It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[leander99]

I would suggest no more visits to his house, let him come to yours. Also stop playing the helpless cuckold for now. If they can be together, it is because she has your approval. Hopefully this changes the dynamics a bit.

Lastly, if she feels "addicted" then either go cold turkey, or slowly ween her of. Do not intruduce more kinks or throw more fuel on the fire. You cannot cure an addict by giving them heroine.

[Topnotch]

Hey just have fun. Be you...yall got this

[setv4]

Be careful, hope things work out the way You want them to go...
...and that things don't go South.

Have Fun, but be Smart and protect your marriage to Lana at all cost.

[leander99]

What does Lana think should happen next? How badly does she really want to keep seeing Shawn? Can she handle it?

What does she want to happen? What consequences will there be?

What does she need from w770 to make that happen?

[Wifesharing]

Be careful, hope things work out the way You want them to go...
...and that things don't go South.

Have Fun, but be Smart and protect your marriage to Lana at all cost.

Yes I will wait to hear what W770 wants to share with us about their conversations before making to many suggestions.

Really curious to know what Lana has revealed that W didn’t know also curious about what she has said about needing Shawn fir the time left. It may be that she needs it and W doesn’t have the option of denying her this. Lana has her own mind so it could be that W has to figure out how to be involved or it’s over he might not have the choice of a hard stop. Now because we don’t know yet the details of their discussions yet we just do not know enough to say what is a good idea or not.

I do think the trust has been broken and it needs work but I doubt it can be fully fixed until after Shawn is no longer a option .

[slenderfish]

Lana is addicted to the orgasms. She has associated it with Shawn, and connected with him emotionally. He has pushed her to this association with his holding back, etc. He played into what he believes W770 and Lana wanted. But of course Shawn is about what Shawn wants, first and foremost.

She can get these orgasms from someone else.

The challenge is, as some on here have observed, for Lana to separate the orgasms from an emotional, loving connection that she fell into a destructive habit of hiding. And W770 supported the hiding as "hot" or similar, which Lana may have taken in the wrong way and misused.

She had massive orgasms from big cocks in the past. There are other big cocks around for a woman like Lana.

Yes, they had a powerful first effort but the foundation (cheating, sneaking) proved to be the undoing. Not sure that can be reversed.

Communicate, learn from the experience, keep what worked best eliminate that which did not.

Continuing exclusively with Shawn is too risky, in my opinion. Tough, if not impossible, to change what has been established.

If Eric is still available, perhaps that's the gift in the corner, and if Shawn can manage Eric's involvement with Lana, then perhaps Shawn can be integrated back in, from time to time.

But the least risky approach, while continuing in the lifestyle, would be to do a full reset and start with another guy, when you are both ready.

Happy New Year to Lana and W770!

[FadermanL20]

770, a couple of questions:

1. The night you watched Lana and S, The ambush in your living room...Who orchestrated that? Definitely not what was supposed to happen.

2. S giving you the hate stare during. Why? Did Lana tell him to do it?

[Upindown]

Continuing exclusively with Shawn is too risky, in my opinion. Tough, if not impossible, to change what has been established.

Tend to agree, particularly given something W770 has said:

We're at her parents place right now and it's been a very emotional and a difficult time

This is basically an admission that emotional and relationship damage has been done.
I'm not sure that the tool that caused the damage is the best tool to repair it with.

[knight4princess]

Yes, they had a powerful first effort but the foundation (cheating, sneaking) proved to be the undoing. Not sure that can be reversed.

One of the reasons that my own Hotwife / cuck relationship seems to work well is its foundation, which was built on trust over a period of years. In the case of w770 and Lana, it has been built on deception over a period of only a few weeks. I think they both like some of the hot things that have happened, including the discovery of Lana's need for a better lover. There's no reason they can't have the best of what they've found with another guy. I'd say they should create a solid foundation and proceed carefully in the future.

[w770]

What does Lana think should happen next? How badly does she really want to keep seeing Shawn? Can she handle it?

What does she want to happen? What consequences will there be?

What does she need from w770 to make that happen?

Again, thank you for all of the well wishes and words of advice and encouragement. Lana and I read over the last few pages and she wanted to answer a few of the questions and then I'll give an update.

What does she think should happen next and how badly does she want to keep seeing Shawn:
She wanted to answer this one specifically because it wraps up a lot of the past few pages of comments as far as what people have suggested. We're in agreement that the comments of her being in love with Shawn was entirely something said in the moment as he kept her on the precipice of an orgasm until she repeated it back to her. We also both agree that if she can honestly reflect on herself and say that her emotions aren't involved, sex with Shawn can be something she (and myself) can handle. In terms of what she wants and the consequences: Physically, she wants him as she's said that they have a sexual chemistry that is undeniable. But she's also stated that she won't risk harming the marriage for him. So if her feelings not in the heat of moment become involved at all, she won't proceed.

What does she need from me to make being with Shawn possible again? She wants to make sure that I am okay emotionally before they are together again and if I feel negative in anyway about it, then I can pull the plug at any time.

770, a couple of questions:

1. The night you watched Lana and S, The ambush in your living room...Who orchestrated that? Definitely not what was supposed to happen.

2. S giving you the hate stare during. Why? Did Lana tell him to do it?

Who orchestrated the "ambush" - I asked her and she said it was Shawn's idea. She tried to take it to the bedroom earlier, but he told her to keep sucking his cock on the couch.

About the staring down - She said that she did not tell him to do it, and in fact, she didn't really know it was happening, especially to the extent he was. I think it was definitely Shawn's idea and he really liked the idea of intimidating me while she was cumming on his cock.

Update: We took the block on his number off and the flood of texts came pouring in. 29 in total. He detailed a party he had with his buddies who were all upset that Lana wasn't there as they wanted to see her and possibly get the Eric treatment later. He also made out with another girl at midnight. I asked her how this made her feel and she said she didn't feel anything. No jealousy or territorial tendencies that she always gets with me whenever she sees other women talking to me. This was the biggest thing for me because it validates her assertion that her emotions aren't involved. Shawn also mentioned that he didn't fuck the girl, and ended up going to bed alone, as in his words, could only think of her. So it may appear that his feelings are involved but not hers. He was also apologetic in his texts, telling her that he never meant to hurt our marriage, but he needed to tell her how he felt that night he told her that he loved her. Honestly, I think he's just a 25 year old kid that is infatuated with the hot neighbor. When I was 9, I thought I was in love with my gym teacher. I think it's the same thing.

She didn't respond to any of his texts and we sat around just laughing at his messages. We still haven't made any decisions yet in terms of timelines of when she'll talk to him again and what exactly she'll say. It will likely be at the end of the week and she'll tell him that I've known about everything. Where it goes from there, she's not sure. We want to basically observe our feelings every step of the way, if there's any negative emotions, and assess whether there's a risk we're not seeing to the marriage.

Thanks again for all of the messages. Lana noted how supportive everyone was and although she doesn't agree with everything said, she thinks it's great for me to have a place to go to talk about the craziest month of our lives without too much judgment.

We're just going to spend the rest of the day hanging out with each other, possibly go down to the beach, gym later, cook dinner, etc. It feels good to do the normal things. Also since she unblocked him, Shawn's texted her 4 times. He's missing her a lot.

[jasmineb87]

33 texts without response, when Lana has told him to cool off.. including telling her he kissed someone else.. it sounds like he's trying to make her jealous to get her to run back into his arms. Personally I'd see that as a problem because he's not shown any respect there for what she's said. That said, you do need to set some 3-way ground rules. He obviously doesn't understand the situation as it is (as you and Lana do... and all us on here) - He doesn't know he was for the most part planned into your play.

I really hope you can find an amicable way forward with Shawn, because he clearly excites Lana, but it needs to be with the enhancement of your relationship first and foremost. Hopefully you will choose to keep us all updated still, because I have really enjoyed reading this.

I also hope you can find some 'post Shawn' fun to have.

Enjoy each other

[mundyman]

Good for you two!!
Happy New Year!!

[Mattmattiass]

This seems better. Great

[FLR_fan]

I think the best thing right now is for Lana to go over and surrender to him. It would be wrong at all levels and be the biggest mind fuck ever. I don’t think you guys are risking your marriage at all. Lana is clearly too smart for this. I think she should deny you for the rest of the time Shawn is here and cuck you really hard.

[leander99]

The reason why this forum turned a bit dark was due to Lana confessing she 'loves Shawn' in the heats of passion, then a cryptic post by w770, and then a sudden silence, even if it was New Years Eve.

Turns out there was no trouble, it was really just New Years Eve. Happy to hear that.

Have a great 2023, w770 and Lana! And everyone else too, obviously.

[parmaham55]

w770, HNY and good luck to you and Lana. It sounds like you’re making the right moves for you. Good that you opened up communication with Shawn after that sudden block. He would have been raw about it too, hence the bite back over the midnight make out (if that actually really happened).

Sounds like you’re both handling it all well (although slightly uncomfortable about the laughing at his texts), and I hope your emotional rollercoaster settles enough to have him back into your lives for the next few weeks before he goes. It will help Lana reach closure on this - and enjoy the ride! and you too w770 - could be some hot moments to be observing.

I hope any lingering doubts and paranoia about Lana’s earlier 'half-truth' about that first time or any other 'mis-statements' have been fully cleared up and put behind you both now. That was always the risk of inviting the 'cheating game'. Too near the edge too soon. Time to fully trust and move forward together.

The balance and dynamic has shifted dramatically back to you. Control restored. Time to enjoy. Time to explain all to Shawn, show your marriage is sound and he is no threat, then enjoy the orgasms and have fun.

[hiki]

If you are still considering having Shawn fuck Lana, Eric might be a good means to confront Shawn's possessiveness. Have him invite Eric and then have him send Eric up to your place first. Shawn can only continue with Lana after she has had sex with Eric. Would this dilute Shawn's position enough to soothe your emotional distress with how intense S/L relationship became?

[w770]

w770, HNY and good luck to you and Lana. It sounds like you’re making the right moves for you. Good that you opened up communication with Shawn after that sudden block. He would have been raw about it too, hence the bite back over the midnight make out (if that actually really happened).

Sounds like you’re both handling it all well (although slightly uncomfortable about the laughing at his texts), and I hope your emotional rollercoaster settles enough to have him back into your lives for the next few weeks before he goes. It will help Lana reach closure on this - and enjoy the ride! and you too w770 - could be some hot moments to be observing.

I hope any lingering doubts and paranoia about Lana’s earlier 'half-truth' about that first time or any other 'mis-statements' have been fully cleared up and put behind you both now. That was always the risk of inviting the 'cheating game'. Too near the edge too soon. Time to fully trust and move forward together.

The balance and dynamic has shifted dramatically back to you. Control restored. Time to enjoy. Time to explain all to Shawn, show your marriage is sound and he is no threat, then enjoy the orgasms and have fun.

Thanks! Although I should've been more clear. We were laughing at his texts that were clearly intended to be funny. He can be a goofy guy and was sending her cheesy lyrics to songs about being crazy for her and following those up with over the top song lyrics like The Thong Song.

Anyway, we just made love. It started with her giving me a blow job on the couch in the same spot where she worshipped his Shawn's cock a few weeks ago. Then we took it to the bedroom and I used the toy on her. I told her that I was fine if she was thinking of him, to which she responded by grabbing the toy from me and fucked her pussy with it. The sounds of her moaning and heavy breathing was so hot, I had to force my hand off of my dick to keep from cumming. Then as she approached orgasm, she started moaning Shawn's name over and over as she arched her back and I stared at her juices coat the toy. She then took the lube from the nightstand, squirted a bit on her fingers, and inserted it into herself. I got on top of her and we made love with "his" cum inside her. When she sensed that I was close, she looked me in the eyes and told me, "he fucks so much better than you."

Maybe it was bad idea to have sex this early as it kinda kills the adrenaline needed for the gym.

Oh well. It was worth it.

[w770]

If you are still considering having Shawn fuck Lana, Eric might be a good means to confront Shawn's possessiveness. Have him invite Eric and then have him send Eric up to your place first. Shawn can only continue with Lana after she has had sex with Eric. Would this dilute Shawn's position enough to soothe your emotional distress with how intense S/L relationship became?

You know, we haven't even really thought of Eric too much. But this is an interesting idea. I'll bring it up. Thanks!

[TheHammer]

Anyway, we just made love. It started with her giving me a blow job on the couch in the same spot where she worshipped his Shawn's cock a few weeks ago. Then we took it to the bedroom and I used the toy on her. I told her that I was fine if she was thinking of him, to which she responded by grabbing the toy from me and fucked her pussy with it. The sounds of her moaning and heavy breathing was so hot, I had to force my hand off of my dick to keep from cumming. Then as she approached orgasm, she started moaning Shawn's name over and over as she arched her back and I stared at her juices coat the toy. She then took the lube from the nightstand, squirted a bit on her fingers, and inserted it into herself. I got on top of her and we made love with "his" cum inside her. When she sensed that I was close, she looked me in the eyes and told me, "he fucks so much better than you."

Maybe it was bad idea to have sex this early as it kinda kills the adrenaline needed for the gym.

Oh well. It was worth it.

What a hot slut! How big is her toy compared to Shawn?

[w770]

Anyway, we just made love. It started with her giving me a blow job on the couch in the same spot where she worshipped his Shawn's cock a few weeks ago. Then we took it to the bedroom and I used the toy on her. I told her that I was fine if she was thinking of him, to which she responded by grabbing the toy from me and fucked her pussy with it. The sounds of her moaning and heavy breathing was so hot, I had to force my hand off of my dick to keep from cumming. Then as she approached orgasm, she started moaning Shawn's name over and over as she arched her back and I stared at her juices coat the toy. She then took the lube from the nightstand, squirted a bit on her fingers, and inserted it into herself. I got on top of her and we made love with "his" cum inside her. When she sensed that I was close, she looked me in the eyes and told me, "he fucks so much better than you."

Maybe it was bad idea to have sex this early as it kinda kills the adrenaline needed for the gym.

Oh well. It was worth it.

What a hot slut! How big is her toy compared to Shawn?

It's about an inch shorter but just as thick. Sometimes I'll just stare at it and compare it to mine. It's ridiculous.

[parmaham55]

So it’s wonderful that Lana is reading this thread too, hopefully that is helpful to you both and the diverse opinions help in the way you deal with events.

I know this view is controversial for such a punchy, lifestyle-based forum as this but please spare a thought for a cocky but vulnerable 25-year-old whose only mistake it seems is that he’s fallen in love with a gorgeous magnetic hot married woman who fucks like an angel and he’ll no doubt never, ever experience again - these events will be in his memory bank forever. He may have been clumsy at times but he, and his emotions, deserve to be more than a fuck-toy. We only know his thoughts and emotions through third-party eyes. Perhaps it’s time to be #BeKind (for people in my country, #RIPCarolineFlack). For everyone reading, please don’t destroy a person.

Sorry to be preachy.

[whenwillshe]

As some havesaid, I think hard stop until full disclosure.
He is too fragile and a bit of a wild card without that

[slenderfish]

I'm glad to hear that Shawn is not fully out of the picture, at least from the position of a reader and follower of this story. Promises of new chapters ahead!

But I do think it's risky.

But, Duh! The risk is inherent in all of this. W770 embraces the risk, which amps the reward.

[Wifesharing]

I'm glad to hear that Shawn is not fully out of the picture, at least from the position of a reader and follower of this story. Promises of new chapters ahead!

But I do think it's risky.

But, Duh! The risk is inherent in all of this. W770 embraces the risk, which amps the reward.

This is how I feel.