It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[w770]

As some havesaid, I think hard stop until full disclosure.
He is too fragile and a bit of a wild card without that

It's part of what we're thinking when she reaches back out to him later in the week. I never thought of him as a fragile personality but when giving it some thought, it does make sense that he is, and the alpha demeanor is a façade.

So it’s wonderful that Lana is reading this thread too, hopefully that is helpful to you both and the diverse opinions help in the way you deal with events.

I know this view is controversial for such a punchy, lifestyle-based forum as this but please spare a thought for a cocky but vulnerable 25-year-old whose only mistake it seems is that he’s fallen in love with a gorgeous magnetic hot married woman who fucks like an angel and he’ll no doubt never, ever experience again - these events will be in his memory bank forever. He may have been clumsy at times but he, and his emotions, deserve to be more than a fuck-toy. We only know his thoughts and emotions through third-party eyes. Perhaps it’s time to be #BeKind (for people in my country, #RIPCarolineFlack). For everyone reading, please don’t destroy a person.

Sorry to be preachy.

I looked up Caroline Flack and I agree. A little kindness goes a long way.

[w770]

I'm glad to hear that Shawn is not fully out of the picture, at least from the position of a reader and follower of this story. Promises of new chapters ahead!

But I do think it's risky.

But, Duh! The risk is inherent in all of this. W770 embraces the risk, which amps the reward.

I'm glad to hear that Shawn is not fully out of the picture, at least from the position of a reader and follower of this story. Promises of new chapters ahead!

But I do think it's risky.

But, Duh! The risk is inherent in all of this. W770 embraces the risk, which amps the reward.

This is how I feel.

Well we're not sure that he'll be onboard after Lana makes contact with him again and goes over the new boundaries and rules. But yes you are correct in that I embrace risk. Lana has usually been my counterweight with being more risk averse and we balance each other out nicely.

[shawnm]

Just noting down a few things that has made Lana totally become addicted to Shawn. Add if anything is missing:

- Very huge and long cock.
- Very rough pounding. Almost destroying her pussy each time.
- Height advantage, so Lana can be on her knees to give him perfect sexy blowjob.
- Lifting Lana up like a ragdoll and fucking her in standing position while she is lifted up. Bet she has not done the same with W.
- Humiliation of W by Shawn, which indirectly leads to adrenaline rush and hence better orgasms.
- Dirty talks by Shawn.
- Midnight fucks while W was sleeping, leading to feeling of Very intense secret rendezvous, just like first time sex during teenage.
- Compliments from Shawn's group. Which lady wouldn't love so much attention, especially when it is around sexuality.
- Extreme domination and as Lana is submissive, it heightens her pleasure multifold.
- Sudden unplanned fucks sometimes.
- Tons of orgasms in each session + ability of Shawn to fuck her for 2 to 3 more times.

Anything I missed?

[vim32]

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[william70]

Could you please review with us what all the new rules and boundaries are? Please.

[Tryn]

I agree that Shawn needs to be given some rules of engagement. However, it’s also likely that giving him some direction on how to “play” his role could also be useful. He’s young and has never been married or in a very long term relationship. So he can’t put himself in either of your shoes. He’s going to want to keep what he’s had, so leverage that by coaching him on how to a part of the fun, in addition to the rules of the fun. It might allow Lana to be comfortable in pushing boundaries or help Shawn to understand how he can best open her up (literally and figuratively).

[leander99]

In my experience alpha demeanor is usually a facade.
People who brag are often just wannabe's. Real masculine energy is relaxed, and men who are the real deal do not need to prove themselves.

[jasmineb87]

I don’t see it being long before these rules are laid out and Lana can get Shawn inside her again.

[w770]

Could you please review with us what all the new rules and boundaries are? Please.

Well in addition to the boundaries we already established, such as no interacting with me or telling me what to do, we're also keen on establishing the rule that I will have to be there for every encounter from now on. No more late night dates. It may also be wise to establish a rule on cooling it with the "love" talk. We're also thinking of creating a group chat that will be our only method of communication with him, but we're still mulling that one over. It's still a bit new so we're continuing to feel out what makes sense and reasonable at this point.

I agree that Shawn needs to be given some rules of engagement. However, it’s also likely that giving him some direction on how to “play” his role could also be useful. He’s young and has never been married or in a very long term relationship. So he can’t put himself in either of your shoes. He’s going to want to keep what he’s had, so leverage that by coaching him on how to a part of the fun, in addition to the rules of the fun. It might allow Lana to be comfortable in pushing boundaries or help Shawn to understand how he can best open her up (literally and figuratively).

We're constantly having to remind ourselves that he's only 25. It's easy to forget given his sexual experience and his looks, but when observing his behavior with the right lens, it becomes obvious that there's a maturity gap that some direction could help with.

Just noting down a few things that has made Lana totally become addicted to Shawn. Add if anything is missing:

- Very huge and long cock.
- Very rough pounding. Almost destroying her pussy each time.
- Height advantage, so Lana can be on her knees to give him perfect sexy blowjob.
- Lifting Lana up like a ragdoll and fucking her in standing position while she is lifted up. Bet she has not done the same with W.
- Humiliation of W by Shawn, which indirectly leads to adrenaline rush and hence better orgasms.
- Dirty talks by Shawn.
- Midnight fucks while W was sleeping, leading to feeling of Very intense secret rendezvous, just like first time sex during teenage.
- Compliments from Shawn's group. Which lady wouldn't love so much attention, especially when it is around sexuality.
- Extreme domination and as Lana is submissive, it heightens her pleasure multifold.
- Sudden unplanned fucks sometimes.
- Tons of orgasms in each session + ability of Shawn to fuck her for 2 to 3 more times.

Anything I missed?

He's also got model looks that are very disarming. She very much was taken aback when we shared the elevator with him about a month ago, before anything had even started, and I could tell she was forcing herself not to stare. He also has a deep and booming voice which when he whispers in her ear, she goes crazy for.

I don’t see it being long before these rules are laid out and Lana can get Shawn inside her again.

The plan is to just have a nice week as a normal married couple and she'll likely reach out to him by the end of the week to touch base. We just want to monitor our feelings as the week draws on so that we don't rush back into things. We never felt like our marriage was in trouble, but admittingly, the speed of our progression with this lifestyle was a bit rushed, much to everyone's warnings.

[leander99]

Don't make to many "rules". Rules are meant to be broken and they very often are. Good communication is more important, along with a reasonable management of expectations.

If she does break a few rules, don't make a fuss about it. Just keep both your heads straight and let things flow a little. If she goes to far (anything is possible) then talk it through and figure out how to be smarter next time.

The important thing is to keep communicating.

[gulfcpl]

Don't make to many "rules". Rules are meant to be broken and they very often are. Good communication is more important, along with a reasonable management of expectations.

If she does break a few rules, don't make a fuss about it. Just keep both your heads straight and let things flow a little. If she goes to far (anything is possible) then talk it through and figure out how to be smarter next time.

The important thing is to keep communicating.

Communication should apply to Shawn also. The communication between you two and Shawn has been lacking. All parties should know expectations at all times. Shawn hasn’t been told too many boundaries in all of this so how could he possibly know when he’s stepped out of line? He’s following Lana’s lead. She’s the one who has “sneaked” out at night. It’s hard for me to believe that Shawn really thinks W doesn’t know this.

[parmaham55]

Don't make to many "rules". Rules are meant to be broken and they very often are. Good communication is more important, along with a reasonable management of expectations.

If she does break a few rules, don't make a fuss about it. Just keep both your heads straight and let things flow a little. If she goes to far (anything is possible) then talk it through and figure out how to be smarter next time.

The important thing is to keep communicating.

Communication should apply to Shawn also. The communication between you two and Shawn has been lacking. All parties should know expectations at all times. Shawn hasn’t been told too many boundaries in all of this so how could he possibly know when he’s stepped out of line? He’s following Lana’s lead. She’s the one who has “sneaked” out at night. It’s hard for me to believe that Shawn really thinks W doesn’t know this.

What they said. Also if you’re going to trust Lana again, then trust her. Go for it! Communication will be better this time round. After meeting with Shawn and talking it all through, then you’ll be all the stronger to resume - even for them to meet one-one if Lana wanted to after perhaps an initial session when you are in the apartment. It’ll be on a different level. I agree about inevitable small rule breaks, don’t fuss. If I remember it right, it was you who encouraged the ‘cheating game’. So perhaps cancel that and find your kicks in the watching,the overhearing, the knowing, the denials and the cleanups. You have an envious crowd of well wishers backing you!

[FadermanL20]

770, This is going to sound a bit harsh; I certainly mean no disrespect to you, your wife, or to S.

The warnings I was posting were not intended to kill your experience, but rather to keep you out of a situation that you couldn't un-do.

I even related a story I heard about two ranchers discussing the dangers of not keeping a bull (as in male cow) under control.

It is very easy to bag on Lana or S for letting things get out of control-but the bottom line is YOU are the one accountable.

Responsibility can be delegated-Accountability cannot.

Example: A ship at sea, the captain is sleeping in his cabin. Something bad happens. Even though the watch officers made all the decisions, the captain is the one who's accountable. Why? It's his ship.

You were not present when the limits and boundaries discussion was being held. You delegated it to Lana.

If you want to be a cuckold in you role play, have at it. You're an adult.

But in real life, YOU are the man in the relationship. YOU bear the accountability. YOU need to be present in the discussion with S about how to proceed. Not through text messages. YOU need to meet with and confront S about what his role is, and what the consequences will be if he deviates. I would suggest an in person encounter-just you and him. Speak man to man. If he wants to lay down some attitude; fine. He's out.

The reason he disrespects you is that you've given him no reason to fear you. You're being a cuck in real life.

Do not be a cuck in real life. Man up.

We (my wife and I) wish all three of the utmost joy in your future encounter; this has been a great ride.

But dude-seriously-Take control of this. Don't be a cuck in your real life.

Just my .02. I know the cheerleaders will flame me for this post-I really don't care. I'm not a cuck and have no desire to be.

[Maddie_Hippychick]

I wonder if it wouldn’t be better for w770 to reach out to Shawn himself, to assert himself a bit. Maybe invite him out for a beer, explain the situation, full disclosure, set the rules/boundaries and then most importantly, later when Lana gets together with Shawn she backs up what w770 said. … just a thought.

[Maddie_Hippychick]

FedermanL20, you beat me to it. Lol

[gulfcpl]

770, This is going to sound a bit harsh; I certainly mean no disrespect to you, your wife, or to S.

The warnings I was posting were not intended to kill your experience, but rather to keep you out of a situation that you couldn't un-do.

I even related a story I heard about two ranchers discussing the dangers of not keeping a bull (as in male cow) under control.

It is very easy to bag on Lana or S for letting things get out of control-but the bottom line is YOU are the one accountable.

Responsibility can be delegated-Accountability cannot.

Example: A ship at sea, the captain is sleeping in his cabin. Something bad happens. Even though the watch officers made all the decisions, the captain is the one who's accountable. Why? It's his ship.

You were not present when the limits and boundaries discussion was being held. You delegated it to Lana.

If you want to be a cuckold in you role play, have at it. You're an adult.

But in real life, YOU are the man in the relationship. YOU bear the accountability. YOU need to be present in the discussion with S about how to proceed. Not through text messages. YOU need to meet with and confront S about what his role is, and what the consequences will be if he deviates. I would suggest an in person encounter-just you and him. Speak man to man. If he wants to lay down some attitude; fine. He's out.

The reason he disrespects you is that you've given him no reason to fear you. You're being a cuck in real life.

Do not be a cuck in real life. Man up.

We (my wife and I) wish all three of the utmost joy in your future encounter; this has been a great ride.

But dude-seriously-Take control of this. Don't be a cuck in your real life.

Just my .02. I know the cheerleaders will flame me for this post-I really don't care. I'm not a cuck and have no desire to be.

I can’t disagree.

[shawnm]

770, This is going to sound a bit harsh; I certainly mean no disrespect to you, your wife, or to S.

The warnings I was posting were not intended to kill your experience, but rather to keep you out of a situation that you couldn't un-do.

I even related a story I heard about two ranchers discussing the dangers of not keeping a bull (as in male cow) under control.

It is very easy to bag on Lana or S for letting things get out of control-but the bottom line is YOU are the one accountable.

Responsibility can be delegated-Accountability cannot.

Example: A ship at sea, the captain is sleeping in his cabin. Something bad happens. Even though the watch officers made all the decisions, the captain is the one who's accountable. Why? It's his ship.

You were not present when the limits and boundaries discussion was being held. You delegated it to Lana.

If you want to be a cuckold in you role play, have at it. You're an adult.

But in real life, YOU are the man in the relationship. YOU bear the accountability. YOU need to be present in the discussion with S about how to proceed. Not through text messages. YOU need to meet with and confront S about what his role is, and what the consequences will be if he deviates. I would suggest an in person encounter-just you and him. Speak man to man. If he wants to lay down some attitude; fine. He's out.

The reason he disrespects you is that you've given him no reason to fear you. You're being a cuck in real life.

Do not be a cuck in real life. Man up.

We (my wife and I) wish all three of the utmost joy in your future encounter; this has been a great ride.

But dude-seriously-Take control of this. Don't be a cuck in your real life.

Just my .02. I know the cheerleaders will flame me for this post-I really don't care. I'm not a cuck and have no desire to be.

Agree

[slowsteady]

770, This is going to sound a bit harsh; I certainly mean no disrespect to you, your wife, or to S.

The warnings I was posting were not intended to kill your experience, but rather to keep you out of a situation that you couldn't un-do.

I even related a story I heard about two ranchers discussing the dangers of not keeping a bull (as in male cow) under control.

It is very easy to bag on Lana or S for letting things get out of control-but the bottom line is YOU are the one accountable.

Responsibility can be delegated-Accountability cannot.

Example: A ship at sea, the captain is sleeping in his cabin. Something bad happens. Even though the watch officers made all the decisions, the captain is the one who's accountable. Why? It's his ship.

You were not present when the limits and boundaries discussion was being held. You delegated it to Lana.

If you want to be a cuckold in you role play, have at it. You're an adult.

But in real life, YOU are the man in the relationship. YOU bear the accountability. YOU need to be present in the discussion with S about how to proceed. Not through text messages. YOU need to meet with and confront S about what his role is, and what the consequences will be if he deviates. I would suggest an in person encounter-just you and him. Speak man to man. If he wants to lay down some attitude; fine. He's out.

The reason he disrespects you is that you've given him no reason to fear you. You're being a cuck in real life.

Do not be a cuck in real life. Man up.

We (my wife and I) wish all three of the utmost joy in your future encounter; this has been a great ride.

But dude-seriously-Take control of this. Don't be a cuck in your real life.

Just my .02. I know the cheerleaders will flame me for this post-I really don't care. I'm not a cuck and have no desire to be.

Well said! Unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears...

Proverbs 26:11 succinctly describes this individual.

[johnstevens555]

770, This is going to sound a bit harsh; I certainly mean no disrespect to you, your wife, or to S.

The warnings I was posting were not intended to kill your experience, but rather to keep you out of a situation that you couldn't un-do.

I even related a story I heard about two ranchers discussing the dangers of not keeping a bull (as in male cow) under control.

It is very easy to bag on Lana or S for letting things get out of control-but the bottom line is YOU are the one accountable.

Responsibility can be delegated-Accountability cannot.

Example: A ship at sea, the captain is sleeping in his cabin. Something bad happens. Even though the watch officers made all the decisions, the captain is the one who's accountable. Why? It's his ship.

You were not present when the limits and boundaries discussion was being held. You delegated it to Lana.

If you want to be a cuckold in you role play, have at it. You're an adult.

But in real life, YOU are the man in the relationship. YOU bear the accountability. YOU need to be present in the discussion with S about how to proceed. Not through text messages. YOU need to meet with and confront S about what his role is, and what the consequences will be if he deviates. I would suggest an in person encounter-just you and him. Speak man to man. If he wants to lay down some attitude; fine. He's out.

The reason he disrespects you is that you've given him no reason to fear you. You're being a cuck in real life.

Do not be a cuck in real life. Man up.

We (my wife and I) wish all three of the utmost joy in your future encounter; this has been a great ride.

But dude-seriously-Take control of this. Don't be a cuck in your real life.

Just my .02. I know the cheerleaders will flame me for this post-I really don't care. I'm not a cuck and have no desire to be.

Agree x6

[Mr JnJ Doe]

And this is why OP's stop posting.

[johnstevens555]

And this is why OP's stop posting.

No, I dont think so. OP Has consistently (as recently as yesterday) said that likes all of the feedback and comments. He as previously gone so far as to state that he even appreciates the rude comments although I dont think anyone been close to rude to him today. He probably has been quiet because there is not much to say.

[Mr1SexyGILF]

770, This is going to sound a bit harsh; I certainly mean no disrespect to you, your wife, or to S.

The warnings I was posting were not intended to kill your experience, but rather to keep you out of a situation that you couldn't un-do.

I even related a story I heard about two ranchers discussing the dangers of not keeping a bull (as in male cow) under control.

It is very easy to bag on Lana or S for letting things get out of control-but the bottom line is YOU are the one accountable.

Responsibility can be delegated-Accountability cannot.

Example: A ship at sea, the captain is sleeping in his cabin. Something bad happens. Even though the watch officers made all the decisions, the captain is the one who's accountable. Why? It's his ship.

You were not present when the limits and boundaries discussion was being held. You delegated it to Lana.

If you want to be a cuckold in you role play, have at it. You're an adult.

But in real life, YOU are the man in the relationship. YOU bear the accountability. YOU need to be present in the discussion with S about how to proceed. Not through text messages. YOU need to meet with and confront S about what his role is, and what the consequences will be if he deviates. I would suggest an in person encounter-just you and him. Speak man to man. If he wants to lay down some attitude; fine. He's out.

The reason he disrespects you is that you've given him no reason to fear you. You're being a cuck in real life.

Do not be a cuck in real life. Man up.

We (my wife and I) wish all three of the utmost joy in your future encounter; this has been a great ride.

But dude-seriously-Take control of this. Don't be a cuck in your real life.

Just my .02. I know the cheerleaders will flame me for this post-I really don't care. I'm not a cuck and have no desire to be.

+1 more

Mr GILF

[Upindown]

I think OP is more in control of the situation than you last bunch of guys think he is. I think OP knows he's dancing right at the edge of the stage but I think that's where he likes to dance and he's a better dancer than you think he is.

[Mr JnJ Doe]

770, This is going to sound a bit harsh; I certainly mean no disrespect to you, your wife, or to S.

The warnings I was posting were not intended to kill your experience, but rather to keep you out of a situation that you couldn't un-do.

I even related a story I heard about two ranchers discussing the dangers of not keeping a bull (as in male cow) under control.

It is very easy to bag on Lana or S for letting things get out of control-but the bottom line is YOU are the one accountable.

Responsibility can be delegated-Accountability cannot.

Example: A ship at sea, the captain is sleeping in his cabin. Something bad happens. Even though the watch officers made all the decisions, the captain is the one who's accountable. Why? It's his ship.

You were not present when the limits and boundaries discussion was being held. You delegated it to Lana.

If you want to be a cuckold in you role play, have at it. You're an adult.

But in real life, YOU are the man in the relationship. YOU bear the accountability. YOU need to be present in the discussion with S about how to proceed. Not through text messages. YOU need to meet with and confront S about what his role is, and what the consequences will be if he deviates. I would suggest an in person encounter-just you and him. Speak man to man. If he wants to lay down some attitude; fine. He's out.

The reason he disrespects you is that you've given him no reason to fear you. You're being a cuck in real life.

Do not be a cuck in real life. Man up.

We (my wife and I) wish all three of the utmost joy in your future encounter; this has been a great ride.

But dude-seriously-Take control of this. Don't be a cuck in your real life.

Just my .02. I know the cheerleaders will flame me for this post-I really don't care. I'm not a cuck and have no desire to be.

+1 more

Mr GILF

-1 Silent majority

[gesdell]

And this is why OP's stop posting.

We don't know what this particular OP wants. I do think that if the original posters do read the comments that they could get mental whiplash, as the comments can range from disapproval to trying to push them into more extreme measures I wonder what W770 wants or feels about the situation, what does he like? I think questions that are more concerned with his thoughts and feelings, without any bias or influence are more appropriate. Many of you have experience that he may benefit from so I understand you trying to stop something bad from happening, even if it never becomes true. I am amazed at how quickly his story has blown up so fast with so many responses and credit his writing skills in the retelling of what he is going through.