Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[Dharmadude]

That’s a good update. Like you said, a learning opportunity. It definitely falls into the above scenarios you mentioned. Glad for you both that you can further refine your interests and path forward.

IIRC you said she and Mr. S had known each other previously but hadn’t seen each other for a while (might be getting mixed up). Either way, maybe the energy they had has changed and she just didn’t feel it anymore.

[ballextender3209]

I had to let her know that I may not be able to physically be at the airport to pick her up when she arrives tomorrow evening, after all. I have a late business meeting with someone coming from across the country, in preparation for all-day intense meetings on Wednesday. He arrives just before she arrives, same airport. The reason I mention this is because she and I had both (without saying it) wanted to reconnect as quickly as possible on her return; and she wants to give me the full details of how things went with Mr. S. and how they did not go.

She confirmed this after it became clear she will need to take a taxi home. She said she was expecting to do the full detailed conversation, to "make me happy" etc. regarding her efforts.

Why do I get the feeling Mr. B will be giving your wife a ride home?

[slenderfish]

Quick update, she did take a taxi home last night. I waited until the last possible moment before leaving for my dinner meeting in hopes of a quick hug and kiss but we ended up passing each other going opposite directions about five minutes away from the house.

When I got home, we had about an hour before turning in (she's adapting from the time zone) and didn't get deep into anything except happy to be with each other, etc. I asked her if I had been supportive in the way she was hoping and expecting and she said yes.

She mentioned wanting to go out on Saturday night, that she does have a hair appointment to get jazzed up, so I went ahead and just now made a rez for four people at an upscale outside dining place within reach of here. Now to figure out how to get Mt. B as part of the group of four. Perhaps we end up as a group of three?

[BallSpanking]

I think that now you have her commitment to exploring HW'ing you might be able to dispense with some of the choreography around her seduction, like reserving for four, instead of three. But then again, you want to be sure not to pressure her either by word or action, so she is free to proceed with this in her own direction, and self motivated.

I was thinking about your recent discovery as to Slenderwife's particular likes in men. If she would prefer a different body type, or man than Mr B, encourage her to point them out to you, tell you what it is about one or another she finds attractive. Generally speaking, we can assume she will like her men strong, perhaps muscular, but not a power lifter, handsome/rugged, well endowed, and Alpha. We overlook that women often cue-in on their intellect and wit, their char, ease of conversation, attentiveness, interest they show in her, etc., factors that require her one-on-one to approve or disapprove the candidates.

Saturday is a couple of days away, yet. You may want to play down any sexual innuendo in the meantime, unless she is feeling it, or initiates the topic. Make sure she knows you are completely at ease with her driving this boat, and trust she will do what she finds pleasing as her opportunities arise. Don't let her see you scouring AFF feverishly for a well hung Adonis in your local area, unless, of course, she asks you to (lol).

[slenderfish]

Thanks, Ballspank.

I will also add that one of the reasons the conversation last night was limited is that she was tired from travel and from time zone differences, but the real driver to her was that she has her private training session this morning (with Mr. G - the trainer) and wants to be fresh for that.

I'm out for the day at my meetings and have stolen a chance to check in here on OHW.

As for the reservation, I did make it for four persons and will mention to her later of the reservation, and we will play it from there. If she asks who we should invite, I'll suggest her hottie girlfriend who lives not far from that location, but who (for religion reasons) won't "date" Mr. B, and Mr. B who knows her well and likes her, and would certainly date her if she were game. I think that will be a fairly attractive setup because at the end of the dinner the friend will drive home by herself (the other direction). The three of us remaining will go the other direction towards my house, which is on his way home.

[Mark K]

Thanks, Ballspank.

I will also add that one of the reasons the conversation last night was limited is that she was tired from travel and from time zone differences, but the real driver to her was that she has her private training session this morning (with Mr. G - the trainer) and wants to be fresh for that.

I'm out for the day at my meetings and have stolen a chance to check in here on OHW.

As for the reservation, I did make it for four persons and will mention to her later of the reservation, and we will play it from there. If she asks who we should invite, I'll suggest her hottie girlfriend who lives not far from that location, but who (for religion reasons) won't "date" Mr. B, and Mr. B who knows her well and likes her, and would certainly date her if she were game. I think that will be a fairly attractive setup because at the end of the dinner the friend will drive home by herself (the other direction). The three of us remaining will go the other direction towards my house, which is on his way home.

Wow, absolutely fantastic plan!

[36DDwife]

Thanks, Ballspank.

I will also add that one of the reasons the conversation last night was limited is that she was tired from travel and from time zone differences, but the real driver to her was that she has her private training session this morning (with Mr. G - the trainer) and wants to be fresh for that.

I'm out for the day at my meetings and have stolen a chance to check in here on OHW.

As for the reservation, I did make it for four persons and will mention to her later of the reservation, and we will play it from there. If she asks who we should invite, I'll suggest her hottie girlfriend who lives not far from that location, but who (for religion reasons) won't "date" Mr. B, and Mr. B who knows her well and likes her, and would certainly date her if she were game. I think that will be a fairly attractive setup because at the end of the dinner the friend will drive home by herself (the other direction). The three of us remaining will go the other direction towards my house, which is on his way home.

Slenderfish...just out of curiosity...does your wife have a career? Job? Volunteer work? Something else?

[slenderfish]

Update.

I proposed as noted above (via text message during breaks today).

She came back with the following (is she showing her hand?):

- Don't invite religious hottie

- Instead invite Mr. B and the woman he banged at our house that night as the fourth

- I agreed and asked her to reach out to Mr. B

- Mr. B accepted the invitation but also said he has not been in touch with his one-nighter and in fact never got her number

- So until something changes it's the three of us for Saturday night date with my wife!

I guess this may not hold all the way until Saturday but either way the fallback is my original plan.

[DavidnDaria]

I don't know, and I hate to be negative, but your plan sends a hint of subterfuge to me--unless you've told your wife of your intentions. Perhaps she's guessed your plan by now, and you've admitted to it?

[slenderfish]

I don't know, and I hate to be negative, but your plan sends a hint of subterfuge to me--unless you've told your wife of your intentions. Perhaps she's guessed your plan by now, and you've admitted to it?

I never mentioned Mr. B but wondered if she would suggest him as the 4th. She did that on her own.

But I also expect it to change yet again, I don't think it works for Slenderwife for the group to be just her, me and Mr. B. She will want another woman to balance the group.

She really is a girl's girl, after all.

So I again suggested the religious girl. She is fun and hot enough to have along in any case, also I believe for Mr. B.

[superb101]

I think your idea is brilliant!

[DavidnDaria]

I don't know, and I hate to be negative, but your plan sends a hint of subterfuge to me--unless you've told your wife of your intentions. Perhaps she's guessed your plan by now, and you've admitted to it?

I never mentioned Mr. B but wondered if she would suggest him as the 4th. She did that on her own.

But I also expect it to change yet again, I don't think it works for Slenderwife for the group to be just her, me and Mr. B. She will want another woman to balance the group.

She really is a girl's girl, after all.

So I again suggested the religious girl. She is fun and hot enough to have along in any case, also I believe for Mr. B.

It's not my place to judge, nor is it my place to offer any sort of advice. I do truly hope things work out and that you get your wish, sooner or later.

[slenderfish]

I don't know, and I hate to be negative, but your plan sends a hint of subterfuge to me--unless you've told your wife of your intentions. Perhaps she's guessed your plan by now, and you've admitted to it?

I never mentioned Mr. B but wondered if she would suggest him as the 4th. She did that on her own.

But I also expect it to change yet again, I don't think it works for Slenderwife for the group to be just her, me and Mr. B. She will want another woman to balance the group.

She really is a girl's girl, after all.

So I again suggested the religious girl. She is fun and hot enough to have along in any case, also I believe for Mr. B.

It's not my place to judge, nor is it my place to offer any sort of advice. I do truly hope things work out and that you get your wish, sooner or later.

Not implying you judged. I'm pleased to know you are following our adventure. I've been a big fan of you guys for many years.

[DavidnDaria]

I don't know, and I hate to be negative, but your plan sends a hint of subterfuge to me--unless you've told your wife of your intentions. Perhaps she's guessed your plan by now, and you've admitted to it?

I never mentioned Mr. B but wondered if she would suggest him as the 4th. She did that on her own.

But I also expect it to change yet again, I don't think it works for Slenderwife for the group to be just her, me and Mr. B. She will want another woman to balance the group.

She really is a girl's girl, after all.

So I again suggested the religious girl. She is fun and hot enough to have along in any case, also I believe for Mr. B.

It's not my place to judge, nor is it my place to offer any sort of advice. I do truly hope things work out and that you get your wish, sooner or later.

Not implying you judged. I'm pleased to know you are following our adventure. I've been a big fan of you guys for many years.

I know. I just don't want you to get the wrong impression. Thank you for following us. Many years? Yeah, it has been a while... damn! We're very lucky men, you and I. I just looked at your recent post in the Hotties sub-forum.

[TomG]

I haven't commented much on this thread, but I've thoroughly enjoyed reading, and it's both interesting and hot as hell to read about the beginnings of a hotwife. You're a lucky man, Slenderfish!

[BallSpanking]

In addition to being sly and observant, you have a good handle on logistics and geography ... Slenderwife don't stand a chance!

[linkbkw]

Good luck. My wife is having a party this weekend and her FWB just invited himself. Hope we both hit a home run! Love your story and your wife sounds like a lot of fun. And she is gorgeous!

[slenderfish]

Good luck. My wife is having a party this weekend and her FWB just invited himself. Hope we both hit a home run! Love your story and your wife sounds like a lot of fun. And she is gorgeous!

Thanks, takes one to know one. I'm catching up, hopefully.

[tojanman]

I’m rooting for you and wife tonight. But mainly I’m rooting for Mr. B. From how you’ve described the situation, it sounds like she’s had Mr. B as her chosen one for a while and you’re just playing catch up lol.

P.s. your wife is smoking hot. Like really hot. Ridiculously hot. Any man would be damn lucky for her attentions.

[superb101]

Does she know about the security camera you set up? Be sure to have that up and running Sat night!

[slenderfish]

I’m rooting for you and wife tonight. But mainly I’m rooting for Mr. B. From how you’ve described the situation, it sounds like she’s had Mr. B as her chosen one for a while and you’re just playing catch up lol.

P.s. your wife is smoking hot. Like really hot. Ridiculously hot. Any man would be damn lucky for her attentions.

We are all set to go out with Mr. B joining us on Saturday night.

I agree she is smoking hot. Amazes me that she doesn't see it quite that way.

[slenderfish]

Does she know about the security camera you set up? Be sure to have that up and running Sat night!

She does know about the security camera, she was the one insisting I set it up in late 2019/early 2020. We both forgot about it until I remembered, and then I did remind har about the camera and that I'd seen the video clips of her interacting with Mr. B and that they were hot to me but also quite clear she was omitting so much from her descriptions and explanations, to the point of being dishonest.

I'll check it and be sure it's set up for its intended security purposes. If it catches any action, all the better.

[afagehi7]

Still waiting for the weekend update

[slenderfish]

UPDATE ON WHAT HAPPENED WITH MR. S

Last night she was ready to get into the details, over a bottle of wine and a nice dinner of freshly-cooked wild salmon over cabbage and apple salad.

Ultimately, Mr. S did "flub" it last Friday night.

She had noted to me earlier that day that she was once again really experiencing strong emotional feelings about it being 9/11 and her naturally reflecting back to that day in NYC. I'll remind that she lived in NYC back then, newly there just a few months earlier, and had not yet a) achieved a suitable job and b) was still living with her boyfriend but perhaps already broken up. As a consequence, she was basically screwed over for at least a year afterward. I'd continued to see her from time to time, staying in upscale hotels when in town and taking her to nice restaurants. It must have been a lovely break from her bleak situation when I was around. Lucky me!

But then I broke things off in the early spring of 2002 when I found out she had moved to NYC to be with her boyfriend, etc. and was still living with him (even if they were broken up). In looking back, that must have been more terrible for her than I'd imagined.

In any case, I did go on just now about the situation for her back then, because each 9/11 it blasts back into her consciousness and shakes her up.

She met Mr. S on Friday night because he had to juggle his schedule to accommodate her request to get together in advance of the planned Saturday night date. You may remember that I'd suggested this "pregame drinks" so she could get out of the way, in advance, any concerns over his still having a girlfriend and her still being married.

He, as expected, requested they get together closer to where he lives, for his convenience. I'd previously done some legwork and knew he likely lived in that area where she was staying in the hotel. That is to say, I offered the upgrade to this better hotel and of course she took it, But I also knew it was probably closer to him and it turns out I was correct

So it was a natural conversation when he asked for a location closer to him, she said that she was staying at this hotel. He, as I expected, then asked if they could meet up in the hotel bar. I'll point out this is the best hotel in that area and it has a vibrant bar/restaurant concept even in the present shutdown.

When she did meet up with him, she downplayed her look and was desirous of merely having the conversation, to set it up for the bigger Saturday night plan. She started with telling him she was really suffering from the 9/11 blues and also some family stuff with her mother getting on in age,including the mother's request to drive out to the family burial sites in a cemetery a ways away on Sunday.

Slenderwife thought Mr. S would be sensitive enough to take this setup from her as a request to keep things non-physical this first night.

I'll also point out that she and I had a conversation prior to her traveling, that acknowledged she can't see herself as the girl who jumps into the sack on the first night. Therefore, this pregame.

They did have some drinks, she limited herself to two glasses of wine, and the conversation was easy and fun, lasting a couple of hours (I assume until their covid-early closing time). Somewhere in the conversation she even asked if he was circumcised. Feeling groovy, they moved somewhere more comfortable (('ll have to ask if this all was in the bar, or in the elevator, or in her room) and began kissing and hugging. She was okay with that. I believe there must have been some groping and fondling outside of clothes (again, I'll have to ask this detail) and then he moved his hand into the front inside of her pants and started moving right to touching her pussy with his fingers. This was moving too fast for her and she wiggled away, and told him she was not ready for that on that first night.

His flub was that he acted like a child and said "you invited me here" and "you are being stingy" (her words). That was the last straw, not only had he not taken her early cues, he was acting entitled.

So she called off the Saturday date (not sure if right then or the following morning on her reflection of the night's events). He tried to call her twice, and she didn't want to engage or be talked into anything, so she didn't answer his calls. He then, a bit later, sent a nice text to her basically apologizing and hoping he didn't offend her, etc.

She has not responded to that text. She has asked me to assist her in preparing a reply, today (Saturday).

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I took this all in and acknowledged that this is her first step and I believe it was a great success:

- She conceptualized a plan and it came together

- He responded to her request to get together without hesitation and certainly finds her desirable

- She remained in charge of the encounter and when it went bad for her, she kept control and closed it up

- She enjoyed all of it until he became unexpectedly aggressive

I asked her if she could put in her mind that this was a success on all levels, especially as a first effort. That tt is an opportunity to reflect and learn for the future. She agreed.

I also noted to her that a goal of our pursuing this hotwife lifestyle together is to a) keep our marriage as paramount, and b) to really open up to each other our feelings and to have improved communication, expressing what we want, expect, and what works and does not. This increased communication skill would then also improve communication outside of the two of us. To wit:

If she had it to do over again. perhaps she could have avoided the unexpected outcome by more clearly communicating her expectations at the outset of that night. After mentioning early to Mr. S of her emotionally taxing day regarding 9/11 and also her mother thrusting a mortality conversation at her, she might have then followed with a clear "so this is why I want tonight to be just about conversation and getting to know each other better, knowing that we have bigger plans for a bigger time tomorrow night" or similar.
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She said at this point she is open to continuing with Mr. S as friends, but not give him any idea that they may try again in the future. She still thinks of him as very physically attractive. It turns out he does have the same girlfriend from last November, etc.

We then both agreed that this is a long game and not to overthink it at this point.

[slenderfish]

More posts soon on the following:

- Update on Mr. B for Saturday night

- Update on Mr. B position in Slenderwife's mind as a result of the Mr. S flub

- Update on reorienting her and our hotwife path after the Mr. S effort