Air Bull and Bull

[iloanmywife]

The most recent development is that she’s met another local woman who is also cucking her husband (no names provided to me to protect her anonymity) who might enjoy the boudoir. My concern is jealous husband syndrome.

How did she meet the other woman? There's something uniquely sexy and naughty about women sharing this interest with each other.

By "cucking her husband," it sounds more like run-of-the-mill cheating than how many of us typically think of cuckolding. Yes, I realize cheating is literally the textbook meaning of cuckolding. I think your rental unit should be more than adequate compartmentalization from other people's personal affairs -- your unit isn't the first Airbnb/VRBO to host an affair. That's one more great advantage to your investment and situation, adding a nice degree of separation between your play and your real lives.

[Decman]

I did ask… This other woman was friends with my late sister in law. Wife ran into her while the other woman was out with her boyfriend, and they put it together. As I’ve mentioned before, our cuckolding relationship is the worst kept secret, but my wife was grateful to have someone else with whom to share her experience.

I don’t know this woman— never met her that I know of. Although she presents to my wife that she and her husband have a similar relationship to ours, you never know how these things will develop over time, so I’d kind of like to keep it at arms length.

[Long Lurker 34]

I did ask… This other woman was friends with my late sister in law. Wife ran into her while the other woman was out with her boyfriend, and they put it together. As I’ve mentioned before, our cuckolding relationship is the worst kept secret, but my wife was grateful to have someone else with whom to share her experience.

I don’t know this woman— never met her that I know of. Although she presents to my wife that she and her husband have a similar relationship to ours, you never know how these things will develop over time, so I’d kind of like to keep it at arms length.

DM - You may not know her or even her name, but for ease of reference you could assign a letter to her. Way easier for you write for any interaction with your wife and way easier for us to follow.

[Decman]

This weekend was first time she used the property as a “renter”.

Her boyfriend is out of town for work for a few weeks and suggested that she meet a friend of his while he was gone. I guess that means her boyfriend is actually her “bull” as he’s getting her comfortable with the idea of being shared. This is a major step for her and for us, but she felt comfortable doing so because she was in familiar surroundings (ie the Airbnb).

Clean up of the property was a just a little more humiliating for me with this in mind. She reported that while she enjoyed meeting this guy, she didn’t feel the sexual chemistry. Her (okay let’s call him) Bull asked her to give the new guy a second chance. He told her if this guy doesn’t work out he may find another for her, but didn’t want her to have to “settle” with having sex with her husband.

She is playing safe with this guy — condoms etc.

Edited to Add:

Just so I’m clear on this, while I’m excited about this because it’s new, I’m also concerned. This is the first time a guy she’s been with has done anything like this. Seeing my strong, independent wife take on this role is concerning to me. I mean … she’s a managing director at a regional bank, so seeing her acting like this is out of character.

I’m going to keep an eye on her and may use our cuckolding safe word to make sure she’s comfortable in this role he’s put her in and let her know what I’m seeing.

[Magellanic29]

Great update as always Decman!

[iloanmywife]

Her boyfriend is out of town for work for a few weeks and suggested that she meet a friend of his while he was gone. I guess that means her boyfriend is actually her “bull” as he’s getting her comfortable with the idea of being shared.

He told her if this guy doesn’t work out he may find another for her...

That is a plot twist that I didn't see coming from your previous posts. I went back and reread the thread to see if I missed anything. So her previous guy is introducing her to friends of his?

I don't think you need to use a safe word, per se, to ask your wife if she's comfortable with the situation. It sounds like she's already on board, or she wouldn't have met this new guy.

[Decman]

Yeah. That’s my concern. It isn’t in her nature to give up control. We are having dinner out tonight without kids so I’m going to bring it up.

[Decman]

Hi.

It’s been an interesting few weeks. Haven’t been on here as we have been figuring this out. First — she’s no longer with boyfriend who was having her hookup with his friends while he was out of town. I didn’t have to “safe word”, she came to this conclusion on her own, realizing that something that made her feel happy and powerful was much different than being pimped out.

So .. she’s back on the apps looking for a new friend. This weekend she hooked up with a guy she had stopped seeing 2 years ago, and used the apartment to do so.

[wittol]

I remember a story from a few years ago about a couple who bought a vacation home not too far from their residence, and regarded it as exclusively the wife's for her use over the entire summer. She lived there as a sexually active single woman, and the hubby would come on the weekends to clean and care for the property, even with her boyfriends present. Summer over, and she would return home to their regular life. Kinda hot.

Love the rental idea, can't wait to hear more.

[Decman]

Been a while.

We went through a rocky patch at the beginning of the Summer so put a temporary hold on our cuckolding. We are seeing a couples therapist and are in a much better place.

I was shocked that the therapist didn’t bat an eyelash when we told her about our cuckolding and chastity relationship. She gave us some exercises to do— and I’m happy where we’ve gone. Therapist said she’s worked with many cuckold and cuckqueen relationships and most don’t last (we knew this) but she liked the dynamic we had and understood and respected our choices.

The airbnb was busy this Summer — since we weren’t cucking, we rented out both apartments at various times. We are now ready to get back into the flow of our relationship. I’m locked now for 10 days and this weekend she’s going to be meeting up with a bull she met and I vetted.

Thanks to those who reached out — and thanks for giving me a place to talk about this.

[BeingInTheWorld]

Decman,

Curious about those exercises. Are they standard relationship exercises around communication/rupture and repair, or did they integrate cuckolding and chastity?

[Magellanic29]

Hey Decman, happy to see you posting again. Sorry about the rough road. Glad to hear you are doing better and sought help. I hope things keep getting better for you and the wife. I'm just a wannabe but if you need someone to talk to I'm all ears.

[Decman]

Beingintheworld: Just standard communication stuff. We stopped both chastity and cuckolding play this Summer and just started again. Couldn’t have a real conversation or growth when the power dynamic was skewed.

We did talk a lot about WHY the Chasity and cuckolding and decided how and whether we would continue with one or both.


Our therapist wants us to dip our toes in the water and then go back and regroup again in later September

[venus-can99]

Decman - good to hear that you both addressed the issues without allowing them to fester and break your marriage. Would be great to hear how the "toe dipping" in chastity and cuckolding goes.

[iloanmywife]

I'm glad you and your wife are doing well. We've all gone through rough patches, including some directly related to cuckold play. Great that you and your wife are talking about it.

...her boyfriend who was having her hookup with his friends while he was out of town.
...being pimped out.

I hope this doesn't offend you, but that's so fucking kinky-hot to me. One of my dark fantasies is for my wife to be passed around by a group of friends. Consensually of course, but in a way that feels...not empowering. We've experienced a few tantalizing hints of that scenario, but not what your wife and you experienced.

For whatever it's worth, my wife and I have fetishized a few of our bad situations and experiences. What had been painful or hurtful became lust-fuel for us. That doesn't necessarily mean doing it again, but you and your wife might explore some sex talk about her feeling "pimped out" to other men.

We are seeing a couples therapist and are in a much better place.

I was shocked that the therapist didn’t bat an eyelash when we told her about our cuckolding and chastity relationship. She gave us some exercises to do— and I’m happy where we’ve gone.

We joke that if we ever needed to see a marriage counselor that he or she would need therapy themself afterward. And I realize that fantasy is not the same as reality, but you've actually lived another of my taboo fantasies: my wife and I confessing to a female marriage counselor every sordid, salacious detail.

[Decman]

Update: I last posted that we were going to “dip our toes” back in the water. We had a good experience with that. Still going to couples counseling but communication is much stronger.

This morning I’m off from work, cleaning the apartment after she used it this past weekend. There’s something about kneeling down to clean another guys dried cum from the vinyl plank flooring that a non-cuck would never understand. Then, leaning over the bathroom vanity to scrub her handprints from the mirror, knowing that they are there because he was bending her over the sink. Even more so is feeling my cockcage rubbing against the edge of the vanity while I do so.

Next step is to get her clothing from the owners closet. Will drop off some things at the dry cleaner, and then home to hand wash the delicates. Tomorrow I’ll stop over to restock the mini fridge and replace the cleaned lingerie in the owners closet.

[Magellanic29]

Wow great update Dec glad to see things are going well again. Can't wait to hear more from you.

[Decman]

Got this text while I was at dry cleaner:

Her “Xxxxxx says he likes Scotch. Can you stock a bottle please?”

Me. “Sure. Single malt or blend ?”

Her. “Don’t know. Just stock one of each. And can you bring over some of your tumblers. I’d be embarrassed to make him drink out of a juice glass.”

Me. “On it”

Her “Did that make your little cage rattle ? “

[Magellanic29]

Geez what a text at the end lol. How you doing though Dec with it all?

[venus-can99]

Thanks for the update Dec and good to hear that you guys have started again and you are relishing the experience. Any plans to watch them (with her permission ofcourse) or you guys are still working your way through things?

[Decman]

Magellanic: Im doing great thanks for asking. We set boundaries — she understands what I get out of this much better and loves me enough to respect that. She also has acknowledged what she gets out of it — faithful and loving husband on one side and active and exciting sex life on the other hand. That text — as hot as it is — is a recognition by her of what I need / want from this.

Our therapist has discussed with us at length that this may be something we keep doing —or something that transition out of at some point. And that could mean the end of active frequent cuckolding or it could be a deeper dive into something more serious. The therapist asked me how I would feel in certain situations with which I wasn’t comfortable at all. She also cautioned that the longer we do this, the more my wife will see me in a non-traditional role and it might cause further estrangement.

She also made us recognize that we obviously have a different dynamic and at some point the kids will either “find out”’or we will have to tell them. This could be traumatic for both of our relationships with our kids, so we need to decide what is more important.

[Magellanic29]

Magellanic: Im doing great thanks for asking. We set boundaries — she understands what I get out of this much better and loves me enough to respect that. She also has acknowledged what she gets out of it — faithful and loving husband on one side and active and exciting sex life on the other hand. That text — as hot as it is — is a recognition by her of what I need / want from this.

Our therapist has discussed with us at length that this may be something we keep doing —or something that transition out of at some point. And that could mean the end of active frequent cuckolding or it could be a deeper dive into something more serious. The therapist asked me how I would feel in certain situations with which I wasn’t comfortable at all. She also cautioned that the longer we do this, the more my wife will see me in a non-traditional role and it might cause further estrangement.

She also made us recognize that we obviously have a different dynamic and at some point the kids will either “find out”’or we will have to tell them. This could be traumatic for both of our relationships with our kids, so we need to decide what is more important.

I'm glad to hear it. It's good she understand what you want/get out of this better. Interesting to hear what a therapist has to say about this lifestyle. The therapist raises some great points i gotta say. So, how often is the wife seeing other men?

[Decman]

Magellanic: She’s seeing 2 different guys (that I know of!) right now. She usually sees at least one each week. Sometimes these are dates, sometimes they are overnights, so it’s not always about sex.

She had another guy she was interested in, but found out this weekend that he is married and his wife was not aware of / on board with him opening their marriage (despite his protestations to the otherwise). That’s been one of her biggest challenges — learning to see through her suitors.

[venus-can99]

I am sure she will have no problems finding a suitable fb/bf - someone who gives all his attention to her and makes her pleasure his priority.

[Decman]

Update:

One of her guys had moved out of town for his job, but recently had to spend an extended 2 week period back in town so he rented out the larger apartment. Although they hadn’t seen one another in about a year, she spent a few nights with him in the larger apartment, using the smaller apartment as her personal boudoir/ changing area.

This was fantastic for me, as I was able to help her prep and also do some clean up activities at the smaller apartment. I hadn’t had the opportunity to prepare her for a date in a while (helping to shower, shave her legs, lay out her clothing etc) or clean up in a few months.

She enjoyed it as well and the location of the tall hedges allowed her to walk between apartments in a robe with assurance of privacy. I told her jokingly that we should market this as an “Airbnb Experience” in the future. She noted that since his company will reimburse him for the cost of the room rental, this is the first time she’s been “paid” to sleep with someone.