Re: Wife discussion with friends
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:13 pm
I have a different perspective on the issue, somewhat.
To me, humiliation is not entirely within the control of the person who us judged to be "humiliated". It is true what you are saying that you can not feel humiliation about something which others believe you should be humiliated about, but in my experience I think what I have discovered is that I end up being humiliated nonetheless in some of these circumstances.
My wife has friends who are very young, modern, West Coast types who think that our lifestyle is awesome and like you, would find nothing humiliating about our circumstances. However...she also has friends, who, like her, are from Russia and the former Eastern Bloc who cannot believe that I am willingly cuckolded. Some of these friends, to put it bluntly, consider me to be a fool. Whether I feel humiliated or not, some of these friends, I know for a fact are laughing at me behind my back - regardless of how I feel. I would argue that to whatever extent that I'm the butt of their jokes, I am suffering some humiliation whether I wish to or not.
I am not offended by this: centuries of literature across cultures from Chaucer to Moliere have frequently enjoyed using cuckolds as a comic device - for whatever reason, many people are amused by a man who allows or tolerates an unfaithful wife. And if people want to laugh about it, I don't really have a problem with that even if I happen to be the butt of the joke. But I can't really pretend that I'm not aware that her Russian friends take great amusement out of the fact that not only has my wife has given me the horns, but that I have gratefully accepted them.
To me, humiliation is not entirely within the control of the person who us judged to be "humiliated". It is true what you are saying that you can not feel humiliation about something which others believe you should be humiliated about, but in my experience I think what I have discovered is that I end up being humiliated nonetheless in some of these circumstances.
My wife has friends who are very young, modern, West Coast types who think that our lifestyle is awesome and like you, would find nothing humiliating about our circumstances. However...she also has friends, who, like her, are from Russia and the former Eastern Bloc who cannot believe that I am willingly cuckolded. Some of these friends, to put it bluntly, consider me to be a fool. Whether I feel humiliated or not, some of these friends, I know for a fact are laughing at me behind my back - regardless of how I feel. I would argue that to whatever extent that I'm the butt of their jokes, I am suffering some humiliation whether I wish to or not.
I am not offended by this: centuries of literature across cultures from Chaucer to Moliere have frequently enjoyed using cuckolds as a comic device - for whatever reason, many people are amused by a man who allows or tolerates an unfaithful wife. And if people want to laugh about it, I don't really have a problem with that even if I happen to be the butt of the joke. But I can't really pretend that I'm not aware that her Russian friends take great amusement out of the fact that not only has my wife has given me the horns, but that I have gratefully accepted them.