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Unread post by subguy80 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:04 am

SutterKane wrote:If you have the time, I'd love to hear how you went from swinging to becoming Subguy80? Were you always submissive? If not, how did it progress to where you are now? Did Sarah encourage you in this?
After several years of trying to get pregnant, Sarah was suddenly pregnant with our second child when the first one wasn’t even a year old. It was crazy. Between breast feeding, sleepless nights, active toddlers, moving to a new house and my ever-growing job, our sex lives had really suffered.

We needed to do something to get some eroticism back into our lives, so we eventually went back to swinging after five years. Our old group had disbanded and this new group we found allowed single men. I always enjoyed watching Sarah with other guys, but this opened up a whole new world for me. Now single men were hitting on her and I was enjoying that. In 3-ways, I started taking a more supportive and passive role, while he took the lead with her.

The guys would pick up on that dynamic and the more I played beta, the more they played alpha. I liked it and Sarah liked it, too. Numbers were exchanged and that led to her having connections with guys outside of the swinger parties. That was new for us and we both loved it. Sarah was feeling sexy, again, after two kids. It was an “escape” for her from the demands of motherhood. She was loving the attention.

I had always known that Sarah needed “other men.” I accepted that long ago and was comfortable with it. The difference now was that I was getting turned on by it! I decided to embrace the feeling and stop wondering why I felt that way. I loved the fact that men were lusting after my sexy wife. Sarah could see I was enjoying this direction and she was supportive and, yes, she encouraged me to go as far as I felt I wanted to go. And that's exactly what we've done.

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Unread post by SutterKane » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:25 am

Fascinating as always SubGuy!
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Unread post by subguy80 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:25 pm

We had an amazing Christmas. I hope everyone else did, too. This afternoon I took the boys to stay with my folks for a few days and we transitioned from Santa to adult fun. For the first time, Jamal is going to stay with us until Sunday when the boys come back. He's spent the night, of course, but this will be almost 5 days together at our place. Should be interesting. When I returned after dropping the boys off, Jamal and Sarah were already in the bedroom having fun. Although I hadn’t been invited, I decided to quietly undress and go watch them.

Sarah motioned me over to join her on the bed. One of my favorite things to do is to hold her while she’s getting fucked. Sitting and watching is always fun, but it’s so much hotter when I cradle her and kiss her while another man makes love to her. It makes me feel like we’re sharing the fucking. I feel like I’m reinforcing my commitment and support to her, but it’s also the perfect expression of my sub role.

I used to do this a lot with Aaron. I haven’t had much of an opportunity to do it with Jamal since I’m usually not included in their play. This afternoon was a notable exception! I moved to the bed and cuddled and kissed Sarah as Jamal fucked her. She was moaning and quivering in response to his movements and I could feel her body react to his motions.

We went on like this for a long time. I could have held her all day, but I could sense his breathing getting faster and louder and knew he was getting close to ejaculating. Sarah loves it when he shoots inside her. She’s told me several times. I was getting ready for the "moment," but he altered his routine. As he climaxed, he pulled out and shot a huge load on her breasts and belly, just missing my face as I tongued her breasts.

Maybe he saw it in one of the cuckold porn movies I bought for them. Of course, I didn’t hesitate. I licked up the drops of semen close to her breasts and then moved down to her belly, licking up each one. At one point, I turned and looked at him while I lifted up a big glob with my tongue. He was watching and grinning. I guess he got the reaction he was looking for. When I finished, Sarah pulled my head toward her lips and we shared a long, deep kiss.

They’re both at the gym now. I can't wait to ask Sarah if they ran into any of his friends there and what the reaction from them was. I’m looking forward to lots more hot fun over the next few days. I’m taking a few days of vacation, so there should be some interesting “opportunities.”

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Unread post by offendedgame » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:59 pm

Thank you for the update
And merry Christmas to you and Sarah

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Unread post by Serrand » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:38 am

Hello, It's been a little while since I last checked on your thread. First, I want to wish you, Sarah and your family all the best for the new year. I hope you don't mind, if I sound a little less enthusiastic than some of the other people here in the following.

On one side it's relieving to hear that you're still excited and enjoying the current arrangement. I mean it must be nearly four months since the last time you had full sex with Sarah, with everything that including this. I'm kind of impressed, this certainly takes a lot of willpower, in my opinion. Far more than I could ever manage. I know, you and Sarah compensate the current lack of penetrative-sex in your love life with other things like Tantra. And I don't doubt that this is also very intimate and emotionally connecting for you and Sarah.

But to be honest, on the other side, I would have thought, if not youself, that Sarah, independently of Jamal, would have the need or longing for to have vaginal sex with you again, after so many months. To be connected with the only man she loves again in this kind of way. I know I know, if you would say something you could have full sex with Sarah immediately. But what makes me a little thoughtful in a way is, that Sarah herself doesn't express the need or desire to have penetrative sex with again after quite a while. To feel your dick inside of her again during your "love-making". Or to be blunt has Sarah expressed the desire and need to end your dick's abstinence from her pussy soon?

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Unread post by SutterKane » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:15 am

subguy, I'm glad you had a very good Christmas time! I hope that the new year will bring the three of you what each of you truly needs in this lifestyle!
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Unread post by subguy80 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:29 pm

Serrand wrote:But what makes me a little thoughtful in a way is, that Sarah herself doesn't express the need or desire to have penetrative sex with you again after quite a while. To feel your dick inside of her again during your "love-making". Or to be blunt has Sarah expressed the desire and need to end your dick's abstinence from her pussy soon?
I appreciate your insights. They always make me think about the points you raise. I went back to my other thread I started a couple of years ago, “Sex Restrictions for Cuckold Husbands,” and re-read the posts. Those posts are more pertinent to me now than ever. According to the 375+ responses, the majority (60%) of cuckold husbands have no sex or some form of restricted sex with their wives. So, I think my progression is fairly typical. Is four months without intercourse that unusual? I read about other cucks who have gone for years and wonder if that is my future?

On that other thread, Bradisalpha wrote something that resonated with me at the time and as I re-read it now, it is even more relevant and accurate for me. Brad wrote: “Titillated and worried at the same time is keeping you excited, isn’t it?? Wondering what is next and yet cannot wait to find out?? A cuckold with restrictions is a very attentive cuckold!! And if his attention begins to dwindle, I raise his restrictions. Brad”

Do I miss fucking my wife? Yes, sometimes I think it would be wonderful to slip inside her warm and tight pussy. But, on the other hand, I feel like we do “connect” on a sexual level without the need for intercourse. I can handle the absence because my “needs” are being met in so many other ways.

You ask if Sarah misses having intercourse with me and connecting on that level? Honestly, if I were to ask her if she “missed” my penis inside her pussy, I think her honest answer would be “no.” That might seem “harsh,” but remember she has lots of contact with my penis in other ways. My dick gets lots of attention from her: the hand jobs; the Jailbird; the rare anal and lately, “breast fucking” her, which we never did that much of before.

This is an over-simplification, (maybe I’ll feel differently in a few months), but right now, I feel like I don’t have a cock. I have a dick. I have a penis. But I don’t have a cock and there’s a big (no pun intended) difference. Sarah needs a cock to fuck her and she has that right now, with a handsome black man attached to it. She’s in heaven and I wouldn’t dream of asking her to stop. She takes care of me and my “little guy” in many ways other than with her pussy, so I’m good. But, Sarah’s pussy needs a real cock.

Brad’s point about “raising restrictions” is also very true. Jamal has continued to increase my restrictions over these five months of sex with Sarah. I think part of it at first was seeing how much he could get away with, but I can tell he is also enjoying the response his restrictions produce in me. Just when I begin to “accept” a restriction and it becomes normalized, he’ll introduce something new. It’s both “concerning” and highly erotic.

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Unread post by frank r » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:44 pm

Subguy80 i think you are 100% correct!


Only the wife and the cuckold himself can gauge what works for them both. To me my dance with my wife
is working for both of us as a married couple. The inclusion of Sir is giving us both pleasure. Both Beth and of
i feel we have been truly enjoying the life we share. Sir's presence is part of it. For the pleasure he brings to
her is why i can kneel and call him SIR!

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Unread post by Ben_Bradman » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:27 pm

subguy80 wrote:Jamal has continued to increase my restrictions over these five months of sex with Sarah. I think part of it at first was seeing how much he could get away with, but I can tell he is also enjoying the response his restrictions produce in me. Just when I begin to “accept” a restriction and it becomes normalized, he’ll introduce something new. It’s both “concerning” and highly erotic.
It would be great if you can share more details on the kinds of restrictions Jamal has progressively added over last 5 months (especially the most recent ones).

Another thing I am curious about: when Jamal is at your home (as in current 5 day stay) then is Sarah "his" for the entire day or the entire duration of stay (or is she his just during playtime)? I suspect Sarah is totally focused on him as it would be her way of compensating Jamal for the normal days where she spends all the time and entire nights with you and he gets just 1 hour in the morning.

I hope three of you are having a time of your life these days!
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Unread post by SutterKane » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:43 pm

I really enjoy you prospective on your cuckolding.
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Unread post by subguy80 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:23 pm

Happy New Year, everybody! It's been an amazing 2018 for us. Sarah and I will be home with the boys (well, they'll be in bed) tonight. Jamal wanted her to go with him to a party, but she took a pass. She said she didn't want to be the "old lady" with a bunch of millennials. She had a lot of "fun" with him while he stayed with us (it was fun for me, too) but it's nice to have our "regular" lives back and I'm looking forward to having a nice, quiet time alone with her tonight.

I'll give some more details about the past few days when he was here when I get some more time.

A happy and healthy 2019 to everyone and thanks to those of you who read my posts and give me such good insights!! Your comments are more helpful than you will ever know.

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Unread post by Mark605 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:14 pm

I really enjoy reading your story, Subguy! Happy New Year for you and Sarah!

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Unread post by frank r » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:30 am

Happy NewYear to a fellow traveller on the road to submission!

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Unread post by subguy80 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:16 am

Ben_Bradman wrote:It would be great if you can share more details on the kinds of restrictions Jamal has progressively added over last 5 months (especially the most recent ones). Another thing I am curious about: when Jamal is at your home (as in current 5 day stay) then is Sarah "his" for the entire day or the entire duration of stay (or is she his just during playtime)? I suspect Sarah is totally focused on him as it would be her way of compensating Jamal for the normal days where she spends all the time and entire nights with you and he gets just 1 hour in the morning.
Sarah is “his” when he stays with us. Not just playtime. She and I talked about that before he came over and I told her not to worry about my feelings. They needed the time together. Also, something I wanted to “test” was to see if it would feel like “they” were the couple and I was the “3rd” and how that would make me feel, in my own house. The relationship with her ex-BF, Aaron, never felt that way because of his personality, but I think it could be different with Jamal.

Mostly it did feel that way and mostly I liked it. Yes, I had to give up my bedroom and marital bed for a few days, but that was hot in its own way. I can forego almost all sexual contact with Sarah during his stay because the trade-off is that I get “vicarious” sex by watching them. One morning I came into the kitchen and found them having coffee. Sarah was in her panties and bare breasted. Jamal was just in boxers. He asked me how I slept. As in, “I fucked your wife in your bed while you listened from the spare bedroom. How was that?”) That kind of posturing on his part is very common now. I replied, “great,” and asked them how they slept and then watching their grins as they said, “fantastic.” Sarah kissed me good morning and then returned to Jamal. He gave her nipple a tweek and kissed her on the lips, a very long, passionate French kiss, making sure I am watching. They were the couple and I was the loving, supportive husband in a very non-sexual way, like I was neutered. He seems to be really enjoying that game. I wouldn’t want that dynamic with Sarah full-time, but I have to admit it was lots of fun and very hot for five days.

Other than the first day, I wasn’t involved in any of their sexual activity. I watched a lot, but no touching. I was caged from the time he arrived and I’m still caged, two days after he left. This seems to be his way of reminding me of his presence even when he isn’t around. I’m hoping Sarah will take my dick out soon since I miss connecting with her in one of the few ways we have left. Even uncaged, her pussy and ass are off limits for me. I can look, but not touch.

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Unread post by SutterKane » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:52 pm

This has to be difficult for you at times and very sexually powerful at others, which one predominates? Are the good times worth the tough? Are you looking forward to being cucked and denied harder this new year? Where do you see you and Sarah's relationship at the end of 19? Did 18 end where you thought it would at the beginning of the year?
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Unread post by Ben_Bradman » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:14 pm

Subguy80 - I wish you and Sarah a brilliant 2019 on all fronts. I do hope all the wishes and dreams of you both would come true.

But be careful in what you wish for!

I often worry about how deep you are going in this and when you will enforce limits that Jamal won't be allowed to cross. May that's already happening - I know it is must be happening in non-negotiables. But what about the rest?

If Sarah were to put together a list of her closest 'frends/confidants' excluding you and her parents then would Jamal figure in that list? In top 5 or 10? Just trying to get a characterization of their relationship beyond sex.
subguy80 wrote: A happy and healthy 2019 to everyone and thanks to those of you who read my posts and give me such good insights!! Your comments are more helpful than you will ever know.
The opposite is very much true. You probably have no idea how insightful and often directly very helpful your thread is to the readers.
subguy80 wrote: The relationship with her ex-BF, Aaron, never felt that way because of his personality, but I think it could be different with Jamal. Mostly it did feel that way and mostly I liked it.
It would be good to hear about the other side of the coin too, if you don't mind sharing. At least the other side sounds like insignificant. Is it?
subguy80 wrote: Other than the first day, I wasn’t involved in any of their sexual activity. I watched a lot, but no touching.
I can't understand this. I mean I would like to understand how to explain the reasons behind this. I am surprised. Jamal gets pure 1:1 every single day with Sarah. The 5 day visit provided such a wonderful opportunity. Why not take advantage and move things a bit further in including you? What's going on in Jamal's mind? Is he asserting in power and exclusivity by excluding you? He has seen you eat his cum from Sarah at least twice - does he not enjoy that? Do you feel he needs more time to be a classic bull before he begins to enjoy those things? Has he sensed your interest in getting included and that is why he is trying to make you desperate and/or is finding power/pleasure in denying you what you want? Does he want you to beg for it?
subguy80 wrote: I was caged from the time he arrived and I’m still caged, two days after he left. This seems to be his way of reminding me of his presence even when he isn’t around.
Based on what I recollect or understand from what you have shared till now Sarah had been the decision maker on when you get caged in and when you get out of it. Has she handed over that privilege (power) to Jamal? Please can you share details on when and how this transfer of power happened? Is Jamal the sole decision maker? Or Sarah and Jamal decide by consensus? Does Sarah have a veto?
subguy80 wrote: Even uncaged, her pussy and ass are off limits for me. I can look, but not touch.
Do you think that your 'looking at her naked' privileges are the next in the pipeline as far as the progressive increase in restrictions are concerned? Would you accept that? Or would you say enough is enough?

I know I bother you way too much with too many intrusive questions. I hope you don't mind. It would be great to get more details on the adventures you and Sarah had with Jamal over these 5 days. Apart from details on various 'events' and 'acts' it would be good to get your critical analysis of those. I know I am asking for lot. Some statistics for the 5 day visit (how many PIV, PIA, BJ, CIM, etc...how many orgasms, how many outings (those 2 only or all 3 of you) etc would be good too.

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Unread post by coastalkid » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:58 pm

SutterKane wrote:This has to be difficult for you at times and very sexually powerful at others, which one predominates? Are the good times worth the tough? Are you looking forward to being cucked and denied harder this new year? Where do you see you and Sarah's relationship at the end of 19? Did 18 end where you thought it would at the beginning of the year?
All great questions SK! I want to know the answers to these questions also!
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Unread post by subguy80 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:00 am

Ben_Bradman wrote:I often worry about how deep you are going in this and when you will enforce limits that Jamal won't be allowed to cross. May that's already happening - I know it must be happening in non-negotiables. But what about the rest?
Ben, I’ll have to respond to your questions in several posts. You will be keeping me busy, Ha! I sense some concern from you and thank you for that, but let me make a comment about something that sometimes gets lost in all the “noise.” My life with Sarah and my children is by far the biggest part of my life. These posts that I make are my therapy, my escape and a “safe place” where I can say things that I can’t say anyplace else (sometimes not even to Sarah). Because I generally don't write much about my personal, non-sex life, it may seem that we live and breathe sex, and that it dominates our life. It's important, but we keep it in perspective. We are two adults with healthy and strong sex drives (especially Sarah), but sex is just that, sex.

I’m not threatened by the fact that she’s in a sexual relationship that has resulted in changing the sex that I have with her. And, yes, I'll call it “a relationship” because they are going on five months of strong sex together and it’s more than a fling. I have willingly (with Sarah’s involvement) given Jamal “rights” in that relationship and some "rights" he has taken. Of course, that implies I have willingly let him "take" some rights because I know that at the end of the day, I could use my "red card," but I don't want to. Not yet. I’ll get into more detail of that when I answer your questions later.

Just because she “gives” to another man, with her attention, her time or her body, doesn’t mean she is “taking” from me, or that our relationship is diminished. I never feel that way. Some day, I, along with Sarah's input, will draw lines and we won't go past those lines. But we're not there yet. Because so much of my sex is “vicarious” through her, even these restrictions don’t make me feel that our sex is diminished, even when I’m just an observer to her sexual activities.

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Unread post by NewOldCuck » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:44 am

subguy80,
I’m new here and to the lifestyle of cuckolding but I couldn’t agree more. There is so much more to a healthy vibrant relationship than just sex. In your case there’s your children, both sets of families and friends and a shared history. When something important happens, who’s the first person you want to share it with? When times get tough, who does Sarah turn to for comfort? Jamal can’t touch that. Don’t get me wrong, in my short time, I’ve seen what an aphrodisiac cuckolding can be. It really has opened up a new door into our sex life. But, in the end, it’s just our sex life, not our love life. Sorry, hope I didn’t get into a rant in my first post here.

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Unread post by frank r » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:09 am

subway 80

Happy New Year !

Thanks for you last statement. I too am sub.... to Beth and SIR her bull . Beth and I have a life full and warm life.
SIR is a small portion. This blog isn't about my day to day life with Beth! When he is here in our lives he is SIR.
In daily life he is Pete! The rules that SIR has instituted are rules that all three of us find hot!

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Unread post by subtoall » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:24 am

subguy80 wrote:
Ben_Bradman wrote:I often worry about how deep you are going in this and when you will enforce limits that Jamal won't be allowed to cross. May that's already happening - I know it must be happening in non-negotiables. But what about the rest?
Ben, I’ll have to respond to your questions in several posts. You will be keeping me busy, Ha! I sense some concern from you and thank you for that, but let me make a comment about something that sometimes gets lost in all the “noise.” My life with Sarah and my children is by far the biggest part of my life. These posts that I make are my therapy, my escape and a “safe place” where I can say things that I can’t say anyplace else (sometimes not even to Sarah). Because I generally don't write much about my personal, non-sex life, it may seem that we live and breathe sex, and that it dominates our life. It's important, but we keep it in perspective. We are two adults with healthy and strong sex drives (especially Sarah), but sex is just that, sex.

I’m not threatened by the fact that she’s in a sexual relationship that has resulted in changing the sex that I have with her. And, yes, I'll call it “a relationship” because they are going on five months of strong sex together and it’s more than a fling. I have willingly (with Sarah’s involvement) given Jamal “rights” in that relationship and some "rights" he has taken. Of course, that implies I have willingly let him "take" some rights because I know that at the end of the day, I could use my "red card," but I don't want to. Not yet. I’ll get into more detail of that when I answer your questions later.

Just because she “gives” to another man, with her attention, her time or her body, doesn’t mean she is “taking” from me, or that our relationship is diminished. I never feel that way. Some day, I, along with Sarah's input, will draw lines and we won't go past those lines. But we're not there yet. Because so much of my sex is “vicarious” through her, even these restrictions don’t make me feel that our sex is diminished, even when I’m just an observer to her sexual activities.

This is a really good description of how the cuckold/hotwife lifestyle can enhance rather than threaten a marriage when there is trust, respect and frequent honest communication. Kudos to you and Sarah.

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Unread post by subguy80 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:36 am

SutterKane wrote:This has to be difficult for you at times and very sexually powerful at others, which one predominates? Are the good times worth the tough? Are you looking forward to being cucked and denied harder this new year? Where do you see you and Sarah's relationship at the end of 19? Did 18 end where you thought it would at the beginning of the year?
The short answer is, yes, I'm very much looking forward to seeing where things go with Jamal in 2019 and, yes, there are times of mixed feelings for me. At times I'm actually afraid things might end with Sarah and Jamal because I'd miss it. I really would. Sometimes I feel like a moth drawn to a flame. I'm enjoying "the ride" and the sexual feelings are so intense, even though I've been restricted from my wife's pussy. So far I've found ways to stay sexual with her, but that will be challenging if he/they continue to add restrictions. I'm out of chastity now and she plays with my dick a lot and that has become a nice substitute for fucking. This past year, we learned that a lot of sexual satisfaction can come from tantric practices and that's opened a door where one has closed (her pussy). Overall, right now, the good outweighs the frustrating times.

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Unread post by Ben_Bradman » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:32 am

subguy80 - My apologies. I did not articulate my concerns properly in my last post and that led you to make the following clarifications:
subguy80 wrote: I sense some concern from you and thank you for that, but let me make a comment about something that sometimes gets lost in all the “noise.” My life with Sarah and my children is by far the biggest part of my life. These posts that I make are my therapy, my escape and a “safe place” where I can say things that I can’t say anyplace else (sometimes not even to Sarah). Because I generally don't write much about my personal, non-sex life, it may seem that we live and breathe sex, and that it dominates our life. It's important, but we keep it in perspective. We are two adults with healthy and strong sex drives (especially Sarah), but sex is just that, sex.
I never had any concerns about the sex part getting more than a healthy share in your life or adversely impacting family life for you and kids. Of course that risk is always there in this lifestyle - but I think you and Sarah are role models in how well you manage that risk.

I probably should not be raising any concerns at all because I don't know how meaningful they would be considering that I know very little about you, Sarah, Jamal, and your life. For me to use the bits and pieces you share here to come up with concerns could be futile or irresponsibly speculative.

Nevertheless, since I hinted at concerns in my last post I will try to clarify what was biting me. One is that you appear to hold back in writing about what you found frustrating when it comes to interactions with Jamal. That's a very good mindset for you to have and I need to stop my imagination to create issues that may not exist. Surely you or Sarah would deal with undesirable aspects before they became issues. And I feel sweet Sarah cares for you a lot and probably wouldn't be in this relationship with Jamal (or at the very least would not enjoy it so much) unless she knew that it was what you 'needed' as well. I love that you both are doing this more for your spouse than for yourself. It is beautiful to me.

My second concern may be a bit more obvious in other questions I asked in last post. It is related to progressive increase in restrictions and your expectations about getting involved in playtime not getting satisfied. I know that as sub you find that in itself quite exciting and arousing and even if that is not the case sometimes I think you may still be happy enough because watching Sarah in heaven with Jamal is giving you what you want and need. So it is clear that even if some of your (perceived) needs aren't met there is more than enough to (vicariously) satisy you instead/overall. Nevertheless, I would really appreciate more insight on what's happening and how you perceive it and how you avalyze it and rationalize it.

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Re: Big new development in our cuckold arrangement

Unread post by subguy80 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:08 pm

Ben_Bradman wrote: So it is clear that even if some of your (perceived) needs aren't met there is more than enough to (vicariously) satisfy you instead/overall. Nevertheless, I would really appreciate more insight on what's happening and how you perceive it and how you analyze it and rationalize it.
You ask good questions. I just don’t always have answers. I can tell you how I feel, but I don’t always know why.

Because I love the mental part of subbing and being cucked, Jamal’s slow progression as a “bull” often frustrated me. However, I’ve come to realize there is a subtlety to some of his actions and I’m appreciating that about him more, especially in the past few weeks.

For example, although he’s never been bashful with Sarah and he’s never been hesitant to “put on a good show” in front of me, he would generally take her into the bedroom at some point and shut the door. But recently he’s started to leave the bedroom door open. I took that as a possible cue, a possible invitation. So, a couple of weeks ago, I quietly entered the bedroom and sat in a chair. He didn’t ask me to leave, so now it has become part of our modus operandi. He routinely leaves the bedroom door open now and I routinely go in and watch. That’s a big, big improvement for me.

Although I’m seldom asked to join them in bed, there is always the possibility of some involvement that he dangles in front of me. He ordered me to clean his creampie from Sarah a few weeks ago and that broke his “no pussy” rule, giving me hope it will happen again. Rather than a “hard rule,” he seems to be using it as a power trip that he can turn on and off, at his pleasure. He seems to like that and I like not knowing “what is coming” from him.

At one point last week, he was fucking Sarah doggy on the bed, with her head facing me. He told me to kneel in front of her, but not touch her unless I was given permission. That was something new and it was wonderful, this ordering me and giving me directions. He could watch me, on my knees and I could watch him, behind her. I could alternate between seeing his eyes on me and then watching Sarah, seeing her facial expressions and reactions to his thrusts. I remember feeling her warm breath on my face as she moaned. I was in chastity, of course, so there was never any expectation I would orgasm, but it was almost hotter that I couldn’t. My erection was pushing against the cage and it was painful, but I was enjoying what was happening more than the pain it produced.

He and Sarah used to just focus on each other when they fucked. It was like I wasn’t even in the room. Now, like the other night, he’ll sometimes do things that bring me in on some level. To turn me on, it doesn’t have to be anything more than talk. I’m happy with that. So, yeah, I think the sometimes-reluctant and unassuming Jamal has learned that power can be an aphrodisiac. He is evolving and I like what he is becoming. Is there a risk I'll regret what I ask for? I suppose, but right now I like how it feels.

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Re: Big new development in our cuckold arrangement

Unread post by RGB49FL » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:03 pm

You guys seem to be having a lot of fun with this situation. Enjoy it to the fullest as long as you can. One thing I learned too late, don't over think it.

Have as much fun as you can. Stuff happens. Carpe Diem.

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