Phew! Hot writing Don. I start to get pissed off, then you always chill me down again. Nicely done.
I'm grateful for you allowing us to enjoy your escapades.
Is This the Real Life?
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OOAA
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AMAZING story!!!!!!!
In dom&sub area, but managed in a fantastic way! Congratulations
In dom&sub area, but managed in a fantastic way! Congratulations
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Don
has Dave ever had a halloween party that you and L. have gone to if so could
you tell us about it.
look forward to your next update.
has Dave ever had a halloween party that you and L. have gone to if so could
you tell us about it.
look forward to your next update.
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Wow great real life stories. Your living in a real fantasy.
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Love your writing Don. Looking forward to more.
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No important news lately. L and I have both been traveling for work, so sex has taken a back seat to finishing year-end projects. Thanks to everyone for your comments - I'll update this thread when I have news.
dana007: I do happen to have an old Halloween-related post from back in our long past with Dave. Wasn't sure I could still find it, but I have. Seems like a lifetime ago - we were such newbies, and I was so drenched in angst. I'll post it in the Library - "Twice Bitten".
Don
dana007: I do happen to have an old Halloween-related post from back in our long past with Dave. Wasn't sure I could still find it, but I have. Seems like a lifetime ago - we were such newbies, and I was so drenched in angst. I'll post it in the Library - "Twice Bitten".
Don
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Don
Thank's for the update look forward to any new's you may have.
keep us posted.
Thank's for the update look forward to any new's you may have.
keep us posted.
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Hi Don
Love your story and the skilled way in which you tell it. But have to say this one left me disturbed and worried for you as to where it goes. Having read almost all your posts, it seems pretty clear that the weekend involving Stephen marked a significant change in the game, one that takes it into new and very dark territory.
Stephen joining the game and pushing the boundaries without bothering to get to know you first, smacks of his participation being all about him, and having nothing to do with you and your fantasy beyond using it for his own agenda with L. The way Stephen is written, he comes across as a totally arrogant prick with a real fuck you attitude as to what your feelings and concerns are. Do you really think pursuing a relationship with him is wise?
Even Dave comes across as different in this one. Giving L to someone you don’t know; someone who takes L away for several days to a place where you cannot watch; someone who pushes boundaries before he’s made any effort to get to know you, does not seem to be particularly caring on Dave’s part. From what is written, it appears you have two men who want to guide L in living out her (not your) fantasies, both of whom see themselves as establishing emotional relationships with L because they need her. Given the increasing focus Dave has on delivering L’s fantasies are you worried that he might be increasingly less concerned about what you want?
His declaration that L is not your wife when with him, and any agreements you have with her count for nothing because she is making different agreements with him that they don't share with you, seems very dismissive and disrespectful. Particularly coming on the weekend he gives L to Stephen. Given that it increasingly sounds like your wants and needs are secondary to whatever Dave and Stephen are planning, at what point, regardless of your long relationship, would you consider re-evaluating what Dave wants to get out of all this?
Dave’s comment that, “We don’t want to take her from you, Don - well, not completely,” comes across as disturbingly arrogant and dismissive. If the words you have Dave speaking are correct, then he is in effect saying that they do want to take L from you, at least party, just not completely (whatever that means). Does that bother you? Is he really a friend of yours at all if he thinks that way?
Also, all the talk of Dave and Stephen owning pieces of L that you do not share. Are you worried that the pieces of L that Dave and Stephen own are growing, or that L seems reluctant to talk about what they are? What happens as the pieces they own keep growing and multiplying? How will you know when the point at which they own more of her than you do is approaching if L is reluctant to talk about it, or share what she is doing with them?
Much seems to have changed in your story line, with L seeming increasingly happy to see you humiliated; talking about wanting both of you to be owned by Stephen, who neither of you really know at all; and the impact of the weekend lasting much longer than before and overflowing into the 98% normal life you two share.
I guess the question is: How do you know when it’s gone too far, before it actually does?
Love your story and the skilled way in which you tell it. But have to say this one left me disturbed and worried for you as to where it goes. Having read almost all your posts, it seems pretty clear that the weekend involving Stephen marked a significant change in the game, one that takes it into new and very dark territory.
Stephen joining the game and pushing the boundaries without bothering to get to know you first, smacks of his participation being all about him, and having nothing to do with you and your fantasy beyond using it for his own agenda with L. The way Stephen is written, he comes across as a totally arrogant prick with a real fuck you attitude as to what your feelings and concerns are. Do you really think pursuing a relationship with him is wise?
Even Dave comes across as different in this one. Giving L to someone you don’t know; someone who takes L away for several days to a place where you cannot watch; someone who pushes boundaries before he’s made any effort to get to know you, does not seem to be particularly caring on Dave’s part. From what is written, it appears you have two men who want to guide L in living out her (not your) fantasies, both of whom see themselves as establishing emotional relationships with L because they need her. Given the increasing focus Dave has on delivering L’s fantasies are you worried that he might be increasingly less concerned about what you want?
His declaration that L is not your wife when with him, and any agreements you have with her count for nothing because she is making different agreements with him that they don't share with you, seems very dismissive and disrespectful. Particularly coming on the weekend he gives L to Stephen. Given that it increasingly sounds like your wants and needs are secondary to whatever Dave and Stephen are planning, at what point, regardless of your long relationship, would you consider re-evaluating what Dave wants to get out of all this?
Dave’s comment that, “We don’t want to take her from you, Don - well, not completely,” comes across as disturbingly arrogant and dismissive. If the words you have Dave speaking are correct, then he is in effect saying that they do want to take L from you, at least party, just not completely (whatever that means). Does that bother you? Is he really a friend of yours at all if he thinks that way?
Also, all the talk of Dave and Stephen owning pieces of L that you do not share. Are you worried that the pieces of L that Dave and Stephen own are growing, or that L seems reluctant to talk about what they are? What happens as the pieces they own keep growing and multiplying? How will you know when the point at which they own more of her than you do is approaching if L is reluctant to talk about it, or share what she is doing with them?
Much seems to have changed in your story line, with L seeming increasingly happy to see you humiliated; talking about wanting both of you to be owned by Stephen, who neither of you really know at all; and the impact of the weekend lasting much longer than before and overflowing into the 98% normal life you two share.
I guess the question is: How do you know when it’s gone too far, before it actually does?
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First, thanks for your concern, Asterix42. I'll try to make things a bit clearer.
These visits are like vacations for us. They're an outlet after long periods of stress and work that tend to put sex on the back burner. They are, at their core, role playing. After many years, the expected gets routine, and we long for Dave to invent new and challenging games when we visit. My writing is often almost stream of consciousness, the raw underbelly of what I'm going through as the game goes on. I need an outlet for the angst, but it's angst that excites me. I don't pretend to understand why - it just does.
L and I have found we have developed a need for control when we're extremely horny. L's desires have increased over the years, and mine were often tied to mild humiliation back when we started. These days, our needs fit together like puzzle pieces. She wants to be owned in the games, and she knows I get off on that, so she plays to it in front of me. In fact, she knows how the drama "gets to me" - something that both worries and excites me - and she's become bolder at letting me have that - in fact, she says she gets a strange kick from it. All that plays right into my fantasies of the Alpha Male "taking" her, at least for the duration of the game. We're both getting what we want, even though it might seem worrisome to an outsider. She knows what I want, and she gets off including it in her part of the game.
Dave's stern manner comes across as just that, in fact even as brutally unfeeling at times, but it's part of pushing us. We all know it's a game, and after it concludes, we don't hold him responsible for the exact words he uses. In fact, he's always checking, always taking L and me aside separately for our take on whether the game has outstretched our acceptable boundaries. He's almost too careful at times, because for me, it interrupts the flow of the game needlessly. But I still appreciate his concern. He really is out mentor, and although he's pushed us into uncomfortable places at times, we trust him implicitly. He may be fucking L like her owner, but he cares deeply for her, and for our marriage.
Stephen is another matter. We don't know him, and we've had no contact since our visit. My impression is that he's an actor in the game with some experience with BDSM and other men's wives. He's an artificial boundary set up by Dave to test our true limits. He has had some lasting influence on L, but not enough to keep me out of her thoughts and fantasies lately. The "idea" of such a strict owner played to her submissive needs, but she's admitted she wouldn't want to abandon me for him or a reality version of the game. I like the idea of someone like Stephen "owning" her, but it's an idea, a fantasy, not reality. The days without L when she was with him weren't fun for me. The angst led slowly to concern, then to missing being with her, even when it was in Dave's house where she's naked and available for him constantly. I need her with me, even when she's giving her body to another man. I love watching her seduce him, "promise" her body to him in subtle ways, and even tease me while it's happening. Stephen was an arrogant prick, but so was his character in the book and movie. L has always had a thing for the "boyfriend experience" in her favorite hotwife relationships, and she's assured me Stephen doesn't come close to what she wants in her steady diet of men.
Do I worry about Dave or Stephen taking a "part of her" from me? It's really a matter of degree. In a way, Dave has already done that. A part of what excites her sexually, something Dave has shown her, is something I can't give her. I can't be her Dom. It just doesn't work for her. Dave (along with hotwifing) has changed her. There are little things, like wearing the stilettos, or showing off her body publicly in revealing clothes, that she would have never done for me in our past routine marriage. L was never a fan of blowjobs, but now does so willingly, even greedily - swallowing Dave's semen (and mine) like she had never done in the past. I've accepted that there is something exotic about a wife doing once "taboo" things for someone other than her husband. L talks about it all the time. The look and feel of another man's erection, first in her hands, then inside her. The way a new man's body feels on top of her in bed, and the way he fucks her. I can't give her any of that - it's a piece of her I've given to other men, or maybe a piece I never really had to lose. But getting over the purely physical is not so hard when the emotional bond is still strong and vibrant. That's what keeps us together and in love.
I hope that answers a few questions. But it's so complicated - even more so when you only read about it rather than experience it firsthand. It's the familiar quest of digging into the psyche of hotwifing or cuckolding. Fantasies, erotic triggers, reaction to the unexpected, angst, humiliation, domination - everyone is unique and the fantasies highly personal. It's infinitely complex, but L and I are fine. Stephan is just a memory. Dave is still the future.
Don
These visits are like vacations for us. They're an outlet after long periods of stress and work that tend to put sex on the back burner. They are, at their core, role playing. After many years, the expected gets routine, and we long for Dave to invent new and challenging games when we visit. My writing is often almost stream of consciousness, the raw underbelly of what I'm going through as the game goes on. I need an outlet for the angst, but it's angst that excites me. I don't pretend to understand why - it just does.
L and I have found we have developed a need for control when we're extremely horny. L's desires have increased over the years, and mine were often tied to mild humiliation back when we started. These days, our needs fit together like puzzle pieces. She wants to be owned in the games, and she knows I get off on that, so she plays to it in front of me. In fact, she knows how the drama "gets to me" - something that both worries and excites me - and she's become bolder at letting me have that - in fact, she says she gets a strange kick from it. All that plays right into my fantasies of the Alpha Male "taking" her, at least for the duration of the game. We're both getting what we want, even though it might seem worrisome to an outsider. She knows what I want, and she gets off including it in her part of the game.
Dave's stern manner comes across as just that, in fact even as brutally unfeeling at times, but it's part of pushing us. We all know it's a game, and after it concludes, we don't hold him responsible for the exact words he uses. In fact, he's always checking, always taking L and me aside separately for our take on whether the game has outstretched our acceptable boundaries. He's almost too careful at times, because for me, it interrupts the flow of the game needlessly. But I still appreciate his concern. He really is out mentor, and although he's pushed us into uncomfortable places at times, we trust him implicitly. He may be fucking L like her owner, but he cares deeply for her, and for our marriage.
Stephen is another matter. We don't know him, and we've had no contact since our visit. My impression is that he's an actor in the game with some experience with BDSM and other men's wives. He's an artificial boundary set up by Dave to test our true limits. He has had some lasting influence on L, but not enough to keep me out of her thoughts and fantasies lately. The "idea" of such a strict owner played to her submissive needs, but she's admitted she wouldn't want to abandon me for him or a reality version of the game. I like the idea of someone like Stephen "owning" her, but it's an idea, a fantasy, not reality. The days without L when she was with him weren't fun for me. The angst led slowly to concern, then to missing being with her, even when it was in Dave's house where she's naked and available for him constantly. I need her with me, even when she's giving her body to another man. I love watching her seduce him, "promise" her body to him in subtle ways, and even tease me while it's happening. Stephen was an arrogant prick, but so was his character in the book and movie. L has always had a thing for the "boyfriend experience" in her favorite hotwife relationships, and she's assured me Stephen doesn't come close to what she wants in her steady diet of men.
Do I worry about Dave or Stephen taking a "part of her" from me? It's really a matter of degree. In a way, Dave has already done that. A part of what excites her sexually, something Dave has shown her, is something I can't give her. I can't be her Dom. It just doesn't work for her. Dave (along with hotwifing) has changed her. There are little things, like wearing the stilettos, or showing off her body publicly in revealing clothes, that she would have never done for me in our past routine marriage. L was never a fan of blowjobs, but now does so willingly, even greedily - swallowing Dave's semen (and mine) like she had never done in the past. I've accepted that there is something exotic about a wife doing once "taboo" things for someone other than her husband. L talks about it all the time. The look and feel of another man's erection, first in her hands, then inside her. The way a new man's body feels on top of her in bed, and the way he fucks her. I can't give her any of that - it's a piece of her I've given to other men, or maybe a piece I never really had to lose. But getting over the purely physical is not so hard when the emotional bond is still strong and vibrant. That's what keeps us together and in love.
I hope that answers a few questions. But it's so complicated - even more so when you only read about it rather than experience it firsthand. It's the familiar quest of digging into the psyche of hotwifing or cuckolding. Fantasies, erotic triggers, reaction to the unexpected, angst, humiliation, domination - everyone is unique and the fantasies highly personal. It's infinitely complex, but L and I are fine. Stephan is just a memory. Dave is still the future.
Don
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You're my hero. (L is my dream).
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Don Jetman
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Thanks, old friend, but I don't feel like a hero. L is the hero - and MY dream too! I am very, very lucky to be with her.
Don
Don
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It's how you dig that sets you apart from the crowd Don. Too many writers here dig into it as if using a backhoe. You dig carefully and deliberately, like an archeologist uncovering and then examining a precious fragile truth.I hope that answers a few questions. But it's so complicated - even more so when you only read about it rather than experience it firsthand. It's the familiar quest of digging into the psyche of hotwifing or cuckolding. Fantasies, erotic triggers, reaction to the unexpected, angst, humiliation, domination - everyone is unique and the fantasies highly personal. It's infinitely complex, but L and I are fine. Stephan is just a memory. Dave is still the future.
-Suchen
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Don I think Wittol is correctDon Jetman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:31 pmThanks, old friend, but I don't feel like a hero. L is the hero - and MY dream too! I am very, very lucky to be with her.
Don
I am only now getting into your terrific work and with time I have available it could take a year or two to catch up but I felt you deserve some recognition now. L is an attractive smart and lovely hotwife but the risks you take, to please her and allow her to explore her considerable sexual potential, are mind blowing. Its nice that you experience so much compersion in what you do.
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Thanks for that Don. Appreciate the clarity. Have to admit that I find your post story comments and answers to be as enjoyable and interesting as the stories themselves.Don Jetman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:49 pmI hope that answers a few questions. But it's so complicated - even more so when you only read about it rather than experience it firsthand. It's the familiar quest of digging into the psyche of hotwifing or cuckolding. Fantasies, erotic triggers, reaction to the unexpected, angst, humiliation, domination - everyone is unique and the fantasies highly personal. It's infinitely complex, but L and I are fine. Stephan is just a memory. Dave is still the future.
Love your sharing so openly with us all.
Again, thank you.
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I love reading your stories, very intense and erotic.
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Don sees into the heart of being a cuckold. I think he has an excellent grip on his feeling and fears and he communicates that better than just about any writer on cucks and hotwives has. He expresses his deepest fears and angst so well that it triggers a lot of readers own fears and angst.My wife is addicted to his stories! If I tell her "Don has a new story in the library!" that means I'm getting laid in a few minutes! I think she fantasizes that she is L being owned by Dave, tied and at mercy Stephen, put on displayed at one of Dave's parties. God knows he seems to understand what drives me in all this better than I do.
He's that good.
Best wishes Don, always,
Sutter
He's that good.
Best wishes Don, always,
Sutter
"Women and cats will do as they please,and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea"-Robert Heinlein
"Gratitude is riches and complaint is poverty and the worst I ever had was wonderful"Bro. Dave Gardner
Dum Vivimus, Vivamus!
"Gratitude is riches and complaint is poverty and the worst I ever had was wonderful"Bro. Dave Gardner
Dum Vivimus, Vivamus!
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Sorry for the delay in responding, everyone. Work and travel are crazy these days.
I'm very flattered that you enjoy the writing, and that you identify with our experiences. I really enjoy the comments and especially the questions about my posts - I find I keep learning a bit more about myself with each answer to your replies. Recounting our experiences is a way to record the memories and an exercise in introspection, but having a chance to respond to others' curiosities always enhances my understanding in surprising ways. Kind of like spending time on the couch with a shrink, I guess. After all these years, I still don't pretend to understand what drives me to enjoy sharing L, even to the point of seeing her "taken" from me sexually by an Alpha male. I'm beginning to think L now understands wanting to be "taken" more than I do seeing it. In any event, it works for us when we need it. And the sex between us in the interludes between adventures has never been better.
Thanks again to all for your generous replies.
Don
I'm very flattered that you enjoy the writing, and that you identify with our experiences. I really enjoy the comments and especially the questions about my posts - I find I keep learning a bit more about myself with each answer to your replies. Recounting our experiences is a way to record the memories and an exercise in introspection, but having a chance to respond to others' curiosities always enhances my understanding in surprising ways. Kind of like spending time on the couch with a shrink, I guess. After all these years, I still don't pretend to understand what drives me to enjoy sharing L, even to the point of seeing her "taken" from me sexually by an Alpha male. I'm beginning to think L now understands wanting to be "taken" more than I do seeing it. In any event, it works for us when we need it. And the sex between us in the interludes between adventures has never been better.
Thanks again to all for your generous replies.
Don
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Don
thank you for posting the fun that you and L. are having togather and looking forward to any up date"s.
on you and L. going ,back to see Dave and or Steven.
keep us posted.
and if i have any questions i will ask you.
and thank you again.
Dana
thank you for posting the fun that you and L. are having togather and looking forward to any up date"s.
on you and L. going ,back to see Dave and or Steven.
keep us posted.
and if i have any questions i will ask you.
and thank you again.
Dana