Fantasy evolution over time

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Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by anondesires » Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:57 am

I've had this fantasy for about 6 months now but it has shocked me how quickly it has evolved. Things I thought I would never be into gradually became hot only when I was really horny and then gradually become hot when I'm even mildly horny. I also thought some things wouldn't be hot or tempting in reality but are actually much hotter or more tempting in reality. I'd be interested to hear how the fantasy has evolved over time for other people. I'm also nervously curious what might be next for me as I feel like this is it now, but I've thought that before.

I'll go first:
10 years ago - I got curious about cuckold porn and femdom porn but didn't know why, I didn't think it was something I wanted
6 months ago - I started getting thoughts of my friend's bigger dick fucking my girlfriend, I tried to fight the thoughts
5 months ago - I realised that cuckold porn turns me on as a fantasy but I didn't want it in reality, I didn't like the extreme elements of it (chastity/cleanup/cock sucking...)
3 months ago - I started lurking on this forum, looking to find out what happens to others in my situation
2 months ago - The thought of my girlfriend forcing me to eat a creampie becomes hot when I'm close to cumming
5 weeks ago - I signed up to this forum, posted about my situation, I started to accept that this was me now and tried to start discussions with my girlfriend about our fantasies.
4 weeks ago - My girlfriend confesses that she's been craving better sex with other men
3 weeks ago - I agree to allow her to fuck a guy she fucked before we got together
2 weeks ago - The guy cancels on us, a few days later she forces me to confess that the idea turns me on. She tells me that the thought of me sucking a bigger cock turns her on, I get turned on by her telling me but don't know why.
1 week ago - I watch her fuck for the first time. I realise that she no longer sucks my dick and that she enjoys me going down on her when she didn't before.
2 days ago - She went out with other men, told me she might do something, I edged myself all evening and ate her pussy when she got in, not knowing or caring whether I was eating creampie or not

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by Wannabee » Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:24 pm

Hi Anondesires, I've been following your story and love your developing relationship. Unfortunately for me, it will always just be a fantasy. My wife of many years is completely against any sex outside our marriage. I've tried to go down this path many times but now accept it will never happen. You, on the other hand, have a wonderful opportunity to fully explore your fantasies. Go for it while you can.

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by anondesires » Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:29 pm

Wannabee wrote:
Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:24 pm
Hi Anondesires, I've been following your story and love your developing relationship. Unfortunately for me, it will always just be a fantasy. My wife of many years is completely against any sex outside our marriage. I've tried to go down this path many times but now accept it will never happen. You, on the other hand, have a wonderful opportunity to fully explore your fantasies. Go for it while you can.
Thanks. Sorry to hear that your wife isn't interested. It is the fantasies that I'm interested in and how they've evolved over time, or maybe they haven't for you?

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by elina » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:37 am

Dear Anondesires

Thank you for summarizing your journey described in your original thread, and allowing a few additional nuggest here.

Most interesting to me is the information that 10 years ago you got curious about not just cuckold-porn, but also femdom porn. I think that to many of us, some forms of cuckolding includes an element of Female Domination as well. Not for the Hotwife version where the male cuckold has a strong say about what goes on and can stop it when desired, but certainly when it gets to the Cuckoldress version where the Female has complete control of who She fucks and when, and the cuckold accepts that the Lady is in control, often also of the sexlife of the cuckold is She decides to lock the cuckold in a chastity device. I have heard of couples starting out from a Femdom marriage where the Dominant Female eventually decides to introduce cuckolding to the relationship, and cuckold marriages where the male gradually accepts that his Wife has full control and they drift into a FemDom marriage. I am NOT saying that everyone develops along these lines.

To me, this all started when I was in my teens. Buying Penthouse magazine to look at the stunning Ladies and reading the Readers stories. I discovered that in most numbers in those days, there was at least one letter that included Female Domination, many of these letters also included the Lady's entitlement to fuck other males. I became pretty obsessed with these letters but I think initially at least I fantasized about being enslaved by a Lady who would train me serve Her in any way She wanted, in particular if there was a female writing they allways described a desire to have their slave willingly and eagerly proving oral service whenever the Lady wanted it.

Maybe somewhat similar to your thinking 6 months ago, this was always like a Dr Jekyl and Mr Hide thing inside of me. I would jerk off looking at the pictures of the Penthouse pets while fantazising that I was the slave of that Lady. But in reality, I wanted to find and fall in love with a wonderful sweet Lady, to marry Her, have kids and settle down with a family. For sure, I had understood that most Ladies enjoyes having their pussies eaten so I would always do that for any girl where I had the chance.

Eventually, I did marry a wonderful Lady and things were good between us. But my fantasies of being enslaved by Her, and eventually She deciding to cuckold me did not go away. In the early 2000s when the internet became a thing, I discovered Elise Sutton's Female Superiority site. The site is gone now but you can still buy Her books on Amazon. In particular "Female Domination" and "The Femdom Experience" can offer valuable insights. She basically describes this as an exploration for how Female dominance and male submission in loving relationships can lead to much better marriages and greater happiness for both parties.

On Her website, there was this article entitled something like "Advice for married males looking for a Dominant". Naturally, I opened this full of curiosity and interest. It starts off with the statement that "If you are a married male looking for a Dominant Female, you are probably already living with one, but She may not realize it".

The essence is that nearly all Females have latent dominant desires; they very much want their males to worhsip them, to court them, and feel that their hubby is just so eager to be a good boy and please Her. So Elise Sutton's advice to males like me was to seduce that Latent dominant desire by threating the Lady as their Queen. Focusing on Her needs, always supporting. Acting in increasingly submissive ways and treating Her every wish as an order to be carried out with a happy look in attempt to please the Lady.

Elise Sutton's prediction was that the more submissive the male became, the more dominant the Lady would simply start to act. She cautioned against starting out with talking about Female Domination. And at least initially, Elise Sutton was NOT advocating that cuckolding was a natural part of these unions. Later when She had lots of female subscribers writing to Her She saw that a large fraction of these Ladies soon desired to have their freedom to have sex with whoever they wanted, while keeping their submissive husbands faithful and frequently locked in chastity.

So I started this with my Wife. Previously, my Wife by accident looking at the browsing history discovered that I had been on the page of a Dominant Lady. She raised this with me and was very concerned because She did not feel that was not at all like Her. I promised not to go there again. And as I followed Elise Sutton's directions, I discovered that my Wife gradually grew more confident, I could introduce Her to mild dominance (it wasn't called this but was more focussing on how much fun both parties could have from the Wife taking pleasure from wrapping her man around Her little finger and having him do anything She liked for him).

As my Wife grew more confident, I also discovered that i took more and more pleasure from obeying Her and pleasing Her. Eventually, again in line with Elise Sutton, I could introduce my Wife to Her books. Maybe one evening every week, my Wife would read a chapter in one of these books as I was nude on my knees in front of Her massaging and kissing Her legs untill my Wife was finished with whatever She was reading and would allow me to worship Her pussy. We went from always fucking after a chapter with my WIfe on top riding me, to Her starting to deny me, to Her starting to keep me in chastity and eventually whipping me. She never cuckolded me but when this topic came up in the books I noticed how intense the smell of Her pussy was by the time I was allowed to lick Her.

Eventually, we were about to formalize our marriage into something which in today's terminology would have been a Female Led Relationship level 3 or 4. But then my Wife decided that we had two small children now and She did not want to act on these desires while raising the kids... So like the good obedient husband I had become I accepted this and did my best. Now the kids have grown and I still crave this and are now trying to re awaken my Wife's desires.

One key element from Elise Sutton that I think is relevant for you Anondesires is the dynamic Elise Sutton describes. When a male starts to become more submissive, and I suspect that your Girlfriend perceives your cuckold fantasies to be an act of submission to Her. You are willing to allow Her to enjoy Herself with other males while you have no interest in pursuing other Ladies. Your Girlfriend may not have considered this as Fem Dom, but She used to want you to dominate Her and wasn't that eager to have you lick Her pussy. Gradually, you awaken Her sexual desires and Her desires to have you lick Her pussy has been awakened. She has stopped sucking you cock, but actually pegged you to force you to admit that you wanted to be cuckolded. That is actually a very dominant thing to do.

The dynamic here is that as you become more submissive, She senses this and it awakens Her desires for sex with males with bigger cocks and more stamina, She becomes more dominant in pursuing these relationships, taking you further down the cuckolding route. While you sense Her more dominant urges and responds by becoming more eager to please Her, jumping to lick Her pussy never mind that you did not know if She had just fucked someone or not. When your Lady is becoming more decisive in pushing this true, you become more submissive in your willingness to accept.

Does this make sense to you?

The really good thing in your relationship is that your Wonderful Girlfriend clearly cares for you. She is actively trying to pursue this in a way which will not frighten you away so that She can keep you as Her Boyfriend. As you described in your summary of your evolution above, you are responding by loving Her more, wishing Her to be happy and accepting that you gradually allows Her to have Her way with you.

To me everything happening is natural. It is also beautiful. Accept yourself as you are, your wonderful Girlfriend loves you as much as before She inadvertently teased out your cuckold desires. Love Her and learn with Her.

To me, there is nothing wrong with being a cuckold or a submissive in a relationship. Those of us in these categories generally wants our Female partners to be happy, to feel loved. And we want to be loved in return for being what we are.

Sincere regards
elina

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by wannabecUKold » Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:41 am

There are two aspects of your story that I find very exciting.

The first is the speed at which the pair of you have moved since five weeks ago, when you first decided to join OHW, resulting, within a matter of weeks, in you watching another man fuck your girlfriend. That day will never leave your mind.

You have been lucky that your girlfriend was quite sexually experienced before your relationship. So she perhaps was waiting for you to catch up and let her make this move.

The second aspect is the incredible way that you two have been communicating with each other, both in and out of the bedroom. I love the way that she has teased your desires out of you. And the way that she has persuaded you to go further than you might have cared to. Many of us have wives who are unwilling to look into our psyche and enjoy and support what they find. She reads you very well. Personally, I think you should let her take you where she wants to, and to wherever she finds in your mind.

So on that basis, I wonder if you should draw up a second table, mapping out your girlfriend's progress to date since her days of threesomes. Then a third and fourth table forecasting where you will each end up in the coming months. I think both of you will move quite fast and will do so in tandem.

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by anondesires » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:54 am

elina wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:37 am
Thanks for explaining how your fantasies started out and evolved, it's interesting to hear about and compare. There's a lot of similarities.

The cuckold and femdom porn started out as hot concepts to me, not something I wanted, it was just hot to watch sexually confident women. Then it became hot to imagine it happening to me, but in an alternate universe, not my girlfriend. Then it became my girlfriend but just as a fantasy, I didn't want it and couldn't imagine her doing it. Then I could imagine her doing it and that meant that I especially didn't want it to happen.

I never got to the stage of wanting it to happen, or rather, not by myself. Things went a bit crazy and she convinced me to let it happen for a different reason.

I was reading intro and going deeper into situation and Jeremie11231 mentions a few times how it's different when something goes from being a fantasy that you can choose to think about when you're horny and masturbating to being something that's real all of the time, whether you're in the mood for it or not.

I feel like I knew that would be the case, that's one of the reasons why I wanted it to stay as a fantasy, but real life forced my hand and now I'm living it, whether I was prepared, wanted it or not.

I find it interesting that you and Elise Sutton believe that all women are waiting to discover their dominant side. Growing up, girls were only interested in dominant guys, women weren't interested in submissive guys. Even women in cuckolding relationships have their urges to be dominated, probably even more so. So how does it come to be that women end up with submissive guys? For us, I essentially faked dominance for years. Had I been "myself" from the start, she probably wouldn't have been interested. I think it's only because we've built up such a connection that she's been willing to embrace what we're getting into now.

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by anondesires » Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:14 am

wannabecUKold wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:41 am
You have been lucky that your girlfriend was quite sexually experienced before your relationship. So she perhaps was waiting for you to catch up and let her make this move.
Sometimes I wonder if she's been coaxing me into this from the start. I think the reality is that we both came to similar conclusions by ourselves and during the same time period. I think it had been getting increasingly more difficult for me to satisfy her anyway, the excitement was wearing off. That left her frustrated and craving more capable guys. Meanwhile I found myself fantasizing about similar things. The difference was she was frustrated and keen to push on, I wasn't frustrated, I was still struggling with the fantasy of it.
wannabecUKold wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:41 am
The second aspect is the incredible way that you two have been communicating with each other, both in and out of the bedroom. I love the way that she has teased your desires out of you. And the way that she has persuaded you to go further than you might have cared to. Many of us have wives who are unwilling to look into our psyche and enjoy and support what they find. She reads you very well. Personally, I think you should let her take you where she wants to, and to wherever she finds in your mind.
That's probably easy for someone to say when they're not living in constant torment of what he might be put through each day :lol: It's the psychological things we do together that fuck me up, the mind games, the manipulation, pushing my boundaries, she really gets into that stuff now. When she's doing something with another guy, she gives me every opportunity to say no, it's a much easier time :lol:
wannabecUKold wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:41 am
So on that basis, I wonder if you should draw up a second table, mapping out your girlfriend's progress to date since her days of threesomes. Then a third and fourth table forecasting where you will each end up in the coming months. I think both of you will move quite fast and will do so in tandem.
That sounds difficult. It was difficult enough trying to understand where my own mind was at for each stage of the way.

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by sucker00 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:22 am

elina wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:37 am
Dear Anondesires


To me, this all started when I was in my teens. Buying Penthouse magazine to look at the stunning Ladies and reading the Readers stories. I discovered that in most numbers in those days, there was at least one letter that included Female Domination, many of these letters also included the Lady's entitlement to fuck other males. I became pretty obsessed with these letters but I think initially at least I fantasized about being enslaved by a Lady who would train me serve Her in any way She wanted, in particular if there was a female writing they allways described a desire to have their slave willingly and eagerly proving oral service whenever the Lady wanted it.

That's interesting! My first memorable introduction to the concept of cuckolding was reading a penthouse letters story from my dad's stash of magazines. I remember reading a story about a man's wife picking up a man at a bar in Vegas and taking him back to their hotel room. I remember the emotions and feelings it stoked in me and I felt dizzy because of how aroused I was at the idea. And this was in my teen years before I was of the age where relationships were of a serious nature, so I didn't have a serious relationship with a female to cuckold me, but it turned me on like nothing before.

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by SheLikesWhenIWatch » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:34 am

I was a horny 13-year-old when I found my parents’ collection of Penthouse Letters and Variations. I was immediately drawn to the threesome stories. I didn’t care if it was FMF or MFM. Over time, I realized that I preferred the MFM stories because I liked the idea of pleasuring one woman to blissful heights.

There were never creampie eating stories (so far as I can recall). That desire came along much later.

I used to be very much ANTI-creampie eating, but over time it drew me in.

It wasn’t that unusual to watch my wife swallow my or (later) her boyfriend’s cum, so I started rationalizing that “if she can do it, why wouldn’t I?”

The first time it happened, I thought she was just SUPER wet. I didn’t realize she had just been with him a few minutes before. (We were camping. I hadn’t realized they had snuck away for a quickie. She immediately returned to the campsite, stripped her panties off in our tent, forced me onto my back, and sat on my face.) (I just thought she was horny!)

Surprisingly, it wasn’t that bad. He actually tasted pretty good.

Once I realized what happened, that she wasn’t just “super wet” (She told me!), I was good with it. Never a problem since then.
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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by sucker00 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:37 am

Anon,

What you've described as the evolution of your thoughts seems pretty normal to me, based on my experiences. I think this is how the brain essentially works, in that it takes the brain and your psyche to process a general concept such as cuckolding and to get over and rationalize the cultural norms that go against it. Once that happens, then your brain starts to delve into specific concepts and your psyche decides whether those concepts appeal to them or not. I think part of what you've been struggling with, is that maybe some of these concepts you've been contending with appeal to your psyche but the rational part of your brain is telling you that you're not supposed to be drawn to them due to social constructs that you inherently follow. As a carry over from your other thread, I'm curious if your GF has brought up the topic of interracial cuckolding (BBC) again. I recall she tested you on that topic during one of your earlier "sessions".

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by elina » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:01 am

anondesires wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:54 am
elina wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:37 am
I find it interesting that you and Elise Sutton believe that all women are waiting to discover their dominant side. Growing up, girls were only interested in dominant guys, women weren't interested in submissive guys. Even women in cuckolding relationships have their urges to be dominated, probably even more so. So how does it come to be that women end up with submissive guys? For us, I essentially faked dominance for years. Had I been "myself" from the start, she probably wouldn't have been interested. I think it's only because we've built up such a connection that she's been willing to embrace what we're getting into now.
I think that is maybe stretching what I said a little bit. I think the point is more that we all have both submissive and dominant sides and given the right circumstances these can come out or stay hidden. My Wife initially claimed that She was not dominant, but when I followed the principles of Elise Sutton (took several years though) She eventually had me locked up, used to whip my ass with Her riding crop, denied me orgasms and kept me locked up and expressed an interest in cuckolding me. Then She turned around again and wanted us to focus on a normal family life and raise the kids. She definitely was not waiting for this to come out though.

Another statement from Elise Sutton is that males tend to become more submissive with age, whereas Women tend to become more dominant.

On her website there were a lot of readers letters and interviews with Dominant Women. Most of the Fem Dom relationships started with the male wanting to submit to the Lady. The Lady often reluctant at best discovering that there were advantages to Her here; someone is willing to the chores around the house and do what the Lady of the house tell them to do. Once the Lady was in charge, She gradually wanted more and more control, becoming more and more dominant, pushing Her husband to become more and more submissive in order to please the Lady of his dreams.

Another aspect here as just a theory for why Women end up with submissive guys (my guesses, no scientific basis for this) is:
1) When the Ladies are young they are longing for someone to come and seduce them,
someone dominant who will just lift them off the floor and they feel like being taken by.
2) When they grow older and get into the age where they want to have children, they look for
someone who will care for them and the baby, stick around and be a good dad.
I think at this stage many of us who have submissive leanings but still pretend not ot be
is picked by a Lady because She understands that these Don Juans are not reliable, even
if they may be good fucks.

Just my thoughts.

Sincerely
elina

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by Swanilla » Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:49 am

Had HW thoughts for decades. With my previous wife I floaded the idea of adding a third (I didn't specify gender) and she shot it down before I even finished the sentence. My new wife is more open minded but when I suggested it, she said, "Fuck no. Never gonna happen." A week later we were at Desire RM in Cancun (IFKYK) and met a couple. Within a few days, we were swapping in thier room... best vacation I can't tell any family/friends about!
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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by anondesires » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:41 pm

SheLikesWhenIWatch wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:34 am
There were never creampie eating stories (so far as I can recall). That desire came along much later.

I used to be very much ANTI-creampie eating, but over time it drew me in.
So did you just get the urge out of nowhere one day? And the urge got stronger over time?
I think for me, it's such a focus in porn, I used to think it was gross and disregard it. As I realised I was starting to want to be cuckolded, creampie eating became a limit that I never wanted to be into. I think someone else on here said that fixating on these limits makes those things erotic, I think that's what happened for me.
SheLikesWhenIWatch wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:34 am
It wasn’t that unusual to watch my wife swallow my or (later) her boyfriend’s cum, so I started rationalizing that “if she can do it, why wouldn’t I?”
Did you start to ask yourself this after the idea became hot to you?
SheLikesWhenIWatch wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:34 am
The first time it happened, I thought she was just SUPER wet. I didn’t realize she had just been with him a few minutes before. (We were camping. I hadn’t realized they had snuck away for a quickie. She immediately returned to the campsite, stripped her panties off in our tent, forced me onto my back, and sat on my face.) (I just thought she was horny!)

Surprisingly, it wasn’t that bad. He actually tasted pretty good.

Once I realized what happened, that she wasn’t just “super wet” (She told me!), I was good with it. Never a problem since then.
Why did she do that? Did she know you were into the idea?

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by anondesires » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:54 pm

sucker00 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:37 am
Anon,

What you've described as the evolution of your thoughts seems pretty normal to me, based on my experiences. I think this is how the brain essentially works, in that it takes the brain and your psyche to process a general concept such as cuckolding and to get over and rationalize the cultural norms that go against it. Once that happens, then your brain starts to delve into specific concepts and your psyche decides whether those concepts appeal to them or not. I think part of what you've been struggling with, is that maybe some of these concepts you've been contending with appeal to your psyche but the rational part of your brain is telling you that you're not supposed to be drawn to them due to social constructs that you inherently follow.
There's definitely conflict in my brain and the more I decide I don't want something, the hotter it seems to become. I don't know how to deal with that.
sucker00 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:37 am
As a carry over from your other thread, I'm curious if your GF has brought up the topic of interracial cuckolding (BBC) again. I recall she tested you on that topic during one of your earlier "sessions".
Neither of us have mentioned it since. I assume this is something that's hot for you? Has it always been?

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by sucker00 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:48 pm

anondesires wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:54 pm
sucker00 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:37 am
There's definitely conflict in my brain and the more I decide I don't want something, the hotter it seems to become. I don't know how to deal with that.
sucker00 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:37 am

I think the reason something you tell yourself that you don't want to happen becomes hot to you if it did happen, is because of the underlying psychology of sexual kinks. For instance, with cuckolding, he act of sex itself isn't necessarily the single hottest part of the kink (for me), it's the buildup leading to the sex, it's the unfaithfulness and feeling betrayed, it's seeing the one you love betray you for something you can't give her, it's the feeling of not being enough for her, it's seeing her being seduced and you're helpless to stop it, it's the submission of the whole experience, you to her and her to him.... it's all of it. Giving in to all of this is what draws you in like a moth to a flame.
Neither of us have mentioned it since. I assume this is something that's hot for you? Has it always been?
I can't remember a specific moment in time when it was something I first encountered (probably in one of the Penthouse Letters), but yes, it is hot to me, and I've actually experienced it, and it was hot in reality. The difference in race and culture amplifies the sense of me not being able to be the same thing this other guy is to her, and that's hot to me.

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by hubudig2 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:06 am

anondesires wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:54 am
Growing up, girls were only interested in dominant guys, women weren't interested in submissive guys.
I think it's common for girls growing up to have secret/semi-relationships with submissive, usually younger or shy (friend zoned) guys.
They enjoy that guys company, they enjoy the adoration that he gives her, he boosts her confidence and makes her feel good.
She won't show any feelings towards him publicly or commit to a relationship because he isn't "high status" enough but she will use this confidence to attract a guy that is as "high status" as she feels she can.
This status isn't defined by her but by society. People generally want their partner to be considered by other people as equal status to them or slightly higher.
The dominant guys (especially at a young age) usually assert a higher status through confidence, charisma, appearance, reputation etc.
I think with age, it becomes more mixed up, wealth and influence become big factors.
anondesires wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:54 am
Even women in cuckolding relationships have their urges to be dominated, probably even more so. So how does it come to be that women end up with submissive guys?
People usually end up staying with someone of equal status that they are overall happy with, sexual dynamics aren't always high on the list of priorities, especially as sex at the start of a relationship usually feels good anyway. The dynamics tend to get worked out over time.
Also dominant men or women don't usually want the most submissive partner they can find. If anything, it's hot/fun/satisfying to take someone slightly less dominant than themselves and gradually turn them into their sub.
In the case you're talking about a submissive woman may find fun in turning an equally submissive guy into her submissive and discover her dominant side but essentially be a switch with an unsatisfied urge to submit to someone else.
anondesires wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:54 am
For us, I essentially faked dominance for years. Had I been "myself" from the start, she probably wouldn't have been interested. I think it's only because we've built up such a connection that she's been willing to embrace what we're getting into now.
That may be true. Faking it might have got your foot in the door long enough to demonstrate your other qualities.
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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by KevKevKev » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:46 pm

I was watching some porn earlier today that featured chastity, denial, and some light humiliation. I normally do not like this type of thing, but today I thought it was extremely hot. And when I think about it the whole kink has slowly evolved over the years. One year I'm only fantasizing, but scared to say anything to the wife. Another year and we're talking about it. Another year and we're dirty talking it. And so on.

Something else to consider is that it has evolved for my wife. At first she's not interested in it at all, but will dirty talk about it a little bit just to make me happy. Then she's really getting into the dirty talk and getting super wet whenever she talks about it. And just this past weekend she looked at me dead in the eyes and very seriously told me that she wants to find someone else to fuck. I asked her to say it again and then I came.

I figure it's just like anything else sexually. At first it doesn't take much to get you hard and make you cum and then it takes more and more. It's also that with enough time this stuff becomes the new normal, and I think that's why it takes some of the wives a while to come around and want to get into it. They've thought and talked about it enough that it's normal.

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Re: Fantasy evolution over time

Unread post by SheLikesWhenIWatch » Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:06 pm

anondesires wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:41 pm
SheLikesWhenIWatch wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:34 am
There were never creampie eating stories (so far as I can recall). That desire came along much later.

I used to be very much ANTI-creampie eating, but over time it drew me in.
So did you just get the urge out of nowhere one day? And the urge got stronger over time?
I think for me, it's such a focus in porn, I used to think it was gross and disregard it. As I realised I was starting to want to be cuckolded, creampie eating became a limit that I never wanted to be into. I think someone else on here said that fixating on these limits makes those things erotic, I think that's what happened for me.
Yes. I definitely think there’s something to be said for fixation. I disregarded it like you’re saying. I consider myself hetero, and the concept of gobbling down some other guy’s jizz was just a step too far for me. But as I realized I wanted her to cuck me, I started thinking about how I could be brought more deeply under the cuck umbrella. I wasn’t (and I’m still not) ready to blow her boyfriend (IF he ever would have let me) or have him peg me. But one thing I gradually became comfortable with was eating her pussy, even if it had a little cum in it. Here, on OHW, there seems to be a celebration for cucks who perform clean-up duty. It’s like they’ve fully committed to cuckoldry…not necessarily swinging or hotwifing (although I now know there are creampie eaters among those folks as well). Countless stories where the cuck cleans up and everyone is happy. I really started to question my fear of something that was “gay” in my mind.
anondesires wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:41 pm
SheLikesWhenIWatch wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:34 am
It wasn’t that unusual to watch my wife swallow my or (later) her boyfriend’s cum, so I started rationalizing that “if she can do it, why wouldn’t I?”
Did you start to ask yourself this after the idea became hot to you?
And, continuing my narrative from above, that’s when I started rationalizing that if she and millions of women all over the world take a load direct from the spigot in the mouth, many of whom swallow (my wife occasionally included), what was to be feared? I mean, more than half but less than all of the population of the world’s sexually active women take a shot in the mouth. Some gulp. Many/most spit. If that many people take a load in the mouth, what am I really afraid of?

And this feeling happened to coincide with a new understanding:
Being gay is not something you do. It’s something you are!

So, since creampie eating was something I felt I could reconcile in my own psychological make-up, I felt I wanted to give it a try. I’m not gay, but I could easily see myself gobbling a little cum if it meant my wife would be happier.
anondesires wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:41 pm
SheLikesWhenIWatch wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:34 am
The first time it happened, I thought she was just SUPER wet. I didn’t realize she had just been with him a few minutes before. (We were camping. I hadn’t realized they had snuck away for a quickie. She immediately returned to the campsite, stripped her panties off in our tent, forced me onto my back, and sat on my face.) (I just thought she was horny!)

Surprisingly, it wasn’t that bad. He actually tasted pretty good.

Once I realized what happened, that she wasn’t just “super wet” (She told me!), I was good with it. Never a problem since then.
Why did she do that? Did she know you were into the idea?
So…I told her that this was something I wanted to try.

She was very receptive, but she worried that her boyfriend would freak out. (Very sensitive to homosexual stuff. What a shame that he thought of it that way!) So it was slow-going at first.

We (the family) would routinely go tent camping, and he would join us. Maria would often slip away in the middle of the night to go hop into his sleeping bag with him.

This particular time, I hadn’t heard her leave. (We were next to a loud river.). Our tent is a MASSIVE family tent. The kids sleep on one side; she and I sleep on the other side. There a divider that separates us from the kids. So when she came barreling back into the tent in the wee hours of sunrise, I was surprised. I was already laying down, but I propped myself up on my elbow…..and that’s when she just pushed me back and sat on my face.

It was a fresh creampie, I now know, but at the time, I hadn’t realized she snuck away. I thought she had been next to me the whole night. I thought she was just super-horny. I lapped up EVERYTHING thinking that this was going to be a great lay. She was SUPER-WET. I kept licking, and she even came a little mini-orgasm. (I think she was turned on that she had me cucked in that moment.)

When that was over, I rolled her onto her back and fucked her well. I don’t think I lasted more than two dozen pumps.

And, when all of that was over (the kids still sound asleep), she asked how I liked that. She realized by my response that I had no idea she snuck away for a quickie. So she told me….and the gravity of that moment hit me like a ton of bricks. “I just gobbled his cum down?” And, surprisingly, it didn’t taste bad at all.

This would become very normal on all future camping trips. Her boyfriend put two and two together at some point. We thought he’d freak out, but he was actually okay with it. (I think he rather enjoyed cucking me!) This eventually led to me performing clean-up duty in the bedroom, almost immediately after he put a load in her.

I’ve never drank from the spigot, and I don’t intend to anytime soon.

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