about this kink. Some prefer the 'cheating wife' scenario.
But I've always felt that w770 has been slightly ambiguous about his desires. It seems to me he wants to be a cuckold, but is afraid of any loss of control that entails.
If he'd been honest with Shawn, right at the beginning, and discussed what he was trying to achieve, he could have developed a long term cuckold scenario that pressed his buttons.

I think sometimes, that people don't want to 'arrange' their cuckolding scenario....that is to say, they don't want to have it more as a role play. Maybe they think it is less 'real' that way. But it has the benefit of being able to be 'steered' better, and with luck and good judgement, everyone can get what they want.....Lana some big cock and good fucking.....Shawn (or others) get some great married pussy, and w770 gets his cuckold desires satisfied.

When everyone is singing from the same songsheet, the results can be impressive.

[venus-can99]

Great points - if I understand correctly TRUST and honesty is the key among all parties.

[Nycadmanx]

@w770 - just read through this thread for the first time. hell of a story. I have to say though that you two must be the luckiest couple, given the 3 or 4 men she's cucked you with so far have all had HUGE dicks. given you hadn't seen "proof" before, how did you two know they'd be that endowed?

odds are against that happening of course so curious how u guys knew.

[w770]

Lana needs a new number. She is not responding to his texts but still reading them. It sounds like blocking him doesnt work and I fear she still enjoys the attention. Shut down socials or change them to private only accessed by people of your choosing. Don't read or respond. Seek legal advice from your lawyer. Unfortunately he will have to know the details. A small price to pay for your freedom.

Now this is the hard part. Stop the fantasizing while being intimate. Pillow talk we all know where this leads us. This is how you got her into the lifestyle. There is only one direction this can lead to and that is back into Adam's arms. Tell Lana not to mention Adam's name while you make love to your wife. Hell his name should not be spoken by either of you from this point on. Past boyfriend's maybe, but Adam's name needs to change and both of you need to refer to him as shit face or something that emphasizes the ass he is to you both.

You both are mature enough compared to him, so I am sure at the end of the day you will take the appropriate action that is best for you.

And then why after all the advice that has been offered, how mature you are and how Lana is reading mothering books etc etc etc that I still have this inevitable feeling that it will all be in vain.

I understand the sentiment, but I feel like a hard stop on mentioning Adam's name would only build him up in a way, if that makes any sense.

W770 - In a way it;s really ironic that Adam, being the player he has been, in a sense has been played by you and Lana to the point where somehow he believes he's in love and that it's been reciprocated. I have to wonder how many women in the past he has seduced in some fashion, bedded them and then discarded even when they were genuinely in love with the guy. I guess turn about is fair play and he is learning first hand what it's like to be rejected, even thou Lana wasn't "in love" with him just his abilities and dick.

It's amazing how adam clings

Maybe he is very much in love with lana??

Well according to what he tells Lana, he's never been in love before, which could be just more player talk, but we've all been there - young and driven by impulses that you don't necessarily control.

O, this guys behaviour definitely of Lana's and w770 making. Lana and w770 should have stopped this nonsense the first time, honestly.

But that in no way excuses his behavior. It's dead wrong and stalkerish. No man should behave this wau, even if they had some mild encouragement initially.

He isn't being a bad boy, he's downright abusive. And he could potentially be dangerous, because he does know when to stop.

All good advice and I went over it all with Lana on Thursday night after work. We ultimately decided to ignore for the weekend and see if he shows any signs of tiring himself out. Still didn't send the cease and desist, as we might further incite him, but it's still an option.

You might check with a lawyer, w770. This behavior smells a lot like harassment: you've told him to stop contacting you, you've blocked him and he's taking steps to bypass those blocks. There's no question this is willful behavior on his part. A C&D might still be part of the process, it's a formal 'go away' message... but this boy could be getting himself into a heap of shit.

So without outright stating our professions, both Lana and are a very familiar with the legal aspects of our situation and the ramifications of a cease and desist. They really don't carry any legal weight, but it's more of just a fancy warning/notice. The question this whole time though, has been if the act of sending a letter as such would have any discernable impact in a positive way. It's hard to guess as he's shown himself to be someone that's quite explosive and reactive to the moment in front of him.

My first response to your amazing thread. Adam’s behaviour brings to mind noted American psychologist B. F. Skinner, who developed the theory of operant conditioning. He devised an experiment with a rat in a box with a lever attached to a food pellet dispenser. If every time the rat pushed the lever, it would be rewarded with a food pellet. Subsequently the rat learned to only push the lever when it was hungry. If the rat was only rewarded with a food pellet occasionally, the rat pushed the lever feverishly and continuously, waiting to successfully get a food pellet.

Sound familiar?

I'm pretty familiar with B. F. Skinner, and his work on the role of consequences, negative association, and teaching machines and your analogy makes a lot of sense. It's very interesting and wonder if Adam, in a hypothetical vacuum, would respond to the occasional pellet of Lana's pussy, or if he would oblige by his promise of "one and done." My guess is that he's addicted and his satisfaction wouldn't last long.

I am finally fully caught up. First of all congratulations to you and Lana and hope and pray for a safe delivery.

With regard to the Adam mess I know everyone here seems to have an opinion, but ultimately you and Lana would have to decide the course of action. You (both) may want to seek some expert advice on this kind of behavior from a professional who will keep any information on the sexual side of the encounter confidential. I know most "normal" (?) folks may view her behavior as cheating or promiscious and that "you deserve waht you got" or "it all her fault".

I actually applaud Lana for taking what she wants and you for having an open communication with her and laying out what pushes your button. Most women (this community excepted) would likely conform to scoeital norms suppressing their desires.

Just my 2 cents ...

Venus

Thank you for the congratulations! It's been our primary concern for a few weeks now, even with the ongoing Adam situation. I understand what you're getting at with the idea of professional help, but thankfully Adam has scaled back a bit and there are signs at this point that he is tiring himself out.

You (both) may want to seek some expert advice on this kind of behavior from a professional who will keep any information on the sexual side of the encounter confidential. I know most "normal" (?) folks may view her behavior as cheating or promiscious and that "you deserve waht you got" or "it all her fault".

Personally, I don't feel that this situation needs escalating to the degree that it requires professional help.

As has been pointed out, Lana and w770 both encouraged this situation, and were less than honest with this guy (as they were with others). And now the guy is being a bit of a pest, that's all. Give it time and ignore him, and he'll almost certainly get bored. Although I'm not convinced that w770 actually wants that.

I doubt very much that many people on this forum would take the view that cheating or promiscuous behaviour, that produces some very mild unwanted consequences (pestering by Adam) is a case of "you deserve what you get". Like we are making some moral judgement about promiscuity.
The only "deserve what you get" aspect that is being suggested, is regards to the fact that Adam, et al, were all used to further w770's cuckold desires, in a less than open and honest way.
If he'd been upfront with any of them, then a lot more fun could have been had.

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I doubt very much that many people on this forum would take the view that cheating or promiscuous behaviour, that produces some very mild unwanted consequences (pestering by Adam) is a case of "you deserve what you get". Like we are making some moral judgement a
The only "deserve what you get" aspect that is being suggested, is regards to the fact that Adam, et al, were all used to further w770's cuckold desires, in a less than open and honest way.
If he'd been upfront with any of them, then a lot more fun could have been had.


I’ve been saying the same thing since this thing started.

Personally, I don't feel that this situation needs escalating to the degree that it requires professional help.

As has been pointed out, Lana and w770 both encouraged this situation, and were less than honest with this guy (as they were with others). And now the guy is being a bit of a pest, that's all. Give it time and ignore him, and he'll almost certainly get bored. Although I'm not convinced that w770 actually wants that.

I doubt very much that many people on this forum would take the view that cheating or promiscuous behaviour, that produces some very mild unwanted consequences (pestering by Adam) is a case of "you deserve what you get". Like we are making some moral judgement about promiscuity.
The only "deserve what you get" aspect that is being suggested, is regards to the fact that Adam, et al, were all used to further w770's cuckold desires, in a less than open and honest way.
If he'd been upfront with any of them, then a lot more fun could have been had.

My apologies if my words implied that the folks in this forum hold the view that Lana (or W) is at fault for promiscous behavior. If anything everyone here has been very supportive and served as a sounding board for W as the situations evolved - many times a bit out of their control.

I just hope Lana gets her wish for a dominant bull who is respectful of her as well as the marriage and family, while W gets his wish of humiliation and cuckold experience in a safe way.

Venus

Venus

No problem. I did think your comment was a bit odd, on a forum talking about cuckolding. It seemed more aimed at what a 'conventional' group might think.
I think maybe your wording left some ambiguity. Sorry if my reading of your comment is incorrect. Anyway, no harm done either way.

Your second paragraph is spot on. I know that not everyone is able to be up front with others about this kink. Some prefer the 'cheating wife' scenario.
But I've always felt that w770 has been slightly ambiguous about his desires. It seems to me he wants to be a cuckold, but is afraid of any loss of control that entails.
If he'd been honest with Shawn, right at the beginning, and discussed what he was trying to achieve, he could have developed a long term cuckold scenario that pressed his buttons.

I think sometimes, that people don't want to 'arrange' their cuckolding scenario....that is to say, they don't want to have it more as a role play. Maybe they think it is less 'real' that way. But it has the benefit of being able to be 'steered' better, and with luck and good judgement, everyone can get what they want.....Lana some big cock and good fucking.....Shawn (or others) get some great married pussy, and w770 gets his cuckold desires satisfied.

When everyone is singing from the same songsheet, the results can be impressive.

What you're all saying makes sense, however only in a hypothetical where we had endless time. However, this period in our lives always had an expiration date because of Lana's biological clock and her desire to become pregnant around this time.

@w770 - just read through this thread for the first time. hell of a story. I have to say though that you two must be the luckiest couple, given the 3 or 4 men she's cucked you with so far have all had HUGE dicks. given you hadn't seen "proof" before, how did you two know they'd be that endowed?

odds are against that happening of course so curious how u guys knew.

Well we never really "knew" before Lana saw them naked first hand, but with Shawn, there were signs in that he came over one morning in sweatpants that were really thin without underwear, and Lana told me that she could clearly see the outline of his cock and testified to this size. With Adam, she saw him in his swim trucks, and could make out an outline of his cock, so I guess that was her best read of things.

Update: Adam sent Lana a message that somewhat implied that this current stage of things will be seeing its end soon. "Fine. I get it, you want to start a family. I just needed you to know that I love you. The time we had together was the best time of my life and I would treat you like a queen if you were mine. Just know that if you ever get bored of your husband and need something more, I'm here. I love you, Lana." He also sent me a pretty contrasting message soon after. "Have fun raising my baby, cuck. You know it's only a matter of time that your wife is back in my bed."

We spent the day at the baby furniture store, picking out a crib, rocking chair, and all that stuff. Then we came home and watched, "Jersey Boys" one of our favorite movies. Early dinner tonight and then we're planning on starting the day early tomorrow. No texts from Adam since his last message last night.

Thanks again for everyone's thoughts, criticisms, input, etc. I've read every post and appreciate you all taking time out to read and respond.

[Whenwillshe]

I would end his communication by getting new numbers.
He needs to be gone.

[lovethis]

Adam is just a boy. He is still pushing your buttons though. As a cuck do you still enjoy what he is saying? Time will change anyone's thinking and he will find love as us mature ones know. He will move on.
If family were not on the agenda and playing for a finite period was not the end game, then Adam would have been the perfect bull for you and Lana going forward in your cuckold relationship.
Lana seems to have steered in a new direction now. Her motherly instincts have taken over her focus, but how are you. Can you put it away for now until Lana is ready to play again, if she ever does.
One thing is for sure. You have incredible memories you can recall as well as the photos and vids. You also have this journal to relive the good times (and bad) you experienced having a hotwife. It has to be better than a vanilla relationship where none of this would've ever happened.

[trecital]

@w770 - just read through this thread for the first time. hell of a story. I have to say though that you two must be the luckiest couple, given the 3 or 4 men she's cucked you with so far have all had HUGE dicks. given you hadn't seen "proof" before, how did you two know they'd be that endowed?

odds are against that happening of course so curious how u guys knew.

Well we never really "knew" before Lana saw them naked first hand, but with Shawn, there were signs in that he came over one morning in sweatpants that were really thin without underwear, and Lana told me that she could clearly see the outline of his cock and testified to this size. With Adam, she saw him in his swim trucks, and could make out an outline of his cock, so I guess that was her best read of things.

Oh, right. That explains that then.