xleglover - I want to give everyone an update

[couple20uk]

Yesterday, I purchased my Kindle copy of "Be Careful What You Wish For - Book 2 after a quick search from Amazon UK.
There were no issues. I am very interested to see where this modified story goes.

[Dream Weaver]

Hi xleglover, is it possible sales suck because I can only find the kindle version of book 1 & 2 on Amazon.com and not in other countries? I looked on Amazon.co.uk multiple times but can’t find it.

Mmm... I'm doing this from memory... I think the problem was, Book 1 (I bought it) had like, zero sex really. Then I bought book 2 and it was more of the same so I never finished it. I mean, I might be wrong, but if it was there, it wasn't button pushing or memorable. But it was a different angle to the subject. Still, at the end of the day we want a stroke book. That being said, don't stop doing your think XLeg, I love your stuff and you have a high batting average.

[kaskap79]

Hi xleglover, is it possible sales suck because I can only find the kindle version of book 1 & 2 on Amazon.com and not in other countries? I looked on Amazon.co.uk multiple times but can’t find it.

Mmm... I'm doing this from memory... I think the problem was, Book 1 (I bought it) had like, zero sex really. Then I bought book 2 and it was more of the same so I never finished it. I mean, I might be wrong, but if it was there, it wasn't button pushing or memorable. But it was a different angle to the subject. Still, at the end of the day we want a stroke book. That being said, don't stop doing your think XLeg, I love your stuff and you have a high batting average.

I can see all 3 in Denmark.

[Guhunkadorn]

Loved BCWYWF #2...you've upped the bar on yourself....look forward to next book.

Plenty of good reading now between your Kindle releases and other fine stories in this 'Library'.

[xleglover]

Hi all - Just wanted to let you know that Book 3 of Be Careful What You Wish For is out. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D2PPK86F

The book will be available on Smashwords and other sites in a few days.

Thanks for your support! Cheers - xleglover

[DavidSilver]

Hi all - Just wanted to let you know that Book 3 of Be Careful What You Wish For is out. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D2PPK86F

The book will be available on Smashwords and other sites in a few days.

Thanks for your support! Cheers - xleglover

Does book 3 have new story parts, or is it still the formerly published story parts? I plan to read it from the beginning, but I hold out till there is something new at the end waiting for me.

[octohamilton]

Hi all - Just wanted to let you know that Book 3 of Be Careful What You Wish For is out. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D2PPK86F

The book will be available on Smashwords and other sites in a few days.

Thanks for your support! Cheers - xleglover

Does book 3 have new story parts, or is it still the formerly published story parts? I plan to read it from the beginning, but I hold out till there is something new at the end waiting for me.

Nothing new at the end, doesn’t quite catch up to where the original postings finished.
[spoilers… I guess]
Part 3 ends when Greg and Jen (now Zoey) land in whatever state it was for the Greg’s friend’s weekend wedding and they have an extended day of Fucking before going to the rehearsal dinner. There are an added scenes of Mike’s (Hudson now) boss being a cuckquean and humiliated by her husband, and how that affects her treatment of Mike. As well as possibly a bit more with Allie (or whatever her name is in this version) I don’t remember if she was as prominent in the original upload here.
The pay off of these new/expanded plot threads will hopefully be good, but to be honest, for the time being at least, I definitely found them to be more of a distraction from the Mike, Jen, Greg (A) plot, which is by its nature the strongest and most *engaging* part of the book -and I imagine that would hold true for most users of this particular site.

[HoneyLemon77]

Okay, I'm a bit confused now. I remember Joey as the Starbucks barista in the Literotica stories (Cheating & Rivals, I think) and Joe was Mike's older brother who later got cancer and died. But I'm going from memory because I can't find any of those stories on Literotica. I could very well be wrong, though.

Joey had cancer in Faithful Wife, too, but beat it. He went to college/university in New York in the later chapters. But that stuff may have been cut from the Kindle version, if it's now finished.

Just to add: Faithful Wife wasn't published on Literotica.

Joe was Mike's younger brother in "Conequencies" published on Literotica. He had cancer and had to seek treatment in NYC from a "faith healer". In Chapters 22 & 23 he stays with Jen and MIke and eventually they fuck. Their last encounter was bareback and it was around this time she discovers she is pregnant (by Drums) just as Mike is taken away.

The Faith Healer (Willow) reappears as the sister of the lady (Miranda) who pierces Jen's nipples on a trip to Caribbean with Frank in "Cheating and Rivals".

Ahh, okay, my memory isn't good at all! My apologies if I've confused anyone! I remember Willow now. It's starting to come back to me. Didn't Joe fuck Jen while she was sleeping pretending to be Mike? Not sure if that was from "Consequences" or "Cheating & Rivals".

But in Literotica, wasn't there a young barista named Joey that Jen fucked? He called her "No Whip Jen" and squirted whipped cream on her wedding ring.
I seem to remember that being in "Life After We". But I may be thinking of a completely different author/story. I think it was from Literotica, though. I read too many of these stories!

Anyways, I love talking about my favorites Mike & Jen!
Thanks!

Hey Dave, I think you're correct about barista Joey. I believe Jen fucked barista Joey when he took her to a frat party. Joey took pictures that he promised Jen he would delete but his iphone backed up to the cloud. Jen took Joey back to her apartment and fucked him again with Mike watching? Not sure about that but after Joey left Jen asked Mike to hack into Joey's phone and delete the pictures from earlier, which Mike did.

[Curious450]

Thank you Xleglover! Love all of your books, and cannot wait for the next installment of Be Careful What You Wish For. I do hope sometime you will continue Faithful Wife's Fall From Grace.

Thank you!!!!

[DaveMartens34]

Joey had cancer in Faithful Wife, too, but beat it. He went to college/university in New York in the later chapters. But that stuff may have been cut from the Kindle version, if it's now finished.

Just to add: Faithful Wife wasn't published on Literotica.

Joe was Mike's younger brother in "Conequencies" published on Literotica. He had cancer and had to seek treatment in NYC from a "faith healer". In Chapters 22 & 23 he stays with Jen and MIke and eventually they fuck. Their last encounter was bareback and it was around this time she discovers she is pregnant (by Drums) just as Mike is taken away.

The Faith Healer (Willow) reappears as the sister of the lady (Miranda) who pierces Jen's nipples on a trip to Caribbean with Frank in "Cheating and Rivals".

Ahh, okay, my memory isn't good at all! My apologies if I've confused anyone! I remember Willow now. It's starting to come back to me. Didn't Joe fuck Jen while she was sleeping pretending to be Mike? Not sure if that was from "Consequences" or "Cheating & Rivals".

But in Literotica, wasn't there a young barista named Joey that Jen fucked? He called her "No Whip Jen" and squirted whipped cream on her wedding ring.
I seem to remember that being in "Life After We". But I may be thinking of a completely different author/story. I think it was from Literotica, though. I read too many of these stories!

Anyways, I love talking about my favorites Mike & Jen!
Thanks!

Hey Dave, I think you're correct about barista Joey. I believe Jen fucked barista Joey when he took her to a frat party. Joey took pictures that he promised Jen he would delete but his iphone backed up to the cloud. Jen took Joey back to her apartment and fucked him again with Mike watching? Not sure about that but after Joey left Jen asked Mike to hack into Joey's phone and delete the pictures from earlier, which Mike did.

Hi Lemon! I wish there were more people who still wanted to talk about xleglovers earlier stuff. It's understandable, though. I guess it's hard to find anymore. The Mike & Jen series is amazing writing! I've read the "Faithful Wife's Fall from Grace" 8 book series and enjoyed it. I know the main character's were Mike and Jen, but they seemed a bit different than the Literotica Mike and Jen.

I'd love to see Pete (xleglover) pick up from when Mike & Jen and Anna arrive in the Canary Islands. That would be epic! Not sure I liked near the end of "Cheating & Rivals" in one of the epilogues, when Frank asks Jen if he can visit them to check on Anna's recuperation and Jen says she'd like that. I hope this doesn't mean Jen is going to get involved with Frank again. I know she wanted to see Frank 2-3 times a year, but I really hate Frank for scheming to get Mike arrested by CATF again and held for months just so he could have Jen all to himself. What a scumbag Frank is.

I remember Jen telling him, "I want to be your friend. But that part of our relationship is over." I hope she sticks to that but we know how Jen gets when she gets her "cum face" on.

[xian2014]

Joe was Mike's younger brother in "Conequencies" published on Literotica. He had cancer and had to seek treatment in NYC from a "faith healer". In Chapters 22 & 23 he stays with Jen and MIke and eventually they fuck. Their last encounter was bareback and it was around this time she discovers she is pregnant (by Drums) just as Mike is taken away.

The Faith Healer (Willow) reappears as the sister of the lady (Miranda) who pierces Jen's nipples on a trip to Caribbean with Frank in "Cheating and Rivals".

Ahh, okay, my memory isn't good at all! My apologies if I've confused anyone! I remember Willow now. It's starting to come back to me. Didn't Joe fuck Jen while she was sleeping pretending to be Mike? Not sure if that was from "Consequences" or "Cheating & Rivals".

But in Literotica, wasn't there a young barista named Joey that Jen fucked? He called her "No Whip Jen" and squirted whipped cream on her wedding ring.
I seem to remember that being in "Life After We". But I may be thinking of a completely different author/story. I think it was from Literotica, though. I read too many of these stories!

Anyways, I love talking about my favorites Mike & Jen!
Thanks!

Hey Dave, I think you're correct about barista Joey. I believe Jen fucked barista Joey when he took her to a frat party. Joey took pictures that he promised Jen he would delete but his iphone backed up to the cloud. Jen took Joey back to her apartment and fucked him again with Mike watching? Not sure about that but after Joey left Jen asked Mike to hack into Joey's phone and delete the pictures from earlier, which Mike did.

Hi Lemon! I wish there were more people who still wanted to talk about xleglovers earlier stuff. It's understandable, though. I guess it's hard to find anymore. The Mike & Jen series is amazing writing! I've read the "Faithful Wife's Fall from Grace" 8 book series and enjoyed it. I know the main character's were Mike and Jen, but they seemed a bit different than the Literotica Mike and Jen.

I'd love to see Pete (xleglover) pick up from when Mike & Jen and Anna arrive in the Canary Islands. That would be epic! Not sure I liked near the end of "Cheating & Rivals" in one of the epilogues, when Frank asks Jen if he can visit them to check on Anna's recuperation and Jen says she'd like that. I hope this doesn't mean Jen is going to get involved with Frank again. I know she wanted to see Frank 2-3 times a year, but I really hate Frank for scheming to get Mike arrested by CATF again and held for months just so he could have Jen all to himself. What a scumbag Frank is.

I remember Jen telling him, "I want to be your friend. But that part of our relationship is over." I hope she sticks to that but we know how Jen gets when she gets her "cum face" on.

I do to miss the lively debates of the Jen and Mike series, Xleglover was really great at bringing a connection to the characters and I loved how the stories were more involved beyond just a cuckold story. The only Jen and Mike story I really hated was the sequel to Faithfull wife Fall from Grace I'm glad that was set in an alternate universe. There are alot of character criticisms I could go into about the characters but my overall experience with the saga was outstanding and I read through the whole saga more then once and to be honest I cant find a more well put together story then the Jen and Mike saga, and I have searched I have read some or least tried but done have even come close to the connection I felt for Jen and Mike as much as I wanted Mike to kick Jen to the curb more times then I could count I couldnt help but route for them to be together. Well that is just some of my thoughts on the Jen and Mike stories, I will admit though I really liked his Opening Pandora Box that was a good story.

[DarrenZ]

Hi Lemon! I wish there were more people who still wanted to talk about xleglovers earlier stuff. It's understandable, though. I guess it's hard to find anymore. The Mike & Jen series is amazing writing! I've read the "Faithful Wife's Fall from Grace" 8 book series and enjoyed it. I know the main character's were Mike and Jen, but they seemed a bit different than the Literotica Mike and Jen.

I'd love to see Pete (xleglover) pick up from when Mike & Jen and Anna arrive in the Canary Islands. That would be epic! Not sure I liked near the end of "Cheating & Rivals" in one of the epilogues, when Frank asks Jen if he can visit them to check on Anna's recuperation and Jen says she'd like that. I hope this doesn't mean Jen is going to get involved with Frank again. I know she wanted to see Frank 2-3 times a year, but I really hate Frank for scheming to get Mike arrested by CATF again and held for months just so he could have Jen all to himself. What a scumbag Frank is.

I remember Jen telling him, "I want to be your friend. But that part of our relationship is over." I hope she sticks to that but we know how Jen gets when she gets her "cum face" on.

There are multiple Mike and Jen stories.
Alpha (began with He Fucked My Wife and ended with Consequences and rivals) [this is the one that ended on Canary Islands]
Faithful Wife Falls from Grace
Tiny Dancer
Be careful what you wish for

Several of these stories have their main characters renamed and alterations in storyline from original.

[Guhunkadorn]

Wasn't 'Life After We' the conclusion to 'Consequences'?....which in turn picked up from the end of another story....it's been a few years so memory a bit shaky. But I seem to remember 'Life After We' being my favorite Xeg. story of all time in so far as it was part of a much larger overall Mike/Jen saga.

[DarrenZ]

You’re right. I confused the titles of two chapters.

Alpha goes:

1. ⁠He Fucked My Girl
2. ⁠All In My Head
3. ⁠Making It Work
4. ⁠Consequences
5. ⁠Life After We
6. ⁠Cheating and Rivals

[Crusty1969]

DaveMartens34 wrote: ↑
Hi Lemon! I wish there were more people who still wanted to talk about xleglovers earlier stuff. It's understandable, though. I guess it's hard to find anymore. The Mike & Jen series is amazing writing! I've read the "Faithful Wife's Fall from Grace" 8 book series and enjoyed it. I know the main character's were Mike and Jen, but they seemed a bit different than the Literotica Mike and Jen.

I'd love to see Pete (xleglover) pick up from when Mike & Jen and Anna arrive in the Canary Islands. That would be epic! Not sure I liked near the end of "Cheating & Rivals" in one of the epilogues, when Frank asks Jen if he can visit them to check on Anna's recuperation and Jen says she'd like that. I hope this doesn't mean Jen is going to get involved with Frank again. I know she wanted to see Frank 2-3 times a year, but I really hate Frank for scheming to get Mike arrested by CATF again and held for months just so he could have Jen all to himself. What a scumbag Frank is.

I remember Jen telling him, "I want to be your friend. But that part of our relationship is over." I hope she sticks to that but we know how Jen gets when she gets her "cum face" on.
DaveMartens34 wrote: ↑
Hi Lemon! I wish there were more people who still wanted to talk about xleglovers earlier stuff. It's understandable, though. I guess it's hard to find anymore. The Mike & Jen series is amazing writing! I've read the "Faithful Wife's Fall from Grace" 8 book series and enjoyed it. I know the main character's were Mike and Jen, but they seemed a bit different than the Literotica Mike and Jen.

I'd love to see Pete (xleglover) pick up from when Mike & Jen and Anna arrive in the Canary Islands. That would be epic! Not sure I liked near the end of "Cheating & Rivals" in one of the epilogues, when Frank asks Jen if he can visit them to check on Anna's recuperation and Jen says she'd like that. I hope this doesn't mean Jen is going to get involved with Frank again. I know she wanted to see Frank 2-3 times a year, but I really hate Frank for scheming to get Mike arrested by CATF again and held for months just so he could have Jen all to himself. What a scumbag Frank is.

I remember Jen telling him, "I want to be your friend. But that part of our relationship is over." I hope she sticks to that but we know how Jen gets when she gets her "cum face" on.

I like Xleglover's aka Pete Andrews idea of Jen and Mike in a multiverse. His first universe has Jen and Mike meeting at Penn State and their ensuing life. The next universe of their series starts after Penn State. They're different people, yet they're identifiable. They evoke similar feelings for me. Their ethos is easily discernable in both universes. They're the same people only at the fork in the road they'd chosen different roads.

If I have read both series, are the books sufficiently different to merit their purchase? And I don't know if I like the change required by Amazon. According to their mom, Jen bewitches the Andrews men.

This FWFFG storyline of Jen and Scott started with Jen being neglected by Mike and the decline in her self esteem and sensuality. Joey restored it. Scott amplified it. Their relationship started as a game. It immediately became much more. Their sexual chemistry was exothermic, enough heat to melt his cold heart and it was superheated and catalyzed by Mike. The events to ensue stressed their marriage to its breaking point and their relationship to its last strand.

There is a supposition that women confuse good sex with love. Women make an emotional connection because of their hormones and the released pheromones and endorphins released during sex. Women achieve a runner's high, while men achieve sedation. Men are enfeebled, drained and want to sleep after sex. While women's minds and bodies are turbocharged. Runners are out every day, rain or shine, subzero temperature or 110 degrees to achieve the feeling again. I think it maybe the same for women seeking the sexual high. For men it's more about the chase. For women it's about the destination, the outcome. Additionally, the injection of the same sperm into ovaries conditions them to adapt to his DNA. The more sex and intimacy cause women to fall in love. It's why predators pursue. They achieve self-gratification. Women are flattered by men who are always putting themselves out there for rejection. An "useless sac of testosteroned protoplasm" told me you ask 100 women for a date, 10 say yes. You need to have the temperament for rejection. Women need to realize most men who curl their toes are probably not the best mates. They are practiced seducers, less than loyal, less than honest and less than good fathers and providers.

Scott is one of those men. He's visually attractive. He's fun. But he's a conniver. He's a cheat. He's a liar. He's craven. He's a coward. He's unethical. He's always using Jenny to undermine Mike's big brain. Mike doesn't think logically with her. He takes stupid pills. She bends him to her will. He said it once, he's her backstop when things go south with her boyfriends. After the tattoo episode with Davis, Jen realizes Scott is her boyfriend and nothing more. For Scott, she is never to be idolized, never to be put on a pedestal; never to be worshipped. Remember Jen is not an ingenue when dealing with men like Scott. She tattoos herself for him while he's having sex with Davis's sister. He tells her to stop being a baby. She finally realizes: Mike adores her; idolizes her; worships her. She needs Mike. Its better to get what you need instead of what you want. Mike is her husband and a better man than Scott; she wants Scott as her boyfriend but not if Mike says no. She wants what she wants and will press the envelope to get it. But she is not willing to crash and burn for Scott.

As for Scott I think he's genuinely in love with Jenny. Scott's mother said as much and asked her not to break his heart. However, Scott is a narcissist. He'll never love anyone more than himself.

Do you ever wonder what was the conversation at Scott's trailer after Mike saw Jen's tattoo?

Do you ever wonder why the bed was in the loft, or more importantly why there was a bug in Sapphire? Why was it found during Mike's time with Jen? And the timing of Scott's call to Jenny, was it coincidence or orchestrated? Of the three possibilities for Scott's call, it happened when Mike was away correcting Sapphire.

Coincidence or not? I think not.

I think Jen was returning to Mike when she left Michigan for her birthday. The tattoo was the fissure. When Jen returned to the trailer, I think she and Scott had words about Mike's reaction to the tattoo, and Scott's indifference to her gift for doing it for him. Jen knew the tattoo really wounded Mike. Scott's total insouciance to her gift wounded her. After Jen's night of debauchery, Jen knew she had to atone for her complete disrespect of Mike. Jen could have blamed it on the booze and drugs, but she knew those weren't her reasons. She wanted to declare her independence to Mike, but at the end of the day Jen needed Mike. And as much as she loved the way Scott made her feel sexually. Those feelings were short-lived. Mike asked her to come to NYC for her birthday, she was going for her husband. Scott had elaborate plans for her birthday and "their house-warming". I think they had very cross and heated
words. Scott demanded she call Mike to insist that he come to Michigan. Jen refused. Jen's portrayal to Mike that Scott didn't protest to much was disingenuous. It was uncharacteristic of Scott. I think Scott sensed something had changed. He overplayed his hand.

Scott had to derail this reconciliation with Mike. Scott colluded with Elaine: to plant the bug in Sapphire; to pretend to be Jen and ask the real estate agent to put a bed in the loft so that she and Mike could spend the night. Elaine called Scott and informed him that Mike was returning to the office to debug Sapphire. Scott's merger had been negotiated. The merger require signatures only. The rest you know.

[xian2014]

In FWFFG in that series for me and this is my opinion of the story Jen was unlikable from the beginning to the end I dont care what the reasons were there is no excuse for cheating cheating is a choice that is made if she was having problems and was feeling neglected she should have voiced her concerns she should have forced Mike into a conversation communication is always key in any relationship without it there is no hope. Cheating with Mike's brother was wrong on every level Mike's brother cheating with his brothers wife was a huge betrayal by all accounts especially when Mike was paying for Joey's college and giving him room and board, if my brother did that to me he would be dead in my eyes with no forgiveness ever.

Scott was a predator and was wanting to take Jen from Mike, but Mike was going along with everything that was happening to him up until the end when he could not take it any more, Jen was no good, was selfish and unlikable even though Mike was into all the fantasy and to me it was fulfilled when she left Mike for Scott, but when Mike went to get Jen and wanted to start a family she did not want to end with Scott and Mike agreed to the sharing only to have her crap all over him again and I was so happy when Mike had ended it with her. This is where Jen true colors shined even more after the reconciliation and they got re married Jen told Mike that she was over Scott and stated she was over Scott because Mike told her to not be with him or see any more, Jen told Mike after three weeks of them being re-married that she was ready to start a family, so guess why, because Jen cheated on Mike again and got pregnant with Scott's baby she had sex with Mike to fool him into thinking Anna was his child. All of this comes out in the sequel to FWFFG. Any how I was glad this was the alternate Jen and Mike universe this Jen sucked.

[Asterix42]

In FWFFG in that series for me and this is my opinion of the story Jen was unlikable from the beginning to the end ….

Totally agree with that!

[DarrenZ]

Agree with Xian2014 although sucky Jen produced some hot situations, cuckoldwise.

[Crusty1969]

In my universe and probably yours, cheating is unacceptable and unforgivable. I'm not sure of the unforgivable part. Maybe? In my universe, I'd never be a willing cuckold. It's not in my DNA; it's not nurture or nature for me. In Mike's and Jen's universe they're different rules different axioms by which they live and love. Mike loves Jen unconditionally, even more than a parent loves a child. Mike defines Jen and Jen defines Mike. There is a symbiotic relationship. They feed off each other; they need each other. Remember Allie's consul to Mike about her first supervisor, with whom she cheated. Mike forgives her. Remember Mike condones and encourages Jen to sleep with Joey. And not just once but on at least two occasions. Joe wants to know why he allows other men to sleep with Jen but disqualifies him. Joe thinks its unfair. Joe loves her too. I'm not an apologist for Jen or for that matter Mike. It's all hyperbolic eroticism: brilliant, insecure, wealthy, maybe semi-autistic Mike; a classically beautiful, ebullient, graceful, hyper-sexed, jealous, magnetic, selfish and very smart Jen. And Scott, there are no words base enough to list this "HU mon", slithering about like a serpent.

[xian2014]

Okay been awhile since anyone posted so I thought I might say a few words. I just got done re-reading the entire Jen and Mike stories from HFMG to C and R, and I have to say the story arch holds its value and for me sits way above any other story I have read that involves this lifestyle sure there were parts that pissed me off and I was like dump her ass, but when you keep reading and how X brought the story around in the end it was done so masterfully and so far there has been no comparison, even with all the new stories X or should say Pete I don't feel any connection, I'm more hmm okay. During the stories Jen never lost her love for her husband even when she cheated even when she was with someone that was more then Mike, Jen never lost her focus from Mike no matter what even though Mike wasn't hung like all her lovers or never gave here the same pleasure as those other guys, she always made sure Mike was taken care of, there wasn't any of that cookie cutter cuckold story bs like denial, chastity etc.. she only made fun or teased him when they were alone and she was pushing his buttons when they were done she always said "you know I was pretending" with a smile and I love you, Jen thanked him all the time for allowing her to be her and always putting her on a pedestal sure there were rough patches and selfishness but lot of that was of Mike's doing but in the end it worked out for them. One of my favorite part of the story arch was when Drums and Jen were hanging out and Drums shows Jen a book on cuckolds and says "Mike is one of them" Jen just shrugged and Drums tried to pull the card I don't want you to let Mike fuck you until I say so, Jen looked at him and said "I don't play that game Mike is my husband and he can have me anytime and any where he wants" I loved that she was putting Mike first as it should be there are more cases like that but that one for me was a sure sign of she was and who she wants to be with in the end.

I think for me within this story arch and with any cuckold stories I would say I don't like the pregnancy parts I think its wrong to fuel a fantasy with a child, so that would be one of the negativities I would change in this story if I could and I cant understand why Jen wouldn't want a child from Mike to have a someone of his bloodline to carry on, I know she tried and tried to get Mike to get the pregnant thing out of his head but in the end she was as weak as he was, and I know people say blood doesn't make a good father or they love the child any less but what I will say and there is no denying when that baby is of your creation and of you blood there is a bigger bond for that child, and that's all I will say about this part of the lifestyle.

I hope me bringing up an old story like Jen and Mike doesn't make you guys upset I just really like this story and like I said nothing hasn't even come close I have tried recommendations but they all still started either with cheating because my husband cant give what I need, My husband had been neglecting me because he works almost 80hrs a week and I am a stay home wife, Your not big enough, you come to quick, blah, blah, blah and for me all bullshit, all the wives are shit, and uncaring so for me I stop reading.

Well that's it, I hope all is well with everyone and I will see ya in the funny papers.

[badanhapitt]

I think Xleg manages to translate well the cuckold angst part that everyone talks about, the mix of excitement and jealousy. Not all authors can put this type of interaction on paper, and of the few I've read, Xleg is still one of the best.

For me and my taste in stories, Xleg, KT Morrison, Kenny Wright and some stories by Arnica Butler and Kirsten McCurran are the best of the cuckold/loving wives subgenre. Other authors simply can't be authentic. Even ChatGPT can create more spontaneous dialogues between characters. It's so embarrassing to have to read the beginning of a story where the husband simply can't start a dialogue without calling his wife "my love". These robotic and soulless dialogues make the reader lose the desire to continue reading.

Another aspect that I think Xleg does excellently is the build up of the story before getting to the explicit sex scenes. Empathizing with the main character is crucial to motivating the reader to keep reading, and X manages to pull us along with Mike on almost every journey.

That being said, I think the erotic literature cuckold genre is extremely saturated because it is very difficult to break out of the same context as other stories. There's not a lot of room for invention in how a married woman might be involved with a lover: it's always a friend, the boss, a co-worker, a client, a guy from the gym, an ex, a bully. However, the circumstances in which this relationship takes place and how this construction is done by the author is what makes the plot a success or another cookie cutter story.

[DaveMartens34]

Okay been awhile since anyone posted so I thought I might say a few words. I just got done re-reading the entire Jen and Mike stories from HFMG to C and R, and I have to say the story arch holds its value and for me sits way above any other story I have read that involves this lifestyle sure there were parts that pissed me off and I was like dump her ass, but when you keep reading and how X brought the story around in the end it was done so masterfully and so far there has been no comparison, even with all the new stories X or should say Pete I don't feel any connection, I'm more hmm okay. During the stories Jen never lost her love for her husband even when she cheated even when she was with someone that was more then Mike, Jen never lost her focus from Mike no matter what even though Mike wasn't hung like all her lovers or never gave here the same pleasure as those other guys, she always made sure Mike was taken care of, there wasn't any of that cookie cutter cuckold story bs like denial, chastity etc.. she only made fun or teased him when they were alone and she was pushing his buttons when they were done she always said "you know I was pretending" with a smile and I love you, Jen thanked him all the time for allowing her to be her and always putting her on a pedestal sure there were rough patches and selfishness but lot of that was of Mike's doing but in the end it worked out for them. One of my favorite part of the story arch was when Drums and Jen were hanging out and Drums shows Jen a book on cuckolds and says "Mike is one of them" Jen just shrugged and Drums tried to pull the card I don't want you to let Mike fuck you until I say so, Jen looked at him and said "I don't play that game Mike is my husband and he can have me anytime and any where he wants" I loved that she was putting Mike first as it should be there are more cases like that but that one for me was a sure sign of she was and who she wants to be with in the end.

I think for me within this story arch and with any cuckold stories I would say I don't like the pregnancy parts I think its wrong to fuel a fantasy with a child, so that would be one of the negativities I would change in this story if I could and I cant understand why Jen wouldn't want a child from Mike to have a someone of his bloodline to carry on, I know she tried and tried to get Mike to get the pregnant thing out of his head but in the end she was as weak as he was, and I know people say blood doesn't make a good father or they love the child any less but what I will say and there is no denying when that baby is of your creation and of you blood there is a bigger bond for that child, and that's all I will say about this part of the lifestyle.

I hope me bringing up an old story like Jen and Mike doesn't make you guys upset I just really like this story and like I said nothing hasn't even come close I have tried recommendations but they all still started either with cheating because my husband cant give what I need, My husband had been neglecting me because he works almost 80hrs a week and I am a stay home wife, Your not big enough, you come to quick, blah, blah, blah and for me all bullshit, all the wives are shit, and uncaring so for me I stop reading.

Well that's it, I hope all is well with everyone and I will see ya in the funny papers.

Xian2014, Love talking about Mike & Jen! I completely agree with your analysis. I've always had two big questions since I finished the Mike and Jen saga years ago. I've actually lost sleep over these two fictional characters!
I'd love to get your opinion on these questions.

1-I think this is my biggest question that's bothered me. Does Jen love Ricky at the end of "Cheating & Rivals"? My opinion is, I don't think she did. I remember her telling Mike she loved Ricky
like a "special friend". But I also remember Jen telling Mike she loved Ricky "a teeny bit". So, I guess that's why I'm confused. I know she didn't love Ricky the way she loved Mike. I feel that
what Jen felt for Ricky was infatuation. Or the "love" she felt during sex with Ricky. That's not real love, though.

2-Do you think Jen went back to her sexual relationship with Frank? If I remember correctly, Jen told Frank at Jasmine's rally that "that part of our relationship is over" and she just
wanted to remain friends with Frank. I think this was just before the terrorist attack? But when Frank told Jen he had business interests in the Canary Islands and would like to visit just to
check on Anna's recuperation, I remember Jen saying something like, "I'd like that." I hope she's not going to fall under Frank's spell again! What do you think about this? I hate Frank!
He wanted to have CATF pick Mike up and hold him for up to a year!! Just so he could have Jen all to himself. What a dirtbag.

Would love to know what you think about these questions. Thanks for reading this!

[lkh96]

Jen left California only after a friend of Ricky's died overseas. The thought that it could have been Ricky forced her to move to New York where Ricky followed. They lived together until Mike called her only after Claire told Mike where Jen was. She loved Ricky and only got back with Mike because she is afraid to be alone. The idea of being abandoned terrified her. Mike was safe. She loved Mike too.

In FWFFG, Jen only left Scott because he fucked around. Scott wasn't faithful and that fuels Jen's insecurities. Mike would never do that to her. If not for that chance meeting at a bar months later they probably would not be back together.
Again, Mike was the safe choice.

In both universe, Jen loved Mike. Although, I doubt she chose Mike over Ricky & Scott as Jen stated later on. If Ricky wasn't in the army and Scott was faithful, Mike wouldn't be a 'choice'.
Jen's relationship with her dad remained unexplored in both stories. Ricky and Scott were like her dad. Both of them handsome and charismatic but dangerous to her. She wasn't in control. On the other hand with Mike she could be the master of her own universe.

I think X did a lot of disservice to Mike (& the story) without exploring concepts of trust, loyalty and commitment in a marriage/relationship. Jen is a zero. Her love for Mike redeem her as X wrote. Maybe, love isn't the grand gesture as it is make out to be. It oversimplifies human nature. If love is all is needed to sustain a marriage, world peace would be a given.


P.S. I love their relationship with Frank. It was hot, played right into her daddy issues without being incestuous and fuels their cuckold marriage.

[xian2014]

Xian2014, Love talking about Mike & Jen! I completely agree with your analysis. I've always had two big questions since I finished the Mike and Jen saga years ago. I've actually lost sleep over these two fictional characters!
I'd love to get your opinion on these questions.

1-I think this is my biggest question that's bothered me. Does Jen love Ricky at the end of "Cheating & Rivals"? My opinion is, I don't think she did. I remember her telling Mike she loved Ricky
like a "special friend". But I also remember Jen telling Mike she loved Ricky "a teeny bit". So, I guess that's why I'm confused. I know she didn't love Ricky the way she loved Mike. I feel that
what Jen felt for Ricky was infatuation. Or the "love" she felt during sex with Ricky. That's not real love, though.

2-Do you think Jen went back to her sexual relationship with Frank? If I remember correctly, Jen told Frank at Jasmine's rally that "that part of our relationship is over" and she just
wanted to remain friends with Frank. I think this was just before the terrorist attack? But when Frank told Jen he had business interests in the Canary Islands and would like to visit just to
check on Anna's recuperation, I remember Jen saying something like, "I'd like that." I hope she's not going to fall under Frank's spell again! What do you think about this? I hate Frank!
He wanted to have CATF pick Mike up and hold him for up to a year!! Just so he could have Jen all to himself. What a dirtbag.

Would love to know what you think about these questions. Thanks for reading this!

Question 1 - I think she did fall in love with Ricky but I think she loved Mike more I think with Mike she was more free to be herself and live a more carefree life, with Ricky it would have been just a traditional marriage but I think Ricky is the cheating type so eventually he would have cheated on Jen, with Mike she could be free and roam and do pretty much as she pleased as long as Mike and her agreed.
I will say the one thing that bother me was how she lied about California even her excuse was fake to me and I agreed with Mike during the argument about Ricky when she got pregnant I almost feel that was planned on her part had Mike knew the whole story about California there is no way he would have let Ricky any where near her that part pissed me off, one more thing about Jen why does she have the constant need to lie she lies about almost everything or elude the truth.

Question 2 - I dont think she will she Frank again, that took some bad turns especially when Allie got with Mike that brought Jen back to her senses, and for the record I couldnt stand him either he was a prick and brought out the worse Jen I wanted Mike to just walk out during that part so many times especially the part when he pierced her nipples and she wouldnt take them out, if I was Mike I would have packed my things grabbed Anna and left her there on that island with Frank. Jen's rational for her dumb shit astonished me, while reading I would rebuttal but Mike would say something even dumber I would be like these guys are college graduates and Mike is supposed to be a genius and hes believing this dumb shit coming out her mouth lol but hey it all worked in the end I guess.

Thanks for chatting I love talking about the Jen and Mike also

[xian2014]

Jen left California only after a friend of Ricky's died overseas. The thought that it could have been Ricky forced her to move to New York where Ricky followed. They lived together until Mike called her only after Claire told Mike where Jen was. She loved Ricky and only got back with Mike because she is afraid to be alone. The idea of being abandoned terrified her. Mike was safe. She loved Mike too.

In FWFFG, Jen only left Scott because he fucked around. Scott wasn't faithful and that fuels Jen's insecurities. Mike would never do that to her. If not for that chance meeting at a bar months later they probably would not be back together.
Again, Mike was the safe choice.

In both universe, Jen loved Mike. Although, I doubt she chose Mike over Ricky & Scott as Jen stated later on. If Ricky wasn't in the army and Scott was faithful, Mike wouldn't be a 'choice'.
Jen's relationship with her dad remained unexplored in both stories. Ricky and Scott were like her dad. Both of them handsome and charismatic but dangerous to her. She wasn't in control. On the other hand with Mike she could be the master of her own universe.

I think X did a lot of disservice to Mike (& the story) without exploring concepts of trust, loyalty and commitment in a marriage/relationship. Jen is a zero. Her love for Mike redeem her as X wrote. Maybe, love isn't the grand gesture as it is make out to be. It oversimplifies human nature. If love is all is needed to sustain a marriage, world peace would be a given.


P.S. I love their relationship with Frank. It was hot, played right into her daddy issues without being incestuous and fuels their cuckold marriage.

in FWFFG I thought it was 6 mos later when they saw each other in the bar, I never liked that Jen from that universe I hate that whole story.
For the Ricky in HFMGF universe I think she loved Ricky but I think she loved Mike more, Im not sure it was the whole Ricky deployment that made her leave if Jen is lonely she hooks up someone like she did with Goose but Ricky would lose his shit if he found out so I think Jen needs the freedom that Mike can give when it comes to that, Jen said she is a cheat and she cheats on everyone look at how many times she cheated on Mike and he stayed or came back.

I think there is love because I cant believe or I choose not to believe that love is only quantified by the size of a guys penis or how well he is at sex, I want to believe that sex is only part of the relationship but not the whole part and for me all these stories do a disservice.