Our Hotwives

Posted: **Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:18 am**

My wife and her Bull don't get to see each other all that often. However, they do communicate fairly frequently on the phone, usually by text. He often asks her to take naked pics and sex pics for him, sometimes even asking her to take dirty pics in public places. Recently, though, he turned up the heat on his little tasks for her.

We were on a trip, staying at a hotel. The two of them were texting one night, after our kids were asleep, and he told her he had a challenge for her. He wanted her to go down to the hotel bar, by herself, and make herself "available" to someone in the bar. It didn't matter who, he just wanted her to fuck a stranger that hit on her at the bar. She is always keen to please her Bull, so she told him she'd try. At the very least, she wanted to make the effort to go down to the bar and see if this was even a possibility.

I was pretty shocked that she was willing to do this. I'd talked to her about going to hotel bars with her, where I'd watch from afar as she flirted with strange men. But she always refused to pursue this little fantasy of mine. As is so often the case, though, when her Bull suggests something, she jumps at the chance. So, she took a few minutes to primp herself and then headed down to the bar, leaving me to stay in the room with our sleeping kids. She seemed convinced that nothing would happen anyway and that she'd be back in just a few minutes. I wasn't quite so convinced, so my heart was racing. I kept asking what she was going to do, how was she going to do this, was he just going to sit at the bar and order a drink and wait? Was she going to initiate contact with a guy, or wait for him? She said she'd probably just sit, order a drink, and see if anyone approached her. Again reiterating that she didn't think anyone would approach her, if anyone was even at the bar this late.

She leaves our room. I'm just sitting in bed anxiously waiting. I can't turn on a light to read or the tv to watch because I don't want to wake the kids. But I definitely can't sleep either, so I'm just sitting in the dark, feeling kind of like an idiot. Ten minutes pass, then twenty, then forty-five. I am incredibly anxious now, knowing that she wouldn't just sit there alone for this long. Something must be happening. I am pacing the room, quietly walking to the door and then back to my bed, sitting, standing, sitting, standing, pacing again. After nearly an hour has passed, I get a text from her saying "I met someone. See you in a bit." My cock is immediately hard, but I'm too tense to be in the mood to stroke it. I can't stop fidgeting now. This is the first time she's ever had a "date" that wasn't prearranged. This is the first time she's been with someone that I didn't help her screen, so I have no idea who this guy is, what he looks like, how old he is, etc. The mystery of it makes my head swirl to the point of almost being dizzy.

Another hour passes and she's not back yet. I keep thinking I should go downstairs and look for her, but I can't leave the room. Finally, after another 15 minutes or so go by (the longest hour and a quarter of my life, mind you) I hear the door to our room start to open. I jump up, then sit right back down to wait for her to come in. I can't even see if she's disheveled or not, with the lights off, but she makes her to the bed and I can smell alcohol on her, as well as cigarette smoke (she doesn't smoke) and what I think is men's cologne.

She sits on the bed next to me and I start to ask her what happened but she tells me to shoosh. She wants to text her Bull first to let him know what she did. Then she'll tell me. So I wait for what seems like an eternity while she writes a novel of a text. Then she tells me what happened, in her own way - which means she she gives me an outline of the evening, leaving out a lot of detail that I am desperate to hear. I always have to ask a lot of questions to get details, and usually it takes a couple of days to really get every last detail out of her. It's not that she's hiding anything, she just doesn't think those minute details matter as much as I do.

She went to the bar and ordered herself a vodka soda. She was surprised that there were actually quite a few people in the bar still. She said it was a mix of older men, middle-aged businessmen and even a crew of 20-something year old surfers. She glanced around, seeing if there were single me, good looking men, men with potential. She thought if she saw one, she might make eye contact and let it go from there. After a couple of failed attempts (i.e., guys that didn't suit her tastes), a couple of guys came up to her together. They were business partners, in town for a little work and play. The three of them chatted for a while, them buying her several drinks (she'd already had a couple of beers earlier, so I knew if she had a couple more, she must have been getting pretty tipsy). As they talked, things got a little flirtatious especially with one of the guys. They of course asked her what she was doing there, and she lied, saying she had come to town to visit with a friend who was asleep in their room. They asked about her wedding room and she matter of factly said she was indeed married, but offered no further details and they let it drop. Though that didn't slow them down. The guy she was flirting with slowly moved himself closer to her and started to occasionally put his hand on her leg, so she started to do the same to him. The casual touching became more frequent until finally he leaned in and gave her a little kiss and asked if she wanted to go somewhere else. She asked where, and he said they could go upstairs to his room. And so they did. She said they kissed passionately in the elevator, then when he opened the door to his room and led her in, he started lifting her shirt from behind. She helped him get it off and they kissed some more. She then stood back, took off her bra and then her pants and panties. When he saw her doing that, he removed his clothes too and they laid on the bed together. They kissed again and then he went down on her, giving her the first of several orgasms she'd have with him. After she came on his tongue, he scooted up the bed, on his knees and put his cock to her lips, so she sucked him for a little bit until he was rock hard. He asked her if she wanted him and she said God yes. He then pulled a condom out of his pants pocket, put it on, and slid his cock inside of her. She said he wasn't huge, but good sized, maybe about 7" and thick. And it was curved, which she found interesting. She came again while he was fucking her missionary style, then he pulled out and stood on the side of the bed, yanking her legs toward him, so he could re-enter her while he was standing and she was on her back. She said he fucked her hard in that position, lifting her legs up on to his shoulders. And again she came, twice in a row this time. he told her he was ready to cum and she said she wanted him to, so he pulled out and yanked the condom off and jerked himself off onto her stomach and tits, glazing her in his hot semen. He collapsed next to her and they both commented on how hot that was. He told her she had a lucky husband. She said she laughed, and said thanks. He then got her a towel and helped her clean his cum off of her body. She got dressed and left.

When we left the next morning, she said she saw him in the lobby and he was shocked when he saw that she was with her family, including me. I had wondered when we were walking out why she started laughing, and it was only when she told me about seeing him down there that I learned what it was she was smiling and laughing about. Knowing that he saw me just reignited my cuckold angst and brought back all those intense feelings I'd had the night before.

Anyway, her Bull's challenge was accepted and accomplished! Here's hoping to more challenges.

Posted: **Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:38 am**

What and amazing night you both had. Look on his face must have been priceless

Posted: **Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:12 pm**

Awesome story!!

Posted: **Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:15 pm**

A very exciting challenge, it certainly would have been an interesting meeting in the lobby the next morning.
I would enjoy reading more of your wife's stories with her bull.

Thank you for taking the time to post this. Well done.

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:47 pm**

Love the story. I loved it even more when she was telling me what happened from your hotel room that night. It's a lot like the version you told but instead of her saying, "honey I'm going to do this now" it was more like her asking me, "yes sir I will do whatever makes my bull happy.".............I'm also looking forward to future challenges. She's come a long ways since I first took her monogamous wife V card.

Posted: **Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:05 am**

I would love to have see the look on his face in the morning!

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:40 pm**

Meant to post on this when I first read it. Very well done! I have been in the other guy's position before. Sweet. Thanks. R.

Posted: **Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:56 am**

This deserves to be bumped up! Any more challenges you want to share with us?

Posted: **Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:00 am**

I appreciate that you liked, and bumped, the story. There isn't really another great new story to tell ... yet. He's had her do some picture taking challenges, as I mentioned before. Things like spreading her pussy open in front of the Xmas tree, or writing messages on her body in sharpie directed to him. My favorite was when he had her drive around topless, and then take a picture of her spreading her pussy in a crowded grocery store parking lot as she was stepping out of the car. I really like the public photos ... hopefully he'll ask for more of those!

Anyway, besides that, we haven't been able to accomplish any other challenges, though we are currently attempting to right now. He has her withholding sex from me. But, being a magnanimous Bull, he doesn't want her to suffer the pains of abstinence. So, he has tasked us with finding new men for her. Now, this is something we were already doing to some degree, albeit half-heartedly. But he has instructed us to step up our game and aggressively pursue new guys. We've used craigslist in the past, and continue to do so, but he recently insisted that she set up a Tinder account (which also requires setting up a facebook account). The accounts won't use her real name, but will include accurate details and pics. Her Bull is convinced that through Tinder, she'll easily have all of her sexual needs fulfilled and I will then remain abstinent.

So like I said, there isn't much of a story to be told yet, but hopefully soon there will be lots to share!

Posted: **Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:55 pm**

I know that this is a hot fantasy. But don't you think the two of you should grow up. You were with your kids for gods sake. Why would you do that while you are with them. What if something had happened to your wife. You didn't know where she was, what she was doing, or who she was with and you where in no position to go help if she needed it.

There is nothing wrong with the lifestyle, and it can be good for the right people. But you still have to be responsible and take care of your family first... Especially your children.

There is plenty of time to enjoy going to get fucked by strangers without cheapening the time with your family.

I don't think it was shock on the guy's face, it was disgust.

Posted: **Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:00 pm**

^^ It's interesting how some can be so free with their display of their ignorance, and of lack of experience with how to manage day to day events in an ongoing relationship.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:31 am**

Hotwifeok wrote:I know that this is a hot fantasy. But don't you think the two of you should grow up. You were with your kids for gods sake. Why would you do that while you are with them. What if something had happened to your wife. You didn't know where she was, what she was doing, or who she was with and you where in no position to go help if she needed it.

There is nothing wrong with the lifestyle, and it can be good for the right people. But you still have to be responsible and take care of your family first... Especially your children.

There is plenty of time to enjoy going to get fucked by strangers without cheapening the time with your family.

I don't think it was shock on the guy's face, it was disgust.

What he said!

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:58 am**

That's pretty presumptuous, not to mention judgmental, of some of you. Nothing we did put them at risk. I guess you're assuming our kids are too young to take care of themselves, or be left alone, if needs be. You're wrong. They weren't in harms way and they weren't exposed to any of our adult activities. So feel free to take a step down from the high and mighty soapbox.

As for something happening to my wife, was this situation somehow different from the countless other experiences hotwives on this forum have had? Is it somehow different from the experiences that multitudes of single women, staying in hotels by themselves, have? She's not helpless and it's decidedly misogynistic of you to assume that a woman needs a man by her side to protect her at all times. Wake up.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:45 pm**

Way to go, Tether. Ignore the message and attack the messenger. The way you told the story your wife was at substantial risk. Is it misogynistic to assume the guy probably outweighed her about a hundred pounds or perhaps had a weapon in his room? And your kids could have awakened at any time. And mommy is either gone or is back in the room smelling like alcohol, tobacco and another man's cologne.

You said "This is the first time she's been with someone I didn't help her screen."

Why should you bother screening in the future? Wouldn't that be misognystic?

Posted: **Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:12 am**

Zona -
Does a woman need a screener? Can a woman make choices for herself? Do women ever meet strangers in a hotel bar and go to their room with them? Or was my wife the very first to ever dare such a thing? If she sensed something was off, she wouldn't have gone through with it. But her risk was no greater than any other woman's risk when meeting and connecting with a man in a bar.
It seems like what you're suggesting is that women (whether in the lifestyle or not) are too fragile to be alone in a bar and hook up with a stranger. That seems like an archaic point of view.

I don't know what world you live in, but it's different than the one most of us occupy. I'm guessing perhaps it's your own fantasy world. Our kids don't call her Mommy, and they don't need to know where she is at all times of the day and night. What if she smells like alcohol, tobacco and someone else's cologne? This is what makes me think you live in a fantasy world. Only people who spend time writing fictional stories think a woman's scent will automatically give rise to the suspicion that she was fucking someone else. Let me guess, in your world, she might smell of sex too.
She smelled of alcohol anyway, since she does drink. She wouldn't smell of tobacco, since she doesn't smoke and you can't smoke in bars. And the cologne thing, really?

We screen for a variety of reasons, usually having more to do with personality and mutual attraction, since we are typically meeting people on-line. But if it's in-person, then the "screening" is a little more traditional. You can see the person, and the conversation will reveal their personality. It's the same general principle though. Perhaps you've focused too hard on my word choice. By screening, I simply meant that I've been involved in the selection process, not that I was somehow able to run federal background checks on someone and ensure, with 100% certainty, that they are completely safe and sane.

By the way, you've misused the "messenger" idiom.

I'm Out!

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:22 am**

I have noticed more and more moralists on here criticising others, no doubt in the hope that they will stop people posting.

Tether: I suggest you ignore such posts and keep on doing what you and your wife enjoy. I hope you post again

Posted: **Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:13 pm**

Great challenge hope there's more bull like this for us to find

Posted: **Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:17 pm**

Tether wrote:Zona -
Does a woman need a screener? Can a woman make choices for herself? Do women ever meet strangers in a hotel bar and go to their room with them? Or was my wife the very first to ever dare such a thing? If she sensed something was off, she wouldn't have gone through with it. But her risk was no greater than any other woman's risk when meeting and connecting with a man in a bar.
It seems like what you're suggesting is that women (whether in the lifestyle or not) are too fragile to be alone in a bar and hook up with a stranger. That seems like an archaic point of view.

I don't know what world you live in, but it's different than the one most of us occupy. I'm guessing perhaps it's your own fantasy world. Our kids don't call her Mommy, and they don't need to know where she is at all times of the day and night. What if she smells like alcohol, tobacco and someone else's cologne? This is what makes me think you live in a fantasy world. Only people who spend time writing fictional stories think a woman's scent will automatically give rise to the suspicion that she was fucking someone else. Let me guess, in your world, she might smell of sex too.
She smelled of alcohol anyway, since she does drink. She wouldn't smell of tobacco, since she doesn't smoke and you can't smoke in bars. And the cologne thing, really?

We screen for a variety of reasons, usually having more to do with personality and mutual attraction, since we are typically meeting people on-line. But if it's in-person, then the "screening" is a little more traditional. You can see the person, and the conversation will reveal their personality. It's the same general principle though. Perhaps you've focused too hard on my word choice. By screening, I simply meant that I've been involved in the selection process, not that I was somehow able to run federal background checks on someone and ensure, with 100% certainty, that they are completely safe and sane.

By the way, you've misused the "messenger" idiom.

I'm Out!

Hotwifeok opined that you and your wife were reckless when she picked up a stranger in a bar and disappeared with him for a couple hours. She didn't screen him, nor did you. She thought he was hot so she went with him to his hotel room and fucked him. You had no clue even what room they were in. May I point out that most likely Ted Bundy's victims also thought he was a nice hot hunk--right up until he slit their throats?

And of course you totally protected your children, by assuring us that none of them ever wake up in the middle of the night from a tummy ache, or having to pee, or hearing the hotel room door open and close while their mommy, or mom, or mama, or mother (you speciously objected to my use of the word "mommy" in my previous post, so just use whatever word you want there), or heard the two of you whispering and giggling, or heard her tapping or saw the light from her phone as she texted her bull, so of course they would never smell the cigarette smell on her or the strange cologne. Nah. That could never happen.

So if being concerned about those things make me or Hotwifeok or others, "misogynists" or "moralists" in your mind and the minds of the cheer-bunnies, I'll wear those labels proudly. But I rather think it just makes us sensible people who, admittedly perverted as ALL of us OHW readers are, disapprove of thoughtless recklessness that endangers a woman's physical safety and ESPECIALLY endangers the tender psyches of children.

But then again, you put your story in the Library, which is the one place fiction is not only allowed, but encouraged, so I think I'll just assume that this story is in the Forum in which it belongs.

BTW, if you seriously think your attack on us messengers is not a classic case of shooting the messenger, then you might consider spending some time with some classic literature (where you might find the origin of the idiom, or metaphor), or just google what Freud or Jung has to say about that.

Posted: **Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:29 pm**

Tether wrote:That's pretty presumptuous, not to mention judgmental, of some of you. Nothing we did put them at risk. I guess you're assuming our kids are too young to take care of themselves, or be left alone, if needs be. You're wrong. They weren't in harms way and they weren't exposed to any of our adult activities. So feel free to take a step down from the high and mighty soapbox.

As for something happening to my wife, was this situation somehow different from the countless other experiences hotwives on this forum have had? Is it somehow different from the experiences that multitudes of single women, staying in hotels by themselves, have? She's not helpless and it's decidedly misogynistic of you to assume that a woman needs a man by her side to protect her at all times. Wake up.

I will say that I was absolutely judgemental in this post. Maybe I should have been less direct but when it comes to safety and children I don't have much tolerance.

This situation was not necessarily different than others except that she went to pick up a stranger in a strange city with no one knowing where she was. This is irresponsible, in my opinion, in today's world.

It, of course, is your business but I don't think you thought about the potential consequences. I know it was a hot idea. I think it was very very hot. I just think some precautions should be taken in real life. How would you feel if something happened to your wife and you had done nothing to protect her. I would suggest the same thing to you if you went out to pick up a strange woman. It doesn't matter what sex you are it can happen to any of us. It is just good common sense to have someone know where you are supposed to be and when you might be expected with the number of crazies out there in this world.

When I first married my wife she worked in a town 60 miles away. I always asked her to call and tell me, at least leave a message, when she was headed home so I would know about when she would be home. She was always "forgetful" because she thought it was about controlling her. I explained and explained it wasn't about control. It was about safety. Well one day she had car trouble and wasn't even coming home on the road I expected. She didn't have any cell service so she couldn't call for help. She was stuck. It luckily turned out OK but she didn't question the safety issue again and she finally understood what I was after. She can stay out as late as she wants. I just want a little curtesy so that I don't worry about her safety. There are enough other things to worry about in this lifestyle.

As far as the kids go... If they were younger then they wouldn't catch on. But they need their parents more. If one had gotten deathly ill and you needed some medical attention where was the mother. How would you both have felt? If they were older they may very well catch on. They don't need you as much but would it be good if they caught on?

This was a family vacation. You let the bull intrude on what was supposed to be family time. You didn't put your kids first on a family trip. These are my issues with what occurred and I think you said it the guy she was with was surprised too and he was younger than the two of you. I think he thought it was wrong too.

For the record I don't do this so people won't post. I am not the morality police. If you or anybody disagree with my position you are free to ignor it. You are free to add more to the conversation. You are free to criticize my message. I just hope that you think just a bit about what I said and decide if it has any value or merit.

I am sorry and apologize if I offended you. I did come on strong and I shouldn't have. I just want everyone to enjoy this lifestyle, be responsible, and be safe.

Posted: **Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:13 am**

Zona wrote:
Tether wrote:Zona -

BTW, if you seriously think your attack on us messengers is not a classic case of shooting the messenger, then you might consider spending some time with some classic literature (where you might find the origin of the idiom, or metaphor), or just google what Freud or Jung has to say about that.

Somebody put their big boy pants on today, using big words and references. This is obviously off-topic, but it is not a classic case of shooting the messenger. You aren't carrying a message for anyone else. You are delivering your own message. You can't say "don't shoot me, I'm just telling you what someone else said."

As for the main topic, it's one worth discussing with you, since you clearly don't pay attention to what I've written about it.

Posted: **Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:44 am**

Hotwifeok wrote:
I will say that I was absolutely judgemental in this post. Maybe I should have been less direct but when it comes to safety and children I don't have much tolerance.

This situation was not necessarily different than others except that she went to pick up a stranger in a strange city with no one knowing where she was. This is irresponsible, in my opinion, in today's world.

It, of course, is your business but I don't think you thought about the potential consequences. I know it was a hot idea. I think it was very very hot. I just think some precautions should be taken in real life. How would you feel if something happened to your wife and you had done nothing to protect her. I would suggest the same thing to you if you went out to pick up a strange woman. It doesn't matter what sex you are it can happen to any of us. It is just good common sense to have someone know where you are supposed to be and when you might be expected with the number of crazies out there in this world.

When I first married my wife she worked in a town 60 miles away. I always asked her to call and tell me, at least leave a message, when she was headed home so I would know about when she would be home. She was always "forgetful" because she thought it was about controlling her. I explained and explained it wasn't about control. It was about safety. Well one day she had car trouble and wasn't even coming home on the road I expected. She didn't have any cell service so she couldn't call for help. She was stuck. It luckily turned out OK but she didn't question the safety issue again and she finally understood what I was after. She can stay out as late as she wants. I just want a little curtesy so that I don't worry about her safety. There are enough other things to worry about in this lifestyle.

As far as the kids go... If they were younger then they wouldn't catch on. But they need their parents more. If one had gotten deathly ill and you needed some medical attention where was the mother. How would you both have felt? If they were older they may very well catch on. They don't need you as much but would it be good if they caught on?

This was a family vacation. You let the bull intrude on what was supposed to be family time. You didn't put your kids first on a family trip. These are my issues with what occurred and I think you said it the guy she was with was surprised too and he was younger than the two of you. I think he thought it was wrong too.

For the record I don't do this so people won't post. I am not the morality police. If you or anybody disagree with my position you are free to ignor it. You are free to add more to the conversation. You are free to criticize my message. I just hope that you think just a bit about what I said and decide if it has any value or merit.

I am sorry and apologize if I offended you. I did come on strong and I shouldn't have. I just want everyone to enjoy this lifestyle, be responsible, and be safe.

I appreciate you making this a more thoughtful and reasonable discussion. I sort of feel like there is a fundamental misunderstanding about how things went that night. Presumably that's my fault for not being a deft enough writer to articulate what happened. First, as I've said a few times in response to Zona, our kids aren't little kids. They are mid and late teens. Second, I was still in the hotel. I was there for the kids if they needed something. Third, my wife was still in the same hotel. So I knew where she was. I guess what you're saying is that once she went to the guy's room, then I didn't know what room she went to. Obviously there is some risk involved. The guy could have been a Ted Bundy, to use Zona's example. But I would argue that having a drink at a bar with a guy, where there are others around to see them together, and then going to his room that he is registered in with the hotel, is a lot safer than many other things men and women do by themselves on a day-to-day basis.
Also, if the story were reversed, and I was detailing how I'd picked up a hot woman at the bar and took her to my room, would anyone have had a thing to say about it?

To clarify another minor point - we weren't in a strange city. We don't live there, but we are very familiar with it. I understand the concern about letting our sexcapades get in the way of a family vacation. We felt like it wasn't interrupting family time because it was late at night. Our kids were bunked down for the night, so we weren't foregoing time with them in favor of our adult activity.

It's funny, I thought this was a pretty vanilla story that wouldn't garner much of a response. Instead, I received very heated backlash. Considering some of the crazy stories I've read on this forum (including those that involve people's children) that nobody criticizes, I am shocked and saddened by the response this story got. It felt personal for some reason. Maybe I offended someone along the way. If so, I apologize.

Posted: **Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:39 am**

Tether was recapping a very hot experience in a forum that caters to this lifestyle and gives someone a way to communicate with others in the same lifestyle and share experiences. It seems he was very conscious of protecting their children and very open minded in letting his wife have some "entertainment" on her own time. In my opinion, it would be no different than asking his wife to watch the kids while he goes out for a golfing day. They certainly sound like responsible parents so I think we should leave that concern to them and enjoy the intensity of the adventure he shared with us.

Thether, that was a very hot experience .. And the comment in the lobby topped it off !!

Brad

Posted: **Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:40 pm**

Tether wrote:
Hotwifeok wrote:
I will say that I was absolutely judgemental in this post. Maybe I should have been less direct but when it comes to safety and children I don't have much tolerance.

This situation was not necessarily different than others except that she went to pick up a stranger in a strange city with no one knowing where she was. This is irresponsible, in my opinion, in today's world.

It, of course, is your business but I don't think you thought about the potential consequences. I know it was a hot idea. I think it was very very hot. I just think some precautions should be taken in real life. How would you feel if something happened to your wife and you had done nothing to protect her. I would suggest the same thing to you if you went out to pick up a strange woman. It doesn't matter what sex you are it can happen to any of us. It is just good common sense to have someone know where you are supposed to be and when you might be expected with the number of crazies out there in this world.

When I first married my wife she worked in a town 60 miles away. I always asked her to call and tell me, at least leave a message, when she was headed home so I would know about when she would be home. She was always "forgetful" because she thought it was about controlling her. I explained and explained it wasn't about control. It was about safety. Well one day she had car trouble and wasn't even coming home on the road I expected. She didn't have any cell service so she couldn't call for help. She was stuck. It luckily turned out OK but she didn't question the safety issue again and she finally understood what I was after. She can stay out as late as she wants. I just want a little curtesy so that I don't worry about her safety. There are enough other things to worry about in this lifestyle.

As far as the kids go... If they were younger then they wouldn't catch on. But they need their parents more. If one had gotten deathly ill and you needed some medical attention where was the mother. How would you both have felt? If they were older they may very well catch on. They don't need you as much but would it be good if they caught on?

This was a family vacation. You let the bull intrude on what was supposed to be family time. You didn't put your kids first on a family trip. These are my issues with what occurred and I think you said it the guy she was with was surprised too and he was younger than the two of you. I think he thought it was wrong too.

For the record I don't do this so people won't post. I am not the morality police. If you or anybody disagree with my position you are free to ignor it. You are free to add more to the conversation. You are free to criticize my message. I just hope that you think just a bit about what I said and decide if it has any value or merit.

I am sorry and apologize if I offended you. I did come on strong and I shouldn't have. I just want everyone to enjoy this lifestyle, be responsible, and be safe.
I appreciate you making this a more thoughtful and reasonable discussion. I sort of feel like there is a fundamental misunderstanding about how things went that night. Presumably that's my fault for not being a deft enough writer to articulate what happened. First, as I've said a few times in response to Zona, our kids aren't little kids. They are mid and late teens. Second, I was still in the hotel. I was there for the kids if they needed something. Third, my wife was still in the same hotel. So I knew where she was. I guess what you're saying is that once she went to the guy's room, then I didn't know what room she went to. Obviously there is some risk involved. The guy could have been a Ted Bundy, to use Zona's example. But I would argue that having a drink at a bar with a guy, where there are others around to see them together, and then going to his room that he is registered in with the hotel, is a lot safer than many other things men and women do by themselves on a day-to-day basis.
Also, if the story were reversed, and I was detailing how I'd picked up a hot woman at the bar and took her to my room, would anyone have had a thing to say about it?

Under the circumstances yes I would. This is not a male/female issue to me. It is about the crazies out there.

To clarify another minor point - we weren't in a strange city. We don't live there, but we are very familiar with it. I understand the concern about letting our sexcapades get in the way of a family vacation. We felt like it wasn't interrupting family time because it was late at night. Our kids were bunked down for the night, so we weren't foregoing time with them in favor of our adult activity.

I wasn't necessarily meaning strange city but rather place you don't live. in a way he older kids may have been a bigger concern to me unless you don't care about them being in the know about your lifestyle choices. I have no complaints or qualms about that. In instances, when the kids are old enough and mature enough to understand, I think it helps them start there life in a more sexually liberated way. Kids having sex is funny in a way. As long as they understand the responsibility of doing so and don't end up screwing up their life with an unwanted pregnancy why should we worry about it. There are a few stories, and maybe even more than a few, where the kids upbringing in such a negative sexual environment appears to have been detrimental.

It's funny, I thought this was a pretty vanilla story that wouldn't garner much of a response. Instead, I received very heated backlash. Considering some of the crazy stories I've read on this forum (including those that involve people's children) that nobody criticizes, I am shocked and saddened by the response this story got. It felt personal for some reason. Maybe I offended someone along the way. If so, I apologize.

Now you make me want to laugh. Vanilla story? OMG no. This was an extremely hot story.!

Don't apologize. It is your life and your and your wife's decision. I had an opinion and I expressed it. Although in a not nice way which is my problem not yours and I apologize again. If you disagree with my opinion so be it. You have that right and I certainly will respect that and certainly not think poorly of you for it. And even though my first words probably make people think otherwise I don't think poorly of you. I respect and appreciate that you shared this story with us and that you and your wife have enough confidence and love to pursue this lifestyle. That is rare. I hope you share some more of your hot encounters and I promise not to be a dumb ass, asshole again!

HOT STORY! Just so you know!

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Posted: **Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:41 am**

I agree with Hotwifeok, and Zona, PLay time, and family time should be kept seperate, and never mixed, especially with children present, regardless of their age. What you and your wife do, and what risks you take ,is your business, but not when there are children present who might be affected by your actions.

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