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Unread post by D+D » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:12 am

After following this couple for a very long time, I am very convinced that Sarah quite successfully manages her activities with other men. She has a very good handle on how much her husband can handle and what turns him on. I admit that it can get kind of scary for them by we outsiders, but they have proven over and over that they are very well grounded. Jamal may think that he's the man, but Sarah is in total control. I guarantee. Love you guys!

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Unread post by SutterKane » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:55 pm

D+D wrote:After following this couple for a very long time, I am very convinced that Sarah quite successfully manages her activities with other men. She has a very good handle on how much her husband can handle and what turns him on. I admit that it can get kind of scary for them by we outsiders, but they have proven over and over that they are very well grounded. Jamal may think that he's the man, but Sarah is in total control. I guarantee. Love you guys!
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Unread post by Southernman » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:51 pm

Subguy80,

Keeping this thread on page 1 where it belongs. We would love an update!

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Unread post by subguy80 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:54 am

Hey Southernman, thanks for the post. Things are good with us. I do have an update, actually. Last weekend, for the first time in many months, we went to a BDSM party at our friend Bill's house. It was the first time anyone in that group had seen Jamal. It was clear from Sarah and Jamal's behavior they were an "item." Sarah wore her unbelievably sexy bustier and turned a lot of heads. Jamal borrowed some leather chaps somewhere and he got a lot of looks from the ladies. People were used to seeing me in a sub role and most knew I am a cuckold, so the surprise for them was seeing Sarah with a new guy.

After a while, we separated. Sarah and Jamal watched some demos and I talked to several people I knew. Some wanted to know what happened to Aaron and some wanted to know details about our sex and what I was allowed or "not allowed" to do. Usually I'm more reserved, but I felt like I wanted to talk about it and wanted people to know. In that group, I knew no one would be shocked. I spent most of the evening hanging out with another guy I knew was also a cuckold. His wife and her BF were off and he was also single. He hasn't had sex with his wife in over two years. It was hot to share stories and details.

Jamal had a great time. Sarah said another couple they met were very "interested" in her and Jamal. This couple invited them to their home, sometime, so that could be an interesting development. All in all, it was a hot and fun evening and we'll definitely go again.

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Unread post by desertsub » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:30 am

Sounds like a great party! My wife and I have attended a couple of BDSM parties and both times she kept me naked the whole evening, wearing nothing but leather wrist and ankle cuffs, my chastity cage and a collar and leash. As you said, the people at these parties are more openminded than most and my wife actually received several compliments from both men and women at both parties! She and I love being with a group of people where we can put it all out there for everyone to see and nobody judges.

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Unread post by frank r » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:26 am

subguy80 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:54 am
Hey Southernman, thanks for the post. Things are good with us. I do have an update, actually. Last weekend, for the first time in many months, we went to a BDSM party at our friend Bill's house. It was the first time anyone in that group had seen Jamal. It was clear from Sarah and Jamal's behavior they were an "item." Sarah wore her unbelievably sexy bustier and turned a lot of heads. Jamal borrowed some leather chaps somewhere and he got a lot of looks from the ladies. People were used to seeing me in a sub role and most knew I am a cuckold, so the surprise for them was seeing Sarah with a new guy.

After a while, we separated. Sarah and Jamal watched some demos and I talked to several people I knew. Some wanted to know what happened to Aaron and some wanted to know details about our sex and what I was allowed or "not allowed" to do. Usually I'm more reserved, but I felt like I wanted to talk about it and wanted people to know. In that group, I knew no one would be shocked. I spent most of the evening hanging out with another guy I knew was also a cuckold. His wife and her BF were off and he was also single. He hasn't had sex with his wife in over two years. It was hot to share stories and details.

Jamal had a great time. Sarah said another couple they met were very "interested" in her and Jamal. This couple invited them to their home, sometime, so that could be an interesting development. All in all, it was a hot and fun evening and we'll definitely go again.
Thanks for the update... you have helped me develop a sane approach to being a cuckold at ease with his choices.Thank you!
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Unread post by Southernman » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:43 am

Subguy80,

Please let us all know how you and everyone was dressed Was Jamal exposed wearing the chaps, how was Sarah dressed, and of course you and being caged. Were you exposed?

We all want to know

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Unread post by subguy80 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:23 am

Southernman wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:43 am
Subguy80,

Please let us all know how you and everyone was dressed Was Jamal exposed wearing the chaps, how was Sarah dressed, and of course you and being caged. Were you exposed?Southernman
Sarah wore her bustier outfit, with lots of cleavage showing, a leather skirt and high-heeled boots. Jamal wore a jock strap under the chaps and was shirtless. As usual at these parties, I was naked and caged. I wore a collar.

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Unread post by subguy80 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:28 am

desertsub wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:30 am
My wife and I have attended a couple of BDSM parties and both times she kept me naked the whole evening, wearing nothing but leather wrist and ankle cuffs, my chastity cage and a collar and leash. As you said, the people at these parties are more openminded than most and my wife actually received several compliments from both men and women at both parties! She and I love being with a group of people where we can put it all out there for everyone to see and nobody judges.
Exactly! We need to start going, again, on a regular basis. His events are more organized now. He wants to highlight and demo various “skills” and kinks at each event. Last week was flogging.

He asked me if I had any ideas for a possible “cuckold demo.” He said the cuckold LS was a popular kink right now and he thinks people would enjoy seeing it played out. He wondered what I thought of the idea of having the husband tied to a chair while the wife and her BF put on a “show” in front of him (and in front of the group)? The “show” would demonstrate the cuckold power dynamics in an erotic and visual way. He asked Gary (the other cuckold husband in the group) if he and his wife and bull would be interested in participating. I asked him what the “show” might entail and he said the sky’s the limit. It all depends on what the participants are comfortable with. I told him I’d obviously have to ask Sarah and Jamal, but I’d consider it. Have any of you guys seen anything like this? If so, how did it go? Any ideas? I saw a porn flick once that was pretty close to Bill's idea and it was hot.

When I mentioned it to Sarah, she immediately said she wasn’t interested. She generally shies away from that kind of “spotlight” in front of an audience. But, later, she surprised me by coming back and saying that she’d think about it and talk to Jamal if I would be interested. I said that I would. I haven’t heard back from either of them, yet, but her response was encouraging. Bill’s parties aren’t “sex parties,” per se, but he does have a sling and a fucking bench that are sometimes used. So, the group would not be shocked if the demo involved sex. In fact, I’m sure they’d love it. I’m wondering if there are some other demos we could do to illustrate our “dynamic,” but Bill’s idea may be the best so far.
Also, @frankr, thanks to you for your nice comments!

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Unread post by wannabecUKold » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:30 am

Thanks as ever for the post, subguy.

Since the group at Bill's house have now met Jamal and Sarah as an item, plus you, it would seem only fair that the three of you demonstrate the cuckold dynamic to them.

Imagine you and Sarah coming into the room as evidently husband and wife. You both start clothed and you partly undress Sarah to show off her lingerie. She then strips you naked and sits you down on a chair, legs wide apart, and ties you down. At this stage the audience is still expecting one-on-one BDSM.

But then Jamal enters, clothed, and Sarah and he kiss passionately in front of you. She then proceeds to strip Jamal, who shows his hot body off to the audience. She leads him to you and you fluff him and kiss his arse. He then undresses Sarah and they proceed to have sex directly in front of you. You show the audience your erection. Antlers are put on your head and a notice 'I am a cuckold' is hung round your neck. After Jamal has fucked, you're untied and you clean Sarah and you kiss Jamal's arse again. Sarah cages you. Sarah and Jamal exit with you following them.

Of course, if Bill can arrange for a couple of wives to cuckold their unforewarned husbands straight after, that would make the occasion.

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Unread post by Xalar11 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:42 am

wannabecUKold wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:30 am
Thanks as ever for the post, subguy.

Since the group at Bill's house have now met Jamal and Sarah as an item, plus you, it would seem only fair that the three of you demonstrate the cuckold dynamic to them.

Imagine you and Sarah coming into the room as evidently husband and wife. You both start clothed and you partly undress Sarah to show off her lingerie. She then strips you naked and sits you down on a chair, legs wide apart, and ties you down. At this stage the audience is still expecting one-on-one BDSM.

But then Jamal enters, clothed, and Sarah and he kiss passionately in front of you. She then proceeds to strip Jamal, who shows his hot body off to the audience. She leads him to you and you fluff him and kiss his arse. He then undresses Sarah and they proceed to have sex directly in front of you. You show the audience your erection. Antlers are put on your head and a notice 'I am a cuckold' is hung round your neck. After Jamal has fucked, you're untied and you clean Sarah and you kiss Jamal's arse again. Sarah cages you. Sarah and Jamal exit with you following them.

Of course, if Bill can arrange for a couple of wives to cuckold their unforewarned husbands straight after, that would make the occasion.
I have the impression some people are really exaggerating with their submissiveness and self-degradation sometimes. I wonder if they should have any children - My God, you can only pray they would never found out anything or they would be impaired psychological for their life.
I could be wrong, but I still can't imagine that Sarah wants "to emasculate" her husband in this way.

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Unread post by wannabecUKold » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:11 am

Thanks xalar11. Speaking as a parent, my experience is that children squirm at any idea that their parents might be having sex, even missionary position in the dark. They would be out of the room so fast that they would never learn the whole story. lol

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Unread post by subguy80 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:09 am

I’m not sure how the subject of kids got into this discussion???

Some of your ideas, wannabecUKold, are hot to think about, but I wouldn’t do them in front of this group. Everyone in this group is very comfortable with the top/bottom dynamic, since it’s what BDSM is all about. Although I’m sure many in this group are swingers and play with others, many couples don’t. A husband may let his wife be tied up or flogged by another man, but would not let the other guy fuck his wife.

So, the question for us is what level of cuckolding would be appropriate to demo in a BDSM setting to show the emotional and physical side of the LS without being “too much?” I’ve been naked and caged in front of this group on several occasions, with Sarah hanging on the arm of another guy in front of me, so that isn’t a surprise to anyone. I’m sure everyone assumes that Sarah is having sex with her “friend,” with my permission. What most of them don’t know, however, is the level of “enjoyment” I get out of that arrangement and the details of how that plays out.

I like the idea of me “presenting” Sarah to Jamal, maybe undressing her for him. I think I need to be caged. I don’t think I want to suck or rim Jamal. I haven’t even done those things in private, yet, so I certainly don’t want to debut that in front of an audience. Sarah hasn’t been naked with this group and she told me she might consider that as a “coming out” for her. And, I think it’s important for Jamal to show his cock. The contrast between his cock and my dick shrunken in the cage will make a big visual statement that is central to our cuckolding. Beyond that, we don’t have any more ideas, but Sarah and I sure had a lot of fun last night in bed thinking of different scenarios!!

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Unread post by wannabecUKold » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:10 am

That sounds good, subguy. The sight of Jamal's beautiful young cock will be a prime attraction - alongside Sarah's debut nudity. You having the cage put on will give them a frisson, making all the men cross their legs.

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Unread post by RGB49FL » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:20 pm

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Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:09 am
I don’t think I want to suck or rim Jamal. I haven’t even done those things in private, yet,
Yet? Do you see more contact with Jamal in your future? Is this something which turns you on, exciting for you?

As always, your submissions (pun intended) are very hot. Thanks for sharing your journey with us.

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Unread post by D+D » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:38 am

Undressing Sarah for Jamal in front of the group would definitely be a fitting cuckold duty and would be appreciated I'm sure by all present. Seeing her beautiful body would be a pleasure for all I'm sure. If you go the additional step of Jamal being naked too, how would you propose him getting undressed, on his own, by Sarah, or by you? Perhaps he stays dressed and you give her to him, they kiss and he leads her away naked. I suggest you consult Bill for his opinion. I would definitely consider doing something. It's to hot to pass up.

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Unread post by desertsub » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:53 am

As subguy said in his last post, there is rarely any fucking at BDSM parties. At the do's and don'ts discussion before the start of our parties it is made clear that intercourse is okay as long as everyone involved is agreeable and any mess is promptly cleaned up but I have yet to see anyone actually fuck at a party.

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Unread post by Ben_Bradman » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:01 am

@Subguy80 - you have reported some very interesting developments recently and I am hoping that you can shed some light on what's happening under the hood there. I am referring to Sarah and Jamal potentially deciding to explore swinging (after Bill's party) and Jamal sharing Sarah with other guys based on their discussions a few days/weeks before Bill's party. Two questions here:
(1) After so many months of increasing intensity and increasing depth in the relationship between Sarah and Jamal are they finally reaching a plateau of sorts? Many people consider swinging to add variety and spice to their sex life. Is that what's going on in Sarah and Jamal's minds?
(2) Based on what you've told us Sarah has never ever been exclusive ('monogamous') to a single man - with the exception of Sarah's child rearing days which are best excluded from consideration. So the way I see it, if a bull needs to demonstrate his 'ownership' of Sarah then he wouldn't share her at all. In fact, he'd keep her all to himself as long as possible as opposed to a typical bull who might share an innocent/shy/newbie hotwife to broaden her horizons or to flaunt his power over her or his ownership of her or to trade her pussy for some new pussy. But Jamal is hot enough to get women easily without 'trading' Sarah. Can you tell me about your viewpoint on this?

Finally, I've got a third (and more) questions for you too:
What's the relationship between the two like these days? Any changes that you've noticed in last 4-8 weeks? Do they argue or have lovers' spat? Who typically apologizes first? Who initiates the make up? Can you share some examples to give us a good sense of what the relationship is like?

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Unread post by subguy80 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:30 am

RGB49FL wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:20 pm
subguy80 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:09 am
I don’t think I want to suck or rim Jamal. I haven’t even done those things in private, yet,
Yet? Do you see more contact with Jamal in your future? Is this something which turns you on, exciting for you?
More contact? Maybe. The other day he had me hold his cock in my hand while Sarah took a picture of it, then another picture of his cock next to my caged dick. I've inserted his cock into Sarah's pussy, also, so there is some touching between us and he's not the least bit shy about that. Does it turn me on? Yes, I must admit I was turned on by the "humiliation game" of penis comparisons. We all had fun with that photo session. I'm not sure how he'll use those pics, but my face wasn't in them, so I don't care. And it was very hot to insert his penis in her. I've done that a couple of times and we all enjoy that. I suspect we'll evolve into more things.

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Unread post by subguy80 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:31 am

@Ben_Bradman, I wouldn’t say things between Sarah and Jamal have “plateaued,” as much as they’ve settled into a routine that works for all of us. No one is more surprised than me that this thing has lasted more than six months. I figured at some point Jamal would want to find someone and start a family. But he tells Sarah he’s very happy with the way things are. He’s apparently not interested in starting a family. He likes kids, but doesn’t want any of his own. That could always change. He’s only 25.

They may go out for drinks with this couple they met at Bill’s party recently. They just have to find a time. It sounds like there is the possibility of some “playing” with this couple. You ask why Jamal would share Sarah? I think it’s as simple as the reason most of us enjoy non-monogamous sex. They both have strong sex drives and I think they’re at the point where they would enjoy the spice, as you say. Personally, I’m turned on by the idea and would love it if they started to play with others.

To your last question, Sarah and I don’t really argue much. We have our differences like any couple, but we’re both pretty mellow and inclined to talk things out. On the rare occasion when we get “mad” or frustrated with each other, it’s very short-lived. I’m an introvert and Sarah’s an extrovert, so we like to spend our time differently. Being a Hotwife allows her to express herself in a healthy way and, conversely, the LS “plays” to my introverted tendencies.

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Unread post by Ben_Bradman » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:06 am

@Subguy80 - thanks for fielding my questions. It's great to hear about the routine (never thought that I'd ever say that about 'routine' but in this case things are different) particularly because it appears to be working for all three of you.
Subguy80 wrote: To your last question, Sarah and I don’t really argue much...
I wasn't clear in my question. My intention was to request more details and examples of lovers' spat between Jamal and Sarah and who typically initiates make up.

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Unread post by subguy80 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:49 am

I thought I’d have something hot to post for you guys today because Sarah and Jamal went for drinks last night to the home of the couple they met at our BDSM group. I think both parties assumed there would be some “play.” There was some “play,” but it didn’t turn out well.

Apparently, the wife struggled to take Jamal’s cock, to the point where it became a turn-off for everyone. Sarah said Jamal was gentle and really tried to open this lady up slowly, but nothing worked. She whined and cried out in pain when he wasn’t even one third in. The husband was distracted by his wife’s obvious discomfort and consequently was pretty much a dud for Sarah. The husband was on the smaller side, according to Sarah, so the wife was probably used to his much smaller penis.

When I got a text from Sarah at 8:00 p.m. saying they were headed to Jamal’s place to have “a proper fuck” I knew something must have gone wrong. She couldn’t spend the night with him because we have the boys this weekend, so we had hot pillow talk when she got home.

Sarah has always been able to handle a bigger cock. Maybe it’s her anatomy or her yoga training or the fact that she’s had two kids. Whatever the reason, she never had a problem with Aaron and Jamal and they are both big boys. Sarah said Jamal told her on the ride to his place how much he appreciated the fact Sarah could take him and he didn’t have to worry about hurting her. When I’ve watched them, he does seem to love to go deep. I know I like to go balls-deep, myself, (although it’s been a while) so I can understand how he appreciates that about her.

So, they won't be getting together with this couple again. I hope that doesn't turn them off to other opportunities.

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Unread post by Xalar11 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:16 am

Sorry to hear that this didn't worked out. Certainly, Sarah did look forward to it.

I have to admit I'm curious, you said you got the text from Sarah at 8 p.m., when did she come home to you? Does she plan to see Jamal again on this weekend?

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Unread post by desertsub » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:23 am

I definitely understand what Jamal was talking about, being appreciative of Sarah's ability to take all of him. Years ago I had a friend who was hung like a horse. We were sitting in a bar getting sloshed one night and he told me that having a big cock wasn't all it's cracked up to be. He said that it was very rare that he had sex with a woman and was able to actually experience being all the way inside a woman. That gave me a whole new perspective to being well endowed.

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Unread post by subguy80 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:12 am

I’m leaving in a few hours to check into a quiet motel we know, over on the beach. As much as I enjoy being around them and watching, I told Sarah I thought she and Jamal needed some time alone, without me. He finishes work for the weekend about 4:00 today, so that will give them today and tomorrow, more alone-time than they’ve had in a while.

My only request was that I not be caged. I normally find it hot when I’m caged and they’re together, but this is different. I want to have my dick free. Sarah agreed and even told me maybe I’d pick up someone and have sex with her. We laughed. That isn’t on my radar these days and she knows it, although I always have her permission.

I’ll check in, go for a long walk on the beach and find a spot for cocktails and dinner. A cuck husband, alone in his thoughts, while his sexy wife has fun with her BF. I'm pretty excited about it.

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