Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[slenderfish]

It's just a flesh wound. I think I'll go for a walk! (from Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

[whosbeensleeping]

It's just a flesh wound. I think I'll go for a walk! (from Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

[Parsifal]

Or the line from the plague scene that comes to mind, "I'm not dead yet!"

[bar9716]

So glad that you're back SF. This is my favorite thread to follow.

[superb101]

Welcome back! Looking forward to updates!

[BallSpanking]

Have SW and L had any further communication?

[slenderfish]

Have SW and L had any further communication?

Nothing of which I'm aware.

[slenderfish]

Shifting back to Mr. G. (trainer). SW has been having some back soreness and had to skip one or two spin classes over the prior several days. Her usual days with Mr. G are Wed and Fri. She skipped Wed and ended up pushing herself to meet up with him at his private studio on Friday.

When she returned, she told me she feels "much better" and that Mr. G's "magic hands" really relaxed her back. She said that rather than the usual workout with treadmill warm-up and free weights, etc. Mr. G instead assisted her with stretching and massage. She complained that her regular massage therapist is much inferior compared with Mr. G.

Then she smiled and shook her little spandex booty and said she is horny and wants to be sure we have some "naughty time" later or over the weekend.

[Long Lurker 34]

Sf - Glad to see you back being green.

[BallSpanking]

I suggest replacing her usual masseur with Mr G.

[TheHammer]

I suggest replacing her usual masseur with Mr G.

And buy a massage table.

[rooster444]

Maybe just ask her, "Did you bang Mr. G?" "I'd enjoy hearing about it. . . "

[slenderfish]

Maybe just ask her, "Did you bang Mr. G?" "I'd enjoy hearing about it. . . "

She knows I'm down for her getting frisky with Mr. G. I have to tread lightly on this specific point, because she has in the past become angry with me when I bring it up. She enjoys her longstanding training with him and "doesn't want to ruin it" in her words. Yet she does know my desire and from time to time will play to it, such as this past Friday.

I want to say to her "just fuck him already, I know he would go for it in a heartbeat" but she maintains he's a real gentleman, etc. But it could all be a cover story.

That's why I always look forward to seeing them interact in person. Looking for telltale signs, energy, avoiding being physically close to each other. They actually do act in this way (the telltale signs) to a degree but SW says it is because his wife is very suspicious and protective of any potential affair with a client. I suppose SW is the most obvious of all his clients (hottest).

I will, at the suggestion of some (from above), make a point that he's welcome to stop by the house to earn additional money by doing massage for SW.

[Ed_Vic]

Did we (or you) ever hear what happened with Mr. L on the night of her birthday? I know I was eagerly awaiting some details after that tease of handing you her panties. But I don't remember seeing anything since.

[william70]

"That's why I always look forward to seeing them interact in person. Looking for telltale signs, energy, avoiding being physically close to each other. They actually do act in this way (the telltale signs) to a degree but SW says it is because his wife is very suspicious and protective of any potential affair with a client. I suppose SW is the most obvious of all his clients (hottest)."

I suspect, the reason you don't say "just fuck him already" is because you enjoy watching them interact the way they do now. If they would fuck, that interaction may change.

We're anonymous here SF. You can be honest with us. Am I wrong?

[slenderfish]

Did we (or you) ever hear what happened with Mr. L on the night of her birthday? I know I was eagerly awaiting some details after that tease of handing you her panties. But I don't remember seeing anything since.

I think it's been long enough to actually ask her. Mind you, history has proven that she doesn't voluntarily share when asked; rather, she gets embarrassed or similar, and clams up. The less I seem to be interested, the more she trickles out over time.

What she's let out so far:

She has said he was "handsy".

She ended up leaning forward in the car because he was putting his hands on her breasts, inside of her low-plunge dress (no bra).

I'm pretty sure she leaned forward to prevent me from seeing what was going on. If she was looking to prevent him from touching her, she would not have leaned forward but instead would have asked to move up to the front seat.

She has also indicated that she doesn't want to mess up any social relationships by spilling about his actions. She knows and likes his wife, although the wife almost never joins in social activities with our group.

So she seems to be protecting Mr. E and in doing so not closing the door to him for whatever.

[slenderfish]

Mr. B's birthday was this week. I casually mentioned it to SW, to see if she might reach out to him. Not yet sure if she did, or not.

[slenderfish]

"That's why I always look forward to seeing them interact in person. Looking for telltale signs, energy, avoiding being physically close to each other. They actually do act in this way (the telltale signs) to a degree but SW says it is because his wife is very suspicious and protective of any potential affair with a client. I suppose SW is the most obvious of all his clients (hottest)."

I suspect, the reason you don't say "just fuck him already" is because you enjoy watching them interact the way they do now. If they would fuck, that interaction may change.

We're anonymous here SF. You can be honest with us. Am I wrong?

I like the energy and the cat-and-mouse on the subject. She is clearly attracted to him and dresses sexy for him, plays along with him to avoid scrutiny of his wife, and dances up to the line (according to what she shares with me).

If they have gone over the line, then it's just a matter of time before something slips and I will find out.

If they have not yet done so, then the slow burn up to the line does continue, and it's this dance I'm enjoying.

If I come right out and say something, she will probably take a step way back, or at least go on the defensive. She knows my kink. Doesn't want me to be blatant and to push her, etc.

[BallSpanking]

A bit like handling a skittish thoroughbred filly ...

[Dharmadude]

Gotta say, your situation would drive me insane. Your wife may or may not be fucking other guys (for the record I think she has multiple times). This is what you want and why you are here. But you don't get any of the benefits from that, like details, reclaiming, or knowing your wife is a HW. Dancing in, sniffing for clues, spying on her to see if you can connect all of the dots. And the one thing you say you cannot do is directly ask her. I couldn't do it. It would only be a matter of time before I slipped up and ruined everything.

In the end, it's not what works for me, it's what works for you. You like it and it works for you both, so I'm happy for you.

[slenderfish]

We have the sex-positive therapist today. Last session, I expressed a bit of frustration with SW in that she continues to bring up what seem to be peripheral little issues that may have cropped up during the week, and by the time the session is coming to a close each time, we haven't really had any chance to get into the sexual stuff.

The therapist kind of took that and ran with it. She said that she had been wondering if she is the right person for us, in that SW seems to be focusing on these non-sexual and non-intimacy little matters. That she had even wondered if she should refer us to a more traditional therapist.

We will pick up this conversation today, I hope.

[brewcrewer75]

Gotta say, your situation would drive me insane. Your wife may or may not be fucking other guys (for the record I think she has multiple times). This is what you want and why you are here. But you don't get any of the benefits from that, like details, reclaiming, or knowing your wife is a HW. Dancing in, sniffing for clues, spying on her to see if you can connect all of the dots. And the one thing you say you cannot do is directly ask her. I couldn't do it. It would only be a matter of time before I slipped up and ruined everything.

In the end, it's not what works for me, it's what works for you. You like it and it works for you both, so I'm happy for you.

This. The more I read the more I've come to the conclusion this isnt hotwifing, this is she has a free pass to fuck other guys and he has to play Columbo in order to even know for sure if she did or not. There's nothing "open" about this arrangement.

[Mr Mrs Cream]

We have the sex-positive therapist today. Last session, I expressed a bit of frustration with SW in that she continues to bring up what seem to be peripheral little issues that may have cropped up during the week, and by the time the session is coming to a close each time, we haven't really had any chance to get into the sexual stuff.

The therapist kind of took that and ran with it. She said that she had been wondering if she is the right person for us, in that SW seems to be focusing on these non-sexual and non-intimacy little matters. That she had even wondered if she should refer us to a more traditional therapist.

We will pick up this conversation today, I hope.

Looks like she wasn’t into the cuckold word.

Looks like the best solution would be to find a therapist who may help SW to be mor comfortable on higher level so cuckold.
How about sending emaila to few therapist what you are really looking for and find the one who would agree.

[rooster444]

Gotta say, your situation would drive me insane. Your wife may or may not be fucking other guys (for the record I think she has multiple times). This is what you want and why you are here. But you don't get any of the benefits from that, like details, reclaiming, or knowing your wife is a HW. Dancing in, sniffing for clues, spying on her to see if you can connect all of the dots. And the one thing you say you cannot do is directly ask her. I couldn't do it. It would only be a matter of time before I slipped up and ruined everything.

In the end, it's not what works for me, it's what works for you. You like it and it works for you both, so I'm happy for you.

This. The more I read the more I've come to the conclusion this isnt hotwifing, this is she has a free pass to fuck other guys and he has to play Columbo in order to even know for sure if she did or not. There's nothing "open" about this arrangement.

This is starting to ring more true than ever - "...she has a free pass to fuck other guys and he has to play Columbo in order to even know for sure if she did or not."

The cat & mouse game is losing its appeal.

[superb101]

Gotta say, your situation would drive me insane. Your wife may or may not be fucking other guys (for the record I think she has multiple times). This is what you want and why you are here. But you don't get any of the benefits from that, like details, reclaiming, or knowing your wife is a HW. Dancing in, sniffing for clues, spying on her to see if you can connect all of the dots. And the one thing you say you cannot do is directly ask her. I couldn't do it. It would only be a matter of time before I slipped up and ruined everything.

In the end, it's not what works for me, it's what works for you. You like it and it works for you both, so I'm happy for you.

This. The more I read the more I've come to the conclusion this isnt hotwifing, this is she has a free pass to fuck other guys and he has to play Columbo in order to even know for sure if she did or not. There's nothing "open" about this arrangement.

This is starting to ring more true than ever - "...she has a free pass to fuck other guys and he has to play Columbo in order to even know for sure if she did or not."

The cat & mouse game is losing its appeal.

It is his game and if he likes playing it this way, more power to him. Last time I checked, there are no rules. My guess is that at some point, their counseling will come through and she will begin to open up OR he will figure out how to figure out her game.