It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[edgedndenied]

With Shawn contacting you to bond as Lana put it they may be reeling you in slowly with the end game being boy/girl friends with you as having a major part as there cuck. It could work for all.
I would bet if Lana backs away from the LS it will only be temporary

[tojanman]

It’s not gay at all. There’s actually a term for that called “jobuds” (jerk off buddies). I had a friend that enjoyed sharing pictures of his wife with me and we’d take turns cranking one out to her size G titties.

* I should edit to add that there was no touching or crossing of streams. Just mutual appreciation of a hot wife.

[parmaham55]

So addressing the pregnancy timeline - I'm really certain that we waited long enough after her and Adam had sex and confirmed that she wasn't pregnant before we started actually "trying." The only possibility that the child isn't mine is if she's being dishonest in some way with going to see Adam, or even Shawn without my knowledge, which I see no evidence of. I do appreciate the concern and words of caution, and I understand why there would be doubts, but given the circumstances, I don't feel that there's anything to be worried about.

Okay, so ...speaking for the worriers and doubters here...I think you should just ask her. Detailed dates and detailed contact with Shawn. Not about Adam, but Shawn. I'm worried in your interest, not for hot cuck reasons.

[carstonmathers]

It’s not gay at all. There’s actually a term for that called “jobuds” (jerk off buddies). I had a friend that enjoyed sharing pictures of his wife with me and we’d take turns cranking one out to her size G titties.

TIL

[veub]

So addressing the pregnancy timeline - I'm really certain that we waited long enough after her and Adam had sex and confirmed that she wasn't pregnant before we started actually "trying." The only possibility that the child isn't mine is if she's being dishonest in some way with going to see Adam, or even Shawn without my knowledge, which I see no evidence of. I do appreciate the concern and words of caution, and I understand why there would be doubts, but given the circumstances, I don't feel that there's anything to be worried about.

Okay, so ...speaking for the worriers and doubters here...I think you should just ask her. Detailed dates and detailed contact with Shawn. Not about Adam, but Shawn. I'm worried in your interest, not for hot cuck reasons.

There has been more than one husband on this board who was positive that the pregnancy was with his child only to learn differently. Personally, I would want to determine if it was mine sooner than later No matter what you decided to do it's better to be prepared than surprised. DNA tests during pregnancy are not that expensive and are easy.
After to timing, remember that it's perfectly possible for sperm to fertilize an egg days after intercourse.

[m030]

Hi there
Seeing, or at least imagining Shawn's cock has always been part of the pleasure for you, right? And now the two of you have had a private moment. If Lana found it hot to see some physical contact between your and Shawn, what would you say? Have you thought about it yourself?

[Jole30]

I’d love to know your response to a question mundyman (and also others) have raised, which is ‘’ .. the real question is has Lana caught serious feelings for Shawn’’?. Mundyman, further in his post, mentions that ‘’ .. this is a move to polyamory’’ .. would you agree to a polyamory relationship? Finally. You said you were onboard with the community that Shawn moving East would be a bad idea .. have you told Lana this? Does she agree? Would she be prepared to tell this to Shawn? You seem to suggest that Shawn would probably not follow up with this .. but I’d love to know that if he is serious about it, would you and Lana accept it and go along with it or would you both make it clear to him that it would not be accepted?

[user322]

Hi,
I think Shawn has matured! He seems to have much more thoughtful reactions. It seems to me that he handles the game of domination well, and he is preparing the ground to dominate you well and be the alpha male of your relationship.

[mundyman]

As you and Lana talk about your relationship, and more importantly her activities as a hotwife with Shawn, do you ever ask or does she ever share how close to the line she’s gotten? You two are playing with fire, how close has she gotten to the fire?
As in, how close has she gotten to wanting to be with Shawn more than you. I’m not sure yet if she’s the leaving type, if she She would leave you for Shawn, but how close does she get to seeing Shawn as her primary and you as her roommate.
I mean she flew across the country to fuck him and extended her stay with him.
How many times did she entertain the thought of how much she would really like to lengthen her stay out there with him? As in staying for weeks or months with him.
Did they talk about the ‘what if’s’ and ‘how nice would it bes’ and ‘what would it be likes’ while she was out there?
Did they talk about what life with them as a couple, living together in love would be like?

I think Lana has it bad for Shawn, and not just his big cock, and has caught some serious feelings for him and has either not quite come to grips with them, or is being less than honest with you.

Still a very bad idea for him to move out East to live by you two or her going out West again any time soon until Lana truly figures out where this all leads to.

[Jole30]

As you and Lana talk about your relationship, and more importantly her activities as a hotwife with Shawn, do you ever ask or does she ever share how close to the line she’s gotten? You two are playing with fire, how close has she gotten to the fire?
As in, how close has she gotten to wanting to be with Shawn more than you. I’m not sure yet if she’s the leaving type, if she She would leave you for Shawn, but how close does she get to seeing Shawn as her primary and you as her roommate.
I mean she flew across the country to fuck him and extended her stay with him.
How many times did she entertain the thought of how much she would really like to lengthen her stay out there with him? As in staying for weeks or months with him.
Did they talk about the ‘what if’s’ and ‘how nice would it bes’ and ‘what would it be likes’ while she was out there?
Did they talk about what life with them as a couple, living together in love would be like?

I think Lana has it bad for Shawn, and not just his big cock, and has caught some serious feelings for him and has either not quite come to grips with them, or is being less than honest with you.

Still a very bad idea for him to move out East to live by you two or her going out West again any time soon until Lana truly figures out where this all leads to.

My thoughts exactly mundyman .. I hope W gives a detailed reply to this post.

[Whenwillshe]

Granted that we are looking through a keyhole at this whole thing, but it looks to me like poly might be the best W can hope for.
I think if Shawn shows financial competancy, Lana would quite possibly move on with him.
The whole situation reminds me of the Billy Joel song "A Matter of Trust".
The subtle level of deception puts this whole triad very close to the fire.
"The closer you get to the fire the more you get burned."

[tojanman]

I personally think people are way over blowing Lana’s relationship with Shawn. It’s all wild conjecture.

I think Lana just had an itch for big dick now but she’s always seemed to be sensitive to W’s wants and needs.

[Whenwillshe]

I personally think people are way over blowing Lana’s relationship with Shawn. It’s all wild conjecture.

I think Lana just had an itch for big dick now but she’s always seemed to be sensitive to W’s wants and needs.

I hope you are correct

[leander99]

I personally think people are way over blowing Lana’s relationship with Shawn. It’s all wild conjecture.

I think Lana just had an itch for big dick now but she’s always seemed to be sensitive to W’s wants and needs.

I agree. W770 and Lana are fine in my humble opinion

[WarrenOldcuck]

Hi W, I think it's obvious that Lana loves you and cares for you deeply and until now I'm sure that she has always been upfront and honest with you. However, the talk of her and Shawn becoming BF/GF, the text and then video from Shawn to you and then Lana's comment "I'm glad you two are bonding" makes me think they have something planned and are just preparing the ground for a big revelation. Please be careful and I hope I am completely wrong. You two are obviously good together and will make great parents. Lana also needs an occasional FB but not an on the doorstep BF who will take more and more of her time and lead to you being pretty much excluded. I wish you two all the best.

[user322]

Personally I don't think Lana and Shawn have anything planned, at least not together. I think it's Shawn who is preparing the ground, or trying to do so, to completely dominate w770, and have more access to Lana.
On the other hand, what seems to be happening is that Lana seems to take pleasure in Shawn's domination, and w770's submission. She seems to like this dynamic .
I also think that Lana is interested in the bond that is created between w770 and Shawn because it allows the couple to go further in exploring the cuckold relationship, unlike the situation with Adam for example. It should be noted that w770 also seems interested and very excited by this new opportunity that presents itself.
If things continue this way, I think new milestones will be reached, and a deeper cuckold dynamic will take place.

Afterwards I don't know where this could lead for Lana on her side: if w770 becomes too submissive, I don't know if that would cause a change in Lana.....
It will take communication between you to make sure you stay on the same page and not cause problems, good luck!

[carstonmathers]

Shawn is young and like most people has the emotional attention span of a woodpecker. He has no idea what he wants. Lana knows though and she wants to prioritize being a mom. Anything else is a nothing burger.

[3532734dreamer]

Hi w770.

Thank you for the updates so far. And glad to hear the Lana is back and well.

I was a bit curious about your reaction to watching them make love though. You've seen it before in January. And after December you and Lana discussed in length about emotions and came to the conclusion that some level of emotions was unavoidable. That includes you reaction to a video on Lana and Shawn's second to last night in January where you go a video of them making love, Shawn telling Lana he loves her, and Lana telling Shawn she loved him too. You seemed to be able to accept that enough.
What was different between then and now? Was it because Shawn was leaving then? Was love making different now because Lana was with him on the other side of the country?
(Btw, on their last night together I think you received 3 videos from them, but I can't find where you describe the contents. Does anyone else know where it is?).

Your reaction ties into a further thought on the subject.
Was this their first time making love while Lana was there? If it wasn't, was there only a little bit of love making and mostly fucking? Or did it start little and become more and more love making? Or did they start where they left off with a mix of fucking and love making? And, I feel this could be telling, did they make love again (if not right after, then at some point before she left) after you talked alone with Lana and explained how you felt?
I think it's important because with Adam is was mostly fucking and lust. With Shawn it started as fucking and lust, but when love making started it became lust and feelings intertwined.

Continuing through my thought process, after you talked to Lana you received the messages about Shawn wanting them to be bf and gf and moving to to the East coast.
I have to wonder - was this only discussed by them after you talked to her, when he/they realised she would be flying back on the Tuesday? On his initiative? Or was there some discussion between them beforehand and it was only mentioned to you in haste after?
Very telling was her response that you wrote - that she wasn't sure how that would work. She didn't say no there and then. SHE IS OPEN TO IT ON SOME LEVEL. It may not be her idea, but when it was discussed she did not shut it down or play it off as a fantasty. Lana thought about it, about how it could work - because she wasn't sure how it would work, because you would need to be on board with it. She left it open and gauged your reaction to it.
In the same fold, you said "She also thinks that she should really put every extracurricular activity with other men on hold for a while." She should really put it on hold, she doesn't want to, but should... Why only should? Is Lana having conflicting emotions?
These two things and the fact that Lana and Shawn "confessed to each other afterwards [swapping] that they felt pangs of jealousy watching them with another person" leads me to conclude that there are feelings in play. However, I'm not saying this is bad.

This leads me to another quick observation about your video call with Shawn. It seems innocent enough, just two bros. But as I think someone else pointed out, it makes for a good way to connect to you. So it's not just w770 <-> Lana and Lana <-> Shawn, but also w770 <-> Shawn. A nice little triangle. Something to keep you in, perhaps to keep other things going?
I don't think Shawn is dumb. But he doesn't strike me as the patient, long term planning type of guy who sets the ground work and subtly manipulates a situation towards a desired outcome. Think he's more the type that makes a beeline towards what he wants. But we may know a certain other main character who is more the planning type. So if there is more to the interaction than meets the eye, where did it come from?
Then again, it could just be Shawn trying to be a bro, feeling a bit bad because of your reaction to their love making and Lana being away for so long.
But then when you told Lana about the video call with Shawn, she didn't seem surprised (at least from the way you described it), she was just supportive......
I'm also curious about the fact that both Shawn and Lana have so far relayed to you very similar version of the sex they have been having and what they were saying, the order of events and how it was described. It struck me right away when I read your description of your video call with Shawn. That was basically what Lana had described in a previous update from you, but not really anything more. Shawn usually has his own style of talking and details he focuses on. This seemed more like his style but reading from the same script.

Unlike others here I'm not going to say they are full blown feelings (maybe Shawn) or that they are a bad thing. As w770 and Lana have discussed before, there was a possibility and an certainly level of acceptance for it.
It might be hard to know right now because Lana has a history of going too far for w770 but then realing it back to something they agree on. After a lot of talking though, since Lana also has a history of omitting certain details that take some time to come out. But then they talk and get back onto the same wavelength(-ish).

Just to speculate, maybe Lana got carried away during the visit (maybe lingering feelings from before) and now feels bad that w770 had a negative reaction to her love making with Shawn. w770 is still her #1 so she comes back ASAP.
But now she is in a bind. She realises things may have gone a bit too far and hasn't shared all the details. She feels bad about this.
w770's reaction makes it harder for her to come clean with all the details. I don't think she has lied, just not told everything up front, and doesn't know how to communicate it or wants to avoid hurting w770. So she also feels bad about that.
Now she's trying to process everything in her own head (going too far, feelings for Shawn, w770's reaction and possible future reactions, certain proposal for relationship status change between her and Shawn, baby on the way, how to fix everything..) - tough to be a woman.
It will probably take a few days of processing and then a few more days of talking. But w770 should get the full picture eventually. But this is just me speculating based on the limited details we have from w770 and his interpretation of them. I could be way off ofc.

But then again... I would not be surprised if any of what I have described / questioned (or variations of it) trun out to be true. And w770, you shouldn't be surprised either since I'm only going off everything you have said. We should know Lana by now. She is capable of this (she doesn't have any nefarious intent) and has done it before (the first time with Shawn, the events transpiring at the end of December, the beginning with Adam while the two of you were on holiday, her performance during that trip into the city to be fucked by Adam where you both knew what was going on but pretened otherwise). Just as she is able to compartmentalizing. As she did with Shawn when things ended in January. As she did with Adam when things ended. I'm sure she can and will do so again if it comes to that, but I do think she is seeing if it needs to come to that first.

Friday is date night, no? Hope you and Lana have a nice night. Don't let this post or any other get you down. It's not meant that way. Wish you both well.

Edit: Clarifications, wording, spelling & grammar

[gesdell]

Shawn may have feelings for Lana, but I think the excitement of the power dynamic is what really has his attention. People can get bored with the everyday ho hum of a long term relationship, but if you are able to experience something like this with a woman, that makes her more sensual and sexy in your eyes. It also turns him on that you are part of the package, a willing sub that makes him feel like a god. Why else would he facetime with you and get off looking at you stroking your dick whilst you imagine how his cock fucks her better?

[rascalnvixen]

She also thinks that she should really put every extracurricular activity with other men on hold for a while. But then again, she's said this before, so who knows what the future holds.

Remember, the old adage that the pussy rules is true!!! Even for the person the pussy is a part of!!! If her pussy needs a big cock again and it won't relent, she might want another trip to Cali!!!!

Rascal

[Jujube]

I think dreamer is on to something. Without W to rein her in, Lana would run down the cuckold rabbit hole farther than W would ever believe! And deep down, I think that’s precisely what W wants!

[3532734dreamer]

I think dreamer is on to something. Without W to rein her in, Lana would run down the cuckold rabbit hole farther than W would ever believe! And deep down, I think that’s precisely what W wants!

He was playing with fire letting her travel to California to stay with Shawn.
And maybe w770 might want that deep down and somewhat repressed at the moment. Hadn't considered that. It may take a while for him to become comfortable with that fact.
But Lana, omg, incredible Lana, appears to be able to move much more quickly.

[william70]

I would think Lana is in seventh heaven. She has a boyfriend she has in the past told she loved him. She has a husband who is now bonding (some what sexually) with her boyfriend. This is surely a win win for both of them. I would be highly surprised if both W and Lana don't ask Shaun to move to the east coast to be near them.

[lovethis]

Your thread is amazing and it hasn't even been a year since Lana started to play. Lots of interesting thoughts from a caring community who only want the best for you in this situation. Lana kind of proved her love for you immediately changing her plans after you let her know how you were feeling, You have history with her and a love beyond sexual desires.
Whatever happens in the future it is just a matter of constant open communication between you and Lana that ensures both needs and desires are met and understood. There is a lot of advice from the community to help you as you move forward.
One thing good about Shawn is that he respects you after the talk you two had before Lana went to see him. Maybe its time to talk to him again about his plans to move to your location and the full reason why he wants to move knowing that Lana is going to have a baby in the coming months. One obvious benefit for you if he does move out is that Lana does not have to spend days away from you as she had to the last time she visited Shawn.
The best outcome for you is Shawn close by as a fuck buddy for Lana as well as cucking you, but boyfriend girlfriend not a good idea with baby coming along. Talk to him tell him if he wants to play he will have to respect your wishes.

I am sure Lana and Shawn have already talked about another visit. Why not invite him over to your house for a weekend or 2

[Jole30]

Your thread is amazing and it hasn't even been a year since Lana started to play. Lots of interesting thoughts from a caring community who only want the best for you in this situation. Lana kind of proved her love for you immediately changing her plans after you let her know how you were feeling, You have history with her and a love beyond sexual desires.
Whatever happens in the future it is just a matter of constant open communication between you and Lana that ensures both needs and desires are met and understood. There is a lot of advice from the community to help you as you move forward.
One thing good about Shawn is that he respects you after the talk you two had before Lana went to see him. Maybe its time to talk to him again about his plans to move to your location and the full reason why he wants to move knowing that Lana is going to have a baby in the coming months. One obvious benefit for you if he does move out is that Lana does not have to spend days away from you as she had to the last time she visited Shawn.
The best outcome for you is Shawn close by as a fuck buddy for Lana as well as cucking you, but boyfriend girlfriend not a good idea with baby coming along. Talk to him tell him if he wants to play he will have to respect your wishes.

I am sure Lana and Shawn have already talked about another visit. Why not invite him over to your house for a weekend or 2

Having a regular FB could be a good idea, but not one she’s already in love with. If memory serves, one reason she ended with Adam was because she was beginning to have feelings for him .. yes, it was mostly sex but deeper feelings were beginning to take hold. Lana and Shawn are already in love (maybe to a lesser degree on Lana’s part) .. but with Shawn living next door as well as becoming her FB these feelings are bound to get deeper. If this is NOT what W and Laana want then they should think twice about Shawn moving closer .. especially with the baby coming .. this is THEIR time to get closer as a family, as opposed to inviting a 3rd person into their life. I am sure after the baby is born the time will come when Lanna and W will again go back to this LS .. but now it is family time.