It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[KevDi69]

I think we should all just relax, put our feet up, and let them sort out what they are going to do. After all, they have to live with their decisions, we don’t. Hopefully it will all work out for them.

[Wifesharing]

I think we should all just relax, put our feet up, and let them sort out what they are going to do. After all, they have to live with their decisions, we don’t. Hopefully it will all work out for them.

I think everyone is just giving thoughts. W770 through out this thread has expressed liking and wanting input and said he values all input he gets and that it is helpful and he is glad he has a sounding board.

You are right it is their choices and they have to live with them as they should, and they are armed with a lot more information then we have. I don't think anyone is suggesting there is right or wrong way to do this. Again W770 has encouraged the dialog.

[leander99]

sorry to read this amazing adventure is probably over but S definitely crossed lines he needs to respect

HE crossed line of civil morality but really they led him to believe that Lana was going to see him often behind W's back and was cheating on him often (and we have no idea what communication he got from Lana) With the information he was receiving I am not sure he crossed any lines that were ever set to him.

I believe just like the rest that he most likely would have been just as much a dick had he known, but we will never really know. We don't know how much he was only trying to give Lana what she wanted she clearly liked it and showed him she liked it just as much and that she wanted it.

I am not defending Shawn just pointing out there was never any clear lines drawn

You make some very valid points. Also Shawn does deserve to know at least what is going on.

I've called Shawn an asshole before and he really is. But that is also the role he was asked to play. Though he was eager to take it on.

I think Shawn and Lana can still continue maybe for a little while. But the dynamics should change. W770 and Lana's marriage must be respected by everyone involved.

It's good to see Lana can disconnect. That's really good.

[TheHammer]

Lana needs to be the sole one to communicate to Shawn that she are ending it. If W and Lana do it together than Shawn is going to see it as driven by W and keep trying to resume with Lana.

[william70]

Let's face it shawn was used. Which is fine if he were aware of situation. He wasn't. I doubt if he will ever be able to trust them again. Should they get back together, he might try to hurt the marriage just to spite them. W/Lana please stay clear of him and start over.

[Libertine_Lark]

Does anyone else think maybe that Shawn could have been reading w770’s posts here on this forum all along? I mean, if Lana has indeed expressed her love for him and there is a genuine level of intimacy between the two, it’s also entirely possible that she could have shared w770’s posts. Such a conversation certainly would have served to prime/explain why she ended up in this situation to begin with. It could have also provided Shawn with the requisite background to effectively fit into the dom role he did — notably on the night of w770’s first-hand experience where the three met up at Lana and w770’s apartment. I mean… he did seem to understand the cuckold/hotwife dynamic more thoroughly than most 25 year olds I’ve known. Admittedly, this is just speculation based, in part, on third hand circumstantial evidence.

All that said, I’m of the mind that all of this will sort itself out naturally and without contrived redlines, boundaries, or hard stops. These sorts of red hot relationships have a time-to-live and shorting the natural progression leads to resentment down the road. After ten years of pleading from w770, Lana might very well end up with whip-lash after just a few weeks of actuating this fantasy. That’s a tough conclusion to a ten-year endeavor. And while we are all viewing this affair through a the narrow lens of an online forum, my inclination would be to let the affair run its natural course and let Lana decide what makes her happy.

Will

[william70]

She's in a marriage which consists of two people. There is no room for selfish acts. If W wants it then fine. The problem (unless this has changed) is that W will do anything she says without regard for their future. IMHO.

[Seekingmore12]

No matter how hot the sex is, if a man doesn't respect you, your husband, and your marriage.....and is only out for what he can get, is it really worth it?
There are better options out there!

Do you seriously believe that any of these men actually "respect" the husband? Sure, they may claim that to the wife and husband, but not in reality.

I am sorry and have no intention to stir up crap, or thread hijack, I can tell you from real world experience, I have tremendous respect for the husbands who support their wives with love and encouragement. It’s actually one of the things I look for in couples.

Maybe it’s just me, however I doubt it.

[Upindown]

I do wonder (and did for a while) if one of the biggest reasons Lana said "no" for so many years was because she always suspected she might fall for the guy whoever he was... Maybe worth probing before you go any further W.

But anyway, my main point here, as I can be a scheming bas*a*d at times... It's clear Shawn was no "bull" as he didn't play that game, wanted Lana for himself, and was striving to go down the road of breaking W and Lana and their relationship. I wonder if Eric would do the same, or would he understand the game a bit more? There would be an utterly delicious irony in this if Lana and W found what they needed in Eric, and in doing so it broke Shawn's alpha status in his group of friends.

Not suggesting anything happens with Eric just to engineer this of course, but jeez talk about sweet revenge.

[setv4]

Let's face it shawn was used. Which is fine if he were aware of situation. He wasn't. I doubt if he will ever be able to trust them again. Should they get back together, he might try to hurt the marriage just to spite them. W/Lana please stay clear of him and start over.

I do not think Shawn was 'used', I think in the beginning that he saw an opportunity to bang a really hot married babe, w/o any plan to take her for his own.
I also think that early on Lana also saw it as an opportunity to bang a hot, well hung younger guy, while turning on both her and her husband.

Then things changed very quickly, I think that Shawn changed what he wanted from this hotwife arrangement.
What changed was that Shawn saw just how much Lana was turned on fucking him, and how much it turned him on, he decided to change the equation.

He decided to get Lana so into craving his big cock so much that he would be able to take her away from her husband, seeing it as a challenge and a conquest. Him being the Superstud that could get a (any) married woman, to give up their wedding vows completely, not just giving up their Pussy but their Heart as well. There is no way of knowing whether he would have eventually wanted to married Lana or not, but that union probably wouldn't have lasted in the long term.

It's up to you both, if you want to have a conversation with him, over what changed in the 'arrangement ' between the 3 of you, but maybe it is best to just text him that things just aren't working out the way You and Lana wanted them to, or just tell him that things have run their course.

May You and Lana have a Safe and Happy New Year...
...make it a Hot Love Fest between 2 married Lovers this long weekend, and reaffirm your Love and Lust for each other!!

[w770]

Hey guys, I'll try to address the questions and points made today say some point this weekend, but we just checked into the hotel and about to take the dogs out and explore.

I wanted her to be completed honest with me with everything so the best way to get her to do that is to tell her that whatever she says will be met will no judgment. So given this context, she admitted that she misses him and misses the way his cock makes her body feel. The orgasm he gave her when in missionary and they both confessed their love was the hardest he's ever made her cum apparently.

It hurts to hear but I'm glad she feels at ease in telling me the truth.

Time to walk these dogs.

[mundyman]

So, so, so many opinions and hot takes on the adventures of W, Lana, and Shawn…….
My two cents from afar;
This started as nothing more than sport fucking. W always had the itch to have Lana cuck him. W got off on the idea of Lana fucking another and had the curiosity of trying the cuckold lifestyle and experiencing the humiliation and angst that it entails.
Lana harbored the need to reconnect with a large dick that could satisfy her like W never can. This was never explicitly stated but given how she gave herself to Shawn and the way she reacted to his cock her need was pretty obvious. I suppose for Lana, once she went big, with English guy and whoever else in her past, she never lost the craving for a big dick to please her pussy and body.
Their codependency allowed them to overlook red flags and dangers to their relationship as they encouraged each other to push the envelope and continue on with the dominant Shawn. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead never was a truer sentiment.
Enter Shawn, a convenient fuck buddy with a huge cock, dominant attitude and the ability to push all of Lana’s submissive buttons.
However, along the way the stunt cock caught some serious feelings for Lana and Lana rode a tsunami of NRE. She also withheld facts and things that Shawn and her did without W’s knowledge. That is a serious transgression that W and Lana are going to have to workout and reconcile.
Enter the confused (guilty?) feelings of Lana as she and Shawn professed their love for each other.
Now from the distance we all have from these three, none of us will ever know the depth nor the seriousness of Lana’s profession of love for Shawn. I get the feeling that could be a truth that remains in her heart forever. However, as most of us in the lifestyle will attest, things are often said in the heat of the moment that upon later reflection are not real truth, but truth in the moment. Please refer to Des31’s thread of his wife’s relationships with her fuck buddies and how often they speak of love of each other or more specifically the love of what physical feelings and connection they have with each other. Yet their relationship is as strong and committed as ever. In fact they both revel, and some angst, in the admission that “fucks others for the both of them, but mostly for her”.
I’m sure Lana regrets saying it because she has yet to fully process her feelings. Somewhere along the way, maybe this weekend, Lana and W will come to a better understanding of exactly what she meant and how it reflects on their relationship.
W and Lana are incredible newbies to this lifestyle and are moving at light speed through boundaries, hurdles, and experiences that many couples in this forum take years, and perhaps counseling, to process and get through. I have no doubt they will come out the other side of this stronger and more committed to their relationship. Whether they continue with Shawn, someone else, or never do this again, I strongly doubt that, they will have a better plan to deal with feelings and attachments.
Shawn on the other hand no doubt felt his understanding of love with Lana and NRE as well. In other words he saw her as an object to have, control, and contain. Not love in the true sense, but a love of what Lana did for him. Lana was an unbelievable lover, the best he’s ever had, his friends desired her as well and no doubt told him how lucky he was to have her. But Shawn probably has no real idea of what it means to be in a real adult relationship. I really think that when he goes back to Cali he will miss Lana as long as it takes him to find his next target. Whether that is a 20 something surfer girl, or chick at the gym, or some lonely hot neglected wife who will also jump on that big dick he will find his next ‘love’. I’m sure always comparing her to the incomparable Lana, but fucking the shit out of them non the less.
When he returns to the right coast, or she/they go out to Cali, I’m sure they will reconnect for old times sake. Perhaps a wiser more mature Shawn who will better understand his place and perhaps be better able to include W and help push all of W’s buttons as well.
Will they currently play with Shawn again? It’s my feeling that they will. He’s too convenient. He’s close in the same building, he meets Lana physical requirements, and definitely pushes all of Lana’s and W’s buttons. And he’s leaving within the month. As many of us know firsthand, it is really hard to find a dependable Bull who pushes many of your buttons and fills most requirements.
I really think W and Lana come clean with this kid and explain the situation that they both knew pretty much everything from the get go. Yes, Lana lied and with held key info. Her and W must come to terms with that. But, I think once you spell it out to Shawn that they both want him to fuck the shit out of Lana, treat her like his little fuck doll, have threesomes with her, expose her in front of his friends, fuck her while his friends are over so they can her you take her to pound town, that they both get off on that, as long as there is an understanding of boundaries and where this can go and definitely NOT go, how could he resist.
He still gets to fuck the hottest piece of ass he’s ever had.
Good luck to W and Lana as they continue their journey through this lifestyle.
Whatever happens I look forward to hearing what has happened next in this adventure of W’s and Lana’s.

[william70]

I believe that this may well be my last post on this thread. I've said how I feel and have given my opinions. It's apparent to me that W has no intension of "fighting for his wife or his marriage.
I will continue reading with interest. Good luck to all 3 of you.

[2inUPMichigan]

No matter how hot the sex is, if a man doesn't respect you, your husband, and your marriage.....and is only out for what he can get, is it really worth it?
There are better options out there!

Do you seriously believe that any of these men actually "respect" the husband? Sure, they may claim that to the wife and husband, but not in reality.

I'm guessing from that comment that you didn't respect your wife's 1st husband when you were the 3rd?

[mundyman]

Hey guys, I'll try to address the questions and points made today say some point this weekend, but we just checked into the hotel and about to take the dogs out and explore.

I wanted her to be completed honest with me with everything so the best way to get her to do that is to tell her that whatever she says will be met will no judgment. So given this context, she admitted that she misses him and misses the way his cock makes her body feel. The orgasm he gave her when in missionary and they both confessed their love was the hardest he's ever made her cum apparently.

It hurts to hear but I'm glad she feels at ease in telling me the truth.

Time to walk these dogs.

But is this love of the person, or love of what he does to and for her physically?
Did she cum so hard because of the emotional, soulful connection, or because it turned her on so much that her big dick lover professed his love for her and it was a naughty, kinky turn on?
Did she ever answer if she wants to, pursue these feelings of love for Shawn?
As in where does he now stand in comparison to her relationship to you? Is he more important to her, does he take up more of her heart than you do?
There are things that I love that people do for me, but I don’t truly love the person.
You two obviously still have much more to discuss.
Good luck.

[tojanman]

I’m glad to see W and Lana taking the time to reconnect. As they are focusing on each other, we probably wont hear from til after the weekend at least.

[mundyman]

I’ve got to think they are having some difficult and emotional conversations right now.
Also, does anyone think he caved and let Lana fuck Shawn before going to her family’s NYE festivities?

[Mr1SexyGILF]

I’ve got to think they are having some difficult and emotional conversations right now.
Also, does anyone think he caved and let Lana fuck Shawn before going to her family’s NYE festivities?

Agreed on the tough conversations. The silence of this thread last night was deafening. I don’t think it had remained inactive for 12+ hours since w770’s first post on 11/25.

They have shown amazing character and commitment every previous time this roller coaster ride has begun to spiral out of control. I will be disappointed if the NYE fuck happened.

Mr GILF

[Mr1SexyGILF]

Double Post, Sorry

Mr GILF

[Upindown]

I believe that this may well be my last post on this thread. I've said how I feel and have given my opinions. It's apparent to me that W has no intension of "fighting for his wife or his marriage.
I will continue reading with interest. Good luck to all 3 of you.

It's been a fascinating journey, a tumultuous white water raft ride where there's one commanding the raft who's a loose cannon with no experience of rafting but still wants to go barreling down the canyon as fast as possible, one who's on the raft who was always reluctant to go on a raft but is now also barreling down that canyon with enthusiasm and showing real signs of not wanting to get off the raft, and one on the bank watching the raft who has increasingly interrupted views of the raft, isn't sure if he should stop the raft, and is increasingly realising he may not be capable of doing so anyway.

As the waters have got wilder and choppier, some of the other spectators have got less excited about the wild ride and more concerned that disaster beckons... It's a perfectly reasonable bit of thinking of a spectator to bow out at this point.

A week or two ago there were undoubtedly many people wanking themselves silly over this thread. There will be an awful lot less still doing so.

[Aynsley]

My .02

No matter how convenient or hot they are, not all men are cut out to be the 3rd.

Any man who breaks the rules he was given or is disrespectful towards a husband or marriage (without prior agreement in place) is not a good match.

Any man who tries to sexually manipulate the hotwife (without her prior consent) has stepped over the line and no longer deserves her time and attention.

No matter how hot the sex is, if a man doesn't respect you, your husband, and your marriage.....and is only out for what he can get, is it really worth it?
There are better options out there!

While I agree with 2inUPMichigan, I'd like to add that Shawn is still a novice at being 'the third'. Now, he could 'get it' with practice
(Iris third lover was very experienced and the first two had been married) OR he may not (not all single guys do).
That said, 'the rules are the rules', and Shawn trying to 'split off' Lana from you
is a major infraction.

Early on (as we were working out our entry into the LS), Iris explained to me that long ago, she had mentally figured-out/knew that there's
a separation between 'sex' and 'love', and since then, I've basically been told 'same' from numerous other HWs. Lana does appear to get
this important distinction (I think she just got 'lost' in that particular moment and confused Shawn).

*side note* despite that separation, later in out LS adventure, one of Iris' lovers was a mid-40's divorced guy that basically fell in love
with Iris, and while she told me, it was a challenge for me, but we had already been through some much in our LS adventure that
I managed to keep my cool; I don't know how I would have handled it at the early stage that you're in, w770.
(ps - the lover, Adam, eventually accepted the reality that Iris was telling him, and he faded away.)

Anyway, if you two continue in the LS, THIS will NOT be the only hiccup you will have. To me, being in the LS presents unexpected
challenges and your success in navigating them ultimately creates a stronger bond.

Congratulations w770 on an incredible month of Dec., have a GREAT Time NYE, and thanks again for sharing.

[Jujube]

I think there are ways to let this continue. I think, deep down, you both want and need it to. Keep in mind, it’s only a couple more weeks until Shawn goes back to California. Lana has a deep craving for him, both physically and now emotionally. I think it’s also safe to say that W770 is addicted to the thing in its entirety as well. I know it sounds trite and ultimately unknowable, but if W can be made sure that Lana won’t leave him for Shawn, the game can still be on. I think the #1 rule is Shawn cannot take Lana secretly anymore, and it can only happen if W is there, albeit in another part of the house. That way, emotional bonding is more under control, and W can get his humiliation by eating her cream pies between sessions.That would keep the door open for perhaps this summer and certainly next year. I just think it would be a shame to just walk away from a perfect situation for you 2.

[Jujube]

I think there are ways to let this continue. I think, deep down, you both want and need it to. Keep in mind, it’s only a couple more weeks until Shawn goes back to California. Lana has a deep craving for him, both physically and now emotionally. I think it’s also safe to say that W770 is addicted to the thing in its entirety as well. I know it sounds trite and ultimately unknowable, but if W can be made sure that Lana won’t leave him for Shawn, the game can still be on. I think the #1 rule is Shawn cannot take Lana secretly anymore, and it can only happen if W is there, albeit in another part of the house. That way, emotional bonding is more under control, and W can get his humiliation by eating her cream pies between sessions.That would keep the door open for perhaps this summer and certainly next year. I just think it would be a shame to just walk away from a perfect situation for you 2.

[Jujube]

Sorry, I’m not sure why this printed twice!

[Jujube]

Must be the review/post thing